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9:00 PM
cuz that missing comma Q&A that ya'll just deleted wasnt benefiting anyone here
 
@Drew watch your steps ... I don't appreciate that
 
You dont appreciate what. My asking for that stupid answer of mine to get canned
You don't appreciate site clean up
 
@rene are you even sure what Drew is talking about? I think you all should have an unambiguous understanding of what the other is talking about before developing any animosity
but maybe I'm the only one who doesn't get it
 
@Drew No, I don't appreciate references you make to earlier incidents. But please continue, I'm all ears but don't get carried away to much
 
@rene I have no clue what you are talking about
I am sure the feeling is mutual
 
9:04 PM
OK, let's deal with that later then, explain what the deal is with the roomba at 03:00 UTC
 
@shog @rene thanks for asking cuz gosh I sure dont want the backlash on Meta and I am not MsYv so eager to parade it here goes
One can cause to effect 50 deletes a day via ROOMBA . Is it evil
 
By doing what?
 
So do you mean, for questions which are crap and have no answers and are closed, downvoting and not delvoting and leaving the deletion to roomba?
 
by touching it will the appropriate downvote Q or A side
 
How, by downvoting when no one's around..? How does the current traffic impact that?
I have no idea what that thing you just said means
 
9:07 PM
If you firmly believe it so serious nonsense that this site could do without it
 
@Drew take a deep breath and rephrase that line so I understand it
 
@Drew roomba really doesn't matter here. If you're downvoting questions you think are good, just to get them deleted, that's a problem. If you're downvoting answers you think are good, just to get the questions deleted, that's an even bigger problem. If you're downvoting stuff you don't understand / have no opinion on, just to trigger deletion, that's a problem.
OTOH, if you're downvoting questions you think are poorly-asked, answers you think are wrong or unhelpful, content you understand and can form an educated opinion on... Then, great, more people should do that.
 
No. I am cleaning this site. And I know I am leveraging ROOMBA
And the Q&A is horrible
 
But Shog9, does that also mean that "if you're downvoting utter crap that doesn't have >=0 voted answers, it's OK"?
 
And that means a 150 rep peep can do that same. Just saying
 
9:09 PM
just to be unambiguous
 
Look at it this way: if there was no automatic deletion, would you still be OK with your votes going to these posts? Be honest.
 
f yes
 
As long as you vote on the merit of the post, why would there be a problem? If you think the Q is bad, you can downvote. If you think the A is wrong, you can downvote.
 
then there's no problem.
 
good. I exit the confession booth
 
9:10 PM
FWIW, I regularly downvote when closing utter crap
 
We had a problem a while back when folks were voting on an answer that they
1) Didn't understand
2) Didn't think was particularly bad
...purely to trigger deletion of the question. That's dishonest and abusive. Don't do that.
 
@AndrasDeak no. I run a query and I target them
 
@Shog9 that's even worse as voting with the crowd when you can't decide yourself, and even that's strictly against any reasonable policy
 
Rule #1: be honest.
 
I am honest. The Q&A is horrific. It does not help this site
 
9:12 PM
The misunderstanding is that you say you are voting to get the question deleted, when in fact, you would still downvote even if the question woudn't be deleted
 
@Drew in what situation could your downvoting raise any flags? In the context of serial downvoting?
 
@shog9 you know you have tied our hands. We are ineffective. If I can do my little part I will do it. You can of course make me a mod
@AndrasDeak one dab l do ya
one touch
 
The problem I see is the targeting. Would you find those Q/A's normally?
 
Sorry, I don't get that:)
 
@Drew You'll have to put yourself up for election like everyone else :p
 
9:14 PM
@rene do you mean normal for me? Yes. I don't even use a browser
I am not normal
 
sure
 
@Drew So what did you mean there? I'm too non-English-speaking for that
 
Sam
@AndrasDeak Thanks :)
 
@AndrasDeak I will give you a URL. But you can't see it anyway. 10k rep
 
@Drew :(
woult it answer my question regarding "in what situation could your downvoting raise any flags?"?:D
 
9:16 PM
@Sam Get well soon, take care of ya self.
 
Sam
@BhargavRao Will do.
 
@Sam you get back to that sickbed:P
 
@Sam I told you to get rid of that last human part you have. Humans get sick, not bots.
 
@Drew I have never had set targets for this room. I don't think we, as a room, are ineffective but that is because I don't have the illusion we get rid of all low quality stuff. It looks like we have different ideas about that
 
@Tunaki toenail?
 
Sam
9:17 PM
@Tunaki Bots get viruses though.
 
@Sam spread by botflies
 
@Sam and can full of bugs....
 
Sam
@PetterFriberg Yeah
 
@Tunaki he said, apparently not noticing the absence of Closey
 
Closey isn't sick. He's on a long-term vacation.
 
9:19 PM
@Kyll Closey's out partying. It's Friday night.
 
@rene I don't set targets for this room
 
Later guys
 
Excuses.
See ya Nathan!
 
Sam
Cya
 
ciao Nate o/
 
9:19 PM
bye
 
@Drew then who is the we you talk about?
 
