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user1596138
6:00 PM
    // this is some test key taken from the OpenWeatherMap site
    // it'll work, probably. but replace it with your own, m'kay?
    weatherKey: '87e23319ada780cc979f04d40fe80834'
 
user1596138
Zirak's codez
 
@rlemon if they don't, you probably should do that yourself
the bot's memory isn't it github either, is it?
 
user1596138
It's a weather API key lmao not really too concerned.
 
Cap's an extension, right? can she read env vars or anything?
 
@ssube it's in the gist
which is unlisted, but public
 
6:00 PM
I put all my api gets in a .env file, idk how that works for extensions though
 
ah, right
@Cereal browsers don't pass on env, I don't think
 
@Cereal caps a bookmarklet
well, not really. but used to be
 
That's quite the bookmarklet
 
now she's an extension that just loads master.js directly from github
 
user1596138
lol @rlemon I found another pub key posted
 
user1596138
6:02 PM
It's just on some kids GH tho...
 
There's a ton of api keys on github
 
enough that they've added server-side hooks to reject new ones
(for ones they can easily detect)
 
user1596138
Ours is already in there but it was some supposed "test" key
 
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I assume it was actually ripped from some gist tho
 
user1596138
Haha the one we have is littered throughout SO posts and Wordpress help sites
 
6:04 PM
@KendallFrey without google images. what's wrong here:
 
no tesla docked to it?
 
not enough struts
 
too small
 
@patrick Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
hint?
 
6:04 PM
the problem is in the paint job
 
the flag
 
ohh. lots of things, then
 
it bugged me on the first actual launch of the falcon heavy.
 
user1596138
What, the black at the bottom?
 
i thought the grid fins were white.
 
6:05 PM
the middle core stablizers were not black on the first lauch. they are in the model.
@Luggage bingo
but only the middle core.
 
@user1596138 I wonder why it doesn't work anymore :thinking:
 
oh
 
user1596138
Oh
 
just the middle one?
 
user1596138
I meant differernt black
 
user1596138
6:06 PM
@Cereal You tell us, everyone else in the room looked into it and saw the same thing so not sure why I spent the 5min to do it :shrug:
 
that bugged me during the launch. now it bugs me the model isn't that.
 
I thought the spacex logo was weird
 
how much would you have been bothered if it wasn't symmetrical, at least?
 
@Luggage 11
 
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user1596138
6:07 PM
@rlemon I was looking at these
 
ahhhh
 
the landing legs
 
user1596138
They're black in marketing material
 
@rlemon Then how do you feel about a triple booster setup with no core/payload?
 
user1596138
6:08 PM
Yea not at launch
 
after landing, you can see the shape of the legs in the soot
 
@KendallFrey what do you mean?
 
lol
 
blackened by soot
 
6:09 PM
I've considered trying to make a single side booster in KSP
 
@Luggage lol, that's neat
 
@Luggage damn, I would expect the line to be more blurry
 
oooooo
 
what's the gap between the landing pad and the merlin engines with the landing gear down?
these pictures always make them seem so small. but like a person could walk under that without ducking yea?
 
enough to fit some hot dogs or marshmallows
 
6:12 PM
ohhhh yea
 
now how tall is that guy
 
on a scale of 1 to sterling
or was ssube the giant?
 
@KendallFrey what a failure, you're not supposed to finish
 
@KendallFrey 11.9mm
 
that's safely taller than either of us :P
I think I have an inch or two on sterling
 
6:15 PM
that guy needs to duck to get under the engines
 
he's really not that tall
 
@rlemon that's a handy device
 
now measure a banana the same way
 
6:15 PM
tis' indeed
 
also I think I have that same caliper :P
 
@Zirak no this is
 
@Zirak he uses it to see if the pills are working
 
@ssube I think rlemon stole yours
 
most of the cheap ones all look the same
 
6:16 PM
@KendallFrey but that's not a picture of your mom
 
that sounds like way more effort than buying another one from banggood
 
@Zirak no it's a picture of my wife
 
@Luggage yea I have a couple. both were <$15
 
@Luggage same with cheap webcams
 
they look almost identical
different brands tho
 
6:17 PM
the printer-cam I have can be found under a dozen brand names from $2-4
 
but back to the engines.
if I had to guess, I'd say like 5ft from the ground
 
do those legs exist in in KSP, yet?
 
