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Hello everyone! (nagato v2 docker)
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@Closey alive
@Mogsdad I'm alive and kicking!
Then answer my question!
@Closey audit stats
@Mogsdad Sorry, I don't understand that. Did you mean status?
@Closey stats
01:31
@Mogsdad Sorry, I don't understand that. Did you mean status?
@Closey status
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@Closey myauditstats
Yeah - reading through. Looks like "myauditstats" should be one of them, though.
with a space, though. :/
01:34
@Closey my audit stats
@gunr2171 You've completed 6 audits:
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 | javascript  | 33.33 | 2     |
 | c           | 16.67 | 1     |
 | c#          | 16.67 | 1     |
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@Closey group stats
@Mogsdad Sorry, I don't understand that. Did you mean status?
01:36
@Closey room stats details
@Mogsdad 1 members (1% of this room's able reviewers) have processed 48 review items today, which accounts for 22.64% of all CV reviews today.
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@Closey queue stats
6627 need review
214 reviews today
3237650 reviews all-time
@Sam WBN if Closey temporarily recognized the old commands, even just to say "use xyz instead".
01:51
Lots of filth down here, Dennis! Reports that all off-topic questions were closed were premature...
About 20 questions with delete votes on them, too.
JAL
JAL
I'm going to try to do some NATO before bed
 
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JK.
JK.
03:09
Lol @Jarrod. I came here to recommend the same Q for close
Didn't saw a question like this: stackoverflow.com/q/36539134/3933332 for a long time, where OP tries to solve the problem himself with the knowledge he has.
 
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04:33
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04:50
sd remove- Edited. Removed Link
05:01
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05:41
Are there web crawlers stupid enough to follow rel="nofollow" links or something?
Or are spammers just stupid enough to not realize this attribute is present?
My bet is the spammer thought that SO has a system to detect spam, but the system wouldn't follow rel="nofollow", so they put it there and hoped the spam remains undiscovered.
Rob
Rob
I mean, I knew there was a hidden link there, and it still took me a little while to find it while hovering over
How many people do they realistically expect to accidentally click it..?
I can't imagine they expect people to click it. It seems like they are trying to get search engines or other bots. But the rel="nofollow" prevents that.
Cindy Meister passed a audit!
Not even a unicorn would click on that spam link.
05:57
Good morning o/
06:08
@AlexanderO'Mara what the heck was that
o_O
@Magisch Hacked account maybe? Otherwise they have decent contributions.
@AlexanderO'Mara I know
I mean, thats definately abusive but ....
Maybe a modflag would be prudent
If they post again, Smokey should catch it.
Well, I raised a modflag cue possibly hacked account on that
the mods can see more data then us and see if thats the case and take action when necessary
Sounds good. Would be a shame if they got the rep penalty for something they didn't do.
06:11
Well if it was genuenly a hack mods can clear that
Rob
Rob
How does this get an upvote
not sure @rob but that right there is a epicly bad question
Why are there so many bad edits in the SE queue this morning
This saturday the 60 CV test phase ends btw
test phase 2, 100 cv?
@Magisch I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Test phase Deux: 1.5*10^99 CV
06:22
So many close votes that you can't afford an "l" anymore :P
@AlexanderO'Mara "Possible Hacked account. This otherwise decent user submitted a very very off topic and inappropiate post (stackoverflow.com/questions/36540946/…). Doesn't seem like a otherwise decent contributor would do this. – Magisch 18 mins ago helpful - Thanks; we're investigating. "
Seems like mods are on the case
@Magisch Cool
06:41
I started my first bounty yet \o/ stackoverflow.com/questions/33524928/…
Rob
Rob
I had a 500 bounty go to waste because I stopped checking SO after nearly a week
And the answer came in just before it ended
Still feel bad about it, heh
Magisch passed an audit!
This rejected suggested edit looks spammy
should I do anything beyond rejecting it?
06:58
Morning
plop @ferry
Morning
plop tlm
also plop ed
Double Diamond this morning :P
Rob
Rob
Why are there suddenly so many punctuation spam posts?
Or is smokey only now detecting them?
Google indexing
07:03
It's a new heuristic
Rob
Rob
Well yeah, but I mean suddenly. I haven't ever seen them until today, and there's been 3
Ah okay, thought so
Last smokedetector detection was plagiarism from stackoverflow.com/questions/15641411/…
Linked punctuation are almost always plagiarism
I can't close the answer...
Rob
Rob
How do you read a file without opening it.. what?
Perhaps he meant "without reading all of it"
07:06
How do you even get any info from a file without opening it?
