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6:00 PM
!!afk lunch
 
@RUJordan Can you pick up some milk on your way back?
 
@イオニカビザウ I think it is like that in most places unfortunately
 
@イオニカビザウ @Neil In India Teacher Salaray will be like 20% of what i am gonna get from January
 
What would you teach?
 
Basic Computer Science ? you know algorithms :P and stuff
 
6:01 PM
teach them javascript
you'll do them a favor
 
@AbhishekHingnikar Microsoft things? (office, and so on)?
 
@Neil python is better for beginners
 
> those who can't do, teach!
 
@AbhishekHingnikar "better" in the sense of easier, maybe
but you still wouldn't be doing them a favor with python
 
@イオニカビザウ Nah ... we have plenty of those but there is noone teaching how to program properly
@Neil no it actually is rather simpler , no wtfs !
 
6:02 PM
@AbhishekHingnikar That's subjective
 
@AbhishekHingnikar What operating systems do you have installed in the schools?
 
http://i.stack.imgur.com/43rrW.png

Weird artifact when I use google fonts
 
Microsoft Windows , Linux : RedHat
and that is college btw
 
I think javascript would be the better starting language.
 
@rlemon I used to think so, until I gave python a shot.
 
6:04 PM
required tools for js development: an editor and a browser.
setup: none
 
think about the fact that you can open any browser and be able to program in javascript
 
python is developed from ground up for ease of explanation so for stuff like algorithms and stuff its better
 
@AbhishekHingnikar In Romania no one installs Linux... They pay a lot of money on Microsoft Windows and MS Office... :-(
 
I'd also argue for python as being a better starter language.
 
@イオニカビザウ Red Hat ain't free either
@copy will most likely agree with me about python aswell
 
6:04 PM
you get a kid who knows how to program, but the only language he knows is python, and you have a kid without a job
 
@AbhishekHingnikar Ah, I didn't know that..
 
Python isn't a bad starting language. but I personally would argue js is better.
 
ebay api is shit
 
@Neil he can work for YouTube!
 
Another nice feature of python for starting language is how easy it is to pull in a library that you can use for interesting projects with very little difficulty.
Turtle graphics, for one.
 
6:05 PM
@rlemon Sure, YouTube will pay for the plane flight too :P
 
!!s/api/ /
 
@AbhishekHingnikar ebay is shit (source)
 
a lot of well known software is written in Python. But that is meaningless in this discussion. (just saying for @Neil)
 
@Neil If he actually knows how to program, only knowing python is only a short-term problem.
 
@Retsam True, but a short time without a job is kind of a big deal
 
6:07 PM
@Neil Not for a standard definition of "kid".
 
I'd just assume teach programming using a language that will get you a job
your 2nd language can be python
@rlemon I'm aware of that, and don't get me wrong, not dissing python here
But at least here, they look for C#, Java, and web developers
 
Besides, if all you have is a short time to learn programming and then trying to get a job doing it, you're going to have a bad time, regardless of what language you pick.
 
They don't look for ruby, python, and scala
 
They also don't look for "I just started programming 3 weeks ago".
 
@Retsam Much less one who only knows Python, I agree. :)
 
6:10 PM
My point is that the time required to switch languages is trivial compared to the time it requires to actually learn "programming".
If you have enough time to learn programming, then you have enough time to learn a "starter language", like python first.
 
user1596138
@retsam No idea what town I was talking about last time we were both here. I drove through Elwood and it's a normal full-sized town. Haha.
 
@Jhawins Haha, glad I didn't detour myself an hour to drive through there then. I'd have been like "what the heck is jhawins smoking?"
But let me know if you do figure it out.
 
user1596138
@Retsam That's the same thought that went through my head haha. I have no idea where it is. I usually just use my compass on the motorcycle to get from place to place, so I don't really know where I was.
 
