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11:00 PM
like, the fairness of natural selection or something?
 
@Jhoverit well for once, I don't end life which directly suffers pain and has emotions like fear and definitely doesn't want to end (die).
The impact or sustainability is whole different ball game
 
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@jAndy My answer to that one is dead simple lol.
 
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Well you've been talking as if it's not the whole killing the cow thing and it's more about sustainability and taking care of.respecting nature
 
no not really, that was just the comment about the destroyed tree
 
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I'm just trying to understand. Is it killing the animal, or is it the impact that I have through this chain of eating the animal which eats the plants etc that you laid out?
 
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11:01 PM
Ah alright.
 
why not both?
 
about veganism and what is the right thing to do, other arguments are way more important
 
@towc no, haven't ever bothered
 
@ssube I know this place in BA....
 
Fun fact: releasing wolves into an ecosystem is a great stabilizer
 
11:01 PM
if you ever come visit
 
user1596138
I don't feel sympathy for any type of animal I have eaten thus far
 
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So makes it easy.
 
do you kill any animal yourself?
 
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A cow is a big dumb goldfish IME.
 
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Yes. Like I said farm raised
 
11:02 PM
Are you sure it wasn't a dairy, Pam?
 
well, it at least is somewhat honest then. 99.9% won't and 99.2% couldn't do that
 
they make dairy PAM now?
 
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We had chickens, turkey, goats, cows etc
 
@jAndy source?
 
me
 
11:03 PM
Im at the end of my wits with this one. I am saving a mongoose schema and there is no error but when i check the database the document isn't updated.
 
lol
 
user1596138
I guess I obviously feel the need to quickly kill whatever it is..
 
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I wonder why I feel that way when I don't specifically value that life itself or believe it's processing what's happening in the capacity that I am
 
I'm pretty sure many people are more than capable of killing and eating an animal, sympathy wise
 
but there is a reason why on any product you want to sell, you see happy cows and pigs on a sunshine green farm.. and not slaughterhouse covered in blood and tears
 
11:04 PM
and the response from the save is the updated object.
 
people just can't stand it
 
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Idk man. I worked on the duck farm once...
 
Feeling bad is for poor people
 
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You walk around in a foot or two of duck shit. Looking for the retarded/unhealthy ducks. Grab em by the neck spin em around and throw them in the sack
 
sounds like a psycho to me
 
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11:05 PM
Throw them away..
 
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That's the job.
 
@jAndy just coming out: I'd honestly be a vegan, if it wasn't for the fact that it takes more effort than I am willing to put into it. I really really enjoy meat, but that doesn't mean I don't feel at least somewhat like a huge dick overstepping his boundaries
 
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They got dozens of guys out there. Teens etc this is not some horrendous task lol
 
and I get that might be an understatement for you
 
and anybody who can do that... does just not have any respect for life in general and so, would also murder with ease
 
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11:06 PM
Just rural life. Also I guarantee it's no where near 99.9% of people having an issue with killing their own food
 
All this talk is making me frisky for some hunting
 
@SterlingArcher oy
 
user1596138
That just says how privileged your life has been, living in the cities where you think everyone feels like that.
 
hunting mushrooms, right?
 
@Jhoverit I don't even live in a big city and as I already told you, grow a lot of food myself
 
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11:07 PM
Yeah but telling me how you see killing animals for food says a lot
 
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I don't think I know very many girls even that would take issue with it. You do watcha gotta do we are carnivores lol
 
@Jhoverit tbf there's an easy and a right way. Humanity could go on to the right way, but has been choosing the easy way because it's still available
 
@towc who decides which way is the right way?
 
I'm sad. I was just spoiled of my love for React because of async setting of store. Damn, can't anything be perfect in this world?
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier vue
 
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11:09 PM
@towc What you call the right way is really just the privileged way
 
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In the real world people are survivors.
 
No guys, it's just a "way"
 
All I'm saying is actually: There is zer0 necessity for like 60% of the worlds human population to eat animals to live a great, healthy life. I prove that in person (alongside millions other vegans). So I don't see the point to cause so much pain and death.
 
because bacon, mainly
 
we should eat bugs and mushrooms
 
11:09 PM
@Jhoverit but you agree with me that killing animals is much easier than finding other resources, considering that for many it's morally very wrong, and now simply not really sustainable?
 
yea and all which comes are stupid answers like that one
 
Hell no, farming is so much easier than raising or hunting animals
 
I'm used to it
 
@jAndy The Game
 
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11:10 PM
No @SterlingArcher being able to eat veggies and shit all day is a real privledge. It's so much easier like @towc is saying to hunt and be carnivores like we generally have as a species
 
you're also privileged enough to not need to kill animals, @Jhoverit
 
that too
 
Meat is not a privilege
 
yours isn't
 
11:10 PM
ooooooo
 
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@SterlingArcher Farming is not easier than raising livestock. They're basically inseparable
 
/steak drop
2
 
:sizzle:
 
Y'all gotta stop throwing that work privileged around, because I can guarantee you the majority and then some never have to kill animals to eat
 
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@towc I am today sure.
 