@Rob You can do that by opening the hard disk as a file "/dev/sda1" instead, and scanning to the position where you can find the file, :)
You can get some info by opening the directory node
Rob
Rob
@Ferrybig Hmm.. you win ;)
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sd k (plag + blog)
07:10
I found a bug, you can still edit your comment after the post is deleted
but what does it mean? What's linked punctuation? When the link! includes punctuation, like here?
ahhhh, I see now!
@tripleee I think if the link is only a punctuation symbol.
yeah, examined the source of the recent one
Rob
Rob
I wonder how many of those there are out there, that smokey wasn't catching before
Because it seems like there is a huge amount of them coming through
FR time?
07:12
imagining whoever put in the rule also did a sweep to identify old instances?
Rob
Rob
I doubt it.. there are millions and millions of answers to search ;)
I don't think they did. @Undo?
@Rob Yup. Would be cool if we could let SD go through some answers and check for that
SEDE should be possible to query
Rob
Rob
Yeah, was just thinking that
07:14
@Ferrybig Ferry did you found plag on last?
@tripleee The linked punctuation includes the following checks: If the link text matches the regex ^\W$ its linked punctuation (python regex flavor) and its a answer, it will be reported
NOTE: All link punctuation are not spam!
@PetterFriberg No, I wasn't able to find it, but google is not good for code-only searches. I only wish I had more time for every post to document the link in the comments, before its deleted
@PetterFriberg counter-example?
we need always to be sure, I did not flag last, but since it was twitter ok.
@JanDvorak We have had a few, specially with image links
07:15
Same guy, same URL
@PetterFriberg The "link in punctuation" has been turned off on questions to prevent those false positives, its usually the questions that include images, while answers are most likely to stay alive longer
@Ferrybig I know, I just want people to be careful before they flag ; )
... just fix the regex
Plop!
@JanDvorak There was no scan on older Q&A pairs for this detection. Rene has made a SEDE query for finding those that use the dot as punctuation.
@JanDvorak Fixing the regex would be hard as it looks for non-word characters. The problem it had with the questions, is that the author included the image with a space as description, then stack exchange concerted it to a url, and kept the description as a space. This caused the final url to come up with a space character as link text, causing smokey to trigger
@Kyll Plop
07:24
Has the punctuation ever been anything but a period?
see above also space
Anyone got rene's punctuated links finding SEDE query?
Because that sounds like a lot of batch !!/report's
@Kyll Not sure, maybe it's here: data.stackexchange.com/users/11779/rene
07:27
Thanks!
@Ferrybig Yeah, I'm searching for posts that appeared before Smokey caught them
Oh, it caught two images on AskUbuntu. Any way to check for that usage?
@Ferrybig, did you post a meta on this?
@PetterFriberg Didn't have time for that, can you post a meta?
I tried to compose a similar query but it's reaaaallly slow
@PetterFriberg I was thinking about it, and I think we should wait a bit to see how effective it is. If on Metasmoke we have a >90% tp rate on that kind of links we could ask for them to be forbidden
07:32
Ok Kyll, its just to have some guidelines, see the discussion we had at chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/29853232#29853232
I can't seem to run rene's query to completion
@Kyll All of the posts appeared before Smokey caught them.
@JanDvorak Literally not funny =p
Then why are you smiling? :-D
Because I barely had any coffee yet and my face is stuck so that no one can see the painful desperation in my bleeding eyes =D
07:39
You might want to see the doctor.
@Kyll "Because I barely had any coffee yet and my face" and how I read it: "Because I barely had any coffee yet and in my face"
I think this question should be reopen. People want to know how they can host Java web app for free . But this question is closed and no one can add more input into it.
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Q: How to host web application for free

jamesI have made Java web application. For server side implementation layer I have used JSP. The project is running fine on localhost:8080 using Tomcat 7. Now I want to deploy it on web server. Because my project requirement is that application must be hosted. Now i want to know how to host Java/J...

@james can you remove that one box please?
I have asked this question long ago.
Asking for a place to host your app is a no-no. And legal questions are off-topic as well.
07:41
and I still think the question is currently off topic as well
@james I disagree. Finding hosting is not a programming question, and answers are likely to degrade (become obsolete, etc)
Don't pile on, guys
@Adriaan which box?
okay fine guys
A "one box" is a chat message which consists solely of a link, which is rendered differently from an embedded link in a larger piece of text
@james the question itself. That's a one-box, which is discouraged for use here. Please post links with a bit of text, so that they don't show as a one-box but a simple link
07:42
it was just my opinion . Rest is upto.
@james Note that if you want additional guidance about the scope of this question, you may ask on Meta.
@Adriaan i don't know how to do it. Sorry for that
there is a limited time window during which you can edit the text you posted to chat, but I guess it has already expired
there's a friendly down arrow next to each chat message where you can pick "edit"
but anyway, probably moot now
From that one one-box no kitten will die.
