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6:15 PM
@Dragonrage toxic?
 
☢️
 
@TylerH "very bad, unpleasant, or harmful."
 
slimy. deceptive. abusive.
 
@Dragonrage To play devil's advocate, do you think each website should be pay-to-access, then?
 
@TylerH There's multiple ways to make ads decent
 
6:20 PM
I'm perfectly fine with ads on sites that produce content
 
Very few of which are standardized
 
I'm just wondering because the premise was all ads are toxic
so the natural response is 'how should a website earn money to stay around?'
 
SO on the other hand... they're not producing content. We are. the site didn't have ads like it does today when i was a content producer. I find it insulting that they're moving away from community based ads to full on google ads, despite the fact that i'd be blocking them either way. but i still feel like it's abusing the work i and many others have put into this.
post blog articles and run ads there
 
@TylerH depends on the site.
 
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Q: Answer removed, makes my referring answer incomplete

Ruud HeldermanLast year I wrote this answer to a question about Read the Docs: https://stackoverflow.com/a/52131151/2485966 The answer ends with a note about self-hosting. I never bothered to provide a detailed explanation; I assumed a link to this related question would be sufficient: https://stackoverflow.c...

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Q: Is there any way to see a graph of all the edits I made to posts?

DharmanAsking purely out of my own vanity. My profile page shows a list of all the posts I have edited, less the ones which got deleted. I usually make a lot of edits to both answers and questions and it would be nice to see some statistics or data, e.g. how many of the posts I have edited were later d...

 
6:42 PM
@Dragonrage what is an example of a site you think should, and an example of a site you think shouldn't (rely on pay-to-access)
 
I like to pay websites that I enjoy instead of seeing ads on them
Ads are cancer
 
I prefer to pay for services that i want. I won't pay for news/videos because there's no way of knowing whether or not it's what i want beforehand.
 
I consume enough youtube that it's worth it
 
paying for reduced ads is rediculous
 
pay per view or pay to ask would also kill StackExchage
 
6:49 PM
I get 0 ads on youtube, not just reduced
 
Why should i pay for something I can legally get for free
 
StackExchange is doing a good job killing itself without asking for a paid model
I mean, I fully support adblockers, but I like to pull my own weight as well, if I can afford it
 
@BoltClock Journeyman?
 
@Zoethetransgirl nope
 
I thought the quote was if CM's start stepping down
not moderators
 
6:52 PM
Also I have the best timing
 
yeah ^^"
 
*double take* Where'd you come from??
 
He just stopped along his journey
 
hell
 
.... I literally randomly joined
Then saw my name
 
6:55 PM
sure
 
This is where Henders would usually respond with "groan"
 
meh
 
Mind the onebox, please
 
Let's all do copious amounts of psilocybin
 
6:57 PM
Is this room opposed to oneboxes?
 
^
 
moderately
 
snort moderately moderating oneboxes
 
Moderate all opinions that start with italics.
 
7:06 PM
no fun allowed
 
@JohnDvorak wonder where that came from ...
 
Well, allowed just long enough for a mod to notice. Up to 90 seconds of fun allowed with consequences to be assigned later.
 
There is a difference between "no fun allowed" and not allowing unconstructive messages in here.
 
There are a lot more unconstructive messages in here than my "ban the moderators"
 
That may well be so. However, you have had a bit of a history with making unhelpful comments in here. Would you mind toning it down, please?
 
7:09 PM
It feels like you're just occasionally making ancilliary commentary to elicit a reaction
It is grating
 
@TylerH netflix, stackoverflow
 
... does that mean my throws popcorn messages are an issue...
 
no
 
\o/
throws popcorn everywhere
 
Waste of popcorn.
 
7:13 PM
... picks it up again
 
@NickA do you have any snacks besides popcorn? i hate popcorn because it always get stuck in my teeth
@NickA barely under the 5 second rule. you got lucky
 
So we can make a mess all over the floor but we can't ban moderators? Pft. Double standards.
 
@Dragonrage What do you think I am? A cinema stand?!, sure, I've got nachos
 
steals Nick's popcorn
 
D:
 
7:14 PM
@NickA Ohhh, been hiding the good stuff, have we?
 
The movie theatre near my apartment serves chicken fingers and booze
 
@NickA ooohh, i love nachos. do they come with salsa and jalepenos?
 
>.> no guacamole, only salsa and cheese
AND jalapenos...
You can get a side of sour cream if you beg for it too
 
i can live with that
ill take a double order of nachos with extra salsa and jalepenos, but hold the sour cream please
 
@ndugger There's an online takeaway site that delivers booze from an off-license... nothing else, i could order a bottle of vodka right now
 
7:17 PM
I had booze delivered from amazon prime now a couple of times
 
I've had that, but this is a takeaway site
I order my gin online
 
you're a takeaway
gin is bad
 
How dare you!
 
