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4:00 PM
Gotcha, gotcha.
Will investigate box issues.
 
At the moment what you see on lxr.room11.org is all coming from opengrok01, because I'm still building the indexes on opengrok02, but I have a working config for the load balancing
 
here we go, I'm writing spaghetti code…
 
saucy
 
Anonymous
@Trucy trying to impress @Wes ?
 
@Dave have you managed to multiplex Joes both external internet connections onto his two vlans with the new router?
 
Wes
4:01 PM
@JayIsTooCommon he did indeed. hungry now
 
@bwoebi waiting on @JoeWatkins to install the router, available tonight?
 
oh
 
@JayIsTooCommon well, my code looks like a pizza topped with pineapple, so…
 
@Trucy what's the recipe?
I like pizza topped with pineapple
adds a bit of sweetness
 
:35657688 DE?
 
4:03 PM
wrong window
 
@Tiffany #pizzagate
 
@Tiffany 0: disregard common sense. 1: create a DB schema in one shot. 2: FUCK STANDARDS. 3: "this model is good, base your code on it".
4: ?????
5: PRONTO
 
@Trucy you should be a project manager
 
@tereško wow, that's harsh, even by your standards :(
 
Anonymous
4:05 PM
@Trucy by his standards, shooting you in the foot isn't even harsh
 
@JayIsTooCommon tbh I'd rather be shot in the foot than be a project manager
 
Anonymous
yeah good point
 
(well, I already managed projects, as in conventions)
 
I hate scheduling meetings with multiple people. Ugh.
I'm playing scheduling assistant tetris
 
@Tiffany I also like it. My GF looks at me with disgust when I order it though :(
 
4:09 PM
@Trucy I know people that don't like it, and I don't get it.
 
I love sweet and sour
 
oooh, yeah
 
together? ew
 
I do too
 
@Fabor found this
 
4:11 PM
And in France, only people from the northern part like it
 
Just got out of a meeting that started at 12:30
for non UK people, it's now 16:11
 
@Sean D:
 
@Sean But are you more synergized with the agile cloud now?
 
Today must be "shoot myself in the foot" day because I'm managing to piss everyone off unintentionally. I need to avoid all social interaction.
 
It was all about taking a fresh look at the IT dev process, so I hope it's going to help.
 
Anonymous
4:13 PM
@Tiffany you're probably imagining a lot of it. Once you get it into your head that you're pissing everyone off, you process interactions a lot differently. Or I do at least.
 
Chances are if your IT team are constantly telling you to not interrupt project work, then having a third party company say the same thing isn't going to do much probably
 
@crypticツ not currently, if I do anything, it'd be a hard fork
 
@JayIsTooCommon I accidentally pissed my boss off, it was the way how I was asking him a question and I was rude. Basically took my frustration out of trying to schedule a fucking meeting on him, which I shouldn't have.
 
@Tiffany best thing to do is apologise, then move along
 
yeah, going to in a bit, letting things shift a bit before I say something
I don't want to say something wrong again. :|
 
4:16 PM
Humans are prone to making errors
Your error was to being rude
 
Anonymous
@Trucy apart from me.
 
You can't fix this, but you can at least recognise that what you did was wrong, and that you'll try not to do this again
 
@Trucy making errors :P
 
@Tiffany for fuck sake english
 
@Trucy sorry :P
 
4:17 PM
!!plugin list phpsrcgrok
 
Command endpoints for plugin 'PHPSrcGrok' (enabled):
[X] Def - Retrieves and displays definition search results from lxr.php.net (Default command: lxr, Mapped commands: lxr)
 
@DaveRandom just tried switching ...
"it doesn't work"
 
@JoeWatkins switching?
 
but it's all plugged in now
 
4:18 PM
oh the router
 
yeah
 
I want to get the meeting scheduled first, before I say something, otherwise I'll probably get frustrated again.
 
@Tiffany don't be, it's english that's wrong :p
 
@JoeWatkins OK, can you connect one of the lines to the DSL port?
 
am I right in thinking I have to plug ADSL straight into router ?
 
