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!/MEOOWWW
03:15
Burning
oh, reno is cating again!
04:12
o/
04:41
hey coldy o/
Good Morninig to all :)
04:56
Good morning
 
1 hour later…
06:41
yo
07:10
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo‌​oooood Morning Everyone!!!!!! :D
hola womp
sup?
Morning WOMP3R :3
Tim Lost
07:28
Hiya CF, Cat!!!! :D
07:46
sup all
I am good still in communist area
I am alive
What about you Eric and womp?
EA removed all micros from BF2 temporally and without date of re-insertion
I'm sleeeeeeepy
and my brain is thinking to hard on not-work related things
07:54
Like dnd and pandas?
oh, i wish
but now they will get added to the thinking process
@W0MP3R moana songs added in ingrish
nice
@W0MP3R you can do it.
if you need help i'm here.
i'll do 1st year for now
08:02
good. good.
/me can help
2nd if i'm inspired
the game's mechanics are easy enough to take not too many JS code
and you'll have distraction while you not have backend
js you say??
yeh
what are you doing it with?
right now??
i'm html+css things
and the db is half cooked
08:15
so php?
maybeeeee
It's the one thing i really know (and can do things with)
make it in angular / ionic
:P
09:14
Tim Hey :)
09:27
Hiya Tim!!!!! :D
09:44
Hiya Tim!!!! :D
Hiya Tim o/
I feel like a celebrity
@TimCastelijns lmfao the rain and the words
Celebrity tim
give a celebrity pose ;)
\o/
Apr 24 at 10:26, by Tim Castelijns
user image
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09:59
lol yeah seen in FB
:D
user443346
o/
sup tim
o/ Jordy my ring winger friend
user443346
That moment when your colleque forgets to set an MX record and wonders for 2 days why the customers emails aren't receiving.
user443346
10:12
facepalm
user443346
@AdamMc331 Hahahah oh man thats epic :d
10:33
shitshitshitshit
oh hi o/
Hiya Jordy, Ocus!!!!!! :D
10:55
o/
o/ ocus
Hiya Mehdi!!!! :D
user443346
o/ womp, mehdi, cf, eric, timmothy, ahmad
11:15
\o lord of frikandellenbroodjes, master kapsalon devourer, php victim, intern bully
wow
so much love around
user443346
11:27
hahahah
user443346
im not a bully :(
user443346
i get bullied by my interns
:(
Lol Jordy
12:55
dutch weather video is golden -- hopefully they exaggerated a little bit
not really, lol
13:14
I like the ducks floating under the rain XD
13:26
took me 1 day to install all the tech stack on my new laptop...
13:50
Hiya Netpork!!!! :D
Time to go!!
Cya later people!!! :D
same here
cya WOMP3R
tc cya all brb
14:11
Morning
14:24
Hello
Had to come share real quick. Hurry before it's gone. LMAO
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Q: Again and Again and Again The F.... Activity has been destroyed

Masoudy BaBaI know , i know , there are a ton of same question out there and all the answers are just nonsense the thing i have been facing so far is that my activity is right in front of my face and i am replacing fragments back and forth . then suddenly i face this exception , while trying to replace the...

> the goddamn activity is in front of my face
XD
:')
always right on time
lol true
o/
14:37
\o
@codeMagic yo
it's a hard job, but someones got to do it
Wow so I'm trying out Firefox Quantum for the day. It might be faster and less memory, but it doesn't have any of my dark theme chrome extensions for StackOverflow chat or GitHub, so I think I'm gonna be off shortly.
o/ adam
adam nooo :(
ff ftw
chrome sucks
14:44
You suck
NEIN you suck
fite me
fites adam , adam loses
there done
@rlemon There's no Firefox version of the dark chat, is there?
nay
14:46
Yeah this will be short lived then. Back to Chrome tomorrow.
@rlemon why not?
i mean firefox doesnt offer the tools?
because I dont' use FF. it wouldn't be a hard conversion
the only 'chrome' api thing I'm using is sync store
which can just go to localStorage and not sync
oh
nice
i will try doing that in the process will learn something \o/
will ping you tho for the help
these are the areas that would need changing afaik
been a while since I worked on it
:(
i hope its not hard since i know nothing of js
14:51
my js isn't great.
oh
@RaghavSood made some profit with ltc
yay
Okay so FF screenshots are revolutionary. The fact that I can screenshot a whole page not just the visible portion is game changing.
