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14:00
@BenjaminGruenbaum Nitzan supports me on this, we're moving all of TipRanks to F# starting next version.
(See my message above that one)
maybe I'll learn F#
The next one I'd like to learn is prolly R
Go or Rust would be more useful for my game stuff, but a functional language would be fun
I keep meaning to learn Lisp and make @FlorianMargaine proud
Rust would be pretty useful for my embedded shit
I keep meaning to give it a serious sit down
@MadaraUchiha I just realized I don't remember any F#, I remember it's pretty neat though :D
14:02
@rlemon Rust should be kind of a given in your field of work
@ssube Common Lisp has surprisingly nice features, but the tooling is shit, and so is the runtime.
@OliverSalzburg yes it should, but I'm using node and python for everything I could be doing much better in Rust
'better'?
Clojure is more refined in my opinion, also more pragmatic.
@rlemon I meant because of the moisture :P
14:02
@rlemon we should do a hangout and get a bunch of people to learn rust
@Luggage well, more direct? node doesn't like playing with hardware as well as it should
I love how it's still ES2015 if you remove the checkbox
and python is meh, good, but also meh
@ssube Do eeeet! CLisp is really fun!
I haven't tried the others to say :P
But I love the whoa moment I had when I first got homoiconicity
Okay, so question. Boss had a pain in the ass request. Basically, if I truncate the text on a dropdown list, he wants the user to be able to hover over the list item and have a floating label with all the text. Is this possible/worth trying to implement? Or should I tell him too bad, so sad. I already provide timestamps.
14:04
@Trasiva I thought that happens automatically
just make node extensions in rust :)
@OliverSalzburg If it does, then it doesn't happen due to my programmatic truncation.
Do options have titles?
@SomeGuy will I have to learn words like that?
14:05
and select title doesn't appear when the menu is open
@ssube Not even once :P
That's totally optional so you can sound uptight and whatnot
@Trasiva Oh, sorry. Misread that
@MadaraUchiha @BenjaminGruenbaum we're just interested in job security
@MadaraUchiha dear god, why?
14:12
!!tell @littlepootis why
@ssube Command pootis does not exist. (note that /tell works on commands, it's not an echo.)
@ssube Don't be annoying, drop the @, nobody likes a double-ping.
god damn you robot
!!tell littlepootis why
@littlepootis because you touch yourself at night
<div>Hello<span>Game</span></div> - if you set the .textContent property of the outer div, it should overwrite the inner node as well, right?
14:14
yes
yeah should
@jAndy Yup
!!afk vaping and refreshing amazon page
@Linkgoron why do you think the code looked the way it did when I handed it to you?
:D
Love that easteregg
not even concrete?
14:22
@Trasiva Palm Beach county sheriff department might be the most corrupt sheriff department in the country
@KendallFrey no that's just fancy cement
I thought that guy was banned
4 messages moved to Trash can
your 'back in' crap was told to stop, and you have to start contributing to the room in a positive way
He was told to stop why not just ban him
You give him more leniency just because he's not being overtly dickish
14:25
I really want to write a script that saves 007's life story
@Trasiva interesting read Basically a machine learning algorithm was created to track suspicious flight patterns that coincide with surveillance. After removing for skydiving and other recreational activities. They found the FBI, DEA, and a couple other 3 letter government agencies spying on US citizens from the sky
buzzfeed?
What they also found was Palm Beach County Sheriffs office with a plane and a cell tower interceptor
@OliverSalzburg I felt the same way, but if you read the article it's one of the best written articles I've read about national security as of late
@OliverSalzburg in the era of fake news, buzzfeed reigns king?
They really did their research
14:27
@KendallFrey yea
I calibrated mine
They either stole it or faked it
^^^ that's the flight pattern
@OliverSalzburg huh?
@rlemon on the wood filament it's suggested to get a .6 nozzle fyi
@Loktar srs. you gonna be around tomorrow night / sat morning?
