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12:00
@Traitor terrible advice
No, happiness doesn't depend on your goals, people don't understand that
you learn things with comms
@BenjaminGruenbaum That seems to be a trend
@Traitor are you saying if you have comm skills, you can learn networking skills?
wtf?
You can just choose to be happy, how you experience the world is up to you.
If you try to pursue happiness it won't work - you need to learn to live with yourself as a person and to work on yourself.
12:00
@JasonMarsh he's basically talking bullshit right now
These things don't just happen.
@JasonMarsh here's an example: instead of reading a 1000 page networking book, ask your peers for specific things that will make you catch up to them
will communication skills help you out in a job in general? of course. But it doesn't have a direct connection to the field you're working in
Your problem is not technical, if you want to die I hope you realize that.
like "what stuff is relevant to this job?"
12:01
not accepting a job because you lack the communication skills is completely retarded advice
@KendallFrey @Loktar Amazon says guaranteed delivery tomorrow... Item hasn't shipped yet. :(
"what books talk about the work we're doing?"
sitting around at home won't better your communication skills
@rlemon Fucking hate that feeling
The first thing you need to do is to learn to function as a human being, to live in a way that you're content with and to be OK with yourself.
12:01
ok, I'm not the best communication person. I'm more of a developer who wants to listen to metal and code good stuff. I can speak and report (Write) about my work in working environment. I can attend staff meetings for employee relationships
Have you guys seen the Amazon Key thing? Unlocks your door when an amazon delivery arrives so they can put it in your house
isn't that all about "comm"
@Traitor It sounds like you can build a nuke using "comm"
comm is getting things for yourself and the team, like negotiating/compromising
it's very important
@Cereal I heard about it in a tweet wondering how soon law enforcement will take advantage of it
@JasonMarsh that's fine. Just try to be open and engange conversations with your peers
12:02
yea
Communication gets so much easier when you start listening to people, and if you want to die and nothing tragic and external happened to you you probably should start by thinking with yourself.
dont work alone
and try to figure out when it is a good time to talk, and when not
@KendallFrey I was wondering how many people would lose their pets
and you've come a long way already
12:03
@Traitor Maybe you should work on it, then.
Go see a professional, if that bothers you (it shouldn't) you should try meditation.
yeah but you sounds like a person who is good at passing blames to others with your "comm"
@KendallFrey what are u talking about?
@Traitor you
@Cereal Seems ludicrous, but I can see people use it
12:03
I warmly recommend a professional, there is nothing negative about being responsible and taking your life back.
@JasonMarsh example?
there you go, "comm"
idc im telling you how life works
how managers/supervisers think
yeah, true
@Traitor you're not doing the best job at that though
12:05
idc
take it as an insult or advice idc
time is money
I agree with @Traitor at some degree but I'd imagine companies like what @Traitor is describing has pretty toxic management
now, as for improving ur skills, i'd recomment downloading books that deal with business comms
look at youtube vids
what does any of this have to do with serial communication?
subjects of 'how to network (social), how to negotiate/ how do supervisors do their jobs'
practice in real life by forming teams, manage teams
study networking
I recommend the book by Tanenbaum
12:07
well, I think no matter how good your "comm" is, when there is a economic depression that directly affects IT industry then you will be fired or let go
you can't avoid that with comm
unless you "commed" your CEO
with comm you can probably keep ur job
and with comm you can find one faster after they let u go
You talk like "comm" is the magic bullet that can get you anything you want
!!google comm
...the typo was better
I think you can easily join a new company if you've focused on building ur portfolio with new techs and good coding profile
12:09
read 'The Prince' by Niccolo Machiavelli
the magic mullet, haha
that's also a good read
@KendallFrey it is for me, but only with rs232
and once economic depression hits, all of us will be fired... your comm cannot save u
12:10
@rlemon good shit, that
you know what, I believe that this might just work
lol
i like the pic
@GNi33 Bill Bailey as a teen
@JasonMarsh that's another subject tho
I wish I could comm my wife too
12:11
what is comm?
communications
It means communications according to @Traitor
im too lazy to type communications every time
the say comms
12:13
lol
@Abhi it's worth trying to call them up at least
@Traitor Hey, what would you do if you are a senior developer but your coding skill sucks. Then junior developer joined and he is surprisingly better than you. You need to make sure managers know that you are much better at coding than this guy, how would you handle this situation?
