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10:00 PM
150k/42 million vs 75k/235 million
 
so its basically

white -> black
10x

black -> gay
100x
 
basically
 
alright im back lets see
I can't find a good study but it does seem that prevalence rates among MSM are much higher than prevalence among AA
What is said isn't wrong, it's just misleading
> However, the HIV prevalence among African Americans is also much higher than general population, yet there is no requirement for waiting period for AA people.
That is correct.
 
10:15 PM
yeah there is probably a statistical threshold where the waiting period is needed to catch new infections at a 99.9% of the time kinda thing
and AA don't fall into that threshold but MSM do
 
However we have no direct justification for why one rate is enough to warrant 3 months while another isn't.
 
yeah now that there's testing I'm not sure why it's there, it was 1 year but is now to 3 months
I think if the tests are accurate enough no one needs a waiting period
it may be though that early infections can be missed by the tests, if that is actually true it would make more sense
but then it would make more sense to generally wait if you had unprotected sex with a partner who you aren't in a long term relationship with
not just MSM
 
@DaveS it was changed from 1 year to 3 months due to shortage
@DaveS there are tests thats WP (waiting period) is much less, couple days or 1 month
 
not sure why you guys keep bringing up Alcoholics Anonymous
 
@DaveS yes, other countries such as Israel got rid of the waiting period and just added specific questions to questionnaire
like "have you had unprotected sex with multiple partners in last 3 months?"
I still don't support the 3 month ban but my evidence I was trying to use was flawed.
 
10:29 PM
but yeah I don't think it comes out of malice, I think it's a genuine attempt to limit HIV exposure to innocent people to the best of their ability with the data they have
even if there's a better approach I think it's disingenuous to call it homophobic
 
It's not purely homophobic I do believe it is in part homophobic.
If it helps the American Heart Association as well as many other groups do not support the 3 month ban and called it unscientific.
 
yeah it should be supported by evidence to stay in place
a study on hiv viral loads and the test detection threshold, rate of infection progression etc
find out how long you need to be infected to detect it in the test 100% of the time, identify risk factors, make an informed questionnaire and do that
but that takes money and we got stocks to pump and wars to fight
so 3 month ban it is
 
10:50 PM
@Mehdi LOL glad I helped. Honestly I think it kind of was just a misunderstanding. Someone made a somewhat ill-advised sarcastic remark and someone else presumably did not recognize the sarcasm.
 
I don't give a fuck about celebrating sarcastic remarks
 
Not something I see as a very big deal.
@DaveS FLAGGED!
 
oh no
 
Excuse me, but I am a Sarcasmist. Do not insult my religion.
We believe that sarcasm created the universe and every sarcastic remark is blessing from the great sarcasm in the sky. Amen.
 
Sounds super duper popular
and I mean that non sarcastically
 
10:54 PM
but was your clarification sarcastic?
 
no, everything I say is 100% genuine in an effort to never bless you with sarcasm
 
lol
 
Tim
11:05 PM
I could have all of you banned, fools
 
don't tread on mah freedums! I'm headin over to TrumpOverflow.
 
Sorry that one already failed
JBis got about halfway done with the prototype then moved on to a new project
o/ all
 
Is that why he stole free software?
 
11:20 PM
lol i remember that
it's funny how much i would do different if i started the project now
including probably finishing a prototype
i wasn't using any frontend frameworks and didn't know how to write a proper backend api back then
 
wait... this was about a real thing? I thought everyone was just making fun of everyone. lol
 
Yeah I tried to remake stackoverflow
 
Did you almost build one of those super shady sites that scrapes questions from SO and basically just tries to do SEO better than SO?
 
No
I am actually not really sure what happened to the code hmm
Ah found it
I also refused to use an ORM
At least I learned how to do things manually first
 

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