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12:00 AM
can you get cheap beef?
like <$8/kg
 
Prolly slightly more expensive. How much (of weight) would you reccomend for a single batch?
 
depends on how many racks you got
we just had a sale on beef, so I got sirloin roasts for $8.80/kg
which is cheap enough for jerky.
 
Do they need to be special in any kind, or just a regular wire grid on a stand?
 
I use cookie racks.
the shit you buy in walmart to cool you baked goods
 
Yeah, then I probably could scavenge around 3-5
 
12:04 AM
beef (or pork), some racks (whatever), a fan, brown sugar, worcestershire sauce, soy sauce (don't skimp, get the good shit) and whatever other spices/seasoning you want
I put some pepper and garlic powder and some crushed red peppers in mine
about 1:1.5 soy:brown sugar to start in a bowl, then add about 1/8th of that in worcestershire
spice as you see fit
 
Greetings. How did this conversation become about meat?
 
@SamyBencherif Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Pleasedon't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
Oh, so you make it from a roast? I always assumed it was raw, dunno why.
 
soak your thin slices of meat in that over night
@KamilSolecki it is, I use a 'roast' cut
it's easier to slice into thin slices.
half freeze it first
it's not cooked, it's cured in a salt bath, then air dried.
^ after soaking for at least a day
 
Okay, thanks for directions. I might wanna try doing that in the close future
 
12:06 AM
after a couple hours under the fan
you need to keep it under the fan for a while.. like a half day
put it under the fan, go to bed, by the time you get off work the next day it's done
 
Mmm, looks tasty.
 
@KamilSolecki if you do, ping me. there's a youtube video I watched that basically directed me on how to make it.
I can find it and send it to you
 
@rlemon Sure, thanks ;) You see, the only jerky I had, was the one you can buy in petrol stations. So I have no idea how the real goodies actually taste like
 
it's a lot less dogfood tasting
and it smells a lot better
 
Or was it costco, I can't remember. Still, same thing.
 
12:09 AM
if you can get to a farmers market and can get home made jerky there, you can get an idea
 
I believe they don't do that round here at all
 
have you tried biltong?
it's south african jerky
 
you'd be surprised. jerky turns a shitty cut into $$
you're basically destroying the meat in the process :D
taking away all natural flavours
 
@hsimah neither.
 
I like it better than jerky. It's sorta more moist, dried differently. Same sort of thing though.
my friend's mum is an afrikaner and makes it
 
12:11 AM
@hsimah we call those 'meat sticks' here
I have an extruder that makes them.
haven't made them
but I've had them from the store. I don't mind them
 
i dont think it's extruded, just sliced
Biltong is a form of dried, cured meat that originated in South Africa, Zimbabwe and Namibia. Various types of meat are used to produce it, ranging from beef and game meats to fillets of meat cut into strips following the grain of the muscle, or flat pieces sliced across the grain. It is related to beef jerky in that they are both spiced, dried meats, however the typical ingredients, taste and production processes differ; in particular the main difference is that Biltong is typically much less sweet than jerky. The word biltong is from the Dutch bil ("rump") and tong ("strip" or "tongue"). ��2...
 
my bad, the thumbnail looked like extruded meat sticks
 
Yup, seems like cut
 
^ after you open and see the large picture :D
 
12:13 AM
I don't think the old school native Africans had meat extruding technology
lol
 
you wouldn't need it, you'd just need to mash it and form it by hand
we're lazy, we use extruders :D
 
One thing native to Poland that is smoked and I would not be able to live without is Oscypek:
 
one thing I love about rimworld is that they include pemmican
natives (what I am) made this shit all the time back in the day
 
It's smoked cheese, an acquired taste, but god it's delicious.
 
where're the pemmicans from
 
12:17 AM
It says Canada
 
@KamilSolecki I have a good history with polish cuisine, and it's mostly all delicious
@hsimah aboriginal canadians.
 
pemmican is the preserved food, not a tribe.
i think?
 
ah
 
Have you tried that cheese though?
 
