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12:00 PM
Alright, alright, settle down
 
@PeeHaa do room owners have ability to ban users ?
 
kick/mute
 
@tereško I can kick
 
@PeeHaa What he meant was "you shouldn't be flagging things you should kick over"
That's all
cc @PaulCrovella
 
@MadaraUchiha Yes and what I said was that I see why it was flagged, but I wouldn't flag over it myself
So there was nothing to kick for me
 
12:01 PM
feature request: we need to add functionality to keep track then
 
@PeeHaa And yet you've added your flag to it
 
@MadaraUchiha Yes because people were annoyed by it
 
Which is what prompted him to make his comment
@tereško Hmm? All room owners/mods gets notifications when they're in the room when someone else gets kicked
 
> Please ensure that random things aren't flagged here.
 
Which includes who got kicked and by whom
 
12:01 PM
@MadaraUchiha he royally sucks at communicating what he means then
 
That ^ is what makes me officially offended
I already explained it was not random
 
this doesn't sound like a thing worth arguing about ...
 
Alright, sounds like a simple miscommunication then, no need to get offended.
 
can't seem to get phpinfo to work.. checked php.ini if it's disabled but nothing.
 
@MadaraUchiha but we need a way to keep track of user activities, since your fellow moderators are against us using the flags for that
 
12:03 PM
@tereško You can't see flag history for other users anyway
 
but mods can
 
We only have history of when flags get validated
 
@tereško It's not that big of a problem in here tbh
 
And the user autobanned
 
being unable to use the flag system as a flag system just because some users are annoyed by it is kinda broken
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12:03 PM
since we can't relay on mods anymore, we need to keep the a 3rd party system, @MadaraUchiha
 
We also get history for kicks
So you can use those instead.
 
The amount of times users are spamming in here is manageable imo
 
@Gordon Honestly, I wasn't even here when it happened, so I don't even know what got flagged
 
Sorry @all I shouldn't have brought it up again
 
But flags are for spam/abuse, whereas kicks are for someone just being a general asshole/troll
And, while you're right, flags do cause system-wide noise
 
12:05 PM
@MadaraUchiha I wasn't here either. But I am not about this specific incident. People have been complaining about the flag system for years.
 
don't they require attention ?
 
I set up a trap because I was annoyed stumbling on the mod again in meta
/annoyance
 
@MadaraUchiha I flagged chat.stackoverflow.com/users/6779766?tab=recent for repeatedly posting the same questions
 
@JoeWatkins No, because most of them can be resolved by kicking the user
 
and the flags were promptly discarded , because repeatedly posting the same content is "not spam"
 
Anonymous
12:07 PM
SO newb - Why do 10k+ users get notified anyway? What can they do?
 
On the bright side: we are waaaay off from having a gallery room so we are doing ok
 
I don't know why people are so annoyed by the flag system tbh. If they dont want to handle the flags, they can just ignore them
 
@JayIsTooCommon accept/decline flag
 
Anonymous
oic
 
Anonymous
If it's accepted, what happens?
 
12:07 PM
I always decline, usually, if the flags are in C++ room
Then I go in and enjoy the drama
 
@Gordon Even if you want to handle it you get an out of context message
Several victims of that has been had
 
@JayIsTooCommon If enough users accept the flags, the user will get suspended for 30 minutes automatically
 
@PeeHaa yes, and then you click Not Sure and be done with it
 
Anonymous
Right ok, that makes sense
 
And 30 extra minutes for every message that gets flag validated
(as well as the message being deleted)
 
Anonymous
12:09 PM
I need to start bounty hunting again.. I want these drama alerts
 
posted on September 14, 2016

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

 
upgraded php from 5.4 to 5.6 , some scary shit right there
on a centos 6.5 final
 
@JayIsTooCommon 99% of the time it's just the word "fuck" or somebody saying "you are stupid"
 
I always click "invalid", and 95% of the time I get the (even more annoying) message at the top saying that I've been too slow to respond (usually minutes/hours after the flag).
 
@JayIsTooCommon you need to get to 3000 to begin being able to close question
 
Anonymous
12:10 PM
@PeeHaa fuck, you are stupid.
 