@Loktar Was it obviously wrong from the factory?
14:27
Maybe from other credible sources, like 4chan
people say it clogs the shit out of it
@KendallFrey nah it was almost dead on
@OliverSalzburg is this your attempt at trolling?
but where I got it they do a test print on each one
well that's good
@Loktar really? the reddit post said .25 or .35 or something like that
< .5
14:28
same as @rlemon
@rlemon your nozzle is a .4 that comes with it
@Vap0r No. I'm actually like this 24/7
@OliverSalzburg Don't doubt 4chans ability to track flights, they found that Shia Lebouf flag live stream by watching the sky in the stream and finding out its location from flight patterns in the sky. lol
@Vap0r he's German
that and glow in the dark filament are apparently pretty rough on the nozzle
@rlemon oh.
14:29
@Loktar yea I also read that, and the flexible filaments
and cause clogs idk, no personal experience just have read about it a bit since I want to get it as well
I would think that clogging the shit out of something is actually a good thing.
@OliverSalzburg it's a really great article, thoroughly researched with great supporting evidence. They actually start doing extra research on every flight and called everyone up. The investigation took a bunch of months.
you can get the flexible ones working pretty well apparently with the default setup, but yeah some people do have issues with them
you should get extras with your hictop though
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> almost 100 previously identified FBI and DHS planes, and 500 randomly selected aircraft.
14:30
I didn't get any 😬
@rlemon Also double-check your slicer is using the correct filament size before printing. Mine defaulted to the wrong size and the first print I had to cancel
@OliverSalzburg it's honestly almost on par with justsecurity.org as far as a good, well-informed article. Which to me is amazing
^ haha yea
lots of posts on that, people have it set to 3mm and it makes the prints look insane
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But the point is that lots of the random aircraft are spy planes lol. Oh well
@Jhoverit what do you mean?
14:31
> justsecurity.org refused to connect.
@OliverSalzburg my bad justsecurity.org
Not sure I've ever seen that site
I forgot www.
@OliverSalzburg that's so secure
@OliverSalzburg I found it the other day and was dumbfounded. It goes into extremely fine, explicit detail
14:32
wtf...
About national security laws, international law. The people writing the articles are extremely knowledgeable and often are experts on their topic
@KendallFrey yea, I'll have a bunch of questions once it gets here :D
it's hard because the videos seem to expect a good amount of knowledge before hand
I've been watching them, but they don't explain much
@Jhoverit that's how they trained the data set. They used identified spy planes against 500 random flights to say "these are spyplanes, these aren't"
just what to look for when your prints suck bad
@BenjaminGruenbaum pound it 🤜
user1596138
14:33
@Vap0r "these aren't" but some are
@rlemon The most fun is tweaking all the settings in Cura
I don't even know what Cura is
The slicer
turns STL into Gcode
I downloaded blender last night and spent 10 minutes before rage quitting
fuck blender
@bitten 🤜
14:34
blender is too complicated for what it does
the ui at least
it really is
the ui is super confusing
@rlemon Is this the first time using it?
GIMP has a better UI
the autodesk tools are so much better
user1596138
14:34
Blender, or Blendr?
I had a weird experience with it
@KendallFrey I tried once long ago, rage quit then too
@Jhoverit well you know, if you read the rest of the article you'll find out that it worked out pretty well for spy plane identification. But yeah, sure, we'll say they goofed for no reason other than prejudice
@MadaraUchiha I posted it in work slack, wrote NSFW and then realized what I did :D
Too bad they don't work on the one true operating system.
14:34
The first time I used it, I hated it. Years later, I tried it and it made sense.
