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12:01 AM
@Mysticial Or just make a new macro so you can't get the type wrong: #define typed_malloc(type, count) (type*)malloc(count * sizeof(type)). Now the C folk can't claim the cast is visually noisy or repeats itself, because the caller sees none of it and doesn't repeat anything.
 
unless you assign to the declared variable immediately, in which case you write the type twice
 
Eh, but you're either typing the variable name twice or the type twice.
 
sure
I'd guess a variable name change would be easier to do, but heh, it's C
 
I think the lesson is avoid C or something
I admit I do like writing C sometimes
 
yeah such issues don't change the fact you're doing C - the color of your bike doesn't matter when the ground is on fire, the bike you're riding on is on fire, and you're in hell
 
12:13 AM
heh
 
Has anyone ever had pastries with gold leaves on it?
We had some for lunch today. The gold is tasteless.
 
12:27 AM
I dont get the point of gold in food
"hey look my poop is golden"
like wat
 
What The Fuck Is This https://youtu.be/0ruKky8-sxc
in C++ Questions and Answers, 22 secs ago, by sehe
@Ramy I'd say it's pretty shitty of you to take credit for someone else's code.
Da fuck is wrong with that guy
 
I overpaid for my credit card bill, now my unpaid balance is negative
 
12:46 AM
@sehe woooow
@sehe he's using turbo c++?
what the fuck is that text editor
it's an abomination
 
@jaggedSpire I loved that text editor. It was the bees knees in those days
 
@sehe well it's not the first time we find out he's full of shit
 
With visual block selection.
@milleniumbug I'm getting fed up with it
 
@sehe it just...hurts my eyes to look at. Am I just spoiled?
 
@Borgleader Yeah, it's really weird.
 
12:52 AM
@jaggedSpire Welcome to India, where people are learning programming on 25 y/o IDE, and Dangerous Dave is still a hit in your typical primary schol
 
@milleniumbug ;_;
 
@milleniumbug When the IDE is older than you are, you know something is wrong.
 
tell me, it's not vim
also there is no use of fast computers if you are just learning to write 'hello world' programs
 
@sehe wow
 
@jaggedSpire Yes you are. QuickBasic, Edit.exe, Turbo {Pascal,C++,Prolog,Basic} all had this color scheme (sometimes with white on blue, other times yellow on blue).
 
12:58 AM
@Mysticial gold flakes aside, that looks tasty as fuck
 
You have to understand screens were text only, 80x25 and the colors really helped
 
@Borgleader delicious chocolate is delicious
@sehe ah
 
@Borgleader It is. I would've taken more than one if it didn't have any gold on it.
I have no idea how much gold is on each one. Probably not more than $1 USD? Those are flakes afterall.
 
Anyone know how @ThePhD's talk went? That was today right?
 
@Borgleader PhD says it went well
 
1:02 AM
:)
@ThePhD Did I tell you I was proud?
 
@Mysticial gold is $1.2k/oz right now. It's measured in Troy Ounces because Why Not, and this is what an ounce of gold looks like. Probably a touch more than $1, I think.
also probably not a terribly expensive amount of gold
 
I dunno. Can't be too much. Certainly not enough to brighten the color of my shit.
 
lol
 
But cool nonetheless. I've only read about these gold pastries. Never actually had one.
But as I mentioned before, the gold is tasteless so the thing still tastes like really awesome chocolate fudge.
 
incidentally, the answer to "which weighs more, an ounce of <precious metal> or an ounce of <not a precious metal>" is actually the precious metal. Troy ounces are how they're measured, and a troy ounce is 1.097142857143 normal ounces.
:D
The Imperial Measurement System: brought to you by Nonsense, Inc.
with thanks to Because We Hate You, Ltd.
 
1:11 AM
user image
12
(inb4 flags, 100% relevant though)
 
@Borgleader you need two values for the ounce/pound. "There are 12 troy ounces per troy pound"
cackles
 
beer through that helmet? classic ...
 
