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8:00 AM
@JayIsTooCommon There's a club, I'll send you a welcome pack.
 
@JayIsTooCommon the thing with buttons
@DaveRandom ooooh goodies! me want them too!
 
Anonymous
:P
 
they recently transitioned from rotary
 
@JayIsTooCommon Dialler is Noble Touchstar with SIP agents, internal PBX is Splicecom Maximiser. The former I detest with a passion but I have concluded that all diallers suck, the latter I know inside out because I used to be a PBX engineer and I have worked with that system for ~10 years.
Also one thing I will say for the dialler is that it's reasonably possible to make it do things it wasn't designed to, because you can really dig around in the guts of it pretty easily.
Also... why @JayIsTooCommon? You wanna sell me a new one? :-P
If you have any telecom related questions then I'm a good person to ask, if I don't know the answer I can probably point you at someone who will
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom :P No, I used to 'manage' a small Shoretel system, was just wondering if you were using the same. But I literally have no clue what you just said so I presume it's much more complex than Shoretel :D
 
8:05 AM
ugh, shoretel :-(
I hate those things
 
Anonymous
terrible system
 
Anonymous
with terrible support, terrible documentation and terrible API
 
There's a common thread throughout telephone systems (and to a lesser extend, networking gear) where they are either easy to configure or work properly, generally not both.
Because the people who understand how phones work do not understand how people think, and vice versa.
In my experience the Shoretel systems are actually neither, but I am friendly with a company who install them and their engineers assure me that it's possible to make it work properly once you've climbed the very steep learning curve of understanding how to configure it.
If anyone ever asks your advice on what to buy, tell them to buy Avaya. It a really robust system and it it's also semi-comprehensible.
 
Ekn
/me will be offline next 2 days starting in 10 minutes. 110670 has the branch link.
 
I personally love the Splicecom stuff as well, but it runs on embedded linux and it feels like it runs on embedded linux, it's not a system for people who are not nerds.
@Ekn OK well have fun :-)
 
Anonymous
8:11 AM
We had a third party company as well, and their reply to most things were 'Shoretel just doesn't allow that' - I think the worst case was when we asked for whisper messages during hold music, apparently this wasn't a feature in Shoretel.. which to me is a basic core CC feature. And they charged thousands and thousands for hacking about with the software.
 
going anywhere interesting or just "away" @Ekn?
 
Anonymous
I'm just glad I'm not in IT Support any more.. Very depressing job.
 
Ekn
@DaveRandom thanks, will do :-) yeah going to visit few places in Argentina (Tigre, La Plata, up till Cafayate if I get two more days off)
 
Anonymous
nice, safe travels !
 
@JayIsTooCommon So here's the thing about that: A PBX is not designed to be a complete call centre solution. None of them are. They will also support some basic stuff but in the majority of cases, what you need is dedicated kit for specific tasks. This used to annoy me but now I totally get it... nothing is good at everything. If you cram "features" into things, the overall quality of each component feature goes down.
 
Ekn
8:14 AM
thanks, o/
 
Mornin 'gain c:
 
@Ekn wow, enjoy :-)
 
^ Whatever he said
:D
 
@DaveRandom Has become like a father to this room. @PeeHaa is the wife.
6
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom Well we had their call centre package though, which also came with additional hardware so I presume that was an extension of the PBX? no idea. Didn't know enough at the time to completely understand
 
8:15 AM
@Ekn bon voyage o/
 
Anonymous
@Fabor How's the farm treating you?
 
Back in Chon Buri now. I honestly think I got about 30-40 mosquito bites over like 4 days
All on my lower legs too.
 
@JayIsTooCommon yeh I don't really know that system well enough to comment
/me showers
 
It was good though. I am a pretty good banana tree barber.
@Jeeves is the love-child FTR.
 
@Fabor I love you too :-)
 
Anonymous
8:17 AM
best title ever banana tree barber
 
@Fabor They seem to really like lower legs.
 
Yeah, I got some pretty prominent veins there too.
 
Mornings!
 
@Fabor I guess veins are bigger and closer to skin in legs?
 
Plus low body fat in my arms and legs. I'm a pretty good target.
 
8:20 AM
> You've earned the "Steward" badge (Complete at least 1,000 review tasks. This badge is awarded once per review type) for reviewing "Low Quality Posts".
 
