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Q: How to check in css that a class exists inside a div or not

Ali UsmanHow to check in css that a class exists in a div or not. <div class="check"> <a href="example.com"> </div> We have to check that anchor tag exists or not inside this div with class check

 
 
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Q: MySql queries getting lost connection(mysql workbench) and connection refused (lararvel digital ocean) on perticular query

sanjeev shettyI am running a query select count(*) as aggregate from `tbl_citizen_personal` where `recent_verified_status` is null and (`citizen_family_id` = 70931); This gives me Connection Refused from (API calls to Lararvel backend) and Lost Connection from MySql Workbench. but where, select count(*) as ag...

 
 
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8:23 AM
@OlegValteriswithUkraine We are going to go for more stuff, but I think it's prudent to wait a bit. First, we're going to propose some just-in-time help for "thanks" comments, which will indirectly help to solve this problem, and that's something which has enjoyed broad community support, even among the detractors from the proposal to block accept-begging.
Following that, we'll be proposing a milder version of a policy that focuses on situations where there's a clear conflict of interest, and probably also with a provision about volume (since we're not really trying to worry about users who do this a handful of times). We should include some statistics and probably even an anonymized dump of the types of comments we're talking about. That'll hopefully do a better job of motivating this.
But let's give people a chance to cool down about it first.
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Do you like it there?
@NickstandswithUkraine There was a discussion. :-)
 
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Q: Can someone take a screenshot when there are Pi python-3.x questions

GreedoThere are currently 314,022 questions tagged python-3.x Can someone take a screenshot for me when there are 314,159 please? Thanks

 
@E_net4-KrabbemitHüten Hmm, yeah. Someone got the mistaken impression that because I can recognize impoliteness, I am good at being polite myself. That's... not the case.
 
 
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9:32 AM
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Q: Table shows well on editing window but turns into text when posted

Bram VanroyI just wrote a post over here about SQL (yes, it is a basic question - I know very little about SQL). And while the preview/editing screen correctly shows the table, it disappears when actually posting. (I fixed it in the post to not hamper the quality of that post so the mangled output is not vi...

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Q: How did I get the Quorum badge when I don't have any post on Meta with a score of 2 or more?

The Amateur CoderHow did I get the Quorum badge when I don't have any post on Meta with a score of 2 or more? I have many posts with negative scores but none with positive ones. Are posts with negative scores considered too? Or is it because it's not the overall score and two people have upvoted it?

 
 
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11:08 AM
@NewPosts I don't see why it's closed and deleted. The answer is "Yes", since it is possible for somebody to take a screenshot. Once "Yes" is posted as an answer, it can automatically be given the green checkmark to signal that no other answers are needed. Of course, if OP doesn't give it right away, we should beg educate them.
More seriously, though - the user wants 314,159 because they probably want to make some sort of joke for Pithon or something. I don't see why they don't just edit the number on the page and make the joke. It would be correct eventually. But no need to sit there and hunt for the correct number
 
@VLAZ I guess "irritated two moderators" isn't a compelling reason?
 
Ah, if it causes irritation that infects others, then it needs to be quarantined, I agree.
 
The deletion is arguably aggressive, but the closure is objectively not
 
I'm glad Zoe is at least able to defend her own acti... wait.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, I agree. It didn't need to get a bunch of low-quality answers rolling in, but I wasn't especially concerned about it accumulating votes.
 
11:25 AM
I said it was aggressive, not incorrect
 
That's certainly an aggressive defense :-)
 
was tempted to comment "F12. You're welcome", and that's when I realized deletion was better
 
Evil mods think deletion is better than being helpful
Next, they'll want to delete all of our comments teaching users the rules
 
Evil mods enact a secret policy against screenshots.
 
Despite strident protests on Meta
Enforcement will be enacted by filling the screens of users who take screenshots with low-quality posts
 
11:48 AM
You know what would be evil?
Making a fake screenshot of the question count being one above, and saying "You missed it"
 
But all they'd have to do is check and see that was not the case
Our evilness would be foiled
 
Sure, but for a few seconds, they'd buy it
 
We can't sell ourselves out for tiny victories
 
"Mods enact a secret policy against evil. Users are up in arms because they thought evil was allowed."
 