@PeeHaa naah, that only for 99% of flags you get
 
Now if I would flag that you would be gone
That's how the system works
 
Anonymous
:D
 
It's true
 
Anonymous
You're not tempted, are you?
 
12:10 PM
Neh. The truth doesn't hurt me :P
 
Anonymous
oh star instead, that works
 
>:D
 
Anonymous
:D
 
@Darius We're about to do the same over here. Any common pitfalls? Horror stories to share?
 
Yes censorship. deal with it
 
12:11 PM
1 min ago, by JayIsTooCommon
@PeeHaa fuck, you are stupid.
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Anonymous
xD
 
The love in this room
 
@pmmaga Follow the directions here stackoverflow.com/questions/21502656/…, then restart apache, behold a bunch of errors, then install the dependencies you need that are causing the errors, here's a list. webtatic.com/packages/php56
 
41 secs ago, by Jimbo
1 min ago, by JayIsTooCommon
@PeeHaa fuck, you are stupid.
 
well, when I mentioned, at the beginning of refugee crisis, that it will cause serious issues regarding terrorism, that was quite promptly censored :P
 
Anonymous
12:14 PM
@PeeHaa if it helps, after all the js stuff I kinda think you're clever..
 
@Darius Thanks! What about the PHP code itself, any unexpected behaviours?
 
@JayIsTooCommon That's a foolish thing to kinda think
Trust me
 
Anonymous
You're still a knob though.
 
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Q: Can we bring the <!-​- version --> syntax to Stack Overflow?

Ben LeggieroRecently, Documentation introduced the <!-- version --> syntax for wrapping an example's code and text. This is very useful for languages like Swift which drop and add a lot between versions. We've dealt with this on Stack Overflow by using headers, but it would be very nice to have such an enco...

Not sure if a great idea or just plain stupid and a pain to maintain
 
@pmmaga just a little, there are warnings popping up for stuff errors weren't popping up before and had to set error_reporting(0); till I can figure out how to solve them.
functionality wise, none that I can see though
 
12:18 PM
cool! thanks
 
!!eval $var = null; var_dump(isset($var));
 
Hmm.
 
@PeeHaa After adding the timestamp, I get the same error :c .. I can only try to use the auth the chat page uses. Will have to look how to get the key that needs to be posted.
 
umm.... what just happened here while I was away?
 
12:29 PM
@Slayther Hmmmm odd :(
 
Yeah
Idk what I could be doing wrong
 
Nothing really shouts WRONG at me while looking at your code
 
Yeah, I'm doing it like I've been told by Mr. Google
 
Do you guys turn off php notices?
 
@Darius No
@Darius Notices are errros and need to be fixed
 
12:30 PM
!!eval print_r( sscanf( sprintf( "%x", -2904619422007765044 ), "%x" ) );
 
[ 5.6.0 - 5.6.25, hhvm-3.10.0 - 3.12.0, 7.0.0 - 7.1.0RC1 ] Array ( [0] => 9223372036854775807 )
 
I don't get it, where could they be getting the key from... No cookies, no headers have it. The whole page doesn't have it. Idk
 
because that's oPHPvious! :P
 
lol
 
How would I avoid a notice then in a foreach loop foreach($items as $item){ if($item['url']){echo $item['url'];} }
like, sometimes it has a url, sometimes it doesn't, but it's giving me a notice
 
12:31 PM
!!docs isset
 
[ isset() ] Determine if a variable is set and is not NULL
 
isset? empty? array_key_exists?
 
ahh, gotcha, i never checked
 
It's not like you don't have any options there :P
;-)
 
php 5.4 didn't give me a notice about that, now in 5.6 it's giving me notices for that
 
12:32 PM
5.4 also did it
You just never showed them
 
I never disabled them though :( I thought I was being a good programmer and everything lol.
well, alright, thank you!
time to clean up some code
 
or another way to look at it, is that 5.4 hated you, and it's a good job you moved on ...
 
yep.
 