@Luggage correct.
@KamilSolecki probably.
 
12:17 AM
Lucky you.
 
I was with a polish girl whose parents were off the boat. learned quite a bit of spoken polish in that time. ate a LOT of polish food.
 
Quality experiences.
 
for a time. she was crazy
like legit crazy
her entire family was
 
meat discussion relevant to my interests, however I have a js conundrum :)
 
12:20 AM
@KevinCollins bring it on :)
 
:38339423 more like the kardashians
they were all up into the drama
 
trying to see google autocomplete requests and wondering why chrome dev tools not showing them?
 
seemed to seek it out
 
could have sworn previously i could see the search suggestion http requests in dev tools network tab, but wondering now if chrome is hiding them
anybody want to verify whether you can see google's autocomplete http requests with chrome dev tool?
 
autocomplete from where?
 
12:27 AM
i've never seen that generate a request
 
from the actual google.ca search I can capture the request, from the tab homepage w/e it's called it uses the address bar
which doesn't result in anything for you
and I wouldn't expect it too either.
 
sorry, i just mean when you start to type a search on google, it makes xhr requests for similar queries to what you type and shows the results in a drop down
for some reason those requests aren't showing in the network tab in chrome dev tools
 
Just made some dope buffalo chicken :D
 
:D MEAT
 
Guys can anyone help me to create dos and dont's for computer (users edition)
 
12:33 AM
@KevinCollins they are, depending on where you're doing this from
there are a bunch of 'google searches' you can do in chrome
 
ex maintain cleanliness of the area
 
@EarvinNillCastillo do nothing, don't do anything
users can't be trusted.
 
@rlemon grr i feel you
@.@
but need to do this
 
@SterlingArcher It's 2:35am, in in bed and hungry af. Please share pictures :D
 
@KamilSolecki go to sleep
jesus
 
12:38 AM
I don't need that much sleep during the weekdays
I catch up on the weekends
 
you can't catch up on sleep
your body doesn't work that way
 
i barely sleep
 
how old are you?
 
True, I lie to myself very well.
22.
 
It's been eaten :(
 
12:39 AM
I like 8+ hours a night
 
Crushed it
 
I used to sleep for like 4 hours a night, then like 2 months ago I started going to bed at like 11 and getting up at 6, instead of 2am and getting up at 6
 
mine is 4-5hrs
every night
 
it's so much better. took a bit to get used too, but omg
 
@hsimah I like as many as they give
 
12:39 AM
@KamilSolecki you've got like 7 more years to rock this
live it up :D
 
I try to be in bed at 9pm at the latest, I'm always up at 5am
 
6am for me. weekends I'm up at like 7-730
 
Haha, I guess :D I wake up at 7 and go to sleep anywhere from 1am - 3am
 
I mean, still 6am to pee, then back to bed till 7-730
:D
my body doesn't care it's the weekend.
 
Weekends I'd wake up around 9-10ish
Unless drinking
 
12:41 AM
do you work guys? i mean in a company?
 
Then I try to stay in bed as long as possible
 
yea
 
@EarvinNillCastillo I run my own tiny business
 
8-5, mon-fri
 
@KamilSolecki whats your tiny own business?
 
12:42 AM
I work at an engineering firm
 
@KamilSolecki know any farmers?
 
I get up at 5am every day, weekend or not
 
@rlemon I just figured out what you meant. Yep, the difference is whether you're on the new tab page or directly on google page
 
@hsimah know any farmers? :P
 
@EarvinNillCastillo an internet store.
 
12:42 AM
@rlemon yes, but more cyclists
 
know anyone with a grain dryer?
 
@rlemon When I was on an exchange in US, I lived with a retired farmer
Still has a farm tho
 
@KamilSolecki like internet cafe?
 
Close to Canadian border
Malone, NY
 
I'm trying to sell product here. I need people with dryers. grain, coffee, pet food, seeds, pellets, etc.
 