Chat is not exactly beginner-friendly
07:47
I'm a very curious person, so just say if it isn't appropriate, but is there any updates on: stackoverflow.com/users/237838/andrew-barber ?
Last seen a year or so ago
Is that a potato unicorn?
Rejected during an AB test.
As I sad "please say if it isn't appropriate", I don't want to step on any feet's or make wrong assumptions. But I put "Andrew Barber Ohio" into google...
What, is there some drama I'm not aware of?
@Kyll No, I'm just a very curious person and googled a bit. But I'm really not sure about what I found. My curiosity about it came from this meta post: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/290286/3933332
07:55
o_o
Never connected again
Maybe I never should have started to google it.
@Rizier123 Have you found anything?
As I said, I just put "Andrew Barber Ohio" into google and looked at the results
@Rizier123 And what were they?
I really don't want to link them here or make ANY assumptions. You can also google it :P
08:08
Oh
oh no
Ehm
Some history is better left untouched
I don't want to make assumptions, but better left untouched that's what I thought
yikes
the shit you find, @Rizier123 :P
08:32
2 days ago, by Félix Gagnon-Grenier
good mornings. is that question too broad or just off-topic?
Plop Madara
ikr
Don't worry, everyone clicked
And everyone knows it was you
Highly starred, seemingly non-exciting message, suspicious day of the week
Or so I seem to remember
08:33
Yeah, I'm not falling for it :D
Also, hOi
Nice comment BTW...
@MadaraUchiha o/
08:57
Hi Madara, just want to say Hi.
09:09
(transalted : "So, do not know why he had been wrong to see this know that the people shielding api, really speechless"
so NAA?:D
I left a nice comment
@AndrasDeak Our comments came in at the exact same second
@Ferrybig yeah I saw:P
we're gooood
@AndrasDeak Yeah sd n (the n is not an answer)
Smokey doesn't listen to me
09:12
it would have been either way since its chinese, but checking that its not rude or spam
there's a chinese comment slightly above it as well
@PetterFriberg please read theoatmeal.com/comics/apostrophe
@Adriaan Yeah I saw, but I decided not to flag, they are speaking with each other (seems that they have a good time), I just moved on... but you can flag if you like
How do you tell if they're enjoying the conversation?
@JanDvorak With all my typo and grammar mistake you hope to correct me : ), I'm just blind when writing, you need to guess some....
09:17
Then proofread
Hi, I have flagged this question (stackoverflow.com/questions/36277065/…) to be deleted. OP asked it to be deleted permanently as it contain sensitive data. Can you help to delete this question?
Also, learning to touch-type will help you type faster
Can you help with that question?
@KhalidHussain you can self-delete your own answer by simply pressing "delete"
09:18
Will people ever learn that telling everyone everything isn't the smartest move?
I'm thinking to roll back the OPs edit though, since he defaced the post by removing all code
Link in punctuation without disclosing affiliation: stackoverflow.com/a/13764328
@KhalidHussain We can't really help you, try to flag for moderator on question, explain in detail the problem.
OP removed all code from this question on the pretext of it containing sensitive data. It however is now an off-topic (no MCVE) question. Do we roll the edit back?
@Adriaan, I have just deleted my answer, what about other answer? OP want it to be deleted permanently.
@Petter Friberg thank you
09:21
@KhalidHussain If you don't know how to do that, I can help you cast a flag.
@KhalidHussain I think a mod won't comply. If you dont want your data out in the open you shouldn't post it on SO in the first place. Mods almost always decline cases like "Can you please delete this question before my professor sees it"
@Adriaan rollback'd
@KhalidHussain and remember the question will still be visible for >10k users (if it has login detail the OP needs to change that)
@Adriaan But a mod flag is the correct way in this case, huh?
Another case of link-spam to the authors website without disclosure stackoverflow.com/a/10183482
09:22
its the only way, I think we should stay clear of this.
I really wonder what is so sensitive in that question
A mod can redact the question
@ Kevin Guan, I flagged it.
I think the OPs comments will be deleted, but the question will stay in place
Its really bad to see posts of authors with more than 2000 rep to include hidden links back to his website without affiliation
@Ferrybig was hw >2k when he posted though? post is 4yrs old
09:25
@Ferrybig why don't you report it?
left a comment here: stackoverflow.com/questions/36277065/… cc @KhalidHussain
@PetterFriberg Because I am still searching for more posts, running the query from rene and increasing the date periods, and trying out other punctation
@Petter Friberg, you are right. Most of the users of this chat room have high reputation points. I thought they have permission to delete question. Anyway, thank you all :).....
@KhalidHussain That probably is true, but they only delete if question is bad, these edge cases its better for mod (to keep them out of trouble), anyway no problem it's nice that you try to help OP.
