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9:00 PM
What about an answer in french? stackoverflow.com/questions/35245536/…
 
sd remove- VLQ
@Magisch accepted answer in French, nice
 
@Magisch sigh Well, the edit is sound
 
user4639281
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Is serially suggesting edits only consisting of random code indenting
I flagged a post of his for mod attention
 
9:03 PM
go invite him in here
 
How would I do that?
 
throws hand up in the air, back to java
 
@Drew 5 rep
 
@Drew I don't think this guy can chat yet
 
@TinyGiant Using let but not template strings? =p
 
9:06 PM
let's say he could. How might you do it?
 
user4639281
@Kyll baby steps
 
@Magisch Just rejected and edited 4 of his.
That should be enough to trigger a mod flag
 
@Drew I have no idea, I would look at the chat faq to find out
@Tunaki I already flagged a successful edit of his for mod and explained the situation
the worst about this is it works
robo-reviewers are approving these
 
go post something under a person most recent answer or question to drag them to chat
 
@Magisch Users have chat privilege at 20 rep IIRC. You'd have to leave a comment on one of his posts to invite him... Or on a post he edited I think
 
9:07 PM
then clean up the debris when they get here or 10 min later if they don't
 
I've seen alot of people suggest BS edits to farm rep
but damn
just spaces? cmon
Im not gonna DV his one answer because I don't want to further target the guy
But its bordering on VLQ
 
I will leave a message under his answer. He can sit and read then scram
If you see him show up, talk to casper the ghost
 
Is Delete votes on answers 3k?
Because on the LQP Review the "recommend deletion" has been replaced by "delete" for me
 
@Magisch Weird. It should only show up if you have 20k
 
as you know im nowhere near 20k
 
9:15 PM
Ah that button
 
Who has the guts to comment on this one stackoverflow.com/questions/35145952/…, where very high rep user answering and it would be nice if he removes answer to allow roomba...
 
Yes it's normal!
 
user4639281
Back later.
 
Sam
Cya
 
It seems also that user is aware...
 
9:16 PM
@PetterFriberg no need for roomba to get involved. I voted to delete, it's at 2 now. Waiting for the final kick
 
@PetterFriberg I commented on it
I expect to be flamed
 
lol, tell me if to... I can try to cool you some...
 
The user is well aware it lacks a MCVE, yet answers anyways
 
Deleted
 
with 197k reputation he should know better
 
9:17 PM
you guys actually seek trouble !
 
Sam
Trouble actually seeks us.
Well, it's called meta.
 
I know. On top of that not looking for another serving.
 
I'm recruiting but when 192K, hmm
 
Downvote and move on. What can you do.
 
9:19 PM
@Tunaki Try to talk to them
and invoke some guilt
 
Sam
@Magisch If they have a conscience.
 
Guilt? User won't understand. "They want to help out" is what they will answer.
 
@Tunaki Go into a corner, assume foetal position, cry.
 
That guy is Java-Praveen. You know we love ya @PraveenKumar
 
Between me you and another reasonably intelligent programmer (I assume he is at 197k rep) we all know thats BS
he knows even as he types it out
 
9:20 PM
@Drew :) :)
 
You can only hope to hammer it before someone answers it.
 
maybe some of the guilt will stick
 
lol @PraveenKumar, not true since he his here doing his best to clean up (his own mess ; )
 
If not hammered, high-rep user will still answer. Once, a 100k user answered a question after I hammered it.
 
@PetterFriberg Ha ha
 
9:21 PM
getting back up off floor
 
Someone's Praveening in here
 
@PraveenKumar I love you to... can really see how its hard to keep away some times... I know this with a 5 s answer I gain 50 rep.... search for duplicate will take me 30 s....
 
I just simply dont have the ability to answer hard questions
 
but which is nice with @PraveenKumar is that he is HERE!.....
 
im an apprentice
 
9:23 PM
@PetterFriberg Ha ha... Same here. But I get screwed up for this.
 
Im a shit-tier programmer
 
@Magisch Er?
 
so I can only go for the low hanging fruit
 
Heck, I've even seen a gold badge holder reopen a question I hammered to answer it when it was clearly a dupe.
 
@Tunaki Which one?
 
9:24 PM
No need to point fingers but it goes to show you.
 
@PraveenKumar I'm an apprentice
I started programming in august
Besides a tad SQL and server administration, I have no background
 
@Magisch That's okay... What do you mean by "Praveening"? :P
 
@Tunaki Just call @Magisch he is fire proof...
 
@Magisch Woah, nice! What language?
 
So anything above school level C is currently above me.
Most of the stuff I know about programming I've actually picked up here on SO
 
9:25 PM
Only C?
 
@PraveenKumar I was just about to do the same thing.
 
@ᴉʞuǝ Awesome...
 
I had just copied the link.
:)
 
we need to halt the burniation of as Praveen lacks a gold there yet
 
@Magisch Learning by yourself?
 
9:26 PM
Guys, close it before it attracts too many stuff...
 
@Tunaki Its what Im doing atm
but obviously with less then half a year xp im not holding a candle to experts
 
@Magisch Nice. That's what I've done actually. I don't have a CS degree.
I've picked up everything by myself.
 
Sam
Self-learners unite! \o/
 
\o/
 
9:28 PM
@Magisch Great, if you ever want to learn about good JS feel free to ask me for a few sessions =D (also don't talk to those Java guys)
 
no shat what is taking so long
 
@Kyll Same here... Ask me if you want... :D
Ah... Don't we have another 5 people to vote it?
 