@Fabor Yeah, they probably see like a red-white mark on your and my legs. :D
 
Here's my arm for example. They're actually worse than that as the camera doesn't pick them up so well. I feel like a walking dartboard.
 
Dam bro, can't miss that for sure
 
@PaulCrovella heh "low quality posts"
 
This is how you should feel when fixing low quality posts
:D
 
8:26 AM
@Slayther I don't fix them, I vote to delete them.
 
I didn't say you fix them ;)
 
and I remember that episode, those turds ended up pretty polished
 
Yeah, maybe too polished
It's still poo tho
 
\o Day 3 of SoapClient, things are making sense, got a clear direction to work on \o/
 
8:42 AM
Is there any reason why an XSD spec would be structured so that a complexType extends a simpleType but adds nothing to it? e.g.: i.imgur.com/XRiLnVO.png
In that image Q1TextType (complex) extends Q1TextContentType (simple), but the only addition is a little bit of generic documentation.
 
OMG, Functional Interfaces in Java are the bomb
wasn't there an RFC for adding them to PHP? I wanna vote yes.
Or am I late to the party?
 
Anonymous
ew.
 
Anonymous
removed?
 
user6779766
Guys got a situation.
 
Anonymous
oh noes
 
user6779766
8:50 AM
-2
Q: Why we get an error like Mysqli_num_rows() expects parameter 1 to be mysqli_result boolean given?

Harish KolliparatI have a php script which gives me the same error at different lines. i tried adding mysqli_result to it changing the $sql line out, but never worked out resulting new errors. i still wonder what possible thing i have missed i that code..? Just for reference here's my code:: <?php incl...

 
user6779766
need a little help with this..
 
@user6779766 Search the site instead
There are like 10000 dupes of that
 
at least
 
Anonymous
!!wotd
 
longanimity: patient endurance of hardship, injuries, or offense; forbearance.
 
8:52 AM
Longawhat
 
@user6779766 It basically means your query failed. Probably has a syntax error, read up in the linked question.
 
@JayIsTooCommon are you on a pc?
 
@Slayther nimity
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa yerrr but I tried yow shiz yesterday and it said it was blocked - am I being a noob?
 
@PaulCrovella Ahh. Thanks
 
Anonymous
8:53 AM
linky again, ill try
 
@JayIsTooCommon Really? My domain is blocked???
 
user6779766
@Oldskool will post a line of that code where i felt the error is , can you take a look at it.
 
Anonymous
no no console error for js, 2 sec.
 
Anonymous
oh not blocked, apparently i'm in strict mode. Whatever that means
 
@PeeHaa you fixed the trails!
 
8:54 AM
@user6779766 No need to do that, just read the question that was linked in your question (the one that duplicates it). The answer is already in there.
 
@PaulCrovella yeah \o/
 
Hmm.. Where do I find url to connect websocket to the chat server?
 
Anonymous
> Uncaught SyntaxError: Block-scoped declarations (let, const, function, class) not yet supported outside strict mode
 
@Slayther You can do a http request fo dat
 
Session hasn't been serialized.
Starting new session...
GET login page... 200
Parse HTML for key... random_string
POST login... 200
Serializing session... Done.
GET chat page... 200
Parse HTML for key... random_string
POST socket auth... 200
@PeeHaa To what?
 
8:55 AM
@JayIsTooCommon What browser are you on? I thought I run strict
 
user6779766
you mean the "How to get mysqli error in different environments?" question... @Oldskool
 
@PeeHaa if you turn fast enough you can break them again though.. mash the arrows to see
 
Anonymous
chrome, i'll do a goggggle
 
@PaulCrovella "known issue"
 
user6779766
that seems too complicated.. don't you think..
 
8:56 AM
@user6779766 yes
 
> Get the websocket URL by making a POST request to chat.stackoverflow.com/ws-auth with the room id and the fkey
 
@PeeHaa Just saw.. Nice!
 
That ^^ should give you back the ws uri @Slayther
 
@PeeHaa I did that. But I don't see it anywhere in the headers
 
@Slayther Pretty happy with 2 night work
@Slayther It's in the body not in the headers iirc
 
8:57 AM
@PeeHaa Ahh
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa Eh, why is it just me? stackoverflow.com/a/33001437/4781925
 
Wait, do I do POST or GET?
 
