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12:00
how is it goin' guys ?
@Ahmad !
Hey Ocus
How's SEA?
Or wherever you are atm :P
I'm in Cambodia !
It's... hummm... Annoying.
not much to do right now in Phnom Penh
In 4 days I should be diving by the coast
12:06
omg OcuS!
Ahmad \o/
no photos this time, my phone is broken since a month :'(
:/
where've you been since the last time you were here?
:D
Last time I think I was in Chang Mai in Thailand
I've been almost a month in Laos. Amazing country. I loved it
12:08
wow this looks frickin' amazing from what I see in google images
Everything's so beautiful there (except the roads, they're a NIGHTMARE
hahah
are you renting a car to drive along the coast?
nope, just bus/van for the moment
Aah I see
wow, how long have you been already on the road now?
but when I'll arrive in Vietnam in 12 days, I'll try to buy a motorcycle to go from Hochimin to Hanoi
6 month on the 1th of November
I ttttttttttttttttt
I plan to go back to france for the 15th of december
12:11
damn awesome
ahh I see
I'm kinda getting tired of travelling :/
hahah yeah I think I can understand xD
I want to settle, not to have to pack my bag every 3 days
and what after that? back to dev job?
and I fuckin' want to eat some REAL food haha
after that, I'll start to search for a job in January
12:13
did you try the weird stuf they offer in thailands streets?
those insects of stuff lol
I don't know where yet... Paris... USA...
the weirdest thing I ate was a grilled scorpion in Bangkok ^^
here, they have small snakes and... pretty big spiders :|
haha yeah that's the stuff I meant
snakes, I could, but spiders, even drunk, it's a NOGO haha
lol
where have you been already?^
12:19
woah
(if you count Hong Kong and Macau as countries (which tey are ^^
so you pretty much conquered the whole region lol
next vietnam and 2 weeks in New Delhi in India, just to see if I like India enough to make my next travel there :)
haha :D
yes, I came, I conquered, I left :)
12:21
Napoleon-OcuS III
who wants to watch aussie comedy?
hehe
why didn't you take a trip to Aussie-land?
Aussie is crazy-EXPENSIVE
12:23
NOPE Adam :|
I think Australia is in one of the top three most expensive countries, no
it's to fund this top notch comedy
but I know a girl who had a mosquito bite. She scratched. It transformed into a hole in her leg. 3cm wide and 4cm deep through the flesh. scary
and also, about australia, I'm too old to have working holiday visa, so... in the next life
time to go to eat, see ya later guys !
12:27
cya!
Lol
Gah what is this madness
The green button now does something different
Took a sec to figure out that the green button makes windows full screen/not, instead of the no-longer-existant top-right button.
12:44
you have to press the green button with alt
then you'll get the old effect
morning
So, any thoughts with the Nexus 6?
And any theory what they'll call the next Nexus Phone?
it's too big
and too expensive
12:52
but I like it all the same
Yeah, I'll probably end up getting the successor to it.
I would get it if I thought I could talk my company into paying that much
I have noticed the number indicates the size, and 6 inches is pretty big for a phone...
imo it is way too big for a phone
I had the note 1 (5.3inches)
and it was already really big
Agreed. My S3 is plenty big enough for a phone
12:56
A big phone from 2 years ago doesn't seem as large today...
I like the size of the N5, but I'll admit, it's borderline too big...
Morning
I just want to know one thing.
What happened to the Nexus 8?
There will have been a nexus from 1 to 10, except for 8...
it is a matter of taste I guess
5.3" was bigger two years ago as today
13:32
this guy is amazing.
for anyone doing ruby
user457812
Looks like I should get my new keyboard on Wednesday
user457812
Goody
what kind of keyboard?
user457812
A model M with blank keys.
13:49
oh, cool
Howdy.
Ahmad: totally off topic: do you know Loriot?
yeah of course
good
imho a must know :D
bye droids 0/
14:03
haha yeah :D
cya berserk
Are we talking about Vicco?
Vicco?
Notice the empty room
nobody showed up
Ha!
