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12:00 AM
oh btw congrats on 3k @Braiam
 
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@Drew do you have a list for me? I have lost track of what's what
 
I have some and
 
user3956566
do 10k users have access to see things like this?
 
yep
 
user3956566
@Drew I really don't mind the tags love
 
user3956566
12:08 AM
I have to pop out and pick up my babies
 
k
 
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so don't feel a pressure.. just ping me thanks Drew :D
 
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As for tags, just the most pressing ones, and if I'm unsure I'll skip
 
who wants a certain tag looked out. We have pounded on java and c# enough
 
12:25 AM
@MsYvette let's do python and sass
unless anyone wants anything else, just ping me
 
12:50 AM
Morning!
@Tushar Yes it's the best.
 
Sam
Morning
And night all
 
lol, night.
@Kyll Oh, so my problem is: I've just re-installed my system, and all things are fine. Except that I forgot save the credentials of PIA :(
 
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1:11 AM
@Drew k
 
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\o
 
I have 2 batches up there now ... working on putting sass together
 
o/
@Closey alive
@Nordehinu alive
Where are bots? I can't review CVs without you bots you know :(
 
go get me some python people KG
 
@Drew Okay
 
1:22 AM
just throw em in here, 3k rep and up
 
Err...I'm not active in Python room anyway, so I don't know where I can get you some Python people.
 
how about under python questions. Anyone active
 
That's noise for the posts.
 
alright I am off python. the python peeps don't care i dont
 
Hmm...why do you want only Python people review Python CVs? Others can also review them.
 
1:26 AM
we need people. news flash. everyone here is already diluted. Now we can either get creative or not.
 
Fine
 
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@Drew done
 
which one the python
 
@Drew Actually I just want save my votes to review the queue, but no matter, let me check these Python questions.
 
user3956566
 
user3956566
1:33 AM
they all need one vote, except for this needs 3 more
 
@MsYvette Except this one, all done.
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan thank you!!!
 
@MsYvette You're welcome!
 
user3956566
I will need someone with 10k to organize the delete votes on the , 52 posts, any takers?
 
1:49 AM
i will i never spend mine
 
user3956566
@Drew thnx ducks :D
 
I mean I cant organize it but I will vote on them to delete if that is the consensus. I am in the middle of batching things for groups that close daily
 
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@Drew oh sure. I can't organise them. I can't see the votes,I'll grab someone else..
 
if you make a list and gist it, people can march top to bottom and see as they go. After creating the list you pretty much can walk away from them. Leave the gist and scram
 
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@TinyGiant @TylerH either of you interested in overseeing the deletion votes on the ?
 
user3956566
1:55 AM
it's far less work just to sort by tag. I can see how many have been deleted, duh, but cannot see votes needed on remaining questions
 
user3956566
ok I gotta boot
 
user3956566
talk later \o
 
just let others worry about that they march top to bottom. It doesn't need to be micro managed
then after a day, rejigger the list as you can see if you can get to it.
It wouldn't be the first time people click just to find it is already deleted.
 
2:35 AM
@Vogel612 thanks for dropping in. We have a measly batch of 10 questions up here at the moment and daily java batches a few of us run thru. Take a look if you have time.
 
 
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3:42 AM
@Drew Why did you remove the link?
 
so you could revert it ?
 
I'm not sure what to do with the answer. The answer is definitely not an answer. Editing out the link doesn't fix it though.
I'm going VLQ on this one I think.
 
 
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5:50 AM
@SmokeDetector edited-
 
6:13 AM
@MsYvette some of these questions are a riot
 
user3956566
@Drew which questions? :D
 
user3956566
if I am replying to a smokey post, how do the commands work, do I need to prefix smokey? I assume not, as @ SmokeDetector is in the reply?
 
dont waste votes on them. I am now leaning on other options 1 .. 2
 
user3956566
ok flags?
 
no
 
user3956566
6:16 AM
tell me mr mysterious
 
those mysterious things we can't talk about
 
user3956566
k
 
user3956566
waffles
 
I always wonder about questions like these: stackoverflow.com/questions/35238024/…
Are they real problems, or just link farming.
 
user3956566
@AlexanderO'Mara I wonder that too!
 