4:19 PM
@JoeWatkins just plug one of the lines directly into the only RJ11 port
and keep the other one plugged into the asus
 
@Tiffany by the way, is it your first job?
 
so your internet still works
 
@Trucy first office job, but I've been here for 8+? years
 
Are you going to PHPConf Jay / Room?
 
yeah I didn't do that ... but expected the other line to come up ... looks like you have to use ADSL, you can't bridge like we done for asus ?
I have done that now ... dsl light is solid
 
4:21 PM
@Tiffany Oh I see, I forgot that you were ~30, sorry ><
 
Anonymous
@Sean UK? nah, should hopefully be going to SC though + a few other 11ers
 
@Trucy 😛 no worries
 
@JoeWatkins you can, but that was the one where I said I thought there might be an issue with the VLAN config
it was 50/50 on what the correct config would be
 
(fookin keyboard layout)
 
I definitely don't feel 30
 
4:21 PM
@JayIsTooCommon SC?
 
Anonymous
 
Ooooooooo
 
Anonymous
i'd recommend :)
 
@JoeWatkins OK cool, if you jack into one of the LAN ports you should get a 192.168.1.* address and a gateway of .1
 
!!issue Request for !!conf(erences) command
 
4:22 PM
 
@Jeeves Ta luv
 
@DaveRandom it's up
 
@JoeWatkins ok, if you log into the admin page (192.168.1.1) admin/admin
 
the fuck, SO looks different.
 
yeah done that
 
4:24 PM
@Tiffany it looks nice!
 
WAN2 is not coming up
 
@JoeWatkins go system maintenance/administrator password and set it to something you want
 
wait wait, you might need to login yet
 
if i open up 2 seperate script tags, can i declare a variable in one, and set it in the first script, and assign it a value in it second?
 
@JoeWatkins set it to something temporary that's not admin
then go to system maintenance/management and enable management from internet over HTTPS
 
4:28 PM
ok done
 
OK cool, DM me IP and pw
 
@DaveRandom @JoeWatkins can I suggest going to another room?
 
no, you may not
 
:-P
 
(if it's lengthy)
 
4:30 PM
although I will switch to twitter DM if you want
 
@Dave please write here, it looks like it could be interesting nevertheless
 
@Saitama I agree, just caught me by surprise. "wait, wtf is this header? am I on StackOverflow? Oh, I am."
 
:P
 
OK both up now @JoeWatkins
 
excellent
have you setup ddns ?
 
4:35 PM
@JoeWatkins you just kicked me by logging in, can you give me 2 more mins just to set something up?
 
woops, yeah, soz
can you do ddns, and put nevis in dmz
my fucking ips have changed and I just don't have the energy to phone bt today ...
 
@JoeWatkins do you really want dmz?
 
@DaveRandom yeah, so that tests can open externally accessible ports
right ?
 
@JoeWatkins would suggest a port range for that
 
let's pwn Joe
 
4:39 PM
ugh ffs I just booted myself
 
I was just considering a range
first and foremost, let's bring 80 up on both ips externally ...
 
@JoeWatkins I changed the admin ports to 8080/4433 and now I can't get in, think it probably needs a reboot to apply it
 
no response at 8080
 
just turn it off/on
simpler
OK yeh that's working now
 
So I left in a hurry this morning and I missed a present because I didn't go in the living room before I left. So everything is my fault and I'm in the dog house.
 
4:44 PM
I created myself a user so you can change the master admin pw now @JoeWatkins
 
Anonymous
@Sean do you have an iphone?
 
@JayIsTooCommon Android
 
I disabled the admin user from WAN
 
Anonymous
@Sean ah, not sure if Android has a middle finger emoji or not
 
Should do, Samsung has a one for it
 
4:45 PM
@DaveRandom is nevis up ?
 
Using a galaxy S
 
@JoeWatkins what's it's LAN IP and what ports do you want open?
 