I don't really drink anymore these days... I smoke... other things
not meth
 
I'm British, I drink gin (other brits pls side with me here)
 
7:23 PM
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Q: Why was I suspended for saying this answer is OK?

RichI was suspended from reviewing until February because I said this answer looked ok: https://stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/24199630 It appeared to give useful information as to why the user was having issues and I wasn't sure why it was incorrect to mark it as ok. Could anyone expla...

 
Strawberry margheritas for me, please
 
@Dragonrage I'll second this
 
@Dragonrage so how should SO's website earn money?
(also sorry for the late responses each time -- work's busy)
 
hands out 4 portions of nachos with extra salsa and jalapenos
It was both double portions right?
 
yes
You do realize you have become the official Room food vendor now, right?
It's time like these that I do envy Discord's role feature
 
7:25 PM
I think that happened some time ago...
Whos the owner of the meta chat discord? lol
 
Zoe I think
 
@Zoethetransgirl Make it so!
 
For the Dutch here: Daphne Schippers!
 
@weegee owns it
 
7:27 PM
@CindyMeister Is she not an athlete?
 
"heptathlon" sounds exhausting
 
She just won the gold medal at the world championships over 200 m
I have sports running in the background, not music :-)
 
Mods can create roles though
 
@CindyMeister \o/
we won!
I missed it :(
 
@TylerH maybe with SO Jobs, Teams, Enterprise, selling merch, etc
 
7:29 PM
@AndrasDeak Heptathlon is bad enough; how about decathlon :-) And those guys are really fighting, this evening. The sheer power of some of their efforts. As good as the Stabhochsprung (sorry, the English term isn't coming to mind) yesterday. Impressive, the Swede and the US man.
@rene I'm betting it will be re-run a number of times! It was a good race. To the last second, it wasn't clear who was going to cross the finish line first.
 
@CindyMeister pole vaulting
At least that’s what google tells me
 
yup, that's it
 
@rene weird? probably because I originally wrote "it has anything to do" instead of "it has nothing to do". Otherwise, I'm surprised that I'm known for "leaving weird comments". I try to leave a comment when I delete a post which has positive votes
 
And a Swiss just won bronze, which is a real thing for us :-)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre yeah, I had to read the comment multiple times to see what you meant there. As I expected the OP might visit that as well they would be even more confused.
 
7:39 PM
@rene (replying as promised, since I didn't have easy access to chat earlier). In that case, why pinging me specifically. I wasn't the one who deleted, so why not use flags? And what should be done exactly? The answer is link only, audit reply should be "recommend deletion/delete"
@rene you still have the "leaving weird comments" things to explain.
 
@Dragonrage Right! Thanks for jogging my memory :-)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I take that back, it was only this one weird comment
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I wasn't sure if for all cases mods can make posts be no longer used for audits. So it was more an inquiry so see if a flag would make sense
 
@Dragonrage So they shouldn't directly try to finance the website itself, but rather accept that it's a cost center and not a revenue center? In other words, this category of website should only cost the company money, and be paid for entirely by other ventures
 
@rene I don't see any option (besides undeletion, which is a big no-no). I'll ask around.
 
thanks
 
7:56 PM
another precision: I originally deleted the post, then Samuel undeleted, and deleted right afterwards. I think it has the effect you're looking for: undeletion removes the post from the audit list, then deletion ... just deletes. I think the problem is solved for that one.
 
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Q: Aren't we allowed to close question asked by a staff member?

Temani AfifAn SO staff member asked an interesting question here: Overriding global CSS variables which is, at least for me, a perfect duplicate of another one: CSS scoped custom property ignored when used to calculate variable in outer scope so I closed it and added my comment. The question get reopened a...

 
8:09 PM
Depends on the queue.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre ah, thanks for looking into it! Appreciated.
 
In some queues delete undelete doesn't remove the audit
 
@BhargavRao but Sam probably knows what he's doing (BTW I looked on SO teams and found nothing on the matter). It was flagged as VLQ.
 
The first post and late answer audits aren't cleared
Ah, k. It'll be removed from LQPQ
 
I see. Which is logical to keep FP and LA since deleted or not their date doesn't change.
Well, half victory: removed from LQPQ at least
 
8:13 PM
Yeah, I haven't had much time off late to continue on that documentation on Teams.
 
@BhargavRao doesn't sound too logical
 
Anyway, time to sleep \o
 
documentation? I would have said encyclopedia :)
 
good night
 
don't sleep yet. You have a post to create on teams :)
 
8:14 PM
:D
 
The work of Bhargav on SO mod teams (like on the main site) is impressive. People want to be moderators just to be able to read his posts there.
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Each time I read a useful post, I don't need to check who wrote it...
 