with mods
the SpaceY mods have it all iirc
@KendallFrey ohh (if it doesn't already exist) I can't wait till SpaceY modpack comes with a BFR capsule :P
 
@KendallFrey Idea: JS to kOS babel extension.
or just change it to use JS
or LUA?
 
and with BFR in mind, I love the capsules in Surviving Mars.
they're so sexy
 
6:22 PM
the rockets in Surviving Mars remind me of a BFR 'front end'.
yea.
but with some hints from the shuttle orbiter, too
the heat tiles and such
 
I subbed to the reddit page and seeing people with 4-500 sol bases makes me wanna restart again
getting better design ideas :P
 
I waited until like sol 45 to get people this game. layour still sucks, but better
it'll never be great, since the resources are in random spots
 
and you discover some resources after getting your base started
like.. right next to you.. fuck. and you have to wait to research building destruction
 
meh, embrace the organic layout.
but extra space between everything. my first ones were too compact
 
I still haven't figured out how to manage the colonies better. how to manually transfer people to new pods and such
or even if you can.
 
6:25 PM
transporting supplies is a problem.
 
o/
 
my one pod has a bunch of people I need in another pod, and I can't seem to figure out a way to get them to move over
er, s/pod/dome/
 
you can tranfer them with shuttles.
 
@Luggage manually?
 
6:26 PM
but i never have. i don't have them unlocked
 
I didn't see it, but it was late at night.
 
I don't know.
 
the shuttles were rocking resources like a boss tho
(moving them around the map)
 
do they distribute resources?
 
yea
but they didn't take people.
 
6:26 PM
like, i need repair supplies to go all over the place, and doing it manually sucks
 
I think tunnels are for people too, but I don't understand them either.
 
i know tunnel;s support drones. not sure about people
also ssube said you can build both sides from the entrance. that's handy if you have an inaccessible place
 
right now how I populate domes is just to land a new set of colonists near it. but it'd be nice to better balance out the populations
or move all the kids to the one with an actual nursery
 
yea. pretty sure you can, but don't know how
 
right now people are pissed, but the other dome has everything they need :P
 
6:28 PM
yeah, tunnels are a bit weird
once you place one and connect pipes, they're nice
 
do they all connect? or in pairs?
 
@ssube so are they like underground belts in factorio?
 
I think pairs, but I only have one
my people seem to prefer shuttles still
 
ok, you can help lemon. He can't get his people to migrate around
 
robots drive through if you right-click the tunnel, not sure how the pathfinding works otherwise
 
6:29 PM
I assumed they were like underground belts in Factorio, but when I went to place the second one it didn't give me any connecting visuals. might have been too far away tho
(also the first one didn't complete building, was just a ghost part)
maybe that was the issue? I really don't understand the tunnels.
 
there's no visual, but it will tell you when it's too far away
 
so far my only real beef with the game is the snap zooming out
i.e. you zoom out, then plateau, then jump to the area screen
I'd love more zoom out abilities, and a gradual transition to that.
 
yea. I can live with it as-is, but i see that
 
I wish there were 2 or 3 more zoom-out levels
 
Can you examine the css variables in element.style ?
I want to change one dynamically
 
6:32 PM
there's a strategy game with the smooth-zoom-out (maybe one of the SupCom games?)
 
its used in a css calc
 
@SuperUberDuper element.style doesn't own the var tho
the sheet will, and sheets are read only
 
supreme commander does smoothly zoom out to a map-like view
 
yeah but I tried style.setProperty('--width' but it doesn't change the transition:
 
user9107868
Something happened.
 