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11:11 PM
In 2008 my Dad worked for GM tho. ANd we ate all the beef we had stocked for years and years
 
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@SterlingArcher have to? or get to?
 
@Jhoverit well, there's also that. But I meant that managing with not eating meat is much harder, in terms of figuring out what we should eat to still get all the nutrients we need
 
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Cause ya know. 2nd depression etc. Literally couldn't buy food and we had the biggest garden ever for 2 years lol
 
that might have been a big problem centuries ago, but now we have science
 
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@towc Yea and you probably think you need to eat daily too.
 
11:12 PM
@HatterisMad see, that's where privilege comes into play. We're fighting about what we should and shouldn't eat, while some people out there are fighting simply to eat anything
 
@Jhoverit I'm not sure we do
 
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@SterlingArcher wat
 
we might be better off if we do, we might be better off if we don't. I don't know enough about that
 
I went geopolitical this is too far for me
 
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Come see me when red dawn happens cause I know how to survive outside of organized society 😂
 
11:13 PM
I'm out
 
@SterlingArcher ever seen those Chinese markets man? like a billion people taking home live seafood. :P
gotta get dead somehow
 
user2620028
you speak as if we experience the same things
 
@SterlingArcher in all fairness, most (sane) vegans recognize that when your life is in danger, it's totally morally acceptable to eat animals
 
@rlemon you shouldn't buy dead shellfish ever
 
^
 
11:13 PM
noop, I'm out
 
you redeemed yourself
 
user1596138
I don't see anything wrong with not eating animals. You can even feel better about not killing them, I sure feel a lil bad eating something I took care of every day for 6 months haha
 
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Just t get both sides of my view out there ^
 
I mean, if @jAndy sends me the right dose of everything I should eat every day and goes to find it for me, I'm happy to pay him
 
@towc just drink soylent and admit to being a neckbeard
 
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11:15 PM
@towc You'll need to tell him how many steps you're planning on taking. Etc lol
 
same
maybe I wouldn't eat meat either
 
user2620028
@Jhoverit yeah, i had to kill our farm animals to eat since i was a little kid. felt a little bit bad about it but not much.
 
if I had another easy choice
 
@ssube I'd still love to do that. It's just a little too expensive, for now
 
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I eat when I'm hungry. I stop when I'm not. Some days I don't get hungry if I've pigged out recently and it is what it is
 
11:16 PM
actually, I should try it when I'll move to the hackerspace
 
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@HatterisMad Yea I was making the point that it's really not weird at all for us. Even the city kids don't mind when it's time to eat but they seemed to think like the majority -and I mean the 99th percentile- of people aren't able to go through with it
 
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Or have some issue with it. Its just a part of life and if you can't handle it, your parents just failed at preparing you in some categories is all lol
 
@Jhoverit you could say that for everything, it's not a fair argument
 
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Like if you cannot handle it when you need to do that. Not if you're just sympathetic to animals
 
> if your parents didn't teach you how to hate on jews, they must have failed at being a nazi
 
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11:18 PM
That was a really solid analogy @towc
 
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I guess. If they were legitimately nazis.. That would be totally true so
 
wait wut
I couldn't parse the reply to hatter is mad. I just assumed you were shitting on privileged kids who don't want to eat meat
 
I see you guys are at the nazi phase of the discussion
 
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This ones too touchy man. Whatever I say I know how it's gonna go.
 
11:19 PM
if not, then I apologize
still, the argument would be invalid :P
 
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I was talking about privileged kids who wouldn't snap the chickens neck for dinner lol
 
oh, then it works, yeah
I mean, it works either way, but now I fully agree with it
 
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I fully agree with you
 
I say that with a bit of sarcasm or whatever the term is
 
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I'm fuzzy man it's 520
 
11:20 PM
filling my role as the biased person
 
@Jhoverit you mean like, the very great majority of anyone who eats meat? I'm betting a fat imaginary 20$ that most of the meat eaters here do not kill their meat.
 
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Lol this is real and not by coincidence...
 
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!!afk stoysich for steak and jerky
 
@Jhoverit good for you!
 
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11:21 PM
i see these hunters today and they don't know how to build credit or grow a savings account. Sheesh the lack of survival skills of some people. Probably couldnt open a blister pack if it was the only food they had.
 
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Lol legit I sent that message like 2 hours ago. Jus funny I was already headed to the butchers before we had this talk...
 
