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2:00 PM
@Miszy I think so, but I wouldn't understand it
 
@Cicada3301 That's the last thing you need to know.
 
@Cicada3301 I think there are only a few masterminds in google who understand the v8 engine truly
 
@Miszy exactly, so I'm not going to prove that untill I know how the js code works
@Neil then you'll never know
 
Lots of optimizations related to running code in multiple threads knowing that it was intended to be run sequentially
 
@Cicada3301 You don't need to know interpreter's source code to know how JavaScript works.
@Cicada3301 Just read the spec of ES5.1 or ES6 and you're ready to go :)
 
2:02 PM
@AbhishekHingnikar Are you emotionally constipated? you look like you haven't given a shit in days.
 
but look: the universe has only 4 simple rules, from them we can define every other rule... and now we have billiards upon billiards of minirules to tell us how to 'use' the universe... can't that be the same with js?
 
@rlemon I had a sort of life shatterning occurance
 
@Cicada3301 What are these 4 simple rules?
 
dude, less fiber
 
@Miszy google it...
 
2:03 PM
@Miszy YOLO
 
@Cicada3301 No, you tell me, because that's bullshit.
 
I remember 1 of them is about quantum... 2 are about atoms and can't remember the forth
 
@Cicada3301 Not that trick again, please
 
@rlemon less women would be a better argument
@Neil Mark 4 is functional
and will reach production... i am calling it neilionpatriot
lol
 
@Cicada3301 Cool. So you don't know shit and still you're trying to argue.
 
2:04 PM
why are all 14 year old science geniuses ?
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@Miszy yes...
 
I want to be educated on why cells are not alive.
 
@rlemon they're not... 13 aged coders usually are..
 
13 coders === 13 modules.
but management doesn't understand that.
@Cicada3301 I first started programming at 8 years old.
 
@rlemon SILENCE HAS FALLEN
 
2:06 PM
so that makes me at least 5 smarted than you
 
And hi
 
@Cicada3301 He was ironic.
 
@rlemon and weren't you a genius?
 
no, I was a ADHD kid with access to a computer
 
I really thank my parents they limited my access to a computer when I was that young.
 
2:07 PM
1993/94 computers were not that common place in homes.
 
@rlemon I started in the corners of my school at 5... but I guess that's not considered fair... and I started really coding at the age of 11
 
@Cicada3301 "really coding" like what? Have every done anything?
 
!!define Pathological Liar
 
@rlemon It means I aint got time to learn your $5 words
 
@Cicada3301 Done like in complete
 
2:08 PM
@Miszy no, but I used a programming language that was not my brain
 
@Cicada3301 Brain is not a programming language.
 
I was making shit while still in diapers.
 
@Miszy why not?
@rlemon that's... impressive!
 
Yes @BenjaminGruenbaum But I have regenerated. I think I am going to keep this one as my "main" account and use Neal for the blog etc and random stuff when needed. (or when called with the @Neal horn)
 
WOOOOOSHHH
 
2:09 PM
@Cicada3301 You tell me, you're the genius.
 
and we're done here folks.
 
@Miszy I tell you I heard of those rules
 
@rlemon Where does the slide fit into that?
 
@Cicada3301 is shrunken from me. should I be glad?
 
@Cicada3301 You are repeating every kind of bullshit you've ever heard.
 
2:09 PM
ohh it fits..... it fits
 
@AbhishekHingnikar Not sure if I should take that as a compliment or an insult :P
 
@Miszy telling I heard them and not being sure of them, there is a difference between that and claiming those are real
 
Or neither if it has nothing to do with me
 
@Cicada3301 pro tip: many users in this room are university educated and twice your senior. Life experience + study means you probably shouldn't act like such a know it all in science with them. It is disrespectful.
 
> the universe has only 4 simple rules, from them we can define every other rule...
@Cicada3301 what were you saying again?
 
2:11 PM
@Miszy but what I'm sure of is that the universe has very simple rules
@Miszy check what I wrote later
 
@Cicada3301 How come you're so sure and people who actually know something are not?
 
@Miszy I told you I'm not sure
 
@Miszy I think they call that difference "wisdom"
 
@rlemon Because there's nothing else large enough to fill your diaper? ;)
 
51 secs ago, by Cicada3301
@Miszy but what I'm sure of is that the universe has very simple rules
you said "I'm sure of"
you're just a troll, it seems.
 
2:12 PM
@FlorianMargaine of that I'm sure...
as of... for religious people god is the only simple rule... right?
so why are you arguing i'm saying bullshit?
 
I vote for 1 day ban for each bullshit that flows out of you @Cicada3301.
 