@BenjaminGruenbaum :P
Trying to learn 3D modelling by just picking up a tool is like trying to learn programming by just opening Visual Studio
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@Vap0r If I didn't read it I wouldn't be commenting on the contents now would I
@rlemon you literally need to learn like 10 shortcuts and you won't use much
@rlemon check out fusion360 as well
14:35
@OliverSalzburg Not an entirely accurate analogy
@Jhoverit if you read it then I would think you'd bring up arguments against it that aren't refutable by referencing the exact same article
my only experience with 3d modelling outside of basic autocad shit from HS is maya back in like 2004
Use GUI much*
@MadaraUchiha I know and I don't care
It's good enough!
unless you plan on making organic things mostly, but fusion360 is pretty badass
user1596138
14:35
> we'll say they goofed for no reason other than prejudice
@Loktar will do
Give blender 2 days and fire up a tut, it will become very easy to use
user1596138
What are you even talking about dude lol. I just posted a quote. Quit smoking that shit lol
@Jhoverit an out of context quote. Then with "oh well". I forgot that you like not making a point but just reflecting a negative sentiment.
@KamilSolecki dunno, I did tutorials for blender, max, maya, and zbrush. Never really got the hang of zbrush, but max was really easy to pick up.
14:37
@rlemon I used something called Wings 3D a while ago, I remember it being much simpler than Blender
Wish we could all be like you
@Loktar @KendallFrey okay can one of you give me a super quick breakdown of what I will need to do to take a .stl file from thingiverse to actual printing
@Jhoverit You should really stop telling people to "quit smoking" or some such every time you disagree with what they say.
@KendallFrey oh man, that's like one of the oldest ones
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@Vap0r Imma jus give you a little Jhoverit timeout. Not sure what's up
14:37
@rlemon download Cura
@Vap0r dude, quit picking fights
Cool with me
user2620028
blender was a bastard
user1596138
@MadaraUchiha Culture.
grab a profile from the facebook group to start with
user1596138
14:37
That's a totally normal thing to say for me
in the files section
user2620028
3dsmax and maya atleast were somewhat understandable
@ssube Also that @Vap0r
@Jhoverit i.imgur.com/jnDi5h8.jpg really is it nsfw
should be a cura cr10 profile
user1596138
14:38
And it wasn't that I disagree... It was that he's making an argument out of nothing
@Loktar what is a 'profile' because I've heard good things about Uncle Jessy simple profile
user1596138
Don't feed it. I ignored him for now. No sense making that noise
idk if his is cura or not
@KamilSolecki tag your nsfw
wtf is that
I think his is simplify3d which I use
14:38
@KamilSolecki true dat, i did 3 weeds one time and starting yelling at my friends and almost became a drunk driver for ISIS. weed is evil
@rlemon Import it into Cura, tweak some settings depending on what kind of quality etc. you want, then either print over USB or export Gcode to a SD card and use that
@ssube a quality meme.
it's not actually nsfw :P
just scary
so if I already have a stl file, Cuda lets me slice it and set the proportions?
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@KamilSolecki I can't open it then lol
14:39
no need for a 3d modeling software?
what does the <Props> mean here? export default function selectable<Props>(key: string)
@Jhoverit oh fuck its private, ill reupload :P
user1596138
I opened on my phone that isn't nsfw lmao
user1596138
@KamilSolecki No I thoguht it was nsfw lol
14:39
@rlemon Cura 'preps' the STL model by slicing it and adding supports for anything that overhangs, it also allows you to put printer settings into the gcode file and send that to your printer for that particular print.
All I'm interested in are valid news articles. Ones that go into detail on things that are not normally publicized. When someone is critical of a news article, I don't question them because I'm looking for a fight. I question them because I don't want to be duped by articles that masquerade themselves as truth and that fooled me as such. @MadaraUchiha
@rlemon Right, 3D modeling is what you use to create the STL
@corvid looks like a generic, but that doesn't make much sense
@hilli_micha okay, makes sense.
is it used elsewhere in the function?
14:40
I made a joke earlier about how you'll be staring at Cura for a while, there are TONS of settings that you'll want to become farmilar with to make quality prints.