I dunno what it's ip is, it was 192.168.1.251, but not anymore
oh no, it still is that
 
Oh is it DHCP?
You can do IP/MAC bindings but for a server you should probably just use a static
 
yeah, that's what I did do (binding) ...
it still has that address
but for some reason ssh@nevis isn't working
 
4:47 PM
what, on the LAN?
:-S
 
yeah
 
moment let me check the arp
 
just opening port 80 for now, and use ddns because I don't think addresses are static
oh and 22
 
k cool
 
I plugged in another cable for tplink modem ... can't seem to access that either, can you look thar please too ?
 
4:51 PM
@JoeWatkins need the auth key thingies for the ddns from google domains
@JoeWatkins into the LAN?
 
yeah
6
 
k will look
 
so how is dns going to work ?
 
@JoeWatkins the ddns thing?
 
yeah
won't let me add two A records for nevis
should I make you admin for domain like you did for room11.org ?
 
4:55 PM
r'ing tfm
 
can you give me a southern compatible response to that, you nearly fried brain ?
:)
pretend you're talking to the queen
just gimme email address
 
DM'd
@JoeWatkins I figured out a way it would work and now I can't remember what it was, will just set up wan1/wan2 for now until I remember
 
okay added, do magic
can you reverse them, so that wan1 on router is wan2 in dns ... going to switch cables round
or shall I just switch cables around quickly ?
 
@JoeWatkins can do it at leisure really, it's dynamic :-)
just let me configure them quickly first
 
okay cool
I got the tp-link btw
(I used wrong address ... because I'm thick)
 
5:05 PM
:-P
OK wan1. and wan2. now exist and are dynamically updating @JoeWatkins
 
@DaveRandom I rebooted them; let me know how it goes.
 
why do networks hate me ?
 
@JoeWatkins stop being ablist. You should say cognitively-impaired
 
@tereško I think I'm too stupid to say those big words
 
5:08 PM
ok .. I'm stumped
 
@JoeWatkins my fault, forget to set "all WANs" on the port forward rule
works now
 
yay
okay, now how do we do nevis ?
 
I'm thinking about that, I know I figured out a way it would work but I can't remember what it is
If we sort the static address issue out then the problem goes away, of course
 
something to do with cnames ?
 
WAN2 doesn't seem to change
It's only WAN1
 
5:11 PM
just coincidence ... they clearly haven't sorted static ips yet ...
 
the nevis. record was last updated 10 days ago and is still the same
 
I'll spend some time on the phone tomorrow
 
no worries
 
they haven't been rebooted in that long
 
well you just killed the connection though when you switched router
and we just rebooted it at least twice after that
 
5:12 PM
says name conflict if you try to add two cnames for nevis :(
 
Yeh you can't have a multiple CNAME record unless you fuck with bind config directly
it's not technically allowed but bind has a round-robin thing
 
so ... I'm in exactly the same position I was in before :(
 
oh that's what I was going to do
moment
 
evenin room
 
@JoeWatkins well no, both WANs actually work now
 
5:14 PM
well yeah, but nevis is still only able to use one of them
gonna ring bt and see if I can get any sense from them
 
joining a different SO room to ask a question specific to another language, but different people than PHP room :/
 
u know that feeling when u been coding for hours and finally it all comes together and works perfect, i just had that
proud of myself
 
usually happens after I take a break
 
@JoeWatkins Right I have now remembered what I was going to do, and I have not done it yet. What we do is install bind on nevis itself, and put it in charge of a child zone (ddns. or something), then cname nevis. to nevis.ddns. and which can use the round robin thing. The bind instance itself have have a name which is a dynamic A using a "WAN 1 First" update strategy, thus if WAN1 goes down it will propagate within a minute
It's complicated but it will work
Although if BT can get their shit together then we don't need to go through that rigmarole
 
god I fucking hate these people
 
5:20 PM
@DaveRandom that's.. nuts
 
@Leigh I couldn't have said it more eloquently.
 
