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@JABFreeware I looked up the Mayan calendar, turns out what happens tonight is effectively the same as us rolling over from year 1999 to 2000, or June to July. There's no end of anything.
Except this marks the point where this world lasted longer than the God's previous attempts at a world did (old record was ~6500 years)
wtf... I thought I had a dead pixel on my monitor (because there was a pixel that was always white even though it shouldn't) but it only happens on my desktop wallpaper, if I move a window over it, it changes color =/
@Borgleader prank?
@MooingDuck Yeah sure, my computer's idea of an end of the world prank is a fake dead pixel...
dead pixels haven't been an issue in a while..
@Borgleader roommate? parent? virus?
00:03
@MooingDuck Well, there's really nothing saying the calendar would roll over (though there's nothing saying anything would end either). It's certainly a lot more logical to figure they just didn't bother figuring things further in the future than that they really figured that was the end of the world though.
Nobody has access to my desktop aside from me
So maybe virus
@Borgleader What about the one in front of you?
@Borgleader hundreds of them!
@Borgleader Assuming it was real, that would be a "hot pixel", not a dead one.
@JerryCoffin Ah yes that would be a more accurate term
@StackedCrooked That sentence meant no one has access to my desktop except for me
My english is not perfect =/
00:05
@JerryCoffin that's not what I read. They have K'in (1 day), Winal (month), Tun (year), K'atun (20 years), B'ak'tun (400 years), Piktun (5000 years), (and higher orders) and we're rolling over from the 13th B'ak'tun to the 14th tonight, setting the record for longest lived world. source
@Borgleader I just noticed your avatar is funny :D
@JerryCoffin page linked also makes references to several dates the Mayans did calculate past this time.
@MooingDuck The point, however, is that they nobody's found much record of them actually computing anything into the 14th era, so to speak. They tracked lots of celestial events (and such) up through now, but far fewer much after this (though for them, this was already so far in the future, they didn't compute nearly as much for "now" as, say, 1000 years ago).
@JerryCoffin wikipedia makes no mention of any such dropoff on the Mayan calendar page, nor on the 2012 Apocalypse page. (I believe there is fewer, but in a gradually diminishing sort of way, not signifying this date)
@MooingDuck Yes, that was what I was trying to say. Not that it was a sudden drop-off following this date, just that they paid a lot closer attention to their own time than many centuries into the future.
00:10
@JerryCoffin alright, I agree with that
Specifically, we're rolling over from 13.12.19.19.17.19 to 13.13.0.0.0.0 tonight
@StackedCrooked ^.^ Gangnam Style
00:23
@Borgleader TIL there are people who didn't know.
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Is the world ending today? :P
It ended yesterday man.
It's already 1:24 PM in New Zealand.
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Oh.
@Rapptz Mayans didn't live in New Zealand
The Mayans have moved on.
Mayans were in UTC-6, so... 5.5 hours
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How many hours do we have left?
Why am I getting this all of the sudden..
[Error 193] %1 is not a valid Win32 application
@Rapptz because "%1 is not a valid Win32 appliaction"
How helpful.
00:37
@Rapptz show more code and get more help
... What?
I'm getting this on CLI
user1174868
Hey gang
user1174868
sorry for the outburst
user1174868
I get bad test anxiety
@Jordan what outbusrt?
user1174868
00:44
DONT WORRRY ABOUT IT GOSH
@Rapptz o.o Seriously!? It's about to hit 1 billion views on youtube... how the hell do people not know
How do I fix this error..
the fuck
already tried the registry thing.
01:04
... but that's maaaaadness!
people are making end of the world jokes like there's no tomorrow
@Crowz Repost, Lame Pun Coon did it before you ;)
This is not even the original... it was just faster to look it up on 9gag
I don't like 9gag :\
In soviet russia, 9gag doesn't like you.
01:11
In Putin Russia, 9gag goes to jail for that.
Man...I listened to a song from the Mass Effect 3 soundtrack and now I wanna play the game again
Hi guys
Mass Effect 3 was cool. 2 was better
I'm asking you as programmers mates to help me with something life related....