@PeeHaa Oh man, that took me too long to realise you can just pass through your trail, ha.
 
user6779766
@Oldskool i seriously didn't understand a bit in that question..
 
@PaulCrovella Currently I am doing onkeydown which is a stupid thing to do. Going to see whether keypress at least fixes some of it
@Sean Yeah collision detecting is the next thing on the list ;)
 
8:59 AM
Ohh I got it!! THANKS @PeeHaa
:DD
 
Wes
goddamnit the ear is clogged again
 
\o/
 
Woooo finally
 
Wes
also mornings
 
Been struggling since yesterday
 
8:59 AM
hey @Wes
 
For 5 hours, I was posting "key" instead of "fkey" lol
 
Anonymous
/o\ @Wes maybe it's not water then
 
@PeeHaa Looking sweet though!
 
@JayIsTooCommon Lemme check the compiled js. There may be one place that doesn't enforce strict
 
user6779766
<?php
include("db.php");
$username = $_SESSION["username"];
$sql=mysqli_query($Cser, "select * from comments where username = $username");
$comment_count=mysqli_num_rows($sql);
if($comment_count!=0)
{
echo '<span id="mes">'.$comment_count.'</span>';
}
?>
 
Anonymous
9:00 AM
kk
 
@Sean Tnx!
 
@PeeHaa what are you upto?
 
user6779766
what possible wrong in that code??
 
user6779766
@Oldskool
 
What broken browser are you using @JayIsTooCommon?
 
Anonymous
9:01 AM
Chrome Version 48.0.2564.116 (64-bit)
 
@user6779766 can I adviceyou to use prepared statements? :)
 
@JayIsTooCommon That's kinda ancient
 
user6779766
sure, i m open to suggestions.. @Naruto
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa fine. I'll update. Just for you.
 
\o/
 
user6779766
9:03 AM
earlier it was working fine.. untill i added the line $username = $_SESSION["username"] and `where username =$username.. @Oldskool
 
fwiw I will look into automagically adding of strict in build steo
@Naruto Dicking around in webgl stuff
 
@user6779766 That pretty much answers your question then doesn't it? Whatever is (or is not) in the username session key breaks your query. But again, read up in the linked question. It explains how to enable query debugging, which will tell you exactly what's wrong.
 
@PeeHaa yes found the link ^^ looks like slither 3D xD
 
Huh... Connection is already closed.
 
9:06 AM
What is most confusing for me is working in 3d space. My mind is just too stupid for that
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa that's fricken cool
 
@JayIsTooCommon It works?
 
Anonymous
yes sir
 
yay \o/
 
@PeeHaa smallest screenshot ever? And 3D isn't easy, but once you get the hang of it, it's pretty simple :)
 
Anonymous
9:07 AM
it's very cool indeed
 
@Naruto Yeah was probably the first hit on google I found :P
What is really hard for me is the math involved :(
I never liked that math guy to begin with
 
morninV2.0
 
o/
 
Mornun
 
\o
 
9:10 AM
People find maths difficult because it is inherently difficult. Or- the time to realize one doesn't understand Math is much lesser than any other discipline.
 
It is not, in fact, inherently difficult. It's taught in a wrong way.
Math should be visualization of theoretical constructs. As much as it can be.
 
Anonymous
I prefer the alphabet.
 
Then, applying those visualizations along with formulas to solve practical problems.
But schools suck at doing that good :c
@JayIsTooCommon :P
 
if you are able to translate from "math" to "computer code" that's enough
 
9:13 AM
@SagarNaliyapara Yeah, but schools should teach more visually.
 
ya agree with that
 
I understand most of it better than anyone in my class ever will because I can visualize it.
 
momring @Jimbo
 
Anonymous
@Saitama What's with those commit messages..
 
9:15 AM
@PeeHaa Why does it say "Connection is already closed." :c
 
@Slayther When does it say that?
 
When I try to open connection to it
Is that specific to my program?
 
Did you properly authenticate?
I never had that
 
Yeah
 
Do you receive any message before the connection is closed?
 
9:17 AM
I can't even start connection
 
@JayIsTooCommon RC - release candidate :/
 
It errors with that message when I try to connect
 
Can I see your code somewhere?
 
