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13:00
Dean high-fives Ell
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Actually, it's a bit of a miracle this didn't happen before I guess twitter.com/Himaanshu9/status/679283471416582144
Interesting name clash (not the same Himanshu)
@sehe plz share your wisdom bear
on drive if possible
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@sehe Tiramisu
@Dean lol
Me in a new codebase http://vine.co/v/e0BYUwAvZPF
Very nice
13:05
floof
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yummy pie
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American Pie
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Cream pie
13:32
I have a dilemma
I want to grow my nails so I can play the guitar without a pick, but that's gonna make playing the keyboard more cumbersome
what do
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play with a pick
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get fake nails
where do I get fake nails
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google
do they stick
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13:34
yes
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they also tend to look really gay on men
I don't care
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@AndyProwl Aren't there rings that only go on the tip of your finger and act like a pick?
@Xeo Yeah I'm checking
13:40
> GCC in the NDK is now deprecated.
oh my
And a million FSF peeps cried out
GNOOOOOOOOOOOO
@JerryCoffin Yeah, I was looking at something similar
Don't you still need gcc to compile Linux though
@Prismatic it was coming, google's biggest regret with android is saying it would be opens source
13:45
@Mgetz Really? when did they say that
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@Ven I think Dyalog just looks at whether something is a function or not, but not whether that function is monadic or dyadic.
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      g ← { ⍵ × 2 }
      1 g 2 3
4 6
      1 (g 2) 3
1 4 3
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It just treats monadic functions as dyadic functions that ignore the alpha argument.
@Prismatic they didn't but it's been obvious from the abandonment of AOSP equivalents to the Google programs
nobody is maintaining most of AOSP anymore, it's all in GPS
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@Elyse right, that seems correct.
13:46
@AndyProwl Are you playing electric or acoustic guitar?
Acoustic
shit, my latex parser now became a priority for a cool symbol cloud on my thesis cover.
Can you even play acoustic with a pick? Usually, you need to play several notes at once, right?
and it can only parse greek letters right now.
@Mgetz I don't think there was a much better strategy available though. Now that it's extremely successful, they wish they had full control--but I think its success is specifically because it's open source and they don't have full control.
13:47
oh crapedicrap
And now I'm in the Lounge. Nothing will be done today. NOTHING.
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Play a guitar made of iron ore with a pickaxe.
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One of us, one of us. Heheheheheh
@JerryCoffin eh, I don't think they anticipated Amazon or Samsung doing what they did
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@Ven How do you write ternary function?
@fredoverflow Sure, you can play it with a pick, but yeah, for playing several notes at once it won't work well - unless you're strumming
13:48
@rubenvb If you'd like, I can kick you. The first few times it doesn't last very long, but if I keep doing it, they get progressively longer...
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@Elyse take a 3-elem list vOv
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How would that work with types?
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You need heterogenous vectors.
@JerryCoffin lol no man I'm joking
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13:49
Eww!
Pease don't kick me
That would be the worst thing.
@rubenvb Just thought I'd offer--it's the least a responsible RO would do, and once in a while I like to at least joke that I'm a responsible person... :-)
(that won't work with a pick)
@JerryCoffin Oh, the R stands for responsible.
@Prismatic oh, the NDK is still getting a lot better I see?
I thought they wanted to discourage that "crap" and promote their friggin' java "crap"
13:54
can I ask a question please?
@AngelusMortis you already asked
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Yes, on Stack Overflow.
@rubenvb Reducing the number of supported compilers seems like its a worse thing
13:56
@AngelusMortis You can, just make sure you've read the rules
Pretty sure I've come across more bugs and issues in clang on android than on gcc
@AngelusMortis Seriously: if it's honestly interesting, and something that requires real discussion so it truly doesn't fit on Stack Overflow, it can fit here. But (at least) 90% of the questions people try to ask here really would fit much better on Stack Overflow.
In the long run though I don't really care as long as Google doesn't start using a closed variant of clang
@rubenvb No. If it did, responsible RO would be redundant. I'm never redundant. Never, ever. Absolutely not. Not now, not ever. Truly not redundant at all.
@JerryCoffin Oh, the R stands for redundant.
14:02
@Abyx How do you know what you saw was napalm?
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{2*⍵}¨(⍳10)-1
1,{2*⍵}¨⍳9
1 xx*Z+<0..9
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Hmm.