@Retsam Well don't take me too literally. Most people who have just graduated only know how to program in the loosest sense of the word
I only mean to say that it isn't an incompetent kid who barely managed to squeeze by and get his programming degree
Stephen Hawking is still alive?
 
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user1596138
6:19 PM
@Retsam There are all kinds of articles about "America's Ghost town: Gary, Indiana" but I don't get them. I've been to Gary, it's huge. There's maybe 1 abandoned factory I remember but other than that it's a busy city haha.
 
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//)
 
^*2 THANK YOU!
 
(now your bracket looks stupid]
 
user1596138
6:21 PM
, (Jhawins is saying something too)
 
Well, that ought to confuse anyone casually reading this chat log later on.
 
user1596138
Hopefully.
 
user1596138
@AbhishekHingnikar Do you want to?
 
I am rather confused :P
 
user1596138
function deepQ(user) { //No need to input the question, all that matters is what you choose to want
    return user.personalOpinion
}
 
6:23 PM
I find myself better at teaching , explaining :P [ well not in english obv ]
 
Hey guys, I'm a JS newbie trying to write my first algorithm. It's quite easy and I don't want to mess on SO creating new question as it's probably way too simple. Could someone help me a little? :)
 
but when it comes to explaining someone how to write something or stuff i can make newbies .. battle ready better
maybe i should just start teaching people .... on sundays ?
 
user1596138
@AbhishekHingnikar A Sunday School teacher?
 
@Jhawins Hmm, maybe Gary's doing better than it used to; I just know if it's reputation as being economically depressed.
 
user1596138
Or, better yet, maybe I'm thinking of the wrong town again...
 
6:26 PM
You might not be thinking of the wrong; a lot of cities don't really look as depressed as they really are.
 
@Jhawins could be good :P
 
I happen to know that Anderson is also not doing too well in the past few years; but you really can't tell that just by driving through it.
 
I might give some people a reason to live :P
 
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user1596138
@Retsam Hmm... I have family over there and I never would have guessed it was any worse than our average town.
 
6:27 PM
@nderscore, alright, sorry! :)
 
I mean what I have personally felt here is, that people with really low caliber teach people with high potential
 
user1596138
Go Karts are still there, so at least they have that.
 
as a result a lot of people have to Mug up code rather then understanding it
for instance I taught a friend LEX
and the first thing he said was... wait so this is not C ? But the teacher told me you write c code in %{ %}, ... Wait i don't need to open a file ? Wait what !!
 
I hate mixing jQuery with JavaScript - I wish JavaScript would add in some of the functionality.
 
I miss the autogreet. Now I'm being apologized to :(
 
6:28 PM
@jbolanos wel you can do that
 
@AbhishekHingnikar Would you enjoy it?
Do you have any prospects to doing that?
 
@AbhishekHingnikar I'm curious why 'friend' is in italics.
 
What qualifications would you need?
How much cash would you make?
 
@Retsam cause the friend is a teacher who teaches us :-|
and was going to teach LeX a few days later :P
@SomeGuy insanely low
 
6:31 PM
Job satisfaction?
 
@SomeGuy I will be satisfied but hmm money is an issue
 
Do you enjoy teaching people? Do you think you'd be good at it or can get good at it?
 
@SomeGuy I am good at it :P
 
I'd imagine that patience would become an issue soon enough as a teacher
You should really talk to @BenjaminGruenbaum about it
 
would you be able to deal with politics?
 
6:32 PM
No :-(
 
Y'know, since he's a professor and all
 
@jbolanos What does 'jQuery and JavaScript mixed 'together' look like?
 
@FlorianMargaine Is there a way to not deal with politics?
 
@Retsam the politics are different :)
 
user1596138
Oh cool. Runescape has an HTML 5 beta.
 
6:33 PM
alright
 
@Retsam teacher politics === ugly
 
@AbhishekHingnikar cya chotu
 
@FlorianMargaine okay dadaji :P
 
I'll assume it means "roxor"
 
6:33 PM
What's roxor?
 