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@Webster They don't know how to leave the rural county areas, if I'm catching your drift.. I have some experience with that with family members
 
no, i was making a joke about the current state of survival skills
 
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I thought you were saying the redneck kids have the opposite issue of the city kids lol
 
farm people complaining that city people dont kill and skin their own food
 
11:23 PM
@Webster or use a dishwasher. These people...
 
user1596138
One can't keep themselves alive without a community structure, one can't make anything better for themselves than their life in the woods
 
the world has changed and hunting skills are useful after the fall or if you live in a wooded area
 
my neck is red because acne. Does it count?
 
why is it not black friday week on amazon
 
user1596138
You can only hunt for like 8 days in my state
 
11:24 PM
should be black friday week month already
 
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It is not a useful skill with society fully functioning lol. Unless you go backcountry camping or something and literaly live the land for a bit
 
black friday = open hunting day
 
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If I ended up in a legit survival situation I would be foraging and fishing anyway. Not hunting anything with legs
 
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Just impractical lol
 
id just eat muck grubs from under a log
 
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11:26 PM
Shit. Unless it walked in front of me ig lol
 
man
charging for shipping is so 2014
 
2017 is so 2014
 
i kinda expect 2 day delivery for free
or ive gotten used to it and so expect it
and will scoff having to wait 3 days
 
almost $600 for a weight bench :(
 
does it incline and have the leg thingy?
 
11:30 PM
no
 
then it must be super sturdy?
 
it's the best
 
nice
 
made in ohio too
 
that means its high in the middle
 
oh right @Mosho did you get your eye surgery?
 
this thursday
 
oh
enjoy...?
 
lasic?
 
hello people
 
11:33 PM
yeah
 
cool my old gf got that, still working great
 
im still having issues figuring out my issue for why my input box disapears after passing my jquery validating
 
i like to tell her she owes me her eyes
 
but im still confused
 
@Webster ouch
I'd never let anyone pay for anything of mine if they said that
I mean, I don't let anyone pay for anything of mine tbf
 
11:36 PM
yeah thats a super common value lots of people have but i dont
i was raised asking for help and accepting handouts
 
well, congrats at failing
@Webster meh, that's fine
 
it is a common and noble notion, not to ask or accept
so... shame
 
if someone offers help in something that's not critical, I absolutely let them
but knowing that I'm always happy to help too
 
i think giving and receiving help are important and healthy
lots of imbalance in that area amongst people
 
oh yeah, if someone's a dick to someone else, they're basically dead to me
 
11:39 PM
I like underdogs
 
or well, locked up in a basement to the radiator at full capacity with no windows
 
warm and cozy?
 
for a few seconds, yeah
 
i think accepting and rejecting people and friends is healthy too but i have a hard time cutting people off
 
that's not necessarily a bad thing
 
11:43 PM
i had some learning talking about everyone is a good person, we're all born good, and as much as someone is acting like a dick is how much afraid or wounded they are
so compassion for everyone, even the pricks
 
damn, can't find that interactive thing that showed how being accepting and assuming decent intentions is the best way to go forward according to game theory
there you go: ncase.me/trust
@Webster ^ good read
 
i learned that to de-esculate you should hit back at 75% power you were hit with
to squash it
thanks @towc ill check that out
 
I don't like people who try to deescalate everything tbf
 
How to set a checkbox as checked in a HTML form when I clic a table row that has a value "php"... for example if I have a <input type="checkbox"name="skill1" id="php" value="php"> PHP in the form, this in the table <td>php</td>? I've tried something like document.getElementById("php" + this.cells[15].innerHTML.trim()).checked = true; but no succeed. I got my sample here: jsfiddle.net/einnerlink/u8znf59e/12
 
can you put a little more effort into presenting the question?
 
11:52 PM
I have two successive function call (funcs are passed to component through props). The first one triggers a setState({data}) and the second uses data set in the first one to act correctly. Is it merely luck that I observe that they are happening in a synchronous manner?
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier it's a shame there's no way to test it
 
I'm not sure I am skilled enough to be sure wether you are joking or not. Is there a very obvious way to verify that I just don't know?
 
try different configurations, see if there's a pattern
I'm joking
 
well, I am pretty sure it is luck
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I think it is as well
 
11:54 PM
(I genuinely don't know if there's a guaranteed pattern or not, but it sounds like something easy to test)
 
well... my first idea was to add a log in setState callback (the second argument) but on second though, that will prove nothing.
 
try writing new separate code instead
 
what do you mean?
 
create other components in an isolated environments, and mess about with what configurations of parent/childhood and order do
I might not be bringing you any closer to the answer because I don't know what it is, but that's what I'd do
I'll sit quietly now
 
can someone look at my jquery code and tell me why my input disapears after validation
$(function()
{
    $("#myform").validate(
      {
        rules:
        {
         item1:
          {
            required: true,
            number: true,
            min:1
          },
          item2:
          {
            required: true,
            number: true,
            range:[10,100]
          },
          item3:
          {
            required: true,
            range:[0.08,0.09]
          },
          item4:
          {
            required: true,
            number: true,
            range:[-9.5,11.1]
my html looks like this:
somone showed me a site earlier to read
but it didnt really help me
because i cant figure out what im missing
 

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