Yeah, but it's Python
 
That's ok. I forgive you
 
9:18 AM
Python is nice
 
user6779766
what is bind_parameters there?? @Oldskool
 
ty
 
Thank you
Sorry for headers, I could've made a function for that
 
no worries
Do you get the closed connection on send?
 
9:22 AM
No, it errors on create_connection(socket_url)
 
Where do I get last_event_time?
 
@jay did you try it?
 
Anonymous
No, sorry - in office :P @PeeHaa said he will though
 
oh alright :)
 
9:29 AM
stackoverflow.com/q/39468421/4670278 is anyone familiar with this kind of error...?
 
That's the most atrocious co... oh it's Laravel of course it is
3
 
:P
 
waiting for your response :P
 
@Jimbo Yes it's Laravel... related to migrating domain routing.
 
@Slayther I think I just use the current timestamp. Lemme check
 
9:37 AM
@SagarNaliyapara You just made up a sentence with keywords like "md5ing the hexagonal architectures of the inversion of cyclomatic dependencies"
 
@PeeHaa They use this
 
What's "migrating domain routing" :P
 
So I need to post to events
Unless that's not needed to make it work
 
ha ha ha @Jimbo right but it's understandable as technical person
 
@Slayther Oh yeah. That's probably better than my hack
 
9:39 AM
keyword is most important @Jimbo :D
 
@PeeHaa What's your hack?
 
so ... it's close to 13:00 here, and I am first developer at work from my team
 
@Slayther Adding a random timestamp iirc
 
Oh
Well, I see the request from Sandbox room
So I will just copy the headers
 
user6779766
i edited my code like this.. but it still shows an error..
 
user6779766
9:40 AM
<?php
include("db.php");
$username = $_SESSION["username"];
$sql=mysqli_query($Cser, "select * from comments where username = $username");
$result = mysqli_query($Cser, $sql);

$comment_count=mysqli_num_rows($result);
if($comment_count!=0)
{
echo '<span id="mes">'.$comment_count.'</span>';
}
?>
 
user6779766
error like.. Mysqli_num_rows() expects parameter 1 to be mysqli_result boolean given
 
user6779766
can anyone help..
 
@user6779766 I give up, the answer has been given like 4 times already.
 
@PeeHaa There is some key.. Idk where it got it from
 
user6779766
dude, i can't able to understand it..
 
9:42 AM
Sec-WebSocket-Key:pATSdwmx...
 
user6779766
man i tried it alot..
 
@Linus not sure if I should answer it or close
 
615
Q: mysqli_fetch_array()/mysqli_fetch_assoc()/mysqli_fetch_row() expects parameter 1 to be resource or mysqli_result, boolean given

iamjonesyI am trying to select data from a MySQL table, but I get one of the following error messages: mysql_fetch_array() expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given or mysqli_fetch_array() expects parameter 1 to be mysqli_result, boolean given This is my code: $username = $_POST['user...

 
@user6779766 please learn to use prepared statements
 
@Slayther Yeah that's part of the WS protocol
 
9:43 AM
Hm
I have to find where it got it
Unless it's same every time
 
IIRC it's what the server gives you on handshake
 
Who's spamflagging those questions?
 
@PeeHaa Hmm.. When though
 
@Cerbrus it is spam, therefore it should be flagged
 
@Slayther On handshake :)
 
9:45 AM
@PeeHaa I don't follow. Stupidify it for me pls. :P
 
@tereško Or just have a RO remove it.
 
@Cerbrus \which will not stop the user from spamming his latest question
 
what the hell!
 
9:45 AM
@tereško i think you should answer it or link to your answers he has some big misconceptions there you should remove it?
 
The user is deleted, @tereško
 
@PeeHaa Oh, handshake... Lol
 
:P
 
Oh, I see
@tereško So, how is that spam?
 
9:47 AM
anyone could please check this revision? stackoverflow.com/posts/39487127/revisions
am I crazy or is it absurd?
 
@PeeHaa Yeah, but that's a different key
It's what you get
 
If you have a custom reason for a flag, please mention it while flagging :)
 
But they also send a key while shaking
 
@TheLostMind lol
 
Via GET
 
9:48 AM
@Cerbrus repeatedly posting the same content is spam
 
@TheLostMind What's the fun in that? Just figure it out :P
 
@tereško It's not spam. It's a violation of the room's rules.
Which you have an RO for.
 