@Incognito this:
 
defaultIcon.onclick = function(e){
			if(v.profilename === activeState.defaultProfile.currentprofilename){
				updateDefaultProfile(v.profilename, v.userid, 'remove');
				$('#jumbotron-table i.fa-circle').removeClass('fa-circle').addClass('fa-circle-o');
			}else{
				updateDefaultProfile(v.profilename, v.userid, 'set');
				$('#jumbotron-table i.fa-circle').removeClass('fa-circle').addClass('fa-circle-o');
				defaltIcon.className = 'fa fa-circle-o';
			}
		};
 
!!urban roxor
 
6:33 PM
@AbhishekHingnikar [roxor](http://roxor.urbanup.com/578296) (n) anything good and/or to your liking.

(adj) a euphoric state of being

(v) performing an act that will invoke a euphoric state.
 
@jbolanos Well that's just prime.
 
@SomeGuy no I'm not, lol
!!afk procrastinating
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Nobody cares.
@SomeGuy BenjaminGruenbaum is afk: procrastinating
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum ...what? Didn't you teach at a university?!
I could have sworn you did!
 
Is saying you don't like "jQuery mixed with Javascript" different from not liking jQuery? Is there a "pure" jQuery option?
 
6:35 PM
oh well, I'm stuck with jQuery using Twitter Bootstrap so might as well abuse it when possible
 
lmao @SomeGuy
 
@Jhawins Any blog entry on how they're doing it?
 
@SomeGuy I taught at a Mechina (that's the university) and I teach at an open source project
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I already told you, nobody cares.
 
Not everyone who teaches at the university is a professor
 
6:35 PM
You even mentioned a course a colleague was teaching on NodeJS
 
Professorship requires a shit ton of research
Yeah
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Oh, alright
 
!!afk stuff
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Apricots are people too!
 
@CapricaSix That reply was almost perfect...
 
6:35 PM
@jbolanos You can exclude the jQuery stuff from bootstrap.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum over here professorship requires scoring the least lol
 
@AbhishekHingnikar BenjaminGruenbaum is afk: stuff
 
@Incognito don't wanna
 
somethinghitme.com/projects/aud/… Dubstep lovers !! check this out @loktar, you got a sound cloud link to it ?
location /foo {
  proxy_redirect off;
  proxy_set_header   X-Real-IP            $remote_addr;
  proxy_set_header   X-Forwarded-For  $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for;
  proxy_set_header   X-Forwarded-Proto $scheme;
  proxy_set_header   Host                   $http_host;
  proxy_set_header   X-NginX-Proxy    true;
  proxy_set_header   Connection "";
  proxy_set_header   X-user-id-hex 3a3c3d3e; # This comes from something else
  proxy_http_version 1.1;
  proxy_pass         node_app;
}
 
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6:47 PM
This branch is 190 commits ahead and 557 commits behind master How is that even possible ?
 
@rlemon Hi to you too.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum BROOOOOOOOOOOO.
 
@AbhishekHingnikar And then suddenly... Imperial March.
 
rlemon likes poop movies
*busy
ttyl
!!afk busy
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Hurry back, ok?
@BenjaminGruenbaum It's been 20 years. You can't just waltz back into my life like this.
 
!!afk busy for real
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Nobody cares.
 
I'm starting to think "auto-off afk on message" is a bad idea.
 
Sure do. Gf is german
 
@Retsam Or using it when you're okay with coming back to reply to someone is wrong!
 
user1125394
6:50 PM
meteor is awesome
 
@cↄ waits for 30-50 minutes
 
@rlemon Molly's German?
(I hope I remembered the name right)
 
@SomeGuy I dunno; I guess I feel like it's my business whether or not I'm "back" or whether I just want to say a single thing and stay "afk".
 
I think it might be better to have a 60 second grace period
 
That's actually a better idea
Make an issue and get it done, Kittens!
 