You could section it off into its own category, but no-one specifies they're talking about Troy weight when they refer to precious metal. It's just implied.
I may have been slightly obsessed with tracking gold prices in elementary school
slightly
 
@Mysticial touché :P
 
1:19 AM
actually, I didn't even graph it, just checked it every day for several years
When I started watching it it was only $258/oz
 
My grandma bought me jewelry with a diamond on it, it was expensive. I thought to myself 'why are you paying so much for a piece of stone?'
 
because it's shiny.
 
I seriously don't get why people gets so attracted to gold/precious stones
 
1 min ago, by jaggedSpire
because it's shiny.
 
so are broken glasses
 
1:22 AM
you think I don't hoard those
you would be correct, but I also don't hoard gold.
 
FOR THE HORDE!
 
I got over my gold fixation right around the time I developed a dragon fixation
curiously
 
@jaggedSpire You got into compiler design?
 
you'd think a dragon fixation would intensity a gold fixation but no
@Borgleader :P
the scaly kind with fangs and claws and wings and hoards
 
i see :P
 
1:25 AM
@Borgleader exactly :)
rar
I got so excited about Smaug in the Hobbit
 
@jaggedSpire 7zip
 
I never really got over my dragon fixation you see
@Borgleader heh
 
You can hoard a lot of different animals, but not chickens. Because then you are just a chicken farmer ...
 
I just learned how to pretend I don't have one
 
You should play Skyrim if you havent
 
1:27 AM
I really should
 
@Borgleader There should be plenty of dragon Anime.
 
I think I'll add that to my list of reasons to get a new laptop
 
@jaggedSpire I had a pretty good Asus laptop, until I dun fucked up and snapped the power pin :(
 
@Borgleader :(
 
Ben too lazy to order the part and get my colleeague to solder it onto the motherboard
 
1:29 AM
This puppy is a bit more than six years old now. The screen on one of the speakers is missing, the case is cracked in places, and the hdd failed a few months ago
otoh, I found a replacement hdd on amazon for $75 yesterday so
 
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230027
It was ~1300 at the time i bought it. Could run pretty much anything
I wonder what the newer versions look like
 
I'll see which one wins: my desire for a nice laptop, or my ingrained cheapness
 
@Borgleader Skylake 64GB of ram. GTX1080. 4k display. And costs more than a couple of gold leaves.
 
lol
 
@Mysticial lol
newegg.com/Product/…-34-234-298--Product
 
1:34 AM
maybe if you can nab a couple more of those brownies
 
SO chat cant even links
 
@Borgleader Watchout. There's a malicious ad on that page.
 
GL502VM-DB74 on newegg seems like a pretty close "equivalent", it has a sexy gtx1060 in it
 
Newegg fucked up.
 
@Mysticial There is? I dont see any ads at all :P
 
1:35 AM
there are ads on newegg?
er
I mean of course there's ads
 
@Borgleader It's random. I think one of the sidebar ads redirected me to a page that impersonates firefox. And asked me to download an "urgent update" which is a .js file. lol
 
wowww
 
@Mysticial oh wow
 
I have ABP & Ghostery
and i think bitdefender does some monitoring as well
 
I wonder how many site visitors to newegg actually see the ads they run
 
1:38 AM
I have adblock on too.
Interesting, the redirect doesn't show up in my browser history.
 
adblock doesn't work on my iphone
Still have to find out a working one
 
:3
When I got to work this morning my C:\ drive had 0 bytes left on it. I found out that there was 165GB of .etl files in my %appdata% that weren't there before. I blame a MS product.
 
@Borgleader I googled around, and it does looks like a malicious ad.
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz Design Rule Check :
 
@Mysticial Its weird though cuz I didnt see any ads at all, and we both have ABP
 
Ell
1:46 AM
Also, there is a nice video series on KiCad on YouTube called "Contextual Electronics"
 
oh nvm i have one this time
 
butcher bird came to beg for food, pigeons tried to push open the food bucket
 
@Borgleader huh
Hope newegg knows about it and is working on it
@Borgleader :3
 
2:38 AM
 
2:56 AM
fuck I'm getting that thing where MSVC throws an exception and I can't figure out which thread its coming from because its caught by some wind down thread...
Thats a known bug right?
 
