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11:04 PM
@GeorgeStocker See my idea for a compromise on the "Should we re-feature the resignation notice" post.
So what's this "discord" people are talking about? Did someone else create a new one?
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11:28 PM
@GeorgeStocker I'm starting to get the impression that Monica left because of conservative convictions, as it seems the christian mod left for. If this is the case, your actions, and the actions of basically the entire SE team lately would make a whole lot more sense and would be a lot less controversial.
@GeorgeStocker It would also explain why Monica didn't give any screenshots or specifics as to the conversation she had with Sara Chipps, and it would explain why she was "fired" for presumably "not doing anything yet", because it was a self admitted clear value set issue. It would also explain why she claimed to be civil, she probably was, but it was about what was essentially intolerance.
@opa Not to be picky, but there's 2 p's in Chipps.
Let's not speculate until we get more info from the SE team. I'm trusting them to give us an answer now.
@opa it seems pretty obvious to me that both the moderator agreement and common courtesy would stop those involved from airing the dirty laundry verbatim
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@AndrasDeak And yet she kind of did that already
you're missing screenshots
OK, I can't edit or delete my posts on here. What gives?
11:34 PM
24 hours ago, by Andras Deak
Chat's stuck after 2 minutes. But that one's not critical.
@JL2210 You have a 2 minute time limit IIRC
In any case you don't become as widely esteemed a moderator as Monica if you're seemingly civil except intolerant. I'm not buying that. So let's take JL2210's advice and wait for further information. We have plenty of information already, some conflicting, and choosing a subset that fits our respective narratives won't help.
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@AndrasDeak right, but she didn't need to, if she explained what actually transpired even slightly more specifically, we would have a much better idea.
Ah.
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@AndrasDeak Again, they aren't going to clarify, Sara made that clear. And also plenty of people who do not tolerate trans people aren't normally "bad" people in every day life
11:36 PM
okay
@opa I heard @GeorgeStocker saying that SE will clarify in 1-2 days. Do you have some evidence that disputes that?
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@JL2210 It's news to me if that's the case, if you point me to that, I'll stop speculating
@JL2210 this is what I'm basing my stuff off of. meta.stackoverflow.com/a/389908/2036035
Well, I can search the transcript again.
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11:41 PM
@AndrasDeak I have no doubt that she was a great moderator or a great person to a lot of people, but even great moderators can hold prejudiced notions that are incompatible with inclusion.
@JL2210 why ping me?
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@JL2210 Okay I'll hold off on speculating until 2 days from now
@AndrasDeak Whoops. Sorry.
@opa rob and another mod earlier in the day laid out an objective portrayal of events, I would look for those in here.
@JL2210 to be fair to George, he didnt say SE would be clarifying anything, just that they were planning on communicating something within the next 1-2 days
11:42 PM
@opa they key difference between Robert and us being that he saw things on the other side, so again if he says Monica is, and I quote, "embodiment of the [...] inclusion you seek", through all this crap, then I'm willing to give his experience slightly more weight than your FUD
it was on the starlist at one point, but the starlist is kinda crowded today.
maybe pinning it might be helpful
it could be found here except the starboard is broken and stars are always ordered weirdly
@AndrasDeak literally no one looks at the full star list
looking at transcript highlights is much better
that's what I never look at
I take it that stars on Chat aren't the same thing as upvotes on comments?
11:45 PM
@JL2210 they are worth exactly as much
We should make chat rooms just empty Meta questions. That would make thing so much easier.
@AndrasDeak i didnt know it existed until about 3 weeks ago
God, all the chat rooms are blaring. Can you turn down the volume?
I wish I could read all of this but I know I can't.
look for the "volume settings"
If you find a toggle bar, left is usually softer, right is louder
@JL2210 wait you have a sound on each message?
the agony
11:49 PM
(in the top right on desktop view there's a speaker icon where you can toggle what gives a sound)
It's hard to sort out all the things that are happening right now. But from my observations in, say, the previous year, I cannot shake of the impression that what comes in the disguise of "inclusiveness" is in fact dangerously narrow-minded and oppressive. Words and actions simply don't align. And if this is the case, it would be naive to assume that the officials could make an attempt to clarify things whatsoever.
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It was a joke.
How about "flaring"? Does that make the situation clearer?
yeah :p
@Marco13 humans in situation of power will use that power to align to the needs of their tribe. tribe composition changes, but the paradigm doesn't.
Flaring is bad, it's very hard to put out a flare.
wouldn't it stop if submerged in water?
11:51 PM
Not flaring, just... actively being participated in.
These chat rooms all across SE are jam-packed with stuff about recent events.
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Hollywood says no
I have hollywood way up there on my folks-who-know-how-stuff-works list :p
@FélixGagnon-Grenier depends on what is burning. self oxidizing fuel can burn underwater

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