@ColdFire Hey, CF!
I'm not really here. Just needed to share that post :P
14:54
yo my favourite trangle
Also, I can't edit tags right now
whatsup?
@AdamMc331 what do you mean, whole page
@rlemon i will try doing it in a couple of day will ping you if i need any help :)
Just trying to fix this damn app, atm
14:56
i think he means whole page without scrolling tim
working on BLE again?
@AdamMc331 you can do it with chrome too, without extensions
WAT
My whole life is a lie.
See how that screenshot has the entire page, even though there's no way that fits onto one monitor? mind blown.
15:00
it can easily fit on a 1920x3240 monitor
o/ cygery
yeah the screenshot feature is nice
lol sorry I don't have that kinda monitor Tim
that is a monster monitor
wow neat
15:08
has anyone worked with dataset here in c#?
15:19
not it
:(
issue solved now \o/
no, nobody
@MarkO'Sullivan On November 21 at 5PM, join us at ETQ, Amsterdam's hippest footwear store, to experience the OnePlus 5T before anyone else. And if that wasn't enough, get there early for chance for some free accessories while you're at it.
it's hella expensive though
definitely not going to get one
15:37
I won't either :D just bought a new Nexus 6p
I might never get a new phone. Prices are absurdly high these days
I don't buy them new, I keep looking on small offers websites
I need to stop buying new phones.
I probably will after this Pixel 2 XL. It's an amazing phone. I shouldn't need another.
I have an agreement with myself to never buy used hardware
I bought it yesterday at 270e
I buy new ones or 1 week used max :D
15:39
true tim same
same goes for the macbook, bought one that has 40 battery cycles
you never know what some retard did with it
true, that's a risk
but I'm also not willing to pay top dollar for new stuff
so here I am with my 3 year old phone and no PC
hahahaha
15:43
lol
i have my hp laptop for now
will probably buy a new one
there's also the option of reconditioned hardware
not in NL
same not here
not here neither
I still have until today to return the mac if I didn't like it, it's good so far
neither = not either, so here you say just either
15:46
right, otherwise it's a double negation and has the opposite meaning, right?
yup i thought same but since i am no english expert /shrug
wait no i dont think so mehdi
I guess theoretically it would have the opposite meaning, but in this case it doesn't really make any sense
understood, Thanks!
do either of you have experience with location services in android
FusedLocation?
15:56
yeah but its been a while since i have worked on it
that was not a question, guys
makes fun of people using double negative ; can't use a question mark.
hahaha
Mar 22 at 19:10, by Tim Castelijns
sorry if that came across condescending. I don't like correcting grammar
Mar 22 at 19:11, by Mehdi B.
not at all, I appreciate it! English is my third language but it's the one I use at work.. so I must improve myself in it :D
And I maintain this ^
Please keep correcting me :P
16:00
just want ocus to feel bad for implying I was making fun of you
mean* this you mean?
anyway. You are in an activity, you need a highly accurate location ASAP, what do you do?
I always feel bad ; you can't hurt me more
lol ocus
get location tim what else?
show a dialog and get the location
but how exactly
16:03
is the activity on listening mode?
currently I do getLastLocation but they report it is not accurate enough
you have gps on right?
no there is 24/7 background location updates, and parts of the app make use of the obtained locations
yes everything is on
you don't need gps on for getLastLocation
well for accurate location you need
which is what tim wants
perhaps its returning the old location tim
isnt there some method called getLatestLocation()
or getCurrentLocation()
something like that
16:05
you just get the last location that was fetched by another "consumer" through the FusedProvider
my boss said the client said that sometimes location is inaccurate (that's just how it is, we discussed it 100 times already) and that I should do something to give the location service permission to use as much power as it needs to get a super accurate location "right now". I said that's not something you can just do. But I have to investigate anyway. Of course I can not find anything
welp could be totally gps fault
you can only do getLastLocation or requestLocationUpdates
at some places inside building gps sometimes doesnt work
assume people are outside, working
16:07
request updates frequently i guess?