@towc we're so past that convo
@Traitor no you're not
That's not how life works at all
@Traitor He's not
12:14
@JasonMarsh why are you listening to the one person who is not professionally accomplished in the whole room?
@JasonMarsh comm with the new guy and catch up to him
Almost everyone else here is
'hey you got a minute? show me ur skills, strengths/weaknesses'
@BenjaminGruenbaum hello
Hello, am I wrong?
12:15
This room exactly shows how sidelining works
Really though, if you're a senior developer at a company, and a new guy joins, you're going to have oodles more experience than him, regardless of his programming ability
but.. if you cant do that, your other skills can keep the senior developers job
@Abhi in the end it's your choice. If you don't want to lose this feeling of anger and pain, live with it for a day or two, then see what happens
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
it varies and depends
12:16
!!s/am.*/is it me you're looking for?/ 39761706
@rlemon Hello, is it me you're looking for? (source)
@BenjaminGruenbaum what are u talking about?
@KamilSolecki nudge when we talk fun stuff
Can you comm your CEO and get some free company equity ?
why not?
it's not impossible
12:17
when did comm become a verb?
@JasonMarsh honestly, listen to what Benjamin has to say
im not giving him coding advice though
I'd take his advice on tech jobs over most people any day
he's the greatester
I'd take any regular here's advice
12:18
@OliverSalzburg usually has good advice too
Well except towc
<3
He'd just start chirping "vue, vue, vue"
I think it would go something like

Traitor: Yo yo.. boss, what are you listening?
Boss: Some songs
Traitor: give me head phones, let's listen together
(starts to dance togehter)
Traitor: Can you give me some equity for fun?
Boss: yeah man
Like the seagulls from finding nemo
12:19
in my defense: vue, vue, vue
better than not trying
boss: 'you know, not many employees have the balls to talk to me like this'
i like this guys confidence'
Traitor lives in a tv show apparently
Traitor: whose balls?
not even a tv show
Anime
12:20
that's straight to youtube
do i have to live up to your expectations? idc what you think lol
maybe if you commed me you would
im talking to Jason
great way to lose the job
!!s/job/game/
12:21
I know a lot about losing jobs, I'd listen to me
@rlemon great way to lose the game (source)
@jAndy
Raised in 4chan: A heartwarming story of a tumblr war veteran
I have friends that have lost more jobs than you can imagine, @towc
in fact, i fired him once.
lol
12:21
lol
man, the room filled up quite fast
by "lost," he might just mean "can't find"
ouch
!!s/losing (.*),/balls/
@littlepootis I know a lot about balls I'd listen to me joke (source)
12:22
fuck
cap utilised pirate speech
arr
arrrrrlemon
you mean northern britain speech?
to summarize, be learning network engineering and comms, push yourself/challenge yourself, take the job
@JasonMarsh
12:23
I think the Caribbean had more popular pirates
and pretend to be a female online, so people help you out more
like @CapricaSix
@towc i love uuuu
he actually does
@towc You've been pretending to be a woman this whole time!?
12:24
@Neoares Zirak programmed me with lady bits
I love the sound of skulls crushing :)
me tooo
@CapricaSix oh nice
listen, bro, I'm already taken
LMAO
12:25
LOL
no ur not
I mean, noone took me, but I'm taken
you're most likely to be taken by centaurs in the middle of the night
:grabs popcorn:
> I'm taken, she has my email address!
what are you talking about? towc is our resident comms master
12:26
@KendallFrey so apparently you can crash into the mun hard enough to make water i.gyazo.com/95dec6cbb873204c812da0c69c7aa392.jpg
not that one :P
ffs room
u guys like 'comms' :3
glad i helped
gosh, we need to give them nicknames
> I'm taken, but she doesn't know it yet!