6:20 AM
I flagged one as spam once using a custom flag, worse than this one, because I couldn't find any evidence the problem was real. It was declined though.
 
user3956566
@ProgramFOX i did it
 
Hm?
 
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I checked the profile, the site and gave my reason under the post
 
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the manual spam report
 
nice :)
 
user3956566
6:24 AM
Thanks. I wasn't surprised to see one of you guys :D
 
user3956566
@AlexanderO'Mara I suggest bringing it here next time before you flag as spam.
 
user3956566
to avoid a declined flag I mean
 
It was a while ago, I didn't know about here then.
 
user3956566
ah
 
user3956566
@Drew so if we revert the edit now, does that reset the flags?
 
6:28 AM
Let @BrockAdams do it. He has strong opinions about it
 
The rollback tooltip says that it reverts offensive flags, it says nothing about spam flags, so I guess it doesn't reset those.
@Drew His opinion is very correct.
 
user3956566
oh I wasn't going to roll it back my self
 
Then let him do it
 
user3956566
I'm thinking it might not get spammed off without people seeing the link.
 
I agree with him so I did it
 
user3956566
6:29 AM
thanks
 
user3956566
I'm sick of those people who try to cloak an ad in a question :D
 
feel sorry for the fools that click it
 
user3956566
the smile is cos hen got caught
 
user3956566
@Drew hey I clicked it!
 
case in point
 
6:31 AM
I visited it though Tor browser on non-Windows system.
 
Spam should not be edited out; that's said in a Meta post somewhere.
 
user3956566
@Drew hey! you're being mean
 
so please don't do it again next time
 
I am trying to protect you more than you are
 
user3956566
6:31 AM
ok, won't my security software protect me if a site tries to download something?
 
@MsYvette Probably not from a 0-Day.
Depends what your security software is.
 
user3956566
@AlexanderO'Mara ?
 
user3956566
Norton
 
0-Day vulnerability, an exploit in a piece of software for which no patch is yet available. 0 meaning the number of days a patch was available before exploits seen in the wild.
There's 2 major types of attacks.
 
user3956566
yes please continue
 
6:34 AM
it's Ok though. Program and Brock say it's OK. Just click away
 
1. Scam-style attacks, that trick users into installing stuff. This is what anti-virus mostly tries to cover. This is the more-common type.
 
user3956566
@Drew they're not saying that.. it's ok, it's not as bad as you think... ok? xo :D
 
user3956566
@AlexanderO'Mara yep
 
2. 0-Day attacks, you may have heard about some of these in Java and Flash Player lately. Anti-virus isn't much good, because it's new, and virus definitions don't know about them.
 
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ok
 
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6:36 AM
and so a scan won't find them? cos it doesn't know to look for them?
 
user3956566
I'm just a beginner when it comes to programming
 
A well executed 0-day wouldn't necessarily be a file to scan, at least not for the initial attack. A simple (well, simple for this type of thing) example would be to overwrite some buffers and/or registers through a program bug, then jump to that code, basically injecting code into the running process. Then it can do whatever the process has access to, which might be install more software, or steal something.
 
user3956566
we need to stop new comers from posting links
 
I think the likelyhood such a link would be propagated through Stack Overflow is low though.
 
user3956566
why is that?
 
6:41 AM
If I were a black-hat going to do this, I would just buy some ad space from a shady service, and let it spread that way.
Hit a lot more people a lot faster.
 
user3956566
ad space?
 
Well, if it's a Flash Player bug, I could distribute it as an internet ad.
 
user3956566
how does SO help prevent this type of link?
 
user3956566
ah yes of course
 
user3956566
but do you need to run the flash?
 