@CodyGray please, with the rep junkie invasion, I'll take any small victory I can get
Some times even 700 of them per day on average
 
12:25 PM
halp, conspiracy, conspiracy! Cats and mods conspire to take away the rep earned in the sweat of one's brow!
@OlegValter Let's summarize: I understand correctly how SE is currently supposed to work and there are some people here wasting time of other users by trying to convince them in disinformation about some conceptual change they discussed, moderators included? Great, this is so bizarre! Should I report this somewhere? Is this how you educate users? No wonder SE is having problems. If you want to reinvent SE, please do so in an appropriate place and stop melting brains of ordinary users who have no idea whatsoever what you're talking about elsewhere. Thanks! — EvgenKo423 5 hours ago
@CodyGray very much so - apparently, I missed the memo when the monks became warrior monks, but that's fine, I guess
 
@CodyGray I figured, didn't expect it to be a rogue mod going against mac :-)
 
@CodyGray I see - yeah, that's basically the picture I inferred from trying to keep up with comments. Glad to hear there's going to be rounds 2+3, and happy to throw all paws and claws I have in support of the CoI amendment.
 
12:44 PM
@ZoestandswithUkraine We've always been at war with the rep junkies :-)
@ZoestandswithUkraine 700 small victories seems pretty substantial.
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Do you often sweat when posting answers?
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Huh?
 
usually - it's quite an effort to write a decent one
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine When that happens, they get adorned with diamonds.
 
@CodyGray I was aiming for a political joke, but this works too :)
 
@NickstandswithUkraine Oh... that happens too. Just not in this case. Someone (not someone who has spoken in this room in... well, not in a long time, maybe forever) asked why Oleg's comment was deleted, because it doesn't appear to have been insulting. Machavity appeared to have misread it. Easy to do, since the whole conversation was surreal by that point.
@OlegValteriswithUkraine "trying to keep up with comments". It's OK, you can say that I talked a lot. It was observed humorously that even Makyen made a joke about the mod room transcript containing a lot of messages. :-D
But yeah, we're not ready to give up.
I think there are things that the community will agree to that can still result in addressing the primary issues here.
We just did a poor job of communicating and motivating the decision with appropriate context, and probably overreached in an attempt to be "clear" and "fair".
 
1:05 PM
@CodyGray how on earth have they managed to misread it as such? :)
 
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Q: why people close questions with no offering why

DRappSorry all, had to vent. I have been seeing a lot of "CLOSED" questions lately for no specific reason, just voted to close. I ask this to be taken into consideration. If the person asking is a relatively newbie to the site, give it a break. I have seen questions closed in a matter of minutes by ...

 
@CodyGray eh, it's more like "now that I need to find a comment I wanted to reply to, it's buried under heaps of others, and the UI does not help very much by hiding them"
@CodyGray hope so...
@CodyGray that's the spirit :)
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine When a comment thread has gone on for an absurd number of comments, and someone posts a comment starting out with, I don't know, whatever it was, something about living in a monastery in Tibet, it's going to sound like nonsense to any frazzled mod that comes along.
 
@CodyGray xD
"wait, this was about accepts! Now they are talking about Tibet monks? Wut?"
although to be fair, if an unintiated observer lands on the Q&A, they are probably going to have a meltdown
 
One more to add to the pile :-)
 
1:14 PM
I'd thought diamonds are hard to melt :)
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine You thought we seemed like the type to back down from a fight?
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Depends on your weapon. The company sure seems to have stuff that will melt diamonds quickly.
But, pretty much everyone who interacted with that question had a meltdown, either internally as a paradigm shifted without a clutch, or visibly in the comments.
 
@CodyGray nope, just got worried when the conversation took the "well, they won" turn and seeked reassurance :)
@CodyGray oh, I didn't expect SE to be that hot!
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine I did express the opinion that capitulating after barely a day (2 days?) seemed too soon. But it was universally agreed that the community opinion was not going to change, and the writing was on the wall.
 
@CodyGray well, the proposal certainly sparked a discussion :)
 
No one really wants to set a precedent of mods taking action that is against what the community wants.
Even if the community is wrong... *mumble*
 
1:21 PM
@CodyGray Meh, this site isn't a pure democracy.
 