12:43 AM
@EarvinNillCastillo no, an online shop
 
@KamilSolecki what do you sell
wanted to create business. clothing line to be specific
 
it was 5° this morning. my toes are still burning from getting too cold
 
@EarvinNillCastillo lamps. If you wanna check out the page: Elampki.pl
 
fashion industry is brutal.
 
12:44 AM
@rlemon I do actually, but good luck getting food into Australia
 
Also, returns are dramatic in the fashion industry
 
@hsimah my company makes smart control systems and sensors for dryers.
 
oh cool
 
@rlemon yes very brutal as of today/
 
Zalando has around 40% of orders returned iirc
 
12:45 AM
I thought you were pushing grain on me lol
 
good morning lovelies
 
@Tavo morn
 
\o
 
I recently learned how incredibly expensive copywriting is. The average would be about 3$ per 350 char product description
 
12:47 AM
i once resell pomade when i was in college haha
 
I managed clothing and shoe stores for a few years. got to see some larger 'fashion' companies, and some smaller local ones. it was all the same. even if you can compete, you have to have so much money to begin with (or get luck on like kickstarter now I guess) to get an inventory and stores.. then the people.. ugh. retail was the worst. it's like being an adult babysitting adults.
 
...so for now I'm not doing it
@rlemon the day when I got my first employee to answer the majority of the phone calls was the day of my mental uprise
I was legitimately close to depression
 
I've worked in roofing. a job where literally 75% of the 'employees' had dui's and needed a ride into work. they got paid in cash and hit the bar after work every day. they still cared more about the work than any of my retail employees, including the managers.
retail is the worst job ever
 
yeah
it sucks through and through
so does fast food
still, KFC was my favourite job ever
 
the only time it was fun was when they said "can I speak to your manager" and I was like, yea, that's me. then I'd get the snarky ones with "well let me speak to your district!" and I was like, yea, that's me :D. watch their face drop. eat it.
I don't get paid enough for your shit.
 
12:51 AM
It sucks on one part, but as long as I don't have only the super critical clients on my head, im fine.
 
what do you mean by retail @rlemon
retail employee?
 
inside sales.
selling things from a store.
 
@EarvinNillCastillo shops, where you go and buy things
 
Although I still love doing what I currenty do, so I guess theres thatZ
 
12:53 AM
I've done a bunch of jobs in my relatively short amount of time (I'm ~31). worst was retail, most stressful was fast food, actual hardest was programming, most physically enduring was roofing, most dangerous was chef.
 
I currently have this huge plan of building a full microservice automation centered around one db
 
why it is dangerous as a chef?
 
Have been adding it part by part
 
knives, gas stoves
hot soup
Gordon Ramsey
 
knives are sharp, stoves are hot, floors get slippery
 
12:54 AM
Still, miles to go.
 
and when you get a dinner party of like 12 and have to get 12 meals out at once, you rush. mistakes happen, you get cut
 
I was a fry cook at KFC. High pressure 180°C oil fryers
people died
 
Kentucky Fried Customer
 
my fast food was burger king. I worked night shifts during highschool then maintenance over the weekends (cleaning all the machines after closing)
 
How nasty were the machines?
 
12:56 AM
don't eat there
 
it's not the machines, it's everything else.
 
here we had to clean them on shift, the only thing done after close was mopping the floors - which was my favourite job
 
the broiler is cleaned nightly. the fryer grease is at worst a month old.
 
When I was born, no one knew the universe's expansion was accelerating. Mind blown.
 
12:57 AM
they rotate it between the fryers weekly.
 