6:34 PM
I enjoyed the scale it allowed, managing hundreds of units from an over view
 
Wes
@Loktar i just hope they start to develop characters a bit more. the ones we were used about are all dead, and the new are basically strangers
 
left: calc(50% - (var(--width) ));
 
and then something else happened. then humans!
 
@SuperUberDuper because --width should be owned in ::root for the sheet
 
user9107868
@Luggage no seriously.
 
6:34 PM
not the element itself. you're calling it there.
 
user9107868
My name is in italics.
 
congrats.
 
user style sheets are fun arn't they
 
user9107868
@rlemon No I can kick.
 
do it
 
6:35 PM
go for it then
 
so how do I change the root?
 
@Wes yea
 
@SuperUberDuper don't think you can in a nice interface
 
user9107868
 
    document.documentElement.style.setProperty(`--${this.id}`, this.value + suffix);
 
6:35 PM
yeah I wish they'd kill off one or 2 more high profile characters
 
I can make screenshots, too. kick him
 
@TheOneWhoMade cool. try it
in fact, kick anyone. doesn't matter who
you only have power in these rooms here ^
 
user9107868
Image blocked. (WHY)
 
Wes
@Loktar ? :B they killed too many
 
 
6:37 PM
@Wes nah man I mean some more OG characters
 
@SuperUberDuper your best bet (if there is no interface) would probably be to parse the stylesheet and replace the entire contents in an inline <style>
 
it's getting a little insane the stuff some have survived
 
except Rosita, never kill Rosita
<3
 
Wes
og?
 
user9107868
6:37 PM
An error occured while trying to kick this user.
 
@Luggage think of the chiiiilllddreeeennn
 
Wes
rosita is so bland, she's hot but bland
 
@Zirak the court told me not to do that anymore
 
I think I spelled that wrong
 
6:38 PM
@Zirak he was
 
yeah as a character I agree @Wes
 
go on then
 
Original characters I mean
 
user9107868
Wes chat.
 
oh yeah, so Mars has already gotten weird, @rlemon @Luggage
 
6:39 PM
@SuperUberDuper hrm, ignore me. I just read the mdn, and I think I was taking the example a little too literally.
 
got homeless party saints popping up
 
(I've never used css vars, scss for lyfe)
 
it's not exactly rimworld, though
 
@SuperUberDuper lemmy see if I can figure something out. but I'm almost positive you can't do this with external sheets. only inline <style> tag 'sheets'
 
6:40 PM
css vars are pretty handy though
 
if this colony goes full Rimworld, I've done something horribly wrong :P
 
@Ikari sure, but when you're already knee deep with sass, there really isn't a point
 
@SterlingArcher woah why you gotta target me?!
 
s/sa/a/
 
Because I love you :D
 
6:41 PM
fair enough
 
that's profiling
 
lol
 
Plus you're the only one who will let me touch their hammer ;)
 
@SterlingArcher you never ask to play with mine!
 
Because you never respond to me when I call you ssubert and I'm very upset about that
wait you have gold JS?
nice
 
6:44 PM
@ssube You might know: I want to create "fake" wifi. I don't have a wifi card, but I want a vm (or even myself) to think it's connected to the network via wifi. Any virtualisation/user-mode stack/whatever will be accepted. Do you know of a way?
 
I've been trained to mostly-ignore all the weird twists on my last name over the years
 
you sicken me
 
I read that virtualbox doesn't support wifi at all, vmware is shoddy and can't virtualise wifi, and that maaaaaybe qemu supports creating random PCIe interfaces but nothing about how well it works
 
@Zirak he does not know de wey
 
Immediately after hitting enter I knew someone will say that
spits on @SterlingArcher
 
6:45 PM
@Zirak hm. I don't do a lot with wifi, but if you make the interface, I bet you could bridge it with a real one
 
yasssss
 
@ssube There's no real one
 
tbh I'm not sure the difference between a normal NIC and a wifi one besides the supplicant stuff
 
I don't have a wifi card at any point
 
not necessarily wifi, just the real NIC
 
6:46 PM
Someone has to implement the protocol, that's usually the NIC, right?
 
user1596138
@Zirak you want wifi, not network connectivity through the host?
 