6:43 AM
I don't, I have it click-to-run.
Most browsers have it enabled by default though.
Most browsers had all plugins enabled by default until the recent, repeated 0-days against Java.
 
user3956566
yes I disable it
 
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yes
 
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so if it doesn't run nothing can happen
 
user3956566
I'm paranoid now. I wish I knew more about computers and programming
 
If Flash Player doesn't run, a Flash bug shouldn't be exploitable.
 
user3956566
6:45 AM
yes
 
There have been such bugs found in browsers themselves, in particular Internet Explorer but also other browsers, though less frequently than plugins.
 
user3956566
yes
 
user3956566
I always end up gong back to chrome
 
user3956566
I like Opera, but couldn't save my bookmarks
 
user3956566
I liked how it wasn't as intrusive as chrome and less known
 
user3956566
6:47 AM
what's netscape like these days?
 
@MsYvette Same as it was ~10 years ago.
Unless you count Firefox.
 
user3956566
what do you use?
 
Netscape was donated to Mozilla, and now we have Firefox.
 
user3956566
I bounce between chrome, opera, firefox and now edge, but that's mainly when testing websites
 
user3956566
I don't bother using IE
 
user3956566
6:48 AM
rarely
 
I prefer Firefox, I've been using it for a long time, and trust the company more.
 
user3956566
hm
 
user3956566
yes from a privacy viewpoint?
 
Yeah, plus the many plugins.
 
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you might think this is crazy, but I the only thing that reassures me about chrome is the big $$ google puts into developing, so they have an interest in protecting their product
 
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6:51 AM
@BrockAdams hi
 
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I regarded that post as spam.
 
Hi.
 
user3956566
When I went to the website and checked the OPs profile, it looked like an attempt to get people to go to the site,
 
Me too, but the flags get splorched thanks to the edits and rollbacks.
 
user3956566
That's what I was wondering
 
user3956566
6:52 AM
can I ask you while you are here?
 
Since we can't reflag close-vote please.
 
user3956566
if sd posts a couple of things
 
user3956566
ok
 
@MsYvette Drew called me out and I was going to reply.
 
user3956566
@BrockAdams oh ok sure
 
user3956566
6:53 AM
@BrockAdams it's gone
 
I see that. NVM :)
@MsYvette Sure, ask away.
 
user3956566
@BrockAdams ok if sd posts multiple posts
 
What do you mean?
 
user3956566
and I reply to a specific post, how does that affect commands. like sd k
 
user3956566
example
 
user3956566
6:55 AM
smokey -> automatic report
 
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smokey -> automatic report 2
 
user3956566
@BrockAdams I click reply to one like I jsut did on your comment
 
user3956566
what do I need to prefix the commands with?
 
user3956566
do I just go k
 
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or sd k
 
6:56 AM
Yes, just k when replying to a specific post.
 
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as it already has the @SmokeDetector in the reply
 
user3956566
ah k thanks
 
UR welcome. Is that it?
 
user3956566
yes thanks
 
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:)
 
6:57 AM
Ok, good night!
 
user3956566
\o
 
user3956566
@AlexanderO'Mara I'm outta votes :/
 
user3956566
I go through our past requests and vote on any with 4 (that I agree with)
 
user3956566
8:13 AM
@TinyGiant thanks for the teamtag!
 
user4639281
Np.
 
user3956566
I haven't done the gist for bad tag wiki reviews. sorry
 
user4639281
I voted on all questions which have been closed for three days (minimum time for those with less than 20k)
 
user4639281
@MsYvette that's fine, whenever you get around to it.
 
user4639281
Thankfully they should all be low voted ones, so they should only require 3 delete votes.
 
user4639281
8:16 AM
@Tunaki is usually game to run through and put the first delete vote on a bunch of questions.
 
user4639281
Back on tomorrow.
 