@Miszy depends on if that is really a bullshit or not...
 
WTF...
Coworker: How much is 1ft?
Me: Can't you use google? It's about 30cm
Him: How much is 30cm?
Me: WTF... 3 ft is ~1m
Him: How much is 1m?
And no, he was not trolling me m(
 
@copy I can't wait for x:xs in JS :)
 
@ThiefMaster ... oy
 
2:15 PM
@qwertynl I like this one better, @Neal was kind of a douche and a repwhore, no offense.
 
@Miszy I told you I heard those... and you're sure of things too right?
 
I got along with @qwertynl :P
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum None taken. :-)
 
> I told you I'm not sure

> I'm sure
 
2:15 PM
@ThiefMaster What, was he martian or something?
Kind of hard to overlook something like that
 
@Miszy I'm not sure of certain things, and I'm sure of others... You're sure that cheese is tasty, but you're not sure how V8 works
 
@Cicada3301 The thing is you need to learn not to be sure about anything.
 
I even have joined in in the @Neal bashing in the past @BenjaminGruenbaum I see what you guys had so much fun with :-)
 
@Cicada3301 „As for me, all I know is that I know nothing” - Socrates
 
@Miszy = using logic... you don't seem like using it right now
 
2:16 PM
@qwertynl Please don't confuse me with him.
 
Can we all agree to shrink @Cicada3301 ?
 
@qwertynl you posted a lot of incorrect answers as @Neal which goes directly against what we're here for and try to accomplish (better JS education). We really hated that ^^
 
@Neil I never did and never will @Neal !== @Neil
 
@Neil Oh its a state of an art, technology
 
@qwertynl Good man. :)
 
2:17 PM
"its amazing" i am loving it... I hacked into using native scroll view to create it
and get iOS's phsyix "D
 
@qwertynl Would that be logical enough? :D
 
@Cicada3301 I'm pretty sure, want an intro?
 
!!summon 29074
 
Ooo.. inertial scrolling
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Hence I "regenerated" as me :-) (I hope you get the Doctor Who reference ;-D )
 
2:18 PM
@Miszy that was not about learning not to be sure of anything... it was becouse he came from the fields and really thought hedidn't know much, when the priests said he's the wisest man
 
@Cicada3301 "priests" ?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum you are... miszy isn't
 
@Cicada3301 Do you even know who Socrates was?
 
Read it, it's a good start.
 
2:19 PM
@Neal will only be here random stuff, @qwertynl is here to stay @BenjaminGruenbaum :-D
 
@Miszy the guys who said he was the wisest man in the world were some kind of priests
 
I don't know everything, Petka actually knows how the optimizations all work but I'm fair with it.
 
@Cicada3301 Bullshit again.
 
@Miszy explain me why plz
 
@Cicada3301 Because you're a) wrong b) missing the interpretation of what he said
 
2:20 PM
@Cicada3301 Burden of proof is on you, @Cicada3301
 
@Cicada3301 You're interpreting everything to support your statements which is called manipulation.
 
@Miszy apparently you're really sure about what you say.... isn't that against your lifestyle?
 
You cannot just claim something and expect others to prove you wrong
 
@Miszy there are many interpretations of what he said... anyway... this topic is making us all angry
 
@Cicada3301 The topic isn't. You are.
 
2:21 PM
Elvis Presley is alive and well living inside the studio basement where the moon landing was shot. Explain to me why I'm wrong.
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@Miszy ok, I won't talk then
 
@Cicada3301 How convenient. Throw random statements, troll, and the shut up when asked for a proof.
 
@Neil I can't
 
I think this question (around a possible bug of browsers) is interesting. Do you have a better answer than mine ?
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Q: storing a variable in localStorage is too slow

StructI have two jQuery mobile pages (#list and #show). There are several items on the #list page with different IDs. If I click on item no.5, the ID no5 will be stored in localStorage and I will be redirected to page #show Now the problem: Storing the ID in localStorage works, but the next page shows...

 
Elvis Presley is alive and well living inside the studio basement where the moon landing was shot. Explain me why I'm wrong.
 
2:23 PM
@Miszy no no wait.... you told me it was me who made you angry.. that's why I shut up... what proof that does not make you angry do you want?
@Neil I can't
 
@Cicada3301 I want you to support your statements.
 
@dystroy It looks pretty clean.
 
@qwertynl What looks clean ? My answer ?
 
@Cicada3301 And so, does that make me right?
 
@dystroy Ya. Sorry if I was misunderstood.
 