3:10 AM
@Borgleader oooh prickly
 
Okay, I need to stop watching election videos... It's killing me:
 
It wall be over in a month
I'm also betting you won't vote
 
3:34 AM
@Mikhail Is there a registration deadline in Illinois?
 
10/11?
You might already be registered though
 
hmm
If not, I should be able to vote for California.
 
You can check here:
I can do you a favor if you want, just me your SSN
 
lol
Oh fuck. I need a valid drivers license/ID in the state to register. IOW, I'm forced to vote in California.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Do you use your real picture for your linked in? /cc @Borgleader @sehe
 
4:11 AM
I am sure that you can vote by mail
wait, you don't have a valid drivers license/ID??
 
Colorado has indeed sent me many, many mail-in ballots before I changed my voter registration to Missouri.
@Telkitty might just have one for California still
 
@jaggedSpire I have a valid drivers license for CA. The problem is turning into a tax thing.
I've been living and working out-of-state (in IL) for more than a year now. But I'm still using my CA drivers license.
 
doesn't that mean you might pay taxes in both states?
IIRC tax codes can apply from your former and present state if you don't show an honest effort to switch completely over to the new one
 
I don't have a car here so I'm not driving. So I'm violating the 90-day limit to trade my CA license for an IL license. The law says I can't "keep driving" after 90 days.
 
lol nice
 
4:16 AM
But I haven't been driving at all. So I'm clear of that. I can still use my CA license as an ID though.
The problem will get ugly if I register to vote in CA.
 
I know I switched my stuff fairly quickly because of the tax issues I'd read about
 
IOW, I shouldn't. Right now, I can prove that I've been in Illinois for more than a year now. My only ties to CA are my (unused) drivers license. And some (old) bank accounts.
But the moment I register to vote in CA, I'm fucked.
So I can't do that.
 
Either way I still need to get an IL drivers license at some point. But that'll probably be impossible in time to vote in IL.
 
unfortunate
 
4:30 AM
@JerryCoffin How long did it take you to get your shit transferred to CA when you moved to San Diego?
 
yeah internet is the best place for disclosing such information, soon tax office will be behind your butt, investigating ...
 
@Mysticial I don't remember for sure, but it seems like they delivered it about 5 days after they left Colorado.
 
lol, I should probably clarify the context. The government is always going to be slower than any shipping company.
 
also I have a couple hundred dollars tax return I have not claimed in California from some 10 years ago because I worked as TA there, now it's probably invalid to claim because it has been too long
 
Ven
hi
 
4:33 AM
mid
 
@Mysticial Working with the government is always a slow and error-prone process, but it'll be a relief when it's over I'm sure
 
@Mysticial Oh, you mean like transferring the driver's licenses, addresses and all that? Dunno exactly--quite a bit longer though.
If you looked hard, it wouldn't surprise me if there's something that still haven't gotten caught up.
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah, I would imagine...
I didn't really have to deal with any of that when I moved to Chicago. I had a new address so everything new went to that. My old address was just my parents' house. So no forwarding needed.
My drivers license is the only thing I haven't transferred yet. And I haven't needed it since I don't have a car here.
The days of transferring phone numbers are long gone with cell phones.
 
@Mysticial Yup--according to my phone number, I haven't left Colorado yet...
 
TIL Jagged and Jerry were neighbours
 
4:48 AM
heh
actually I'm pretty sure he was on the north side of town
I lived within two miles of downtown
and yeah, my phone's still got the Colorado Springs area code
Jerry is evidence that not everyone who lives in Colorado gets stuck in some sort of cult-worshipping mentality of the state.
 