Plese
Go ahead mate
01:21
What the fuck am I doing here?
@Crowz I think the soundtrack for 3 might be better however. Especialling "Leaving Earth" that song is so damn good (and sad).
@Jeffrey typing
@Borgleader True, the soundtrack was good. I liked the visuals in 2 for some reason, more of a visual person myself
I seriously mean it. What the fuck are we all doing? Hating on each other? Wanting to have sex? Program to distract ourself from the serious problem about having our life wasting...
Are you having another one of those life crysis things?
@Jeffrey, you're existing. You exist to worship a deity, if so inclined. Otherwise, you're here to better this existence for others, though that has "turtles all the way down" problems.
01:23
Yeah, I keep having them...
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Oh, that's a real question.
This helps me when I feel down.
You have to get over the fact that the analogy is a bit silly
I'm 20 and I don't know what to do with my life. I sometimes feels like I'm god. Gosh, am I the only one thinking "what the fuck is this life all about"?
You're about the 7 billionth. Not to take away your uniqueness, but that's everybody. Well, lots.
If you seriously think you're God, though (not just in a modern "every man is a god/is God"), then you might have a problem that needs intervention.
Life's not so special. Just lots of chemicals being silly.
01:28
I'm drunk, I've no problem facing that. But what the serious fuck are you all guys doing? You are just distracting yourself from what's serious: why are we alive, for what? from whom? this things are killing me...
I'll probably regret this conversation tomorrow, but this is what I think 24/7...
Unless you see a purpose outside this natural world (see my "deity worship" comment above), we exist basically to exist. It's an absurd existence.
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Life is Just there
We also exist to ponder the absurd nature of existence when drunk. That too.
I'm being flip, because typing, but I'm dead serious.
I don't see any purpose. I don't believe in God, so what should I believe in to make me happy?
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01:32
Oh dear
Do what makes toi happy
@Jeffrey what ever you want to believe in.
Do you need to believe in anything? Ok. Believe in being a good person. I love the word "mensch". Be a mensch. And have fun doing it.
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The purpose of life is the purpose you give it
@ell the purpose of life is to reproduce, to procreate , as all life does
01:34
@ell everyone always wants to ponder on a greater meaning, and the bible is a good book, good moral values ect, but look at how many life's have been lost over religion in general. It's really a shame that those that follow religions cant abide by them
Yeah, you are all right, you should give yourself a purpose and being a good person, and then what? I'll just stand there for years awaiting for my death... that's the only thing I can't think and talk about: death.
Good he's wearing a mask, @StackedCrooked. Gotta keep those lungs clean. Or IsThatTheJoke?
Remember the current date?
@Ell the greatest issue is everything is open for interpretation, and that indeed is a dangerous proposition
What, you can't be a good person, or have fun, once you hit a certain age?
01:36
We're all doomed! :D
@StackedCrooked LMAO
Everybody feels so far away from death that they don't even talk about it. It's like you all live forever...
We're not that far away from death. Could happen at any time.
We're delicate creatures.
Talk about it, but don't obsess.
Yeah, you say that but tomorrow, waking up, you'll just see another boring day...
(because that messes with the mind, and that's a bad thing, as a rule)
01:37
Existential nihilism is the philosophical theory that life has no intrinsic meaning or value. With respect to the universe, existential nihilism posits that a single human or even the entire human species is insignificant, without purpose and unlikely to change in the totality of existence. According to the theory, each individual is an isolated being "thrown" into the universe, barred from knowing "why", yet compelled to invent meaning. The inherent meaninglessness of life is largely explored in the philosophical school of existentialism, where one can potentially create his or her own su...
Yeah, @Crowz, that about sums it up.
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I don't feel far away from death
@MichaelPetrotta Tends to be what I believe. Also...
You know why I love programming? It's because it's the best thing that keep my mind occupied for hours without even noticing it. I love it because it takes my life time away thinking about virtual problems.
01:39
Solipsism () is the philosophical idea that only one's own mind is sure to exist. The term comes from the Latin solus (alone) and ipse (self). As an epistemological position, solipsism holds that knowledge of anything outside one's own mind is unsure. The external world and other minds cannot be known, and might not exist outside the mind. As a metaphysical position, solipsism goes further to the conclusion that the world and other minds do not exist. As such it is the only epistemological position that, by its own , is both and yet indefensible in the same manner. Although the number ...