2:24 PM
@Miszy It is wrote in history books that he didn't have any special laurea or master or anything like that: he was a simple man from a small farm
@Neil as long as nobody can prove you wrong yes
 
@qwertynl In fact finding the chromium bug report would be fine
 
@Cicada3301 WHAT
 
@Cicada3301 Eh, no.. that's not how it works
 
@Miszy tell me where you read somethin else
 
Otherwise every religion is right contemporarily
 
2:25 PM
@dystroy but is there a bug report? @MatBall is correct in that the process is not supposed to be asynch.
 
@Neil that's how yo want it to work
 
!!wiki Occam's razor
 
Occam's razor (also written as Ockham's razor from William of Ockham (c. 1287 – 1347), and in Latin lex parsimoniae) is a principle of parsimony, economy, or succinctness used in logic and problem-solving. It states that among competing hypotheses, the hypothesis with the fewest assumptions should be selected. The application of the principle often shifts the burden of proof in a discussion. The razor states that one should proceed to simpler theories until simplicity can be traded for greater explanatory power. The simplest available theory need not be most accurate. Philosophers also po...
 
@Cicada3301 Occam's razor ;)
 
@Neil no, because many have been proven wrong
 
2:25 PM
@Cicada3301 I AM WHO I AM UNLESS YOU TELL ME THAT I AM NOT, right?
 
@qwertynl I don't know if there's a bug report. Maybe I should enter it
 
@Miszy yep
 
Are you guys talking about Socrates?
 
@Cicada3301 That's how I want it to work if A=B and B=C then A=C
 
@dystroy It might be a good idea, then you can ref your answer I guess.
 
2:26 PM
@qwertynl unless I prove you
 
@SomeGuy Kind of. We're talking not being a smartass.
 
@Cicada3301 You cannot prove a religion wrong..
 
@Cicada3301 prove me ... what?
 
I'm going to come back when this is done :p
 
@Neil yes, and is that any different from my point of view?
 
2:26 PM
@SomeGuy I was thinking the same thing
 
I thought you guys would stop engaging Cicada by now
 
@Neil not to the religious peope... they won't believe it, but you can prove it to others who are not religious
 
He may not be a troll, but he is still trolling
 
@GNi33 totally just got my co worker with that
 
@Cicada3301 Buh, I'm done talking with you. The moment you decide logic no longer applies to you is the moment we can no longer have discussion
 
2:27 PM
@qwertynl unless I prove you you're not that man, not unless I told you
 
@Cicada3301 You can't prove religion wrong.
@Cicada3301 but that doesn't make religion right
 
@rlemon Hahaha, that's awesome
 
@Neil tell me what's not logic about it
 
@Cicada3301 I already did. Read up.
 
@rlemon :)
 
2:28 PM
@Miszy it wasn't me who said that
 
will try that later
 
@Cicada3301 It was. Stop fucking with me.
 
@Miszy why not? if I create the only religion I could not prove wrong is the pink invisibile unicorn religion
@Miszy read it up: it was neil I think
@Neil @miszy there, check to what sentence this is the answer of
 
I'm getting mad even without being part of this
 
same
 
2:29 PM
@Cicada3301 Nothing is proved until you prove it.
 
and you know what happens when rlemon gets angry
 
5 mins ago, by Cicada3301
@Neil as long as nobody can prove you wrong yes
 
@Cicada3301 You can't throw random statements and claim they're true.
 
You said that religion is correct if no one can prove it wrong
 
@Cicada3301 With no proof at all.
 
2:30 PM
 
@Miszy if nobody proves you something's wrong you will believe that, right?
 
@rlemon Yes please
 
@SomeGuy Breathe deep man.. you don't want to be a part of this. Just walk away slowly!
 
@Owners - are we done with this conversation?
 
@Miszy but I have proofs
@SomeGuy exactly
 
2:31 PM
(once I see people getting annoying / angry with the conversation... maybe JUST MAYBE guys you can think about moving it to a private room)
 
Yeah, move it out
 
@rlemon they wouldn't
 
@Cicada3301 Prove to me that I am who I say I am.
 
@rlemon @rlemon smash puny code
 
Yeah, @Cicada3301 move out. :D I'm out of the topic anyway.
 
2:32 PM
@rlemon Yea... I had @Cicada3301 ignored but I really wanted to know what was going on.
 
@Miszy Your mother is a man, therefore I can fly.
 
@qwertynl I can't... as I couldn't prove you I am 13 when that guy yesterday came online
 
@Cicada3301 Any more claims of yours should go here: chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/45290/…
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What in the world is this fucking piece of shit debate going on about ?
 
totally valid argument
 
2:33 PM
I told you that if you wanted I would stop the topic... but you said it was becouse I needed to prove you something
 
@AbhishekHingnikar @Cicada3301 believes that what people say is true. Therefore I am a rabbit. Meow!
 