Less than 15 people...awkward
at 9:30 it get's really awkward
hahah I don't know if MySQL was not really known back then
but he's really asking a CS class at Harvard if they know what MySQL is
or if they ever heard of Memcache
14:19
I actually took a version of CS50x online
then we understand why there were only 15 people
It's supposed to be an intro course so they probably haven't worked with this stuff yet
I dunno, do people that study CS never poke around this stuff before going to uni?
> I'm actually not sure what would be interesting to talk about
lol
14:21
lol yeah
> Maybe you guys could help out a little
hi there
And I bet everyone who ditched and didn't show up regretted it after their IPO
o/
> I'll just go into question time now
haha yeah
Elon Musk before paypal
400M page-views but only 15 people want to hear him talk
14:27
I would have thought he would have been already really big back then as well
especially at harvard
14:39
preparing for ebola to arrive
lol
soo...I did a fetch last night, and the codebase went from 7K to 15K...
lol
someone pushed a last minute patch
I do not know what happened
I cloned the repo
and I was like ok...this seems small, but ok
then I fetched just to see if they pushed something at the end of the day
and I got the remaining 8K
I hate source tree
maybe I didn't have some sort of permission to see it all?
14:58
can you set permissions on part of git repos?
I don't think you can
I do not know
what would be a scenario in which git clone does not return the whole repo?
but it compiled for you before?
just look into the git logs
did they push something?
I am looking
it did compile
@Ahmad Nope.
really? most people don't?
15:06
Having tutored level 1 CS students... nope.
Having hired CS students... nope.
wow.
People who have personal projects, especially before uni, are rare.
o.0
15:18
and most of them have at least worked in the field a bit
Ahmad, I told that story once:
Jun 29 '12 at 0:12, by WarrenFaith
oh that reminded me of a freshman girl at my university. In the opening speech for the bachelor and masters, I asked her what she is studying. She said media informatics bachelor. I said: cool, I am doing the master, have you yet programmed? She: Yes a bit. Me: In which language? She: Well, in English... I caughed sooooo hard
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xLOL
@Ahmad nah I'm not going to the Droidcon anymore
oh too bad
LOL warren
every major that has "media" in its name is a joke
MEDIAoca amirite?
Lol :D
15:22
well I learned a bit in media but I do agree that doing "media informatics" is pretty "in" today
Warren, any relation between media informatics and internet marketing ?
or I m wrong here.
they have nothing in common, I guess
media informatics is basic CS with some media topics like design, audio, video
Ah I see.
I remember in our company they are an media informatics employee
Shit sometime I forget things that I know.
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15:51
Is it bad approach ? ^^
Yes
you should not pass stuff to a Fragment's constructor
yes
use setArguments
ok. i am upating my code. thanks
haven't read but: YES! :D
hehe
15:54
generally people make a static method called newInstance that acts like a constructor
indeed
where it just takes the arguments, puts them into a bundle, calls setArgument on the fragment, and returns the fragment
or you can use for your fragment @SuppressLint("ValidFragment") :D
ok. gotcha
@Abdellah that is a bad idea
15:57
An Ex-professor said to us : "when things work don't modify it"
Emm, Indeed
@Abdellah I disagree to a certain degree
"work" is too generic to be used in a rule
Indeed Warren ^^
For example: a calculator that takes 70 years to do 1+1 might work when it returns 2 but 100% of us would consider it to be too slow
also you often miss the learnings of doing stuff correct with some refactoring
16:01
\o
there is also a programming workflow in: make it work, improve it later
hey Carl!
he said "when things work good don't modify it".
still you miss the learnings
make working stuff modular, faster and more efficient :D
I miss good
doesn't change my opinion :D
16:03
1 min ago, by WarrenFaith
there is also a programming workflow in: make it work, improve it later
(y)
how's it going Warren?
good good so far
I am waiting for weekend :D
yeah, me too
having guests over for dinner, would rather just skip to that part
I can imagine that
16:08
I'm from CIA
looks like API 21 dropped
indeed it has
Downloading it now
too
lets bring the internet down!
Downloading Documentation for Android SDK, API 21, revision 1
Download interrupted: URL not found.