@MohammedAoufZOUAG thanks for the help as usual. I hope the computer or new one is working well now. There is a java batch35 up there that has 9/10 at cv4 if you want to take a look
 
8:46 AM
@Drew give'em
 
8:57 AM
Morning o/
 
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\o
 
Morning o/
 
Morning o/
 
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o/
 
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:p
 
9:03 AM
Morning o/
 
user3956566
what do you guys think of this
 
@MsYvette ??
did he paste the contents of wiki articles into the answer?
or just add unrelated shit?
 
user3956566
@Magisch the edit foes into a speech of not using it, like a mini rant
 
user3956566
Don't waste your time with 16bit code when learning asm
 
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I don't think it's appropriate to put in an opinion like that in a tag wiki, it needs to be objective
 
user3956566
9:12 AM
and factual
 
and non-bullshit
 
Yeah thats entirely opinion based
 
user3956566
@Undo have a look at this
 
@MsYvette that's right on point
 
user3956566
@MohammedAoufZOUAG which?
 
9:16 AM
> "This would help people trying to focus on misguided serial tag editors ..."
 
9:30 AM
@MsYvette Rejected...
 
user3956566
@MohammedAoufZOUAG hehe
 
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@PraveenKumar thanks bro
 
9:57 AM
Hey everyone!
 
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\o
 
~o~
 
|o|
 
10:11 AM
I think I'm glad I know nothng about Android.
 
@bummi lol
 
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@MartinJames it's not difficult, it's just that there's so many people thinking they can make money out of it and fair enough, it's free to develop.. but there's a lot of people who have no idea, as present in the question I linked
 
@MsYvette Oh - I believe you, I'm sure that the tag is full of nasties.
 
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@MartinJames yeh I'm moving more into the C# tag.. as that is what most of my degree is based on.
 
10:15 AM
Luckily, I know more about marriage than I do about Android, (so, nothing , then:).
 
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@MartinJames hm I'm not sure what I know about marriage.. or relationships, I think I woudl got to assembly instead (and never used it!)
 
@MsYvette I have a 16-bit marriage:)
 
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@MartinJames :)
 
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> if you think i did'nt explain well just let me know - No Down Vote ;-)
 
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yeh that works for me
 
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10:22 AM
flagged as very low quality is this a suitable flag?
 
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@PraveenKumar what's that for?
 
user3956566
do you mean report?
 
@MsYvette - I'm not sure I'd say that's VLQ.
 
user3956566
@WaiHaLee but it's garbled
 
@MsYvette Notifying me of any stuff..
 
10:28 AM
@MsYvette Did you not follow the instructions? You have to read it right to left:)
 
user3956566
@MartinJames ahhhh sorry my bad :D or maybe there's an embedded algorithm which gives changing directions of where to read next
 
I hardly ever VLQ questions, but I did see this on meta a while ago: "What is it I don't understand about the “very low quality” flag?":
> Use VLQ for obvious, unarguable garbage.
> And George Stocker says that VLQ means that...
> This content should not exist. Delete it. Now. It is not salvageable through editing.
 
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@WaiHaLee thanks.
 
Huh. It's gone now (the question in question) but I still have the tab open in my browser so can see it (faintly). It was closed as too broad before being deleted.
 
user3956566
10:33 AM
yep, I also asked the OP to delete it, so not sure who deleted it
 
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@KevinGuan I think so
 
user3956566
it could probably be ontopic here or SuperUser
 
@MsYvette I still don't know as I said earlier but as a request first need a + 20 score (and I would check if it isn't -60/+80) before it even gets featured for a day I think only looking for not a massive influx of down votes after it being featured or sensible objections in the comments that don't have good counter arguments I'll call it consensus and with that go forward in the burnination process for that tag. I'll put in the guidance/process I'm set to write up this weekend.
 
@MsYvette Hmm...we also have a site called Ask Different.
 
user3956566
10:37 AM
@rene I didn't know you said you didn't know. Sorry I missed that. So with the tags that have been burniated so far, there's been no consistent benchmark?
 
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btw I think your idea is good.
 
@MsYvette I don't think so but I also didn't bother to check. The only issue I see coming up is that some requests seem to quickly pickup members that start what needs to be done while other sit there for months/years without anything happening. It might be the enormous task/effort that comes with such requests. So I expect we will need a we agree on the burnination but we don't fancy wading the next 6 months through some obscure tag
 
user3956566
@rene what do you mean wading the next 6 months through some obscure tag?
 