@rlemon be prepared to play with settings for a bit haha
@KendallFrey or tweak an existing design? where do I scale up or down the models? cuda?
@ssube yeah, it should be. Trying to add a property to a component (basically an HOC)
@Loktar Nice timing lol
@rlemon in cura
14:40
But if you read the Jhoverit quote I don't know how to interpret it as anything but critical of their methodologies, and I wanted to find out why. I'll admit I was unprofessional when I found out he was just complaining about it to complain, and didn't have any gripes persay @MadaraUchiha
you can set the %
@Loktar yea, I've come to get that from the fb group and youtube
@rlemon Cura handles the things like infill as well
@hilli_micha yeah I had no idea
!!afk buzzfeed is bad mmmk
14:41
@rlemon Cura lets you transform models, but to actually change the shape you'll want a 3D model editor
^ That too, you'll occasionally need to rotate/shift the model to actually fit on the bed the way you want.
So Cura can handle scaling and rotation
nice. okay. little bit less intimidating now
Ugh materialui checkbox doesnt wanna comply with me flexbox
@Loktar can't I just steal all of yours?
14:42
Don't know if that's feasible, you'll sometimes need to change settings on a per print basis depending on the object being printed.
@rlemon You'll still want to adjust stuff to your preference and per-print
@KendallFrey when you guys say slicing, I am picturing taking a big model and actually slicing it into smaller pieces.
@rlemon I'm in simplify3d
@Loktar I'm in whatever you use :D
that's what it does it slices it into layers
14:43
For example, some prints you want more strength, so you have denser infill and thicker shells
so the 3d printer can lay the layers
That's something Cura settings will do
@rlemon it's $150
so you gotta buy it first
ahh, so not like making the head and body separate things. slicing the model into rows
that makes a lot more sense
I thought it was like, breaking the model apart to smaller models.
@rlemon It creates a path for your printer head, and the printer prints one Z layer or "slice" at a time
14:44
man, the 3d printing verbiage is confusing at first.
Nou, I dont wantsa use your stupid label for the checkbox, mr material
yeah @rlemon I followed that group for 2 months before I got my printer lol
You can use programs that don't make slices but move the print head up and down in the path
just learning shit along the way
That makes spiderwebby designs
14:45
lol
I ordered my printer before I applied for the group
if you're going to jump in, who checks the water?
that's no fun :D
I just throw in the closest person who isn't me to check the water.
well, I have a lot of faith in @Loktar's recommendations
so if he says the printer is a good one, I trust him
shit don't let me down creality
user1596138
Haha
hictop*
user1596138
14:46
Now it's all on him
lol well for me it was good! and for a lot of others, but yeah the huge benefit is the facebook group
@Loktar How many printers do you have? My brother-in-law actually has a shop of 3D printers.
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@Loktar is the alien done
14:46
ANY issues people can solve on there
@hilli_micha just this one actually
but I did read first, the hictop and the creality should be exactly the same with a different brand sticker
That's a non-slice oriented way to print
@Jhoverit getting there just finished the left arm completely today
@Loktar He prints these things - projectfdl.com
just need to do the right arm and head
user1596138
14:47
Damn haha do you just leave it overnight? Or is it even longer than that
depends on the part, upper torso took 26 hours
my guess is like 20 hours for an arm?
I've had prints take close to a day
@hilli_micha damn nice
user1596138
Wow straight?
14:47
yea
user1596138
Figures, those are some bigass parts
yeah some people sprints (lol prints) take 50 hours lol
if I made the upper torso higher quality it would have been 50 hours
user1596138
Oh right and you took a break to print gabis mask it looked like
I watched the Morty print last night, dude said it took like 17 hours?
14:48
I have the printer in my office. The noise is like music for nerds.