I know of usermode ethernet, not usermode wifi
 
he wants a vm guest to think it has a wifi card
 
user1596138
You can use a second adapter.
 
@user1596138 I want my vm to think it's connected through wifi
 
6:46 PM
there has to be a real NIC somewhere, all the other interfaces I deal with are bridges to that
 
user1596138
If you have a USB wifi card you can use it with the guest. Idk about anything else tho
 
Be it host-only, NAT, bridge, whatever
 
so I assume you can flag an interface as wifi and bridge it, but idk
 
But then who'll implement the 802.11?
 
what's special about a wifi interface to the system?
 
user1596138
6:47 PM
Just completely disable the network adapters in virtual box
 
user1596138
Then use a device itself instead of a fake connection to the parent
 
@user1596138 No real wifi at any point is available
Anywhere
 
@SuperUberDuper how about a SuperUberDuper hacky solution?
 
user1596138
Seems you put yourself in a corner then
 
sounds like he wants the chrome debugger's "this is a flakey mobile connection" feature
 
6:48 PM
so you need it to see a fake SSID and connect and all?
 
user1596138
Why not pick up a cheap adapter?
 
which is definitely possible, I've seen tools that can do it
no idea how they work, though
 
@user1596138 That's part of the beauty :D
 
he loves corners
 
user1596138
Where's the fruit in this? lol
 
6:49 PM
@Zirak so, I know there are linuxy network testing tools that let you mock interfaces, have you looked at any of them?
I don't know exactly where they get involved, if it's a userspace interface or what, but they can add packet loss and the like
 
@ssube I have something which behaves differently under wifi, and it's either figure out how to make it stop or make it think it has wifi. Buying wifi is, unfortunately, not an option
 
thx @rlemon
 
@Zirak I'm curious how it changes behavior, never seen that
 
@ssube hrm? any specific ones you know of? I know you can tun/tap but that's still ethernet
@ssube So am I, that's why I need to investigate
 
ln -s /dev/wifi0 /dev/wired0
 
6:51 PM
btw, @rlemon something like document.querySelector('div').setAttribute('style', '--color: blue') works as well
 
I'm thinking stackoverflow.com/questions/614795/… or something like it, but I don't have any specifics
 
don't let me near your box.
 
(though it's bit rigid)
 
hmm this doesn't work window.document.documentElement.style.setProperty('--width', fixedDimensions.width + 'px')
 
@Ikari does that override the variable, or create a new local one with the same name?
 
6:51 PM
really not sure how you would go about that, I don't mess with wifi enough :(
 
it overrides it for the element you are setting it to and the children nodes
 
@ssube cool, thanks
 
yea, he wanted to change the variable itself. I tried to satisfy that.
 
oh :P
 
yours would probably work, I was just answering the question literally.
 
6:52 PM
Looks like it leverages netem to simulate network conditions. Not what I'm after, but still cool for a rainy day
what happens if I copy-paste /usr/include/net/802.11.or.whatever.c and compile
if only it were that simple
 
fuckin weeb
 
the eyes are vastly improved
 
Reminds me of old cartoons
 
she doesn't look like a steroid freak now.
 
6:56 PM
the hair feels so, in my face
 
:D I spent ~hour for the eyes
 
it's not bad, it just feels like an awkward zoom level
 
(ftr, steroids can make the whites of your eyes turn blue)
 
cool
 
6:56 PM
yeah, the hairs are kinda bad, will try to improve them in my next sketch
 
are you drawing these then scanning them? or drawing pad on the pc?
 
the former
 
@Ikari draw him next
 
draw your fake daughter
 
6:59 PM
you mean Rei? :P
 
^ that movie was the first anime movie I ever saw, and there was no awkward sexy stuff in it.
 
@rlemon isn't a cute girl. denied.
 
I implied Rei, you said it
 
great movie
 

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