@rene Shog i here, and there is an exposed vulnerable underbelly
@rene you and me. We like to dance
 
@Tunaki has earned an achievement: Snipe Ferrybig more than 5 times
 
Nice
 
@Drew this is getting weird ...
 
9:21 PM
@rene I am asking Shog. What are you involved for
I have enough deflectionary non-sense don't go out of your way
 
I don't follow you, seriously
 
then dont butt out
 
I have no idea what is going on. I mean, even more than usual.
 
Be nice.
 
^ Okay, I got that
 
9:22 PM
Pretty sure that's like... rule 2 or something.
 
Wait. What's rule 1?
 
@Tunaki don't talk about Meta
 
@Tunaki never talk about SOCVR
 
@Tunaki Honesty
 
I prefer that ^ answer :)
 
9:24 PM
@Tunaki And don't get us started on Friendship. That's magic.
 
@gunr2171 Umm... There is no meta... instead it is you that bends...
 
: )
 
So @Shog, I guess that feature-request won't see the light of day any time soon?
 
JAL
@Shog9 while you're here, any official response on this issue with the H&I queue yet? Jon has been nice enough to say that it's being looked into, but nothing else so far.
 
@JAL what's the real problem here?
Bad edits?
Fake Internet badges?
 
Sam
9:28 PM
@Shog9 We need more waffles.
 
I agree.
2
 
There's a rule in this room that you can never agree. Only when you agree to disagree.
 
At the risk of being off-topic... what are the tags for today's event? I've got some reviewing to do.
 
9:31 PM
@Mogsdad [close] and [turtle]
 
But close what?
Oh.
nm
 
That close yeah :)
If you have spare votes after that, you can either continue with , and (if I remember correctly) or seed the queue with other questions
 
thanks @Tunaki I couldn't find my own comment...
@Tunaki who makes those rules?
 
@rene I have requested to add [turtle] for a day. :-) (15 questions in the review queue, I have edited and retagged all the good ones)
 
@rene You do, but then you forget about them. It's hard to keep up.
 
9:35 PM
@BhargavRao K
 
@Tunaki we'll make a page on the FAQ repo called "misplaced rules"
 
randomly ordered of course
 
For the rule 38 must come after rule 42. Anyone can agree to disagree
 
BTW - still lots of googly questions that I seeded yesterday.
 
Does this question makes sense for anyone? stackoverflow.com/q/35036811/1743880 (was just bountied)
 
9:42 PM
@Tunaki I think it is just a redirect issue but I don't know enough of that toolstack to judge if the question makes enough sense or is correctly tagged
I personally wouldn't expect maven to be part of the issue though.
 
@Tunaki I wouldn't worry about it - the bounty will draw attention - positive or negative - it'll either get the eyes and comments to improve it into something answerable or otherwise...
 
Certainly. It's that tag that brought me to the question in the first place :D
 
If it's not actively causing harm - isn't blatant poop, there's plenty more to worry about out there :p
 
I know this may be out of line... but I don't think it was really fair to kick Drew... he is agitated since he has been working a lot to try to clean SO... and the mess is just to much, the frustration grow. I know he had a bad word... but sometimes these can slip out.... when you don't feel appreciated... The effort and good will of Drew's action could have been more important then a single misplaced word..
 
I'm sure the history doesn't help either, @Petter
I also disagree though
 
9:47 PM
@PetterFriberg and sometimes - when agitated - the best thing to do when debating is to realise when to step back and take a few deep breaths. It was only for one minute and gave Drew an opportunity to calm down - nothing more sinister than that.
Anyway - that's a conversation for another place/another time - let's stay on track :)
 
Which track is that
The waffle one?
 
poop
waffles with blatant poop
 
Ok, np I just had feelings for Drew.. It makes me sad when the only way to deal with his frustration is power...
 
yeah well big deal. Little mnds
 
hey he's back:P
act casual, everybody
 
9:52 PM
@Drew welcome back (or do I mean plop? I get confused)
 
@PetterFriberg Don't worry, Drew went through too much to stay affected I think =p
@JonClements (you always do)
 
I don't really care. I just feel compelled to torture Shog with his own site :p
 
And occasionally point out the hypocrisies to RO's before getting kicked
Otherwise I recruit. And close.
forgive me
 
Let's come clear about that then
@Drew nevar
@Drew tell me
 
9:54 PM
and get my stupid missing comma answer deleted.
 
@Drew from my point of view you are doing a great work... you just need to have some more fun.... otherwise take a break...
 
and lose 6 rep for it
cuz I am going to roomba stuff
and why not start with me
 
Takes @PetterFriberg advice ...
 
@rene so what was it you wanted to me to focus on
 
Fun... otherwise just let it be... no frustration... no objective.. no focus...
 
9:56 PM
if you had one thing for me to focus on what would it be. Other than leaving
@PetterFriberg I am not even answering questions on this site. I am having a blast
 
@PetterFriberg no , no
 
@Drew The current burnination, the tags that are on our SEDE query?
 
I was championing the other nite. Closey was down
 
champion close
 

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