@Jhoverit nah I printed that 2 months ago
user1596138
Was gonna say this thing is like a 6 day sculpture haha
can I trigger fetch() to be resolved with a specific value?
user1596138
Oh wtf
just never got around to painiting it
14:48
@Loktar Our sprints are 2 weeks, hot damn
then she springs the fact she has her Halloween party on me today, I'm like shit!
@KendallFrey haha
user1596138
Haha days away
last night she told me lol
her socks clash with her shirt
fashion 101 man
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I saw those on FB lol pretty sick
14:50
turned out alright, I would have liked to do a better job painting but that was an hour of painting maybe
@Loktar do you prime before you paint?
@rlemon yea
watched some videos on painting last night as well. primer makes a world of difference
14:50
I sanded that for like idk 3 or 4 hours total as well
yea, I'm happy I already own all of the sanding stuff :D
@SterlingArcher Ignore the troll
sand paper isn't cheap
Oh man sanding sucks..
14:51
@Loktar reaper?
I don't mind it. I make stuff from wood
@KendallFrey roger
so I'm okay with sanding
@Neoares yea
14:51
@rlemon sand is cheap depending on the grade
have a gun printed too I still need to paint, but she can't take that to school anyway
@SterlingArcher .....course
*coarse
LEMON WHY
because
that's why
14:52
@SterlingArcher of course
@Loktar you're asesome
you are my reference as a dad
I mean as a dad I'll be like you I hope
haha thanks
my kids seem to like me I guess
okay, so to recap, @KendallFrey @Loktar I need to install Cura and get a profile that works with Cura. do I need to do anything with the bed or tracks? other than assemble them
should I use the gluestick trick? or just use tape?
level the bed ^ which takes a bit of practice tbh
14:53
You'll want to level the bed
need to, rather
okay, just a float level? how accurate are we talking
oh, I bought mirrors from lowes as well, 12x12 mirrors
@Loktar for?
the bed?
@rlemon No, you level it wrt the print head
then I sanded one, I print on a mirror, the glass came bowed
14:54
@KendallFrey that makes more sense
just touch it to every corner?
Your printer should have instructions
instructions are crap
first hand experience is where it's at
Mine says a 0.1mm gap at each corner
this dude has a lot of good videos on the cr10
nice, thanks
14:55
I just adjust the bed until a piece of paper fits exactly
most people use the paper method. I bought a feeler gauge but the paper works better for me
I watched a few setup videos last night, but they were pretty much just unboxing and assembly
lol so much of it is really up to how you want to do things
IDK how the cr10 is, but watch out for a curved bed, where the corners can be right but the centre is too high or too low
@KendallFrey yeah the glass that came with mine was a pos
14:56
I recommend leveling with the bed preheated
it was bowed in the middle
so good idea to buy some more glass tonight?
super common issue
Mine is metal, not glass
@rlemon idk most people buy mirrors, they are cheap too, like $5 or $10
@KendallFrey I heat up my nozzle and bed when I level
14:57
mirror for a bed? kinda classy
@Loktar I'm not sure if you know this, but mirrors are made from glass. 😉
:P
@Loktar is your enclosed?
@rlemon And a little bit of silver, Judas.
@rlemon lol, well the mirrors are almost always straight from what I've encountered at least
nah no enclosure but I still just print pla really
@Loktar yea I'm just teasing.
a mirror would be very easy to see imperfections
gay mirrors are so inconvenient
14:58
probably a good idea
some people buy a pei sheet too
@KendallFrey especially when they are on the closet door
@Loktar no issues with the bed cooling to quickly?
I thought about it but idk
no, the bed takes a bit to heat up actually
it stays heated the entire time
Oh yeah, stuff sticking to the bed, I don't know how other printers are, but the A8 is pretty bad about it
14:59
well I keep mine heated to 65c
I wonder if PEI is what mine has
it sucks :P
once it cools off to 30, the prints slide right off
kk, I was browing the fb group and the common problem I saw with the tugboat was bed too cool causing lifting

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