6:54 PM
RFC: 122 - afk needs more limits to be less annoying.
@SomeKittens too late I was already writing up the proposal.
 
Laaaaaame
 
user1125394
@AbhishekHingnikar ?
 
See, I actually enjoy my job, so there's more incentive to not screw around working on Caprica
 
lol
great minds think alike
 
@cↄ am just waiting
 
6:56 PM
we are both great.
win win
 
ps am getting my popcorns
 
user1125394
that's only the ease with DB, that attracts me
 
@cↄ I wont use meteor just because of that
 
@AbhishekHingnikar A euphemism for puberty?
 
@SomeGuy I am awaiting a rant in 50 minutes :D
 
user1125394
7:02 PM
!!google mongoDB javascript controller
 
Microsoft ^
 
Oh, come on! My joke was funny!
 
it is even funnier because you are younger than him
 
I brought the milk!
 
7:06 PM
@RUJordan Turns out I already have milk. Oops.
 
but more employable.
zing!
 
user1596138
@Incognito Not su
 
user1596138
@Incognito Not sure
 
Anybody know how tag scores are scored?
 
7:15 PM
what scores
 
@KendallFrey the tags on your profile. Like.. 60 × 72
 
> You must have a total score of X in at least Y non-community wiki answers to achieve this badge.
so the scores are calculated on answers that are non community for said tag.
and scores are votes. up and down.
so if you see [php] x 72 then you have a net total of 72 upvotes in php tag
 
any d3 people who want to help a poor soul?
 
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Right, so I had a question in javascript yesterday that got 5 upvotes, yet my JS score didn't move
Unless I'm just having a brain fart
 
7:18 PM
> You must have a total score of X in at least Y non-community wiki answers to achieve this badge.
 
Ah
 
my question is "splain the concepts of D3 please"
 
That explains that
 
I did,
I did a decent amount of research
 
7:19 PM
then refine your question
 
What about the D3 object makes it special
 
lol
 
@SimonSarris just got your ping. that is quite funny!
 
Brian fart (even better)
 
7:22 PM
ohmai
 
I think @KendallFrey just sharted.
classy
 
@rlemon Why?
 
classic
 
and you just gave him a shart-out
 
because you are posting about the unfortunate situation we sometimes find ourself in
 
Speaking of.. @rlemon is the slidepoop story true or just a funny command?
 
It's not true.
 
no it is not true.
 
That's what he wants everyone to believe!
 
the room was doing 'confessions' and that was all I could think of
 
7:26 PM
Haha
 
@KendallFrey maybe...
!!slidepoop
 
Mar 13 at 1:40, by rlemon
(Random Fact, when rlemon was 13 he pooped on a slide. he isn't proud of it, but he felt it was time to confess. I'm sorry slide.)
 
(this was the message above that one)
Mar 13 at 1:39, by Brandon Gelfand
Random fact, in some state in which name slips me at the moment, you have to remove the roof from your house when you burn it down
 
Aren't you removing the roof with fire? lol
 
I think it's Texas where criminals have to give their victims a 24 hour notice before committing the crime.
 
7:27 PM
well a burning building is a public place. And in public places you cannot smoke under an enclosed roof.
 
@SomeKittens Can you please tell me if the Humble Mobile Bundle is worth it if you buy it?
 
Define 'worth it'
 
haha looking for a good "Worth it" pic and this shows up on the first page (lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/StillWorthIt-54409.jpg)
 
@SomeKittens If any of the games are fun, let me know.
 
and i'm not even marking that as NSFW because if seeing knees and panties gets you fired you work for a bunch of pussies
 
7:29 PM
@KendallFrey "Hey guy, just a heads up, 24 hours, I'm stabbing you in the ass 5 times at a local market." (not texas specific, I think the butt stabber was in NY?)
 
@rlemon The angle is terrible.
I'm never hiring that photographer.
 