@CodyGray well, yeah, it does seem like those comments are too precious to many [mumbles something about SE being the source of us being in that mess in the first place]
@E_net4-KrabbemitHüten actually, it seems it is if you take Plato's definition :)
 
@E_net4-KrabbemitHüten I heard it's a socialism!
 
Not a very social one, tho :p
 
Haven't you heard? The system works perfectly fine, it's just no one uses it properly
 
I did hear that.
My understanding of the primary issue is that we don't do enough tag burninations.
 
1:25 PM
Ah, I see we share an understanding who that referred to :)
 
I suspect we share a lot more understandings than that, but yes
 
Indeed, why don't you mods keep to yourselves and go burn tags? that's clearly the only problem /s
 
That would not be a reasonable argument, even if mods were the ones who did burninations.
 
It would also be a reasonable argument if there weren't mods that tried to do just that while streamlining the process...
 
Oh yeah
 
1:29 PM
You need to do better, sir! Burning tags is the only KPI mods should be worried about /s
 
Like if the mod who was pushing for this was the same mod who was running most of the burninations?
 
Sure, in fact, that's the only thing ya'll should be worried about - seems that everyone else lives in the rep-based utopia ya'll work so hard to destroy /s
 
So....
Don't tag burninations also destroy the rep-based utopia?
 
oh, now you are asking uncofrtable questions!
 
Those are my faorvite kind!
 
1:36 PM
mine too!
@NewPosts oh, look, yet another 46K+ complaining about not being able to answer anything that moves
 
> There are other times where a specific scenario may have been answered before, but some people just can't wrap their heads around something outside their mental sandbox and need it applied in their situation.
Oh yeah, a duplicate
Good thing we have a way to help the people who can't wrap their heads around something outside of their mental sandboxes.
 
yeah, yeah, I think a dumb AI can be trained to respond to these rants
In fact, I am fairly certain it can do just fine by randomly choosing a string from an array of predefined responses
 
Do you need an entire array?
Wouldn't it just be "Stack Overflow is not a help desk. Please take the tour."
Seems silly to store multiple copies of that in an array.
 
oh, sure, just with some variations - bold here and there, order rearranged to keep things fresh, etc
but yeah, it can do just fine with that line only :)
all that said, I am quite pissed off it's closed as opinion-based
 
Good point. Some variations should have "help desk" rendered with inline code formatting, just to make them more familiar to the people who ask these questions.
Ugh, opinion-based?
 
1:44 PM
yes
again
much better :)
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine worse, their first meta post since it was originally posted on the main site then migrated, thus no "new contributor" indicator.
 
Sigh. Fixed.
 
yeah, the forum mentality doesn't die easily, @AndrewT.
 
Oh look, now we have more bold
 
@CodyGray so much better!
[went away to count how many "discussions" I need to respond to to start hammering. Oh, well, 22]
lol, Peter's comments are, as usual, a joy :)
 
2:29 PM
In today's rant: It's OK to shout in a library if that's your first time there.
 
2:46 PM
duh. You are supposed to shout every time
 
@CodyGray funny how several hundred and increasing wins per day adds up :p
At my current rate, factoring in efficiency increase, I'd guesstimate I could do around 35-55k comments per month. Admittedly, that requires an almost doubling in comments compared to my current levels, but that sounds doable based on stats
 
 
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4:43 PM
@ZoestandswithUkraine how many are there in total by your estimates?
 
Not sure, possibly around 2.5-3.5 times more
One day I'm going to set up stats for real
 
 
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8:44 PM
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Q: An old question is closed as unclear. It gets used as a dupe target. There is a much better target available. What should I do?

Karl KnechtelWhile trying to close a question about a common misconception, I initially found a dupe target at what is the difference between print and return in python? - call this question A. After some more effort, I found a much better target: How is returning the output of a function different from print...

 
 
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Q: That question about std::regex begin/end anchors

The Dreams WindI've just came across this question and feel so confused at so many levels. Why does everyone explain how to make std::regex treat ^/$ as begin/end of lines, while OP is asking how to force them be begin/end of string? I understand that people explain how to align different implementation of the ...

 
11:08 PM
At least we can still delete rep and badger comments. Gonna ramp up my efforts against those, other noise will have to wait :')
 

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