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I'm the opposite, I wish it would just hurry up and come already :P
Yep, me too, @Jeffrey. And outdoorsy stuff, and conversation.
What is a "virtual problem"?
@Jeffrey Reminds me of the model for Dr. House's character. He needs the puzzle of medical mystery to keep his mind occupied.
have the world end anywhere
anyone?
@JABFreeware how would they tell you?
Oh wait, I see the horsemen now
01:42
@Crowz good point
@michael, I've lost friendly conversation 1 yeas ago, just when my best friend (who believed to fix the world, like me) just gave up and started to live like "any other"... that's the worst betrayed I've ever had...
@Crowz Oh, know where are you hiding?
I haven't heard from anybody in China in the last few hours. Therefore, they don't exist (invoking @Crowz philosophy), and the world is in the path to ending.
@JABFreeware no no the pestilence one is just asking for hay for his horse and water... what a nice gentleman!
... cough
@Crowz oops
@MichaelPetrotta okay, well it looks like I woulnt get my program done then
01:44
Find someone else, @Jeffrey. Someone real; we don't count. Do something fun and hook up with a girl (or boy), then confide what's in your heart.
If that's the worst betrayed you've felt, you haven't been very betrayed.
Oh yes, sorry for mentioning the possibility of "boy", for whomever flagged me as offensive.
Invalidated that flag. Seemed pretty silly to me.
@MichaelPetrotta, I do. But sex and orgasm are not enough. I just don't feel like anybody. I feel like "what the fuck?" every single moment of my life and I know nobody can answer that question. It's like being frustrated all my life that really makes me unappy.
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Find someone to Love then, not just sex
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@Mystical, I think you're a room owner. I don't hang out in chat too often; please let me know if this is getting too off-topic.
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01:48
@michael this isn't too Chatty St all
*at all
Esp. At this hour
@MichaelPetrotta Sex is on-topic for this room. So carry on.
@MichaelPetrotta, I really accept his decision to be like any one else. I can see why he is doing it. It's painful to be like we were. So he gave up. I won't... ever. I'll die by madness before living your boring life.
@Mysticial :)
You're not alone in that. If that helps (and it's helped for me), everything you're thinking about, everything you're tormented over, millions of others have felt the same.
I'm sorry guys. I really am. But sometimes I feel so lonely and un-understood that I just can't live any minute more...
I guarantee it.
01:51
@MichaelPetrotta, I know it's somehow gay, but thank you and anyone in this room right now.
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A: Best way to store 10 - 100 million simulation outputs from .net (SQL vs. flat file)

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Check out the first revision.
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@jeffrey definately not alone - and there Are lots of people that can help
And just to be careful, if you're literal about the "live any minute more", then you need to call a suicide prevention hotline.
I didn't dare to click on the link though.
I don't like saying things like that, because it sounds all Dr. Drew, but yeah.
01:52
Whoever is flagging can you please stop.
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Not me o.o
@MichaelPetrotta, I'm not going to kill myself. I'm not really the type. So don't worry.
@Mysticial "Chat with Iraqis" is what the URL is.
I just feel some constant pain in thinking about life. Death is scarier than some stupid pain...
Ok, good. But really, I won't say everyone has gone through this, lots of people live unexplored lives, but oh so many people are tortured by this. It's not just you.
01:54
@MichaelPetrotta, then why everybody is happier than me?
I challenge your assumption. People wear masks with grins on them.
People are less happy than you think. The girl you bought a coffee from this morning, with the smile? She cries in the morning.
@MichaelPetrotta, you might be right. But why can't I wear masks so easily while they can?
A mask isn't an easy thing to build.
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nd a mask isnt good, a real smile is better
I'm lucky, in part. I'm the programmer that likes to blurt out what's on his mind. People say, oh, that's Mike, he's just a typical engineer. So I can get away with not having to wear that particular part of my mask.