KFC here wasn't too bad. I mean it's fried chicken, but if you made fried chicken at home the process would be similar
 
so the last fryer has old grease.
@hsimah my brother worked at KFC, the one he worked at was bad. :P
 
@KendallFrey They learned that exactly at the moment you were born, right?
 
never eat KFC gravy
 
@KamilSolecki A few years later
 
12:58 AM
@rlemon yeah, they differ around the world. Out of all KFCs internationally Queensland KFCs are #1
they rank them
 
@rlemon naaaaaaaasty.
 
well they were when I was there. I was #1 at mopping floors. It tickles my inner autist mopping floors. I used to have to travel around and train other cooks to mop floors.
 
the only good part about the burger king job was on the weekends I started at 10pm, but the kitchen closed at 4am. so I had 6 hours to clean the lobby (it took 30min) then the rest was paid time to read the paper and do other shit till closing. then I had 3 hours to clean everything which sucked.. but yea.
 
How does the new invisible reCaptcha work? is it any less secure than the "I'm not a robot" box ?
 
@rlemon did you really stay up until 4am
 
1:00 AM
@KendallFrey when I was born Chernobyl was happening... :(
 
@William on a graveyard I started at 9pm and worked until 7am
 
I never worked with food. My first high school job was manual labor with woodworking
 
10pm till 11am
it was a 13 hour shift.
 
@rlemon That's when you want a laptop with KSP on it
@rlemon That explains it
 
I cleaned the lobby, the machines, the bathrooms, and the parking lot.
 
1:01 AM
@hsimah that's crazy I think I could do the every other night but not every nigth for sure.
I have to sleep at night
 
As of now, what is your profession @rlemon?
 
As in, not any skill-stuff - sanding on a sanding machine
 
@William Not if you have all day to sleep
 
@KendallFrey I'm not joking. I can literally only sleep at night because of my medication
 
@EarvinNillCastillo software farmer.
 
1:01 AM
@William the store was only open all night on weekends. You signed up for the shifts. It was double time and a half, so you made some good money.
 
Also, occasional CNC operation
 
But I get you, any slight deviation to my sleep schedule and I basically die
 
that was the job that fucked my sleep for years.
 
@KamilSolecki I told you about my brother's hobby CNC, right?
 
what is software farmer sorry i have many questions
 
1:02 AM
it got a bit better, then I worked in a factory like 6 years later and did continental shifts.
that just turned it back into a shit show for sleep
 
@KendallFrey im not 100% sure
 
He recently got it working and is using it
 
@EarvinNillCastillo I write software for agri
 
neverware's site is funny they have this table
no 32gb drives for some reason
 
@KendallFrey sweet. Do you have pics of it?
 
1:03 AM
Not me
 
Ohh @rlemon that is why there is a word *farmer
 
seriously, never work continental shifts.
 
I know, but there is still a possibility you have pics :D @KendallFrey
 
Im working at manufac company
 
Imagine a tube steel frame with a 1x2m wooden surface
 
1:04 AM
@KendallFrey you've peaked my interests.
 
It's fairly small, and he welded together a frame himself
 
:D
 
What colour?
 
> tube steel
tell me more
 
@rlemon ?
 
1:05 AM
Tell me what colour, I cant imagine it goddamnit
Its currently transparent
 
@KamilSolecki I guess the color of steel and wood and electronics
If he painted it, I haven't seen it
 
wall thickness, inner diameter? steel grade?
 
@rlemon pff, idk. like 1-2" square tubing is all I remember
I think I remember anyway
 
Dont arouse him
 
2" hollow square stock can come in a lot of different forms
 
1:06 AM
Could even have been L instead of tube
 
I need an accurate mental picture
:O
 
I wasn't particularly interested in the frame, ok
 
you bastard.
the frame is the best part of a CNC
 
@rlemon dreams = shattered.
 
it's the part that really matters.
 
1:07 AM
no
 
shitty frame == bad CNC
 
well ok yeah
 
You guys should come visit
 
that's like saying a foundation isn't the most important part of a house
 
My fathers friend
 
1:07 AM
it's the part you can't replace later.
 
Makes world class CNCs and lasers
 
@rlemon Why couldn't you replace a CNC frame?
 
you can't replace a house foundation (easily), it was a simile, roll with it.
 