That one?
Slovak girl is reserved
I suggest the new one be Slovak girl the second
12:27
seriously tho, wtf is 'comms' ? if you mean communication skill you're using the term wildly inappropriately. because all I'm reading is 'serial port'
Slovak girl Taxi Edition
Is this the same slovak girl from before, or does towc just keep running into people from slovakia
@rlemon comm sensor = communication sensor
12:28
!!s/l T/l Fake T/
@Cereal A new one
@BenFortune Slovak girl Fake Taxi Edition (source)
2
sensor goes out on both sides
@Cereal he lives there
comm = communication
12:28
He lives in Slovakia, so I'd guess he runs into people from there from time to time
I thought he was in italy
Why does he refer to girls of his own nationality as slovak lol
the one I came here for and I'm still very much looking forward to spending my life with will be called "slovak girl", the second one that I met once and I'm really not interested in having a relationship with but is currently holding my passport is "email girl". Ok?
@BenFortune towc would be the one to ride a bang taxi and not get any
"Ran into a cute canadian girl today"
@ssube LOL
12:28
@BenFortune you took my passport, now I'll take your dignity
@Cereal he is Italina, moved there
whatabout me?
@towc oh god
s/dig/virgi/
Towc's timeline is so hard to follow
12:29
> I'm still very much looking forward to spending my life with
most basic cable sitcoms are hard to follow
> doesn't know he exists
both of my hands
This is the best rom com
as friends or partners or anything
12:29
screw the c# room
oh god
no you didnt
the party is HERE
@rlemon *romanian
okay, I gotta get back to work. If I'm already working on my day off I should at least get something done
12:30
'working on my day off'
I hate it when work comes home with me involuntarily
@towc okay, so you're just as bad as someone pretending to be someone else online 😉
@KendallFrey seriously, killin me
It's 4:30, but I haven't solved this problem yet
well, if I'm of any nationality, it's not italian
12:31
And suddenly my girlfriend's mad at me for working all night
my F5 key is wearing out
I'm ok with saying I don't self-identify as being of any nationality
@rlemon noice
@towc no, you were born in Italy. you can deny it all you want, but that's how the world works
12:31
@towc Where were you born
arguing it makes you seem racist
just sayin'
@rlemon Don't forget to print some spare parts when you get it
:P
@BenFortune I got Kendall for that
Print a bigger 3d printer!
12:32
well, it's no secret I'm really disgusted by italian culture and want to keep as far away from it as possible
@towc too bad
can i upload new pics of the girl i impersonated?
@rlemon
@towc But... pizza
don't think that makes me racist. If so, too bad
12:32
@Traitor she was unimpressed that you impersonated her
im too lazy to impress
i dont have the time
@Traitor here's the thing. If you ever use a picture of her or any other girl as avatar again, I'll kick on sight
@Traitor Madara already told you what he thinks about it.
@Traitor then don't creep, either
i said upload
not impersonate, jeez
12:33
@BenFortune wrong ping
@GNi33 you probably should anyway
Especially since we have it in writing that she doesn't like it
@Traitor well, be just non-lazy enough to conform to the room rules
thanks
@towc ty
i know
12:33
I know. I'm not the kick happy kind, but at some point...
? i asked a question
I missed something there, who'd he harass
that's what questions are for
and I answered. you'll be kicked
@GNi33 Are you a kick virgin
12:34
no
giggles
despite what some people think, there is such a thing as a stupid question.
Oh, thought you were about to pop your cherry
idc had to ask anyways
but let's say I'm.... very unexperienced
12:34
Adorbs
@Traitor you didn't have to ask
that's what comms are for
@Traitor except you really didn't
in fact, you knew the answer
@Traitor Careful, I told you that you're not to be creepy about it.
12:34
that's what makes it a stupid question
You're dangerously close to that threshold.