8:29 PM
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Q: User Research email from Stack Overflow: Calendly URL is not valid

sanyashI just recieved an email with the following content: When I click the button I am redirected to https://calendly.com/cmanara/emailinterviews and the page looks like: What is going on? Is this email really from SO? (I never recieved them before) If yes, what about the invalid url? Will it be...

 
@NickAthePopcornKing Had popcorn with maple and golden syrup today.
 
Related to Nick's tweet... I just use the darkreader extension for everything. I don't even bother checking for a "dark mode" option on websites.
 
Oh, the excellent DarkReader Add-On. If only it would be better at handling the borders and some items.
 
8:44 PM
I would love a proper dark theme for SO
 
We can dream.
 
well Nick's tweet suggests otherwise
 
just use the dark reader extension... sure, it makes some things this diahrrea brownish color, but it's still better than being blinded by a bright white screen
 
I'm not a fan of dark mode for most things, but i definitely prefer it for chat
 
I have dark mode everything
slack, discord, atom, chrome, postman
 
dark mode for macos too
 
i hate everything that doesnt have dark mode
 
@ndugger for chat I have rlemon/Madara's dark theme
 
dark reader is applied on every site, so I just stick with it for SO, even though the brown is ugly
 
I'd prefer something "off-the-shelf"
@ndugger wow, that really is poop
 
8:49 PM
dark reader doesn't add emoji support to so chat
🚽
 
🚽
get a mac, you pleb
 
mac sucks
 
no u
 
windows techincally does it too
but it sucks
 
yeah, I think they added an emoji keyboard
 
8:50 PM
@ndugger mine doesnt look like that
 
win+.
but it's slow
 
@KevinB sounds like a pro
 
it does some things with oneboxes too
 
@Druckles no black treacle? disappointing ;)
Haha! My name updated :D
 
My screen cuts off your new name. You're just Nick a the Popcorn.
So I guess you throw yourself?
throws compilers
 
9:03 PM
throws self :(
 
Are you an exception?
 
@ConspicuousCompiler my screen just shows Nick A the
then shows a picture of a cat typing on a keyboard
 
public function givePopcorn() // @throws NickA
 
@AndrasDeak Who isn't?
 
Exception up = new Exception(); throw up;
 
9:05 PM
@user58 im a norm to the exception
 
Needs
`-overflow:hidden;`
`+text-align: left;`
on `.monologue .tiny-signature .username`
 
Ok, so I had assumed Markdown worked in chat formatting. It appears I'm woefully underinformed.
 
It only works in single line IIRC
If you posted them as separate lines it would've been fine
 
indeed
 
9:09 PM
What Popcorn said.
 
Thanks NickAthe!
 
multiline messages are either 1. all quote, 2. all code (with four spaces only, ctrl+k does that), or 3. all text. But raw links are rendered as links unless it's code...
 
unless their in code?
 
yeah, thanks, just edited
 
9:10 PM
All reasonable behavior, but unexpected.
 
@KevinB Why did you edit this from right to wrong?
 
the origin of that comes from js chat
 
@NickAthePopcornKing to keep your brain on it's toes
:P
 
@KevinB ahhhh ic
 
9:23 PM
@ConspicuousCompiler make a draft answer using markdown, preview it, screen shot it, upload screenshot to draft, paste image link screenshot in chat, profit
 
@Dragonrage I feel like there needs to be some Lisp in the middle for it to be a proper solution.
 
@ConspicuousCompiler ((make a draft answer using markdown), (preview it), (screen shot it), (upload screenshot to draft), (paste image link screenshot in chat), (profit))
better?
 
@Dragonrage I know you're joking but posting code as an image is a crime
 
10:00 PM
@Dragonrage <3 The best.
 
@ConspicuousCompiler oh wait, i forgot to add a bunch of close parens to the end, just in case
 
 
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Q: Not an answer approved as helpful, yet answer still exists

j08691I flagged this answer as "not an answer" which was approved as helpful, yet the answer remains. The "answer" itself is one sentence which appears to be a question: It is assessed correctly the parameter 'action' on the page /devilmaycry/register ? It has no up or down votes, no edits, and...

 
11:52 PM
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Q: C# - reverse duplicates for "var"?

Alexei LevenkovThere are two highly rated by search engines questions discussing what "var" means in C#. Currently "What does var mean in C#" is duplicate of "Use of var keyword in C#" even if later is clearly off-topic as it is essentially "why I should even use that syntax - discuss/flame" (and has historical...

 

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