@Leigh since it's only in charge of the box that it's running on it's fine. The only thing that will be affected by the connections going down is things that are destined for the connection anyway.
Although I concur that it is somewhat nuts
 
Tbh, these days I think nuts as soon as I see the word bind
 
DNS: it's a real bind
/me goes home
 
"if you go to whatismyip.com you can see your address"
 
5:26 PM
php -r 'var_dump(array_fill(-2, 3, true));'
array(3) {
  [-2]=>
  bool(true)
  [0]=>
  bool(true)
  [1]=>
  bool(true)
}
WAT?!?
… docs mention it … but … WAT
 
bcoz php
 
It's just the same insane behavior like [-2 => -2, -1, 0] produces
that's totally fubar
 
> See also the Arrays section of manual for a detailed explanation of negative keys.

*follows the link*
*ctrl-f negative*
0 results
:/ okay..
Ah
> As mentioned above, if no key is specified, the maximum of the existing integer indices is taken, and the new key will be that maximum value plus 1 (but at least 0).
 
5:45 PM
Where the fuck did the old black header go???
At the same time where github has a black header all of the sudden
 
@DaveRandom they gave me my static addresses, and I can bind to them, but it breaks external network access ...
 
"If start_index is negative, the first index of the returned array will be start_index and the following indices will start from zero (see example)." <--- WHAT. THE. FUCK. ?
 
@Sara yes, this.
 
Oh PHP, you never cease to surprise me.
 
me neither :-X
 
5:58 PM
I'd guess it's caused by the different behavior between add_new and insert_new
 
Locking session after regenerating id. Ideal?
 
This error message is also.. Weird?
 
hi
Is there any expert in cakephp?
I would like to have a support from cakephp expert
 
@bwoebi I'm guessing that changing this to the more expected outcome would be RFC material, right?
 
@pmmaga I guess so… or if not, it's at least quite borderline
 
6:11 PM
@KARTHISRV You probably best try asking on the main StackOverflow website, there's unlikely to be anyone who can help with that here :)
 
3 hours ago, by NikiC
basically Github and StackOverflow swapped headers?
 
Haha, yeah :)
 
Wes
didn't know zip was an OS
 
6:34 PM
@JoeWatkins what you mean specify the addresses in the router?
if you give me the addrs I will see what I can see
 
81.143.202.104 <- line 1, currently wan2
81.143.223.160 <- line 2, currently wan1
but give me a while, trying to roll php release
will ping when done
 
ok, I need to do $child->bed() anyway
I apologise whole-heartedly for using the word "okies", it won't happen again
 
I should hope not
 
indexing hhvm has still not finished :-D
 
omg
 
6:42 PM
it might be good if we could add nevis into the architecture to do the initial indexing step when new things are added...
 
still ... could be worse, your wife could hate you because you were sure you would be done working by now and would take her out ...
 
I'm sure PHP can wait until tomorrow
 
no, it can't, and I'm not done working yet either, still 2 reviews in q
 
my misses, on the other hand, has chosen to celebrate valentines day by going to a gig without me :-P
 
oh nice
 
6:44 PM
well it works well for both of us tbh. She gets to do a thing she wants to do, and neither of us have to do a thing that we can't be arsed with.
she got flowers + chocolate this morning so I have done my duty as a capitalist
 
yeah she got chocolates, and is terrible at flowers ... but they in fridge because she's sulking ...
everywhere we can walk too is booked up ... I'm so badly organized
I blame @PeeHaa and @JayIsTooCommon
 
I blame @PeeHaa, and Jay is, as you say, Too Common
 
he should change his name to that ...
or
Jay is, as you say, Too, as you previously pointed out, Common, as aforementioned
 
Yes, add a bit of Fry & Laurie to your name
he's so young, he probably thinks that's a drum & bass act or something
 
as he would say "innit brah" ...
new name suggestion ChavvyJayIsOnly12
okay, permission to break internet granted ...
 
7:00 PM
Looks like Wordpress' Matt responded to Scott
 
@JoeWatkins /me causes BGP leak
 
@Danack, thanks for the push for the RFC :)
 
What else am I likely to do on Valentines day.
 
Wes
/me receives screenshot of code rather than a paste
/me notices font is not monospaced
/me kills himself
 
7:34 PM
So this is interesting, an idle game built around the concept of reaching a goal, and beat a bot, by using javascript. IdleRoyale
Makes me miss battleinf though
battleinf was a better javascript tutorial game
 

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