@rene, thank you.
09:28
yw
@Gothdo, op rolled back, but let it be, moderator is arriving.
yeah that ^
@Ferrybig I real want to flag that spam, but the problem remains "Exists only to promote a product or service" I guess we need a meta sooner or later.
@SmokeDetector Just link-only?
09:33
hmm, answering as request of off-site resources.
@KevinGuan I'd say yes. Question should be migrated to tex.SE, but it's too old alas
@PetterFriberg The 2 posts I linked also have the problem of the affiliation of the link, the right part of the spam reason says that. I am going to write the "unclear" cases in a file, but most of those unclear cases are already gone
@KevinGuan I would leave that and let charcoal handle the reporting
@PetterFriberg Well, I only downvoted but didn't flag.
I thought that post was NAA, so I added n feedback in charcoal
09:36
problem solved : )
Hiya
Fine, and seems that Smokey is re-reporting spam answers now \o/
And Hiya Tuna.
Hiya Tuna!
@KevinGuan ---------------------------------------------------------------->
and just wait some, it will point correctly soon...
pushing up
continue
09:39
Pushing more up
HAMMERTIME!
What ya pushing and hammering?
@PetterFriberg Yeah, seen that already.
my window has a different size
09:40
And seems too high.
My window panes are made up of blazed glass.
!!/blame
@KevinGuan It's Rob's fault.
Oh, Caprica here
09:40
@KevinGuan That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
How do we push down?
@CapricaSix Okay
Tried to pull it down, but failed doing so
!!/help
@KevinGuan I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.
09:40
@KevinGuan Information on interacting with me can be found at this page
\o/, two bots are all listen to me.
Where is You? Who is You? :P
And that is what happens when we have too many bots here
I'm sure many would like to interact
Can we get the two bots into an infinite conversation somehow? :D
09:41
If we could get Mi and the twins Sum Wan and Anne Wan, it would be hilarious.
!!> console.log("Smokey is better than me")
Huh. What's happening here?
@KevinGuan "undefined" Logged: "Smokey is better than me"
!!/eval 19*19
@Magisch 361
09:42
!!> 5 + 6
@Tunaki I know Caprica, she's a JavaScript bot.
@PraveenKumar 11
What is she doing here?
@Magisch what? eval is not evil here? o.0
09:42
@Tunaki Talking with other humans bots
@Tunaki Hmm...ask @MadaraUchiha maybe.
She's dangerous... I can make everyone print their fkeys...
@Tunaki ask her
We have a bot running loose here?
09:43
!!> alert("Hi!")
@PraveenKumar "ReferenceError: alert is not defined"
You guys do know this is against the rules
@PraveenKumar Hmm..you can't.
Ha ha... Gotcha...
She's sandboxed?
Finally we have another "she" bot... :D
09:44
What happens when we send a quine to CapricaSix that prints out our command, will the bot get stuck in a infinity loop spamming this room?
> All bots that post in the room have to be cleared by the Room Owner team. Without their prior approval bots will be kicked as soon as they appear.
ruh-roh
@Tunaki Another two notes: I think she's from JavaScript room; Don't get yourself Madara'd
@Tunaki Has Caprica been kicked?
@Ferrybig Try it!
09:45
seems so
@Tunaki But the bot has a history of messages posted in this room, so the bot has approval?
!!/blame
@KevinGuan It's Petter Friberg's fault.
@PraveenKumar Yep ^
nice knowing you, @Tunaki
09:45
nice knowing you, @Tunaki
If there is a discussion approving this bot, I'm unaware of it.
@Tunaki Bots already have taken over that chat room. You can't stop them! You have to let it go...
I actually like that song =p
@Tunaki No need for discussion, I don't approve it
So Caprica is gone now, where I can play with another girl bot...oh yeah! @Closey!
09:48
Well diamond mods count as room owners by the system
@Closey help
This is a chat bot for the SO Close Vote Reviewers chat room, developed by the SOCVR developers. For more information see the github page. Reply with commands to see a list of commands.
I'm pretty sure even mods agree that they should abide by local room rules:)
as the benevolent dictators that they are
@Magisch But they can still add them to the Room Owners group, although that they have RO's permission already?
09:53
@PraveenKumar Can you dupehammer? ^
Blindly done..
Blame @Gothdo
!!/blame Gothdo
@KevinGuan It's Andras Deak's fault.
Do we have a list of approved bots in this room?
cough yes, the FAQ :)
09:54
:D :D
@Ferrybig Not sure, I only know a few of them: [Closey, SD, Tunaki, ... , Ferrybig] maybe a few others as well ;)
@SmokeDetector thanks...
@Rizier123 *Sam
@tuna is only so strict about this other bot because he fears that closey might get jealous :P
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ssssssh

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