3 mins ago, by Tim Castelijns
no there is 24/7 background location updates, and parts of the app make use of the obtained locations
GPS just works like that, mostly it is accurate, sometimes it is not
yup i already said that it could be totally gps fault
getLastLocation() does NOT actually use the GPS or the wifi-based location
I know what both methods do, but it's friday and my brain is fried, so I'm asking what you would do in my case
have you set the accuracy to most accurate?
16:10
because I told them it's not possible what they are asking for, but it's not enough
yes
or high accurate whatever that is
everything is juiced up to the max
if you want precise locations, use requestLocationUpdates() + android.permission.ACCESS_FINE_LOCATION
it will actually use the GPS or the wifi to determine the location
bro, I know
but it might be limited by the user setting for the locations
16:11
it is
it happens only on some devices right?
all devices are sometimes inaccurate, it is not the device's fault
If you want a FusedLocation example gist.github.com/MehdiFal/6ae11fd67473d488e659ea347e522945 ,didn't have enough time to update / clean it (from an old project)
requestLocationUpdates - sounds wrong to use just for getting 1 location
What I usually do is store the location on the SharedPrefs as soon as its retrieved
then my getLastKnownLocation pulls it from there
16:13
if you want accurate location i think requestLocationUpdates is the way
tho that will suck the life out of battery
you can enable those location services, wait for an update and disable the services as soon as you get one
GPS is always on, no problem
battery usage is not important
also, requestLocationUpdates might give inaccurate locations for the first few updates depending on how long the gps module takes to "locate the sattelites"
^
not something you could solve tbh my lg g2 had a gps issue sometimes it used to mess up
16:16
hence they told me to allow the location service to use more battery, but that's not possible, but they won't accept it
how about using a mix of both methods ? Is getLastLocation() is too inaccurate (or too old), then requestLocationUpdates()
how would you know it's inaccurate?
yeah how do you know its inaccurate anyway?
sometimes getAccuracy is inaccurate
16:23
lol quite reliable indeed , thanks google
getAccuracyForGetAccuracy()
when getAccuracy returns 0, which means good accuracy, there is about a 30% chance the location is not accurate
how can you tell the accuracy is inaccurate?
as far as I know, the Fused Location API has always returned high accurate results
through testing
16:25
^
tho i have to say the Fused Location api was quite accurate for our client
they didnt complain about location issues
> there is a 68% chance that the true location is within that radius of the measured point in meters. Assuming that errors are normally distributed (which, as the docs say, is not necessarily true), that means that this is one standard deviation. For example, if Location.getAccuracy returns 10, then there's a 68% chance the true location of the device is within 10 meters of the reported coordinates.
source?
from your source dude
> We define horizontal accuracy as the radius of 68% confidence. In other words, if you draw a circle centered at this location's latitude and longitude, and with a radius equal to the accuracy, then there is a 68% probability that the true location is inside the circle.

In statistical terms, it is assumed that location errors are random with a normal distribution, so the 68% confidence circle represents one standard deviation. Note that in practice, location errors do not always follow such a simple distribution.
my quote is from SO, but it is straight from the docs
basically my task is to increase that 68%
yup not exact same but yeah pasted the docs above----------------^
16:28
"2 years ago"
wrong channel...
can't delete
I don't understand that getAccuracy is inaccurate here
the number is accurate. But an accuracy of 0 (the best value it can be) does not mean that the location is accurate
no accuracy does not mean inaccurate
16:36
getAccuracy does not return a percentage 0-100
it's just a number. I've seen it go as high as 3000
> Get the estimated horizontal accuracy of this location, radial, in meters.
METERS
higher means worse, hence 0 is the best
of course
but even with accuracy of 0, the location itself can be inaccurate
of course
16:37
realm is the best database lib
probably
I'll take it
so
16 mins ago, by OcuS
how about using a mix of both methods ? Is getLastLocation() is too inaccurate (or too old), then requestLocationUpdates()
"too inaccurate" for what you consider is an accurate location
if you don't mind being 100m off, it is accurate if getAccuracy() < 100
it comes down to that "we are 68% sure that you are here" does not satisfy
16:47
I've never had to bother with that... The guys developing our android-geo-library neither... and nobody ever complained...
client --"some locations are wrong"--> client --> boss --"tim fix it"--> tim --> ??
it's been like this for like a year, and now they complain
but I guess I will try this developer.android.com/reference/android/location/…, android.app.PendingIntent)
but you got more than "some locations are wrong" or...?
carl o7
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