The New ones use linear engines, top
 
at least, I think it was a simile, and not a metaphor, I didn't exactly compare them
I'm bad at english.
 
1:09 AM
I know, but if it doesn't apply to the original topic, it's a bad simile
I'm so lazy right now. I have a reddit post I should be making, and I don't even want to do that.
 
@KendallFrey @rlemon Check this CNC out: youtube.com/watch?v=D7XHcdlWpQY
Seen it in person
Fucking crazy
 
@KendallFrey bout what?
 
factorio
gotta share my perfectionist designs
 
@KamilSolecki so, you're probably the person to ask about a CNC laser cutter for wood? I've got my eye on a solid base, but it has a shitty little laser on it, but I figure i can upgrade that.
 
If I do not know something, I surely can get the informatiom for you.
 
1:15 AM
speaking of lasers what-if.xkcd.com/13
 
cool. when I'm ready to actually maybe pull the trigger I'll hit you up
too many other projects right now
 
(If you haven't read what-if, you really are missing something)
 
and when I do get a laser engraver/cutter I will be able to trade work with kendall. 😃
you don't know it yet, but you'll need my tools.
 
:P
My brother's CNC already has some 3D printed parts on it
 
you know how much easier this is to make from wood and a laser cutter?
 
1:18 AM
I always had a dream of having a dark wooden kitchen countertop. Is it possible to make a practical one too?
 
@rlemon I'd guess about seven
 
@KamilSolecki epoxy resin coating
it's a table top thing.
thin layer, sand and recoat when needed
you can make it as shiny or as matte as you like.
 
Would that withstand the kitchen everyday work?
 
yup
 
Nice, I might be able to get one someday
 
1:20 AM
you need to get the right kind. needs to withstand heat specifically.
but it's out there.
and I know first hand there are youtube videos on how to do it all :D
 
Wohoo
 
I get lost in woodworking videos
they're my tvtropes
actually, now that i think about it, getting lost in youtube land is 100% the reason for my many crazy hobbies.
 
If I get lost in something, it's usually in front of a mirror practicing card magic.
Which means an hour of rewatching a video over and over beforehand to get what is going on
 
youtube made me want to try blacksmithing, knifemaking, bonsai, woodworking, aquaponics, jerky making, homebrewing, mead, cider, more..
youtube is great.
 
I got beer brewing right as we speak!
It's wheat beer
 
1:23 AM
I've got 4 24L carboys bleaching right now
 
what canhappen to the computer if the room temparature is inconsistent. ex: 23c now then tom 25-27c
 
gonna make some mead and some cider
 
@EarvinNillCastillo absolutely nothing
 
@EarvinNillCastillo doesn't matter
 
Not really, but yeah
 
1:24 AM
As long as you de-dust your computer fairly regularly, it will be fine
 
@EarvinNillCastillo if the room temp hits 45C, the computer will have problems. and you'll probably be passed out.
 
still creating about the dos and dont in pc maintenance
 
so no worries.
 
@rlemon that is a fact
@KamilSolecki ty and @littlepootis
 
@EarvinNillCastillo clean vents and radiators from dust is the absolute DO
First thing I'd do when weird things are happening to my computer
 
1:25 AM
the problem in the production is that there is an oil contact
due to the machine
s
so the must do is to clean it
@KamilSolecki will check on it
 
Every 6 months I blow out a truckload of dust with a compressor
@EarvinNillCastillo you can add a note that when cleaning ventillators you should prevent them from spinning
 
@KamilSolecki wtf haha
 
There is No wtf here. You can literally burn your motherboard If you dont
A spinning fan is like a generator
 
yes that is why we should add another note, shutdown your computer before cleaning it
 
Doesnt matter If its off, will still happen.
 
1:32 AM
wha how
 
Well fans have little electric engines in them to turn them
The engines are magnets
Have*
 
thank you for the advice @KamilSolecki
 
When you spin those magnets Fast, you can generate enough electricity to fry the electronics
Anyways, off to sleep. Night, all.
 

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