@JoeWatkins That's probably also true
 
I wanted the password_hash function
was doing it the lame way
my own random salt and other libraries
 
12:34 PM
Good thing you moved on :)
 
pfft, hamsters ...
 
@Darius have you seen this one: github.com/ircmaxell/password_compat ?
 
Nov 6 '14 at 20:43, by Joe Watkins
@PeeHaa I use a hamster ... every project I start, I buy a hamster (they are cheap, a few bucks only), I shave it, and I tattoo the configuration on it's belly ... the password is only 5 minutes away with a decent shaver ... I find it to be secure, but you have to weigh carefully the cost of hamsters against your security needs ...
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I have not, what does it exactly say? I just read it , but don't understand the use of it.
forward compatability.. with what?
 
polyfills password_hash
 
12:37 PM
you get the password_hash for PHP <5.5
 
ahh
no, i didn't see this, but oh well now :)
new horizons!
 
also, php 7 is a thing, while you are upgrading things ...
 
At least you are on a supported php version now
For at least a couple of months :P
 
php 7 , can't do it on my OS :\
 
what OS?
 
12:37 PM
nonsense
 
@Darius What's your os?
 
centos 6.5 final
 
Doesn't remi support that anymore?
 
you can always compile it yourself :)
 
Also why are you not on centos 7?
 
12:38 PM
6.7*
Old project, getting some quirks worked out. after it's done in the next month or two upgrading servers, and hoping to upgrade OS then
 
looks supported by remi to me, and that's not a real reason not to use the best software available ...
 
@PeeHaa could be handy, and don't have to maintain it at all if you don't feel like it.
 
php 5 is crap and nobody cares about it any more ... we are not sure how it works ...
 
lol. but what about all the php 5 written stuff?
 
12:39 PM
@PaulCrovella Well you kinda should maintain it, beause newer version are left out
 
won't 7 break it
 
"works" is always supposed to be in quotes when referring to PHP 5
 
not if it's non-stupid code
 
@JoeWatkins For me it is. If it's not a one click install I cannot be bothered most of the time
 
well for example, it's built on ZF1.12
i have no clue if ZF1.12 is built stupid or not
 
12:40 PM
@JoeWatkins problem is it's inhumane. I wouldn't want to put anyone through the ordeal of shaving a hamster.
 
and there's no way in hell the project can be reproduced within a reasonable timeframe if were to move to ZF2 or another framework
 
my OSS libraries still support PHP >=5.3 but I'll move them in batch to minimum PHP7 after 5.6 will be dead
 
@DaveRandom squeamish people may use a rabbit, when you invert a rabbit and lay it on it's back, it remains still ... much easier shaving and tattooing ... or you can invest in a hamster table, a product of my own making ...
 
@TomaszKowalczyk And instakill on the old version or are you going to backport?
@KlajdiDosti don't flag that please
 
aweosme zf1 is supported
 
12:42 PM
@TomaszKowalczyk is dead
 
nothing stopping me now
 
I am stupid
 
Anonymous
oh noes
 
Anonymous
/hides
 
as in, nobody cares about it, nobody is actively developing it as a language ... kill it with fire already, the time came months ago ...
 
12:43 PM
@PeeHaa nope, old versions will still work as expected, just no fixes and composer.json PHP ^7.0
 
@JoeWatkins if it's what it sounds like (a table made out of hamsters), sold.
 
@PeeHaa it's no different from the maintenance or lack thereof now for changes in versions, it just give a pretty indicator for when the difference is known and explained at the time of writing
 
@TomaszKowalczyk \o/
 
@DaveRandom THAT'S MY NEW PRODUCT
 
lol
 
12:43 PM
@PeeHaa
stay calm
 
@KlajdiDosti As opposed to?
@PaulCrovella Yes that is true, but imo currently there are no version "guarantees" in answers currently
 
when four things are going on, it's hard to concentrate on one ...
 
@JoeWatkins 5.6 seems not dead yet: php.net/supported-versions.php
 
12:44 PM
@PeeHaa bye
 
!!eval echo base_convert(base_convert(-2904619422007765044, 10, 16), 16, 10);
 
@PeeHaa ≥ 7 isn't a guarantee for all future versions either, it just means 5 sucks
 
user image
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12:45 PM
hahahahaha
 
haha
 
Lol :D
 
also what drama this morning
 
@TomaszKowalczyk I'm not wrong ...
 