@jaggedSpire He doesn't live in Colorado. :P
 
@Mysticial He used to, just like me.
He's taking the separation from Colorado rather better than I am, let's put it that way
 
You miss Colorado?
 
terribly
 
Aside from connections through Denver, I've only driven through it and stayed a night at Steamboat Springs. So I can't comment.
 
4:53 AM
everything here is just a little bit off
the absence of mountains to guide you, the plants, the soil, the taste and feel of the air, the time twilight lasts, the color of the sky
 
Why did you move?
job?
 
yeah
 
ah
I didn't want to leave the Bay Area. But the job was in Chicago. So I didn't have a choice.
 
nods
 
I should say, "the jobs that suit me the best". I had a job in CA.
 
4:57 AM
with Google, right?
 
yeah
 
What do you miss most about the Bay Area, if I may ask?
 
@JerryCoffin You also moved because of the job?
@jaggedSpire Every fucking thing. The weather, friends, family, the general familiarity with the place.
And no living expenses either since I stayed at home.
 
@Mysticial ooh, nice
 
Now I'm paying a shit-fucking amount of rent.
 
5:00 AM
ouch
 
@jaggedSpire Yeah, some of my colleagues at Google hated me for that.
 
@Mysticial lol I can imagine
I think the one thing I miss most about Colorado was that sky
it was just...
 
bluer?
 
They might've been more senior and making twice as much as I did, but all of it went to rent or mortgage.
 
a lot of the time the blue was so intense it hurt to look at
 
5:02 AM
@jaggedSpire Is there a lot of pollution down there in San Diego?
I know LA is bad.
 
in the fall, when the leaves on the trees would turn this incredible, vivid amber, the color would lessen in intensity a bit towards the very center, towards black
 
@jaggedSpire Stop reminding me of Jasper! I call Edmonton my home, but I absolutely love Jasper's terrain
 
@jaggedSpire Ah, yeah. There are no seasons in California.
 
san diego was a lot better than L.A. but that was a while ago
 
In Illinois, there are two seasons: winter and road construction.
 
5:04 AM
@Mysticial I live in St. Louis, Missouri. If I were in California, at least I'd be able to see mountains with a little effort. :\
the color, edged just that little bit towards space
 
@jaggedSpire Oh, I think I mixed you up with someone else.
 
it was a daily reminder that I was alive
 
sky here is very blue too
very easy to get sunburnt
 
and that I should appreciate it, because I was a few scant miles from near immediate death
The twilight in Colorado Springs lasts about an hour and a half on summer nights
the world just slowly sinks into a monochrome vision of royal blue
 
damn, the water that's provided for chicken is now shared by all other birds - pigeons, magpies, maybe butcher birds ... and chickens
 
5:09 AM
@jaggedSpire Ah, I know what you're talking. That's something I only see in national parks.
IOW, you like rural places. :)
 
@Mysticial yep :)
Cities are nice too. They have a beauty all their own, but the memories of sights I really treasure are natural landscapes
 
@jaggedSpire Yeah. I'm a city dweller now (not by choice). And I found myself to be extremely picky with views.
Problem is that a downtown residences are fucking expensive. And they're even more fucking expensive for a view that isn't somebody's bedroom. (Which I imagine some people actually want. But it's hit-and-miss on who you get.)
 
lol
 
The thing I love about Sydney is that you can have the convenience of civilization & the beauty of a big backyard, both at the same time
 
St. Louis is spread out enough that you can find a fairly quiet place for not particularly much. It's mostly suburbs, which makes commutes into and out of the city hell in the mornings and evenings respectively, but there are enough different places with work that you don't have to work in the city center
I work farther out of the city than I live, so I get to go opposite the flow of traffic, which is nice
on the flip side of the token, since it's so spread out, there's not much in the way of good public transportation
 
5:16 AM
The best views are the penthouses. But some of them are so high, where you can't see shit unless you look down. And it's uncomfortable to look down from the 70th floor.
 
most of the people working in the city center here catch public transport
 
There's two train lines and numerous buses but using public transport to get to my job, while quite possible, would quadruple my commute.
@Mysticial I imagine the view of storms would be quite expansive though
 
@jaggedSpire Oh yeah. TBH, I find the mid-level units to be better at night.
 
alas, I'm not quite crazy enough to go out to watch severe thunderstorms in the middle of tornado alley
 
Because you can see lights uniformly in all directions.
 