@MadaraUchiha I think the line is already crossed
same
ah ur right, do what u have to
12:35
@rlemon :/
@KamilSolecki You still making your own?
security check for keycaps?!
Guys, could you give me some more career advice? you've said the network company role sounds like they are desparate (high salary)
are you still trying to get keys?
12:35
what?!!?
what does that normally indicate?
@rlemon they order batches
@JasonMarsh Traitor said that
scroll up and only read what i said
It indicates they are desperate. :)
12:36
of what?
@ssube man it's been years since I listened to JUSTICE
they age well
take the job, learn what you need to before it's required, do comms to catch up and survive/adapt
@JasonMarsh to hire someone
@rlemon they have
@BenFortune aye. most parts are in that shipment tho. I am almost finished with the PCB design, still have to wrap my head around the case
12:38
@KamilSolecki custom tower?
u do PCB? man
that's ledgit
@rlemon what do you mean by tower?
i tried doing it once, then i never looked at it again
@KamilSolecki okay I'll back up
Whatcha makin
keyboard
12:39
Ohh. Boring
you're boring :(
Its gonna be wood and coppah
Less boring
i knew it :D
12:40
@KamilSolecki why?
oh okay
he's single
aren't we all?
^
not u towc
12:41
@traitor I'll spend slightly more than I'd on a mech keyboard + keycaps, but will have so much more fun in the process.
I'm single, but taken
I'm married to the corn
I almost bought a ton of candy corn at bulk barn yesterday
I don't know how I resisted
I shouldn't be allowed in bulk barn
candy corn is the most disgusting thing ever created
it's the only corn I dislike
12:43
That reminds me of the time when I acidentally purchased 35$ worth of pistaccios
Wow, how does it feel to be wrong about liking candy corn
@KamilSolecki accidentally? dude. we get a $39.99 bag from costco every month :P
@Cereal what?
it's yuge
@Cereal you tell me :)
@KamilSolecki was it worth it?
12:44
>:(
I'm getting constantly amazed by recruiters
they literally reply back or send me invite to meetings at 2am
I've never had candy corn
recuriters want you to know everything, every language, and 10+ years of experience
that's the HR department right there
@rlemon I love them to the bits, but I never realized how pricey they are :D
12:45
@rlemon candy corn is yummy
@KamilSolecki good thing you can only eat two handfuls before your mouth is dead
I should get a 3d printer
I've never had candy corn either
I think
good
unless caramel popcorn counts
12:46
@KamilSolecki completely different
ohh man, double caramel from kernels.
kill me now
candy corn is kinda like clay made of sugar
I hate caramel corn
caramel+cheddar popcorn is life
I made mac and cheese the other day and it had 750g of cheese in it. And it was gluten free, so the amount of noodles was like 20% less than it should have been
I basically made melted cheese sauce, with a side of noodles
12:49
lol
when my brother and I were kids we'd add 2-3 large globs of cheese wiz to our KD
extra cheesy
Stupid buggy materialui datepicker
doesn't inherit colors
Cheese whiz is my weakness
I hadn't had cheese whiz between the ages of like 14 and 23
I can't stomach the stuff now, but when I was a kid I loved it
But my girlfriend's mom brought it up the other month and I've been reintroduced
12:50
get a hold of this tweet 0.o
t e s t e s t e s t e s t e s t e s t e s t e s t e s t e s t e s t e s t e s t e s t e s t e s t e s t e s t e s t e s t e s t e s t e s t
It's actually cheese, which is surprising. I looked at the ingredients
(open it up in twitter)
Just a bunch of cheese
@towc we get it, you love Eastern Standard Time
you don't need to tweet about it
@towc is that you and your girlfriend in your twitter pic?
12:51
I wonder how many more new lines you can get in
@towc Thanks for reminding me why I don't follow you
@Cereal BUUUURN!
@Cereal precisely
so, you can put 2 \n after every character, and they'll be displayed
that means 93 lines, roughly (the tweet gets trimmed)
I prefer the old lines

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