0
Q: How could I write this simple Javascript App better?

DrStompSo I wrote this simple javascript application for a homework assignment and I got feedback saying it could be written better. Can I get some feedback on how to write this differently. It works for me and returns the results I need but I would like some more specific feedback. It was meant to be s...

 
lol
she has nice knees... I would.
 
I often lay down, knees up, boxers halfway down.. just gotta breathe out the gents ya know.
 
@SomeGuy Considering I have entire bundles of backlog right now...
 
7:31 PM
I breathe out my nose, psycho.
 
@SomeKittens Me too, man. But deleting Awesomenauts is helping!
1 week, and no signs of a relapse!
I might just make it the entire 3 months or so!
 
I have over 100 games on steam and I've played maybe 1/5 of them :P
 
I only have 2 games installed on Steam.
 
I have like.. 30 and all I played was CSS and TF2
 
The rest are from bundles that I never played after I got Steam.
 
7:34 PM
@nderscore 178! For reference: wolframalpha.com/input/?i=178%21&dataset=
But we're all going to have to shut up if Loktar turns up.
 
I need a proper gaming computer instead of laptops.. I miss TF2
 
How about a proper gaming laptop?
 
Hold on, I'll summon him: "Hey, I saw an old Videlectrix for sale!"
 
@RUJordan I'm kind of hearing that TF2 isn't what it used to be.
 
@KendallFrey I don't like huge screened laptops. =x
 
7:36 PM
I don't like small screens.
 
@Retsam really? Damn.. I loved being a flamethrower guy
 
I couldn't stand getting anything smaller than my old 15".
Now I have a 12lb 17" brick.
On the bright side: I'm in slightly better shape than I would be with my old one.
 
My only computer aside from work is my 11" macbook air, and I love it's portability. I don't need a huge backpack, it doesn't weight anything.. it's perfect. But if I'm at a desk, gimme a TV for a screen anyday.
 
@SomeKittens no you have to say his name three times in three different pings all containing the name of a console.
@Loktar Atari
@Loktar SNES
@Loktar PS2
now he will come.
 
Wait for it
 
7:38 PM
Yeah, he'll come all over this room.
 
@rlemon Hahahaha
 
@SomeGuy I'm glad you got that ;)
I knew Kendall would assume that was the joke anyways
 
I like Loktar. He's funny
 
he work(s|ed?) for the government. he is never 'funny', always serious... always watching..
 
I saw a module today called "<nameofourproduct>cums". Not sure exactly what it does...
 
7:40 PM
@Beetlejuice @Beetlejuice @Beetlejuice
 
@RUJordan I haven't managed to play myself recently, but I hear it's just getting to be too much 'crazy item insanity', I think.
 
@KendallFrey cums-smuc.ca
sfw
 
@phenomnomnominal I'll Betelgeuse you.
 
I think worked is the proper word tense now. He got a new job
 
> Canadian University Music Society
 
7:41 PM
@rlemon Now what's in your google search history? :)
 
@RUJordan he may have a new job, he may also still be employed by his old employer
so I just gave both options
 
Ahhh true.
 
what's considered the best way to allow a user to open a file from their desktop in your web app and then save a file from web app to disk?
 
Question title of the day: please solved my quation
 
@hunterc the File API
 
7:43 PM
@RUJordan Did you mean: quaternion?
 
@phenomnomnominal thanks
 
@KendallFrey that's the mathematical equation for orbital/sphere rotation, correct?
 
yeah
 
@RUJordan It's like complex numbers (a + b i) except with 4 dimensions, I think?
 
I think it's safe to bet quaternion math is beyond this question OP's skill.
 
7:46 PM
lol
 
Yeah. Well, I've noticed quaternions are something of a joke in the mathematical/computer science community.
 
@Retsam I just know the general concept from watching I believe JanDvorak explaining the Wiki article.
 