5:19 AM
@Mysticial nods
 
I love rural views, but I too am a city dweller. A nearby park and mall are sufficient for my tastes
 
having the tornado sirens go off once while on a hike was quite enough for me
 
I currently on a 42'nd floor unit. The view is great during the day.
It should be even better at night, but since I'm too deep in the financial district, the lights for all the nearby high-rises are usually off at night.
 
though the look on my face as I turned around and finally noticed the wall of solid black behind me must have been funny
@Mysticial ah, damn
 
I'm looking to move to another mid-level unit that's more towards the residential high-rises, but still has a good view of the financial district with the really tall buildings (Sears Tower).
 
5:21 AM
oooh good plan
 
@jaggedSpire Oh I bet. That would be terrifying. What's the standard tornado procedure when you're hiking?
 
@Aaron3468 Don't be hiking, I'm pretty sure.
the trail was unusually deserted that day
"lol everyone hates a little rain" I thought to myself, in a potentially fatal misunderstanding of everyone's motivation in avoiding the outside
 
@jaggedSpire The other nit I have with my current place is that there's a really tall office building in front of me blocking half the view.
 
@Mysticial oh, now that's a pity.
 
@jaggedSpire It's a rental unit so I'm nitpicking too much.
 
5:24 AM
in my defense back home thunderstorms are awe-inspiring spectacles that at their most dangerous toss high-speed wind gusts and lightning about
 
But the place that I'm looking at is to buy. That one I'm nitting a lot since. It's going to be expensive. And I intend to stay there long term.
 
nods
 
And by "expensive" I mean comparable to SF Bay Area expensive in $/sqr ft.
high-rise heart of the city. lol
 
so holy hell levels of expensive
 
yeah
But it's 5 min. walk to work. No transit needed.
 
5:30 AM
now that is incredibly nice
 
Walking to work is nice.
 
speaking of rent, I think my old property worths of $580 per week because every other 3 br house in the area costs at least $610 per week at the moment, but tenants are in financial distress so I kind of not able to raise the rent for a year or two unless they voluntarily moving out which I don't think it's going to happen.
 
@jaggedSpire Thunderstorms and high wind are also common in Chicago. Most of the high-level balconies are automatically locked during high wind.
You don't want to get blown off of the 60th floor viewing platform.
Or struck by lightning.
 
@jaggedSpire Haha, fair enough. It looks like there isn't a safety procedure outside; just lay on the ground and hope for the best
 
also mortgaged locked at average rate of 4.30% when prevailing rate at the moment is 3.9%, sigh ...
 
5:32 AM
@Mysticial a very exciting and abrupt way to die I'd imagine
3
 
Thunderstorms are fantastic to watch when you live on the plains :)
 
@Aaron3468 Yeah, in Chicago, it's pretty hard to get struck by lightning unless you're at least 50 floors up. And even then, the fucking Sears Tower steals off it.
 
@Mysticial IOW, don't be outside when high wind starts :/
 
From my current unit, I can see 3 of the 4 tallest buildings in Chicago. The only one I can't see is the Sears Tower.
During the summer months, there are thunderstorms all the time. And I have yet to see them strike any of the 3 towers I can see.
Because the fucking Sears Tower behind me takes all of it.
So one of the things that I want in a unit is a view of the Sears Tower.
 
Oh god, I can see how that's a problem. Maybe bring thunder-casserole to your neighbours across the building?
 
5:35 AM
heh
start a thunderstorm watching club
the park where I do most of my hiking/walks is centered around a lake
 
@jaggedSpire Perfect place for the first club meetings ;)
 
tornado watching in a penthouse meet up club
 
you can usually see thunderstorms come in over the water, flickering lighting from cloud to cloud and striking the ground
 
@jaggedSpire That's awesome.
 