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The second one is a hack.
@Elyse Absolute proof that they've gone too far.
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@Prismatic could very, very well happen :/
14:06
@Elyse flash backs of 2nd year dynamics
Android NDK Professional™ allows for the use of -O2 when you compile your projects! Only $499.99 / year
@wilx well it could be something more advanced with same effects
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@Elyse lol; just hardcode them all :P
@Abyx IOW, you are just guessing. I suspect you are not weapons expert either.
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1,2*¨⍳9 cool
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easy enough :)
won't work in GNU APL tho, because dieresis is buggy
14:12
@Ven Fix it! You have the source!
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(still hardcoding the 1 tho)
@wilx you imply I wanna touch at this old C++ codebase
Also, I soooo do not want to go out to buy the rest of the Christmas gifts. FML
@Ven Sounds like something you could improve! Even better!
@wilx yeah, I'm no expert. So it's not not napalm, it's another burning thing which makes a huge volume of fire and burns everything what was in it. Yeah, that makes difference.
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> error C4800: 'int32' : forcing value to bool 'true' or 'false' (performance warning)
This is still the stupidest thing ever.
Xeo
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14:14
@набиячлэвэлиь bool(intval)
@Abyx It does. The problem with napalm, IIRC, is not that it burns shit and people. The problem with napalm is that the remaining phosphorus affects foetus development or such.
@Xeo 0_0
How's that a warning
Somebody correct me if I am wrong.
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vOv
It's not a big performance hit either
14:15
Ah, precision issues, we meet again!
@milleniumbug They're still simpler (Chromium etc are terrible too)
Does anybody actually use the Gitter chat?
Many people
Somebody does
Otherwise it'd not be profitable
Or the devs would throw their arms in the air and yelled "FUCK THIS"
If it's online for months, somebody uses it. :P
14:28
@Xeo how much costly is the conversion as opposed to just doing != 0 ?
I'd say 3
@wilx ugh no. First, phosphorus is not a component of napalm, you can mix both for better effectiveness, but it's not necessary. Second, nobody really cares about fetus and other long-term consequences. NATO used shells with depleted uranium in Yugoslavia - you think anybody cared about what happens to fetus back then?
@CatPlusPlus oh good, i estimated 2.5 so I wasnt far off
@Xeo VC++ uses bytes for bools so it has to chop off bits
cat I found a gui lib
Have you tried it before
14:32
so
sup lounge
It has python bindings so maybe you can use it for whatever (I'm assuming python bindings implies C bindings)
Morning
@AlexM. workin' on my gui lib
you?
@Mgetz Who uses more than one byte for bools?
@Borgleader Alpha and PPC IIRC
14:33
@Prismatic just took a shower and getting ready to watch wagonhq.com/blog/twitter-tech-talk /cc @BartekBanachewicz
because they are very inefficent at operating on anything less than word size
@Prismatic No
seems my speakers will arrive with a one day delay :<
damn all these people ordering gifts
which speakers did you buy
@Prismatic pretty ones
14:34
the cheapest I could find that seemed to not be very bad
logitech z200 or sth colored in white
I used to have logitech speakers, they are surprisingly good
I just want an upgrade over my laptop's speakers for the rest of the holiday
why not headphones
ears hurt after a while
and I listen 24/24
well, minus the time I sleep
24 hours a day, 24 days a week
you mad man
14:36
Headphones suck
They are way more convenient... don't think I'd ever buy speakers again.
at home I use Creative GigaWorks T20 Series II
A convenient way to go deaf
I used to have Cambridge Soundworks... great line. Then Creative bought them. No idea if they are still any good
14:44
I want these
I only ever buy sennheisers
I don't like the giant AKG on the side of the caps tho
I bought in-ear senns and they were shit so I never tried on-ears
at work I use HD 202 II
what price range were the in ear senns in?
$80 I think
I use in ears CX 300-II Precision
and I can't complain
14:46
I bought these cheapo $20 random in ears and they were a million times better
I don't think I'll ever buy senn again
what does better mean?
They sounded better in every way
maybe you just got earphones that were easy on the bass and you expected it
Expected what?
extra bass
14:47
And why do you think bass had anything to do with it? The senns sounded muddy
I made that mistake with a pair of senns once
fine, won't argue further
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Keep buying those electric cars. Going to need a lot more fuel now for space stuff.