So it begins :O
16:11
same here on doc url
same here
obviously only the doc url
same-thing
Downloading Documentation for Android SDK, API 21, revision 1
Download interrupted: URL not found.
o/
I hope this doesn't screw eclipse like the preview did
16:15
Website is finally live: provectium.com
5
Congrats jyoon !
@Abdellah ?!
creepy?!?!
Apology for the name
seriously wtf
deleted big point at the end
16:21
wow, never thought it would be so hard to save fragment state when going into the backstack
point:dot*
I remember reading about a newer lib that did the same thing
bitbucket really changed since the last time I was on there
looks really nice now
onsavedinstancestate doesn't seem to be called on my fragment
16:25
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trevor, are you using setRetainInstance(true);
?
short question: how do you prevent a double tap on a button (button starts a new activity)?
do you use gesturelistener?
@PedroOliveira the Documentation is available now
@Abdellah thanks :)
Welcome
16:27
I would disable it after the first click
@petey nope
and more system images
bb: how would you enable it again?
I've been reading some SO answers and seems like it's not guaranteed to be called for the fragmentmanager
always in onResume?
what about when you rotate the device? it called then?
16:28
that depends on the action linked to the button
have rotations turned off for now :P
heh
lets say the case is starting an activity
use a count when onClick, number++ if one or greater it disables the button, but resets when you go restart the activity
you adding another fragment or replacing?
16:30
replacing a full screen fragment with another full screen
onPause of the first activity
reenable them in onPause.... hm ok
documentation url is working now
the material theme is backwards compatible to v7, nicee
2
5 mins ago, by Abdellah
@PedroOliveira the Documentation is available now
16:31
ok, I have to hit the road riding home.... enjoy the weekends!
bye
have a great one warren
appcompat-v7 will be the material support lib
read that yesterday somewhere
bye bye!
bye Warren, enjoy the weekends!
guys have a nice weekend
bye
16:33
bye warren
bb bye, nice weekend !
bye bb
@Ahmad it's very hard to use WTF against me
16:35
15 mins ago, by Ahmad
seriously wtf
@RED_ So no MaterialSherlock, eh?
Abdellah: I have no idea what you want me to do now
Collecting profile pictures is, wtf-worty.
haha guess not
I do it with a good background
that's not the point.
just shut it.
Is this new?
Since when can sites send you these alerts even if you're not currently on the site?
that's awesome!
I just noticed the new Yosemite trash can.
16:38
@Ahmad Just lol
My life is noticeably better.
ikr?
looks so clean.
I like this new blurring trend
4 mins ago, by Ahmad
Collecting profile pictures is, wtf-worty.
going to agree with that one
It's deleted.
-_-
Google wants to make their own SO
16:42
lol
I hate Google right now
is this for free?
if they are going to do that, just buy SO and be done with it
I think it's more like a one on one session thingy
it's not April 1, what?
16:43
Doesn't make sense that they create this lol
Yeah you pay somoene and get to talk to them
some are free, some are not
why would someone do that for free?
murder returns 0 results, that's a shame...
I can't decide if it sounds more like SO or that help button that comes on the new Kindles
apparently it's more than programming
16:46
remember Google Wave? :)
Google what?
oh no wait
I remember now
lol
@TiagoAlmeida Gonna let you in. Welcome. Please read the room rules.
@Code-Apprentice Here's the link to the schools being in lockdown due to the robbery: blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/2014/10/16/…
Hi guys :D
yo o/
Also this looks pretty neat in the new Safari:
It's not so sluggish like the old tabs view
And also notice the stacked github tabs
looks neat
16:53
hi fellas o/
\o
I need some advice from a git master
Off to pick up pizza for a few of us. Yum!
bring me some
hey room rules page if offline :(
16:55
yesterday I created a new branch B from the master
I haven't committed anything yet on it
Tiago: oh, I will update that
Weird
then I switched back to master, edited and committed some stuff
today I switched back to branch B, did some stuff and realized that it's behind the master by a few commits
Ahmad, is there any reason we don't just use a github page for the rules?
16:56
is it possible to update it (to be equal to master) before committing these changes?
Yeah I think we should use github pages carl
gui: don't trust my word, but I think no

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