@Retsam yep that's exactly what they are
 
People thought they'd be revolutionary and really useful, and they turned out to generally not be worth the effort.
 
they allow you to deal with the ambiguity of rotations around a sphere in 3 dimensions (namely that there are multiple ways to achieve the rotation)
They are REALLY useful
 
7:47 PM
a + bi + cj + dk where i j k are all square roots of -1
Not sure how that computes
 
I don't think i j and k are all square roots of -1.
 
Yeah
 
-12
Q: please solved my quation

user3010336#include<stdio.h> #include<stdlib.h> #include<unistd.h> #include<sys/types.h> #include<signal.h> #include<sys/times.h> #include<time.h> void areyouserious(int sig){ execl("/usr/bin/time","time","-f","\t%U user,\t%S system,\t%x status","date",NULL); } main(){ signal(SIGINT,areyouserious); whil...

 
Oh, and you can rewrite it a + bj + di + ck ;)
 
Wouldn't sqrt(-1) be a massively floated decimal?
 
7:48 PM
There's some more complicated constraints on j, and k. (i = sqrt(-1) still).
 
@Retsam sqrt(-1) = i
 
@rlemon yeah I didn't wanna post a C question here, but that's the one lol
 
@RUJordan huh
 
@RUJordan any funny question that needs to be mocked by all should be posted
 
@Retsam Yeah i != j != k, but they're all sqrt(-1)
And I think ijk = -1 or maybe 1
 
7:49 PM
ijk = -1
 
@KendallFrey Oh, right. Because sqrt() isn't a function... (in the mathematical sense)
 
@rlemon duly noted my man.
 
i^2 = j^2 = k^2 = ijk = -1
 
ReferenceError: Invalid left-hand side in assignment
hurr hurr hurr
hahaha
user profiles like that look funny
joined today, one question, [on hold] -16
 
I love summer. What should I wear today? finds tshirt. Done.
 
7:52 PM
Is -26 the most downvoted question on the site?
 
ohhh heavens no (but might be the most downvoted one that isn't deleted)
 
@dystroy I learned promised-io
but i am pretty sure i am using it wrong and cant find more tutorials explaining the use
can you help please
when(AM.addcontact(pair,request.session.user,request.body.contact.length,function(e,o){
						if(!o)
						{
							 response.send('something went wrong'+e);

						}
						else
						{
						   //response.send(o);
						}

					}),addit(o),rejectit);
here when is a promised object
 
I don't think dystroy is even here
 
can anybody help me with this ?
 
7:54 PM
@ThiefMaster I don't think I would post again, if my question hit -75
 
-157
Q: Don't close questions where the user has requested that it not be closed

Adam DavisThe system should search posts for the word "please" in proximity to the phrase "don't close" or "do not close", and if found together disable the close link for the following reasons: They asked nicely They knew enough about the system to understand that posts can be closed, and thus are exper...

@ThiefMaster how... how did 5 people upvote him?!
 
@ThiefMaster "removed from Stack Overflow for reasons of moderation." ?
 
I'm sorry, but this proposal is fatally flawed. I mean, if they can't even be bothered to use "pretty please", how do we know they're sincere? — Tim Stone Jul 20 '11 at 3:10
 
@rlemon 42 you mean
probably because the question is somewhat funny
 
I meant your Q not mine
 
@rlemon SO MANY BOUNTIES
21
A: Always Friday in Iceland?

TroggyHaha, yes. That started with the user Olafur Waage who lives in Iceland. I believe it started with someone asking a Friday type of fun question and it started as a comment, then turned into a tag. And then people started slapping it on more fun meta questions. Friday is kind of the official "...

 
a StackOver Flower sounds lovely.
 
It sounds powerful
Like an overlord
Ugg I can't spell today
 
some one here with experience in promised-IO ?
 
^ first flowery result for stackover flower
 
7:59 PM
@SomeKittens I followed that to the Memes about John Skeet .. and found this comment..
AWWW SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET!!!1 — Jason Watts Jun 12 '09 at 19:32
 

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