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12:00 AM
Is there anything in Chrome devtools that will find if a member is on an object or it's descendants?
Is there anything in Chrome devtools that will find if a member is on an object or it's descendants?
 
what do you mean a member?
 
a property of an object
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Q: Find function by name in a complex object using dev tools

1.21 gigawattsI'm importing a library in a project and I can't find a method that I'm supposed to use. The functions name is itDoesntMatterFunctionName(). Is there a search by function name in the chrome debugger tools that if I give it an object it will find it? Example: var myApp = new ComplexApplication(); ...

 
12:42 AM
nice
 
1:33 AM
rotfl 80k bunnies - 60fps goodboydigital.com/pixijs/bunnymark/…
 
@matt it looks like I'm being hypnotized when I put that many LOL
 
were you at 60fps also
 
80k and I'm at 30fps. after 34k it starts to dip
 
1:52 AM
@ParkingMaster, shame they didnt have memory diagnostics there too
<pre id=memory></pre>
<script>
    memory.textContent    = "jsHeapSizeLimit  : "+Math.round(window.performance.memory.jsHeapSizeLimit/(1024*1024))+" MB\n"+
                            "totalJSHeapSize  : "+Math.round(window.performance.memory.totalJSHeapSize/(1024*1024))+" MB\n"+
                            "usedJSHeapSize   : "+Math.round(window.performance.memory.usedJSHeapSize/(1024*1024))+" MB";
</script>
Profiling Node.js Applications nodejs.org/en/learn/getting-started/profiling
 
 
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3:48 AM
@matt Firefox starts dipping below 75fps at about 90K - Edge handles 200K at 75fps!
 
 
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7:23 AM
@JaromandaX, its no surprise, ie was buggy as hell and did things theyre own way, but when you got it working it was quick
 
7:51 AM
@matt Edge has no relation to IE at all :p
 
8:23 AM
@JaromandaX Especially nowadays. In the beginning they were called "IE 12". IIRC, it was sort of in the useragent string. But it wasn't - Edge was a brand new codebase and a new engine and everything. Separate from IE.
Then later they dumped Chakra for Chromium and are now not even the same thing as the initial Edge.
If anything, AFAIK, the Edge team had put in a lot of effort to do things right. But seems it was internal politics or something that hampered developing Edge further (during the Chakra era) which is why it diverged from mainstream browsers at the time. And the adoption of Chrome seemed to be an attempt to 1. stay with the current browsers 2. reduce the effort needed to develop and maintain features in Edge.
Probably also reduced the costs associated with the project. But I believe it to be motivated from mostly the right reasons - so Edge isn't just another IE.
 
 
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5:57 PM
 
6:18 PM
posted on April 26, 2024 by Ben Mason

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7:37 PM
just for amusement really : node-chakracore github.com/nodejs/node-chakracore
seems quite easy to build
 
I was at a MS conference just before they released Edge. Amusingly, they almost didn't talk about Edge. One of the few things they said was the technical lead mentioning they released Chackra for Node and complained somebody wrote an NPM package that blocked Chakra from being used as an engine. He said something like "I get not liking it but you could just not install it. You don't need to write an extra package just to block it".
 
8:00 PM
!!jb
 
Invalid command! Did you mean: pb, jab, js? Try help for a list of available commands..‍.‍.‍.‍.‍.‍
 
!!laws
 
1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey orders given it by human beings execpt where such orders would conflict with the First Law
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law
 
!!man laws
 
laws: "Lists the laws" Examples: || laws
 
8:11 PM
I just realized, there are no robot laws set in place, in real life
I don't think that's a good sign
 
Well, Asimov's laws can't really work as imagined with any of the tech we have.
Amusingly, ML is the closest we get to Asimovian laws. Since you can train it with some concepts in mind.
 
i mean, there are laws that can be used to hold people accountable for the actions of devices they manage/use/create
so, yea, there certainly are laws that govern "robots"
 
8:28 PM
Well, not the laws of robotics, though.
Just human laws. Which are harder to enforce.
With that said, it's not like Asimov's laws of robotics made everything better. Most of his works that include the laws are also about how they fail in some way or are insufficient or are too strong. It's a sensible set of core principles and Asimov uses as a source of conflict for his stories.
 
9:02 PM
@VLAZ, can you elaborate on the ms conference, where was it, were you invited, did you meet many other developer contacts, find it useful
 
It was in London. I wasn't invited, it was free participation. Or maybe you bought a ticket but it wouldn't have been expensive. I don't remember a charge. It must have been 2015-ish, I believe - I know it was shortly before Edge was released to the public (it was still in beta). The conference itself was organised by Microsoft but themed around ES6. They had speakers of various places that introduced different features and new things. And just two MS presentations for Azure tools there.
But pretty much all other speakers weren't MS affiliated.
There were some guys from Opera, talking about progressive apps, the founder of JSBin had a talk, and the creator of Knockout who demonstrated WASM (not really KO-related but I just don't remember his name).
 
did you go for work or independently so to speak
 
Independently. But we went with a colleague of mine since we were both interested. We took the day off.
 
were there many people attending
did they have stalls and stuff or just a conference room
 
Yes, I think something in the order of 200 or maybe a bit more. It was in a hotel's big meeting room and it was pretty full.
Like, when I say "meeting room" think "lecture hall". Not a table with few chairs.
 
9:09 PM
what was the dress code
 
Casual. I had jeans and t-shirt on.
 
have you been to many others
 
There were multiple presentations during the day. I think 30 minute slots or so, with few minutes in between.
@matt No others, unfortunately. I liked that one.
 
was it useful
theres one coming up in paris soon, its 500-600 euro though, bit out of my price range for the minute lol
 
Pretty good. I wasn't very well versed with ES6 at the time and came out with a lot of new knowledge. The presenters really knew their stuff, too. The Opera guys were talking about having the hybrid apps where you can visit a site and use it but also "install" it (exposing a manifest file, so the OS knows it can be installable, web workers can cache resources you need). Which is a neat concept.
@matt I most likely wouldn't pay 500 euro for the one I went to. I'd consider a 50.
I mean, yeah it was good but...also not "I want to pay you a lot of money" good.
 
9:14 PM
The world's sharpest
Javascript conference
june 27, 2024 - PARIS, FRANCE https://www.dotjs.io/
 
At the time MS were really keen on good PR, though. Especially around web tech, given that IE was still a thing.
So, probably why they had that conference and it was cheap or free.
Also helps that I worked in Bristol at the time. Going to London was a 1:30-2h train ride.
I don't think I'd pay 500 euro and also organise a trip to Paris. Well, unless I was in France but even then I'd need to be reasonably close to Paris. Or in it. But the ticket price is still a barrier.
 

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