01:59
I couldn't live being unhappy and masking it all the time. I'm seriously not saying that I'm the "good guy" who can only be sincere and stuff. I lied multiple times, I'm no good boy. I just can't see me pretending all my life to be happy...
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My advice, care a lot less.about everything
That got me out of depresssion
@Ell: a mask that makes me sound like Darth Vader got me out of mine.
(CPAP)
@Ell, yeah, that's what I keep saying to me: "stop fucking caring! you can everything in this life, just enjoy it!". But I can't...
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I never could either
Then one night I though fuck it I'm gonna get drunk
And I did, and then after that night I stopped caring and turned into a dick
And everybody has liked me less since
...that's one approach...
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02:03
But I'm happier
But now Im happy, I can be a good guy again
...stalking Ell...
"This is exactly what I was thinking - I was just checking I was using best practices. I will leave this question open to see if I get any other responses. Thanks for your input!"
doesn't sound like a dick.
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Is that one of my answers/comments? :L
yep. picked a non-jerk comment from the first page.
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And im not a dick in the usual way, I'm still polite etc. But I have done bad things, take advantage of a girl
Well it wasn't even taking advantage
I just messed up, but it was by accisnet
I've gone trough some alcoholic state. I had drank every day for two years and I still think it was stupid and wrong but yet enjoyable.
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02:06
Accident*
It's just I've done some silly things as a product of caring less, but I've learned at least
I try to maximize karma. I don't always succeed, but I find that a good contributor to happiness.
That, and materialistic things like sleep, exercise, good food.
I imagine booze every day would cause a decrease, if only by way of liver cancer.
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Good food definately helps :P
I had cooler answers that I could ever expect. But I'm going to sleep right now, and then feel guilty for this conversation all tomorrow. Just don't worry and keep doing what you always do. Thanks for this 30 minutes Lounge lads. Bye
posted on December 21, 2012 by Herb Sutter

For those interested in C++ standardization and not already following along at isocpp.org, here’s an item of likely interest: An implementation of generic lambdas (request for feedback)—Faisal Vali This week, Faisal Vali shared an initial “alpha” implementation of generic lambdas in Clang. Faisal is the lead author of the proposal (N3418), with Herb Sutter and [...]

good talking with you, @Jeffrey.
02:11
@Feeds The hell are generic lambdas?
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@jeffrey night night :)
Well he was a pleasant chap :)
Oh looool I just noticed I replied to the RSS bot xD
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Haha that's funny :L
2 hours you guys!
@Borgleader A lambda that can accept different types of arguments instead of your having to specify an argument type. Bears the same relationship to a (current) lambda that a template function does to a normal function.
02:18
Ahhhh
nice
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I thought we could have templates lambdas already
@Borgleader ...so, for example, if you want to add 2 to every number in a vector, you'd do something like: std::transform(v.begin(), v.end(), [](a) { return a+2; }); and it'll figure out that a must be (say) int, because v is vector<int>.
That sounds pretty cool
So is the end of the world party over?
I'm alive. Am I supposed to be?
At least I think I'm alive.
02:25
It's only 9:24 PM
So 80% sure that the hats are the reason for the two repcaps I got today and yesterday.
There are hats you can get for voting.
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@mysticial no you're dead, this is heaven
And I wasn't the only one experiencing a spike in votes.
@Mysticial You're imagining it, but that's all right: the universe is a figment of its own imagination.
@Ell Hmm... doesn't look any different than before.
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02:26
You've been dead for many a year, didn't you know?
@Mysticial I maintain that it was my own brilliance, not a spike in voting! :-)
hmm...
@JerryCoffin Well, if you run down the top questions lists, you'll find that almost everybody got a sharp spike in upvotes these last 2 days.
@Mysticial I prefer my version!
@JerryCoffin So you had 90 sock-puppets and upvoted a bunch of the top questions?
:)
Its 9:30 over here
02:30
i wonder if we'd notice if the world rebooted
What is the last place on Earth to get to 12?
@Cheersandhth.-Alf I actually just woke up from a nap about an hour ago. So I wouldn't have known.
California, right?