I don't even listen to music with a lot of bass in it
you know what you want
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75% of a Scandinavian park ranger's job is rescuing black metal bands that get lost in the woods shooting album covers.
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14:51
lol
a commercial yes, but still hillarious
@Prismatic I challenge you to find music (that doesn't just have a muddy mix) that sounds muddy on Sennheiser HD 800's (or even HD 650's).
What's the point of comparing professional headphones that aren't even in the same order of magnitude when it comes to price?
@Prismatic I'm not asking that anybody compare anything (though I am curious about this notion of "professional headphones" -- are they so beautiful that they're out turning tricks or something?)
15:04
I take 'professional' used in the context of audio equipment to mean equipment generally used in production of music
So if I say 'professional headphones', I mean equipment I'd expect to see in a recording studio
did you read reviews for your headphones though
because if the whole world thinks they're good and you think they're shit then...
Why are you so defensive about Sennheisers?
You sound like those people who get all flustered when you tell em that half of Bose's stuff is overpriced junk
iPhone 5 and up headphones, best headphones
hey, you were the first to explode
but my question was serious
did you read reviews before purchasing the product
When exactly did I explode?
15:07
not all sennheisers are good
I don't remember I bought them years ago
yea ok that answers my question
classic case of uninformed consumer picking stuff at random
This thing sounds great, even on a potato
15:07
if only we had a way to read people's opinions on products before purchasing them
@Prismatic I don't even have DAW software on my computer any more, but I do have a pair of HD 650's laying on top of it. :-)
White makes UI testing bearable
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That's racist.
15:23
I had these Sennheiser headphones, and I liked them, but they broke like pretty much every other pair of headphones I owned - the cable got bent and one side won't play
the only headphones that broke for me were skullcandies
but I did treat them kinda bad :P
lasted 1 year
@milleniumbug I got the wireless momentum, they are ok.
The noise cancelling is really nice.
had to tell someone about it
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15:31
lol, PHP's datetime formatting function supports Swatch Internet time
@JohanLarsson I don't trust wireless peripherals, mostly cause of lag, discharged batteries and interference
Using 22,7 out of 32 GB. Damn, I need to upgrade to 64 soon ahahah
@milleniumbug I share your view pertty much but decided to try any way and was pleasantly surprised.
Batteries charge with usb micro and lasts four or five days.
I must say, superfetch is really doing well under pressure.
I remember always disabling that when hdd usage was > 9000
15:34
@JohanLarsson Well, I guess with wireless headphones the problem of bent cables won't happen :D
Darth vader dancing on MJ beat it, in the video above
Also lags won't be a problem when listening to music
@milleniumbug yeah, that is the reason I decided to try + noise cancelling.
Hmm Qt can't display U+1D6FC worth a damn... Must be some underlying font config crap
I should add a font selector
> “Warning (for California residents only): Please note per Proposition 65 that this product may contain chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm.”
wut
15:37
Is it a label on C++?
probably on electronics like laptops
it's a repost D:
mysticial posted it first
birth defects are new though
but do you live in california?
15:39
No
not a problem then
good :D
> Swatch Internet Time does not observe daylight saving time.
excellent, DST is cancer
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It's timezone-agnostic.
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It's just incrementing an integer with modulo-1000 arithmetic.
Me module you == 0.
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wtf
The best advice I had when I started studying at uni..
"Understand how the professor grades. Like the real world, the academic world is not always fair. You need to understand who is grading you and what they are looking for. Oddly, if you actually answer questions as written, you won't get full marks from some teachers. Some professors expected more than the answer. Some only accepted the answers taught in class as opposed to other factually correct answers."
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@KhaledAKhunaifer yep. I learned that lesson the hard way this semester
lol effort in college
15:56
@Lalaland I once almost got an F, because my answers were 100% correct but the last two lines of the solutions were swapped
it's quite funny how people think getting 4.9 out of 5 means you're smart. It only means you write answers in the way that make the professor happy, for majority of them
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@KhaledAKhunaifer Well, in my case, the professor was a really big stickler for design patterns.
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Use a std::function instead of a giant template method abstract class thingy? Instant C.
@KhaledAKhunaifer it's also quite funny how people think getting more than the passing grade means anything :A

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