12:45 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/1akzag.jpg
 
tooke me like 10 minutes just to read through the stars and related fluff
 
@Jeeves Err, context :P
 
so ... I was bored and started going through my batshit-people list: youtube.com/watch?v=PsTObhhCpws //cc @FélixGagnon-Grenier
 
And yes a better twitter client is on the works
@Slayther It's @Jeeves' twitter account. You have to image the context yourself! \o/
 
Sad story, you guys are keeping me company in this sad lonely room.
 
12:47 PM
@PeeHaa Lol, I can imagine what that looks like out-of-context
 
@tereško seems lovely. will only watch tonight tho
 
@Darius Could be worse. Could have been just @DaveRandom. Now that would have been awkward
 
@Slayther that's the thing abount @Jeeves Twitter feed, it's basically a selection of the starred messages list on Twitter. If it had context it wouldn't be as good.
 
Lol
 
@DaveRandom Ah, TIL then. c:
 
12:48 PM
@DaveRandom Nice timing bro
 
@Darius if you haven't got a cat (and so aren't a real programmer yet), you can look around the room for a spider - just name it, then it's your pet ... if the spiders hate you, you can go outside and look for an insect, or possibly injured bird, or some other easily caught small mammal (child?) and name that ... may need caging ...
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lolwat
<3 dogs
 
Anonymous
> (child?)
 
Anonymous
hahah xD
 
dogs will do
 
12:49 PM
xD
 
@JoeWatkins if you go for the spider option you have to go through the rigmarole of swallowing a bird before you can get to the cat though
 
Evenin'
 
lol
 
Tf am I readin Lol
 
@JoeWatkins now I know why I'm a programmer... we had eleven cats when I was a child
 
Anonymous
12:50 PM
ehhh
 
Anonymous
dogs > cats
 
^
 
very go fuck yourself.
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@JayIsTooCommon we had 3 dogs too..
 
^
 
Anonymous
12:51 PM
lol
 
Fuck very go yourself
 
@JoeWatkins I thought if the spider hates you and still eats your food it becomes a cat?
 
Anonymous
^
 
I am maxed out at 4 dogs ...
 
So instead of tabs vs staces it's cats vs dfogs nowe?
 
12:51 PM
yeah
 
tabs vs dogs
 
let's do that
 
Anonymous
@AlmaDo my god, that must have been an interesting house to live in :P
 
I don't think better, I think different ...
 
@rlemon I'll take cats in space
 
12:52 PM
I have cats too, obviously ...
 
Let's take tabs in space
Wait..
 
@rlemon it's spaces and dogs btw
 
@JayIsTooCommon true, I am a god
 
no, you must compare the two superior things Pee
Tabs and Dogs
 
12:52 PM
:P
 
cats
 
Oo kitty cat
 
my cat would probably still try to swat at him
 
dogs and space, that's for you @PeeHaa .
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa Bottom left looks like a potential trail :D
 
12:54 PM
dammit
 
purrfect
 
I have 3 dogs. All inside 1 body
 
@Slayther Like Nina Tucker?
 
@Saitama Err, something like that
(No idea who she is)
 
@JoeWatkins Yeah.. just found a hairy ass spider. Exterminated with shoe immediately, now bloody with a dirty wall. Named it Phil as the shoe landed on it.
 
@Saitama omg! too soon man
 
now I grieve for Phil..
 
sad story bro ...
you shouldn't kill stuff
 
Anonymous
@Darius Probably had a family..
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I'm going to hell for this....
 
Anonymous
12:56 PM
Minding it's own business
 
Anonymous
BAM - you end it's life.
 
@Saitama this series is so sad
 
It happens to the best of us.
 
Anonymous
@Darius via the worst
 
dem pings
 
12:57 PM
well, no ... no giants have ever come along and squashed the fuck out of a human with their footwear, or equivalent thereof ...
 
@DaveRandom wow much space such dog
 

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