Sam
Afk
 
ok @Magisch .... @finder72 is here, the floor is yours
 
Tell me when you move on to some more serious stuff... and need to do a nice report ;=
 
9:30 PM
Is it good to dupehammer some really too broad posts and delete it right away?
Instead of 5 CVs?
 
Sam
@Drew He can't talk
 
we know that
 
@PraveenKumar Don't bother, it'll be roombad.
 
Sam
Alright
 
@Tunaki Ah... Nice.
 
Sam
9:31 PM
Really afk
 
@Magisch, @Tunaki, Someone that was involved in the editing of post please inform @finder72, what was the problem so that he can improve..
 
@finder72 as @Magisch appears to be away at the moment, we wanted you to know that if you don't make significant edits they will be rejected and you will likely face an edit ban. We are trying to see that that doesn't happen.
if someone with knowledge of meta wants to post an article for finder's consumption, that would be swell
 
@finder72 I have rejected and edited a couple of your suggested edits because they didn't improve the post enough, which is discouraged. Refer also to that post or that one.
 
@finder72
 
@PraveenKumar 1998 called, they want their splash screen back
 
9:35 PM
If you edit posts, please make sure to adress all problems of a post for editing and also avoid minor edits (such as spaces)
These will be rejected
 
lol cimm
 
and if too many of your edits get rejected, you may face an automatic edit ban
 
@cimmanon Ha ha ha...
 
also, mods take unkindly to mass-minor editing
 
@Magisch Meh, depends. If you're going through many answers to copy-edit them, it's great!
 
9:37 PM
@Magisch butbutbut, what if i am fixing 'penisland' to be 'pen island' (real place, btw)? :p
 
@cimmanon thats not a minor edit then
 
@Magisch Depends on the... island
 
a minor edit is one that doesn't significantly contribute to the posts readability, cohesiveness or appeal
 
@Tunaki @finder72 Another good post on editing - meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/260245/…
 
@Tunaki you found these two answers (one of them : stackoverflow.com/questions/3555681/…) would you agree with them being pointers to duplicates?
 
9:43 PM
@bummi I don't know... :s
 
If you compare the highest voted answer and the answers of the better Q/A it looks to be covered for me
 
tuna how many left cv wise
 
4. I moderated Java today so...
 
not a lot of fun...tonight...
The killer bee's need some honey.
 
> This closure would result in the 'duplicate of' navigation only leading in a circle.
What if I want to make a circle then? =(
 
10:07 PM
I did not manage to close one as tobroad.. because of the reason... (votes for close dup, that points at dup)... it was impossible to close...
 
10:26 PM
and, ofcourse, a 86k user answered this incredibly underwhelming question
@MartinJames ;(
 
@Magisch I went TYPO..
 
10:47 PM
@hichris123 hi, another java guy...
you should join our @Drew organized campaigns cleaning up the java tag..
Well I'm out cya all, need to have some beers as well...
 
11:02 PM
@Magisch Yeah - I'd already twigged that the crap in the unterminated string had a CR in it. Unfortunately, it was whored before hold, (that sounds like cricket; leg before wicket:).
Pls. kill off this works request: stackoverflow.com/questions/35247539/…
 
11:27 PM
I need inspirational and positive phrases that means "the most important"
 
@PetterFriberg I'm around from time to time. :)
 
both are still there
 
yeah, close them both
@Tunaki don't both question has deleted answers?
 
only the second one. And it only has 1 deleted answer
User also has a fishy question: stackoverflow.com/q/34396706/1743880
@cimmanon looks clear. What makes it unclear?
 
11:43 PM
Can you explain, why a reviewer reject my changes, and immediately do same changes from her account? What reason do this? Ok, may be this is very bad changes, ok, reject it, but why the reviewer post this changes using own account? Why not use at least "improve edit" instead of "reject and edit", if changes are same? It's look quite strange for me... and totally demotivated. :(

Example:
http://stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/11172867 and http://stackoverflow.com/posts/35215712/revisions - absoultly same
 
@finder72 youre not fixing enough things that are wrong with the question (in the first example, you added extra whitespace)
 
@finder72 Yes, I did this explicitely because making trivial edits is discouraged.
 
finder by the way we were working on that answer (of yours) or talking about it in a different chat room so that you could benefit by a rep increase. We know you are trying. So just letting you know that.
 
You can refer to the Meta posts you were linked to earlier. It explains that very well.
 
@finder72 here is around where that transcript began chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/28612009#28612009
 
11:48 PM
This may not be your case but there are a lot of users that make simple edits just to gain "+2" of reputation. And that is why it is better to reject rather than improve when the edit is indeed trivial and does not fix other problems of the post.
 
I did not dig deeper, but I think there is always something that could be improved too, see e.g. stackoverflow.com/q/35215712/1699210 ... if someone is trying to improve, does not make serial minor edits, maybe approve and improve would be the appropriate action.
 
@finder72 "Improve edit" still gives you the +2 rep and doesn't count towards a edit ban for you
the reviewer found that your changes merited no rep gain
 
@bummi Thing is, we need to stop the incentive of making minor edits by letting the user who suggested the edit NOT earn +2.
 
@bummi The appropiate action for sub 2k users making very minor changes in a post that can very easily use more is always to reject the edit.
 

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