That > 10 members of this room only spend all their daily votes and edit effort on questions in one single tag for 6 months, day in, day out.
 
user3956566
@rene they don't have to
 
user3956566
10:48 AM
5 posts are already deleted and many of them will naturally be deleted.
 
11:38 AM
Hiya o/
@MsYvette is locked, bullets will fly.
 
@Tunaki Hiya o/ This is Kevin version 3.14. What can I do for you sir?
 
@KevinGuan Quit slacking, answer well, earn rep and cast delete votes!
 
@Tunaki Yes, I know and working on it.
 
@MsYvette Delete-voted on all that I could, closed the only one that was still open.
 
11:58 AM
@Tunaki postgone
 
user3956566
@Tunaki thanks duckie :D
 
user3956566
@Tunaki what does locked mean?
 
@MsYvette google.fr/…
no this is not a rickroll :)
 
user3956566
@Tunaki ahhhh
 
lol
 
@SmokeDetector sd postgone
 
If anyone here comes accross greg-449, feel free to tell him that he can report spam posts here for quick deletion.
 
@Tunaki Invited him here.
 
@KevinGuan Ah thanks I always forget we can do that
 
12:28 PM
Go to write my useless website.
 
Sam
Afternoon
 
Hiya o/
 
@Sam Hiya o/ This is Kevin version 3.14. What can I do for you sir?
 
Sam
Seems like Pie versioning is becoming popular.
 
12:31 PM
Blame LaTeX
 
Is there a function in JavaScript like str.zfill in Python does?
 
@Tunaki Wow, it's great!
 
the google keyword is "left pad"
 
Don't know how to use Google :(
cleverly
 
Sam
12:45 PM
 
1:23 PM
Yay! Just finished my new website (more useless than other websites of mine): k-guan.github.io
Suggestions are always welcome.
 
Well, would you look at that! Finally reached a goal I set two years ago.
 
@KevinGuan flagged as spam
 
Sam
Congrats
 
@KevinGuan I hope to see an animated monkey tear it apart when the count-down reaches 0!
 
@Tunaki :(
@Mogsdad Err...yeah. But I think you'll also see a waffle.
 
1:33 PM
Monkeys AND waffles!? I'm going to sit here staring for the next 26.5 hours. Don't disappoint me!
 
lol
 
Incredible that even a simple task such as this one needs a ~3500 lines of code from a library :p
 
@TylerH So how did the health screening go? Well, we found no drugs in the samples you provided. But look at that avatar... you're obviously high on something!
2
 
You could also store date.utc() instead of getting it each time :)
and you're missing jQuery in there!
 
@Tunaki Because it's more Pythonic ? (Wait, Am I trying to make a JavaScript code more Pythonic? Good downvote reason.)
@Tunaki Ahhhhhhhhhh
@Tunaki Is it really needed in this case?
 
1:39 PM
It is always needed, always! Replace that document.getElementById('date').innerHTML with some jQuery magic :p
 
Q: How many lines of code is jQuery? :P
 
@KevinGuan 1
 
^ yep
 
@Mogsdad Edited
 
1 awfully big long line, but it is one
 
1:41 PM
@KevinGuan I will tell you something more horrifying... jQuery is PHP
 
@Braiam Really? :O
 
or was php, I don't know now
yep, it was php
 
Okay
Then how about now?
 
@Tunaki Correction, 4, one is a comment
But 20,082 bytes
 
Ah, yes the 3 line comments at the start
There's no minified version of moment.js out there?
 
1:44 PM
I wonder how one would find that out?
 
There is. Looks pretty. Just like jQuery.
 
I wish there was a minified js lib whose code was an autostereogram...
 
sd remove- on it
@KevinGuan I'd have used html instead of text :p
 
@Tunaki Ah, need learn more about jQuery's magic :P.
Okay, just pushed the new update. Let me test Tiny's new user-script now:
 
1:59 PM
Your task is to find a bug in the script.
 
Sounds very hard :(
 

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