Anonymous
flagging always livens up the room, we should do it more often.
9
 
:D
 
I'm sure @TheLostMind will back me up on that.
 
9:49 AM
GET wss://chat.sockets.stackexchange.com/events/1/f2d1fdfd88... HTTP/1.1
...
Accept-Language: hr-HR,hr;q=0.8,en-US;q=0.6,en;q=0.4
**Sec-WebSocket-Key: pATSdwmx...**
Sec-WebSocket-Extensions: permessage-deflate; client_max_window_bits
 
@JayIsTooCommon - Flagging random stuff can screw things too
 
@Simone You are crazy
 
flagging is too common
 
@SagarNaliyapara No that's bullshit
@JayIsTooCommon
 
hi
 
9:49 AM
:P
 
Basically, don't use flags to enforce room rules.
 
:D ha ha
 
;-)
 
@PeeHaa for what?
 
Wes
who was flagged? i always miss the fun
 
9:50 AM
Like @Cerbrus mentions ROs can kick people if they think they are posting things that they don't approve
 
@Simone What make you think it's "absurd"?
 
How can I change symfony default url from localhost:8000/list to my_dev/list
 
i have been flagged so many time
 
And ROs can remove messages, as well.
 
@PeeHaa absurd is edit a question moving a point
 
9:51 AM
@Cerbrus tbf I can see why people spam flag reposts of reposts. Because it is spam cc @TheLostMind
 
still some time random pings gets into the picture
 
Wes
GUYS. WHO
 
@Simone And fixing a typo
 
@PeeHaa dinamically?
come on!
 
I personally wouldn't have done it with this though
@Simone Come on what?
 
9:52 AM
@PeeHaa should I e3xplain too?
 
WAT!?
 
Anonymous
creased
 
silence!!
 
Wes
did js give you cancer yet @PeeHaa? i should probably use es6 like @MadaraUchiha suggested. if i write Object.defineProperty one more time i think i'll die
 
@PeeHaa What product is it advertising?
 
9:54 AM
@Wes Yes totally. I am currently in the state of jumping from one wtf to the next. But I will get there eventually. Already learned a ton tnx to that lemonguy and neal
 
@Oldskool How can I change symfony default url from localhost:8000/list to my_dev/list
 
@Cerbrus Look up the definition of spam
 
By SO's definition, that is not spam.
 
@Wes +1 for ES6. It makes life so much easier, until something silently goes wrong during compiling, then it's a debugging nightmare
 
Anonymous
lol SO changes the definition of words now?
 
9:55 AM
It's a valid SO question (quality aside)
 
It's not about the question
 
Anonymous
> send the same message indiscriminately to (a large numbers of Internet users).
 
I haven't even looked at the thing because I just ate
 
He's posting the question here, a few times
Which is just a simple room rules violation
 
@Cerbrus Yes which can be seen as spam
Per the definition of spam
 
9:56 AM
It's not something you need to bother all 10k+ users on chat for.
 
@Exception don't use the internal webserver, but install a full server like nginx or apache
 
Just remove the message
 
it's spam or violation or rules?
 
Wes
@Sean thanks, that convinced me to stick to es5 :B
 
9:57 AM
chill guys guide.room11.org
 
Anonymous
The argument wasn't whether all 10k+ users should be bothered, it was the fact that it can be seen as spam.
 
@Wes Hahah, on the other side of the coin, sourcemaps help and it generally doesn't happen unless you're doing something really niche. :P
 
@SagarNaliyapara Don't wave the rules around when we're not breaking any
@JayIsTooCommon The argument is whether or not the "spam" flag should be used.
 
Anonymous
@SagarNaliyapara yeah, and read 10. of don't. :)
 
It shouldn't be, to enforce room rules.
 
9:58 AM
The amount of flags coming out of this room doesn't even warrant any normal user coming in here saying we are doing it wrong imo
 
A single invalid flag is a flag too many
 
Anonymous
oh my lord
 
This was 3 different messages
 
We are just going to have to disagree I guess
 
That should just have been removed.
 
9:59 AM
explain to the person what the better approach would be.
 
I explained it. You don't agree.
Nothing else to say
o/
 
Just don't bother every single 10k+ user out there to enforce your rules, it's that simple.
 

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