@Aaron3468 extremely exciting in a boat
@Mysticial oh, yeah
there are usually somewhere between three and five photographers taking the last moments before it becomes a Bad Plan to be in the open to take pictures.
 
5:38 AM
@jaggedSpire You might like some of this photographer's work. I used to know her and she does a lot of storm-chasing and travel photography
 
@Aaron3468 oooh thanks!
 
^^ This is what I want to see.
Hasn't happened yet.
 
@jaggedSpire You're welcome! It looks like she doesn't keep all her photos in one place, so you can find her different accounts just by googling her name
 
@Mysticial oh man :D
@Aaron3468 nods
 
5:46 AM
There are lot of tall buildings in big cities in China. This was taken on the balcony of my aunty's place in Wuhan:
 
I love the way thunderstorms make the clouds move fast enough to give them a sense of dimension
 
user6438653
Hi guys, anyone here do node.js stuff, I know this is thr wrong room to be asking but no one's around in the js room.
 
Jan 30 '15 at 2:30, by Borgleader
"Hi I have a question about my retirement fund"
"Sir this is a convenience store..."
"I know but it's the only thing open at this hour"
 
5:50 AM
This one was taken at home 2 days ago :p
 
@Mysticial that car at 1:55 is noping the hell out of there
 
user6438653
@Mysticial lol.
 
user6438653
Bye.
 
@shad0wk Just ask your question in the Node.js room and wait a few hours. You'll probably get an answer
 
user6438653
Yeah, true, I'll do that.
 
user6438653
5:53 AM
Node.js room?
 
user6438653
Bye.
 
And if you need in-depth help (and criticism), a question on Stack Overflow is best.
@Mysticial That comment is the one that keeps on giving :)
 
I think we should harvest lightening and rain powers :p
 
the american southwest would certainly appreciate the ability to control precipitation
 
why would anyone want to see forests growing around vegas? :p
 
6:04 AM
I imagine the lack of water rationing would be very popular
 
Haha
Speaking of precipitation... It was fall yesterday, but today we had nearly 6 inches of snow x.x
 
haha
where do you live?
 
24 degrees celsius right now here
 
@jaggedSpire In Alberta, Canada. I know we have a reputation for severe winter, but it usually waits until halloween to get this snowy. We only had 2, maybe 3 weeks of autumn weather this year xD
 
so you are waiting for global warming >_<
 
6:12 AM
@Aaron3468 heh. I remember only a couple white Halloweens back home
@Telkitty and how is spring treating you?
 
@Telkitty Hoping. Normally we get a few half-inch snowfalls between now and halloween that melt away within a day or two. Nobody was ready for this (I only bought my winter coat 2 days ago when it looked like things would warm up)
 
rather comfortably temperature wise, although I had a bit hay fever
@Aaron3468 I have not see snow for almost 10 years
for some reason I thought you were still in uni @jaggedSpire
or did you just graduate
 
I've been out of college for two and (almost) a half years now
 
lol ... pension since 13
only in Australia ...
 
> Because of its power, the technique also affords potential for misuse.
@sehe damn you, now I can’t unsee it
 
6:28 AM
@Telkitty When did you first see it?
 
It snows in my hometown, so I first saw snow when I was a baby probably
but it doesn't snow at all in Sydney
and last time I saw snow was when I was traveling
actually speaking of which I saw snow some 5 years ago
when I was climbing the great wall in Apr
quite surprised
 
Oh, that sounds like fun
 
6:55 AM
I made a very poor decision in taking multiple branches of mathematics all in one term...
 
@Aaron3468 Which branches?
 
Well, that one didn't die
 
@Mysticial Right now Calculus, Linear Algebra, and Statistics. Let's just say the work is orders of magnitude greater than for courses which require essays.
 
@Aaron3468 Yeah, that's a lot.
I'd argue that basic calc is a prereq for stats.
Otherwise you can't integrate shit over the bell curve.
 
depends on the level of calc and stats
 

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