@Cicada3301 i am the prince of all saiyan vegeta
 
@qwertynl I can prove you wrong
 
and ... my scouter says ....
 
@Cicada3301 ...
 
2:34 PM
@AbhishekHingnikar I can prove you wrong
 
@Cicada3301 > /dev/null
 
your your dillusion level .... its ... its over 9000 !!!
 
@AbhishekHingnikar UNDER 9000!!! IMPOSSIBLE!
lol
 
9001
 
2:34 PM
/dev/random > @Cicada3301
 
anyway, I won't answer any more questions about this fro NOW
 
@Cicada3301 Well. Done with learning JS? You might want to spend some time on that instead.
 
Ok I am done. Back on topic anyone?
 
@Miszy dude... he knows js man he knows the truth about world !
 
@AbhishekHingnikar Let us not start that again, please :D
 
2:36 PM
@Miszy that's what I come here for
 
That was my photo taking your dillusion reading !
 
@Cicada3301 You come here to troll.
 
@Miszy [comon theme it troll style]
 
@AbhishekHingnikar not going to answer, rethink about what I said and read what you're referring to again
 
Back to shrinky land with you @Cicada3301 !
 
2:37 PM
@Cicada3301 You came here to prove that intellactually we are inferior then you. without any person or third party being a judge
now you are butthurt and feeling aww why these people bug me ?
oh thanks for the flag btw. // cause i sense a few
 
@AbhishekHingnikar I joined other topics of yours and made my part... I would only come here to learn js and html and other stuff: is it still my fault?
@AbhishekHingnikar not mine
 
@AbhishekHingnikar Let it go
 
room mode changed to Gallery: anyone may enter, but only approved users can talk
 
test
 
Anyone who doesn't drop this stupid shit and move on to JS related subjects will be muted for a half hour
 
2:39 PM
Rlemon.... saving internets from premature mental ejaculation, ever since.
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that is the ONLY WARNING
 
Hahaha :D
What do you guys think about EcmaScript 4? Wasn't this awesome?
 
@Miszy now... can you get over giving me something to do with my html?
 
@Miszy I miss it.
 
!!afk have to go to university
 
2:40 PM
@Cicada3301 i can
 
@AbhishekHingnikar miszy was teaching me progressive building in html... doesn't want me to use any scripts and to make the page look good no matter what is your platform... can you continue with that?
 
Yes and no, this whole room can help you with that. But as an advice most of this you have to learn yourself of google for articles on graceful degradation. :-)
If you set your mind on building something and start building it.. and run into issues we will help you resolve them.
 
@AbhishekHingnikar if I can get someone to take care of me it would be better, with google only I cannot see what can be done better or understand my errors
 
mhm ... dude you gotta learn to learn yourself :-(
sorry.
 
@AbhishekHingnikar the whole point is that I need a coding style... can't do that by myself: it's already very messy, need to change that
 
2:43 PM
Read some open source code ?
 
@AbhishekHingnikar I will surely do it wrong
 
@Cicada3301 sorry then if you are so pessimist, you violate the community terms and conditions for support.
 
I call it looking for the best
 
Codeacademy ... try it
or treehouse
 
New Task:
Find the frog.
 
2:50 PM
@Cicada3301 Where do you fit in? dungeonsanddevelopers.com
 
I am the frog (and Florian is another one).
 
Now everyone can thank me. I've occupied him for the next 15 minutes
 
@All I changed my user image for now. If you think I should go back to be a Silent, let me know.
 
@Cicada3301 many of us are in the situation you are in now. I am 100% self taught and I know lots of other regulars in here are the same.
you want to get to the end of the race without running, or breaking a sweat.
that isn't going to happen.
you need to read open source projects and just do what makes sense to you
 
@rlemon but you know much more obviously... and took your time on learning... maybe I should too
 
2:56 PM
you should be looking back at your own code every 6-8 months and thinking "what the hell was I thinking when I wrote that"
 
@rlemon that's what I do with almost everything else....
 
14 mins ago, by Cicada3301
@AbhishekHingnikar I will surely do it wrong
then attitude like this is wrong
if you think you can't, you can't.
and no one will help you
we can recommend resources, but that is about it.
programming is like art. I can give you the tools and the canvas but I cannot teach you how to be rembrandt
 
well... if I claim that if I read open sources and can simply change my style will I need help? no... that's why I ask
 

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