@Mysticial Hmmm...I just need to get 90 IPs. To salve my conscience, I'll do it by taking over machines from one of the evil botnets, and just turn them all into up-boat bots.
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Or even if it saved and God played minecraft for a bit then loaded and resumes earth simulation
02:31
@DemCodeLines Alaska is west of California.
Oh, I forgot
so Alaska would be the last place right?
Hawaii
Australia.
Australia is far east.
:)
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@michael you look pretty kewl On your profile pic
02:33
Is it? Yes, you're right.
@DemCodeLines One of the last, anyway. The Date line basically snakes its way up, going right between Alaska and Russia, so I doubt there are any more time zones behind it anyway.
but Australia has already hit 12/21/12
I've been wrong all these years
Thanks, @Ell. There are cooler hats, but that one fit my profile pic perfectly.
02:34
@MichaelPetrotta How do you not have any hats yet?
I didn't even try and I picked up a few of them.
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I can't see the hat :( but just generally
Like the voting ones.
On SO or MSO, @Mysticial? On MSO, I have a few, but I haven't pursued them. On SO, I've not turned them on. Just being a grinch, I suppose.
@MichaelPetrotta You need to turn them on?
I don't think I ever did anything. They just started appearing.
Oh, you're commenting on my unhatted profile pic, @Ell! Thanks, that's a self-portrait at the top of Mt. St. Helens in Oregon. In the high res version, you can see the (unintentional) reflection of the volcano crater in my glasses.
02:37
huh y did i get noob hat
@MichaelPetrotta Now that sounds exceedingly cool!
Not sure about MSO, @Mysticial, but it asks me to turn them on for SO.
@Cheersandhth.-Alf You down-voted something.
I got that funny-looking yellow cake one for voting on the 16th. I didn't like it so I went and a did a few reviews to get a bit more variety.
02:38
yes i did, someone suggesting two-phase construction
And I think that's all the effort I put in lol.
@Mysticial I thought it was a candle...
@Borgleader Or yeah whatever...
:)
I have to click "I love hats" on SO. And truth to tell, I don't, not really. Put me in a baseball cap, and I look a bit creepy.
Well, I look completely stupid with that repcap hat.
I don't mind though. :)
Don't have much a variety to choose from anyways. :)
02:39
I'm very happy with my downvoting bowtie.
Fits me like a T. Bowties are cool.
@Michael take it you like Chevrolet too
I'm indifferent, I guess, @johnathon. Does the bowtie resemble their logo?
@MichaelPetrotta that IS thier logo, gold bowtie
@MichaelPetrotta Their logo doesn't really look much like a bowtie, but they call it one anyway.
@JerryCoffin True enough, but once you get south of the mason dixon line things get looked at a bit differently
02:44
@johnathon Otherwise stated: in the south, decent education is...rare. :-)
@JerryCoffin LOL, indeed, im one in a million..
oh. my. god. Netflix has drake and josh AND the angry beavers!
@JerryCoffin I wonder how long it'll take before Microsoft implements this in VS
what is microsoft silverlight?
@Borgleader Hard to guess -- right now it's strictly a proposal, and what's been implemented is only intended as a proof of concept.
02:57
Wikipedia loves you.
Microsoft Silverlight is an application framework for writing and running rich Internet applications, with features and purposes similar to those of Adobe Flash. The run-time environment for Silverlight is available as a plug-in for web browsers running under Microsoft Windows and Mac OS X. While early versions of Silverlight focused on streaming media, current versions support multimedia, graphics and animation, and give developers support for CLI languages and development tools. Silverlight is also one of the two application development platforms for Windows Phone, but Silverlight enabl...
@Crowz "was" -- "What was Silverlight?" At least as far as I know, Silverlight is officially dead (e.g., they recently killed silverlight.com, breaking many links in the process).
never got as popular as Microsoft wanted.
I want WPF in C++ :(
it's still there for WP7, but not WP8, correct?
oh, i didn't know that i had a defect report
this is how much can come of a simple SO question
02:58
Doesn't netflix use it?
@Crowz I think it does yes. Which is why it doesn't work on linux
Huh. I was wondering, because it seems pretty good

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