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11:00 PM
@Borgleader <3 <3
 
here's back_insert_iterator en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/iterator/back_insert_iterator. Where's the cast op, please?
 
I should really learn to touch type
 
@exitc0de lol
 
@Nooble I two finger type at around 90wpm I think :I
 
@exitc0de Weirdo.
I can do 117 :D
 
11:03 PM
I'm learning to type properly with a website called keybr, but capitals, brackets and dots are so hard
 
the important part is not being able to write with all ten fingers, but the ability to write text without looking at your keyboard
 
I can write without looking at my keyboard with two fingers, but I won't be able to get any faster
And I want to be able to type at 110-120
 
@exitc0de lisp and colemak for you
 
Lisp looks horrific
What's so good about colemak
And also, I would have to move all my keycaps or buy a keyboard with custom or blank keys
 
What so good about your mom
 
11:08 PM
What's wrong with wasd
*qwerty
 
lol. you suck :)
 
Oh and I wouldn't be able to play CS or Dota
Would throw me off so much
 
^
 
Because, everybody knows, computers that have been used with unnatural keyboard layouts are gay forever tainted and won't log on to Steam ever again
Hi sehe, thanks for the detailed answer, it has been really helpful. I've just realized that the url might contain an hyphen or other punctuation marks. I've tried something like +(alnum| punct ) but it's not working. Do you know how I could do it with Spirit::qi without doing +(alnum|char_('-')|char_('_')|char_(',').... ? — user2035548 26 mins ago
Sigh. I hate the pattern of comments that goes "Thank you! You have been so helpful! Let me demonstrate how I completely ignored your answer."
 
I'd have to commit pretty heavily before I even tried it out, switching my keycaps would take ages.
 
11:10 PM
@exitc0de git commit
 
I like the concept though, I hate typing full stops etc
@Nooble :O
 
It's worse when the demonstration is in the form of a follow question that doesn't link to the previous, but includes the code from the helpful answer but mutilated enough to be useless
 
Ell
@sehe I think the "you've been helpful" is just trying to be polite
well, they appreciate the time you have put in
 
The website doesn't really show where you put your fingers
 
@sehe this is true
 
11:12 PM
Nah, it would just take too long to adjust, ah well. I can't be bothered to relearn where all the keys are :L
 
Autocomplete is a simpler way to achieve more productivity in programming than learning to type
 
@nick I just know that, even though I never play games and wouldn't know what Steam is in the first place. I mean, ew! Have you seen those keyboard layout deviations? It's repulsive. It should be forbidden. At least in public areas
 
hmm
apparently it takes nearly 1k lines of bash script to build Boost from a script.
 
@milleniumbug orthogonal. I wouldn't argue it's simpler.
 
yes, ergodox needs to die
 
11:14 PM
@Puppy Are we bashing boost bash scripts now
 
@sehe well, if you can get both, then sure
 
@sehe Yep.
 
@exitc0de This whole keycaps thing is shamefully unrelated of course. It'd be utterly useless to switch to any keyboard layout /for proficiency/ if you intend to look at the keys
 
oh no wait, it seems that that script installs a fuckton more than just Boost.
let's just ask the Boost website how to do it.
 
@Puppy What script, mate
 
11:16 PM
@sehe In order to learn where the keys actually are before I start I would have to do that
 
this random script I found by Googling how to install boost from a script.
 
ITT puppy installs viruses using random scripts off the web.
Blames Boost for it.
Good job, puppy
 
...erm, the same way you would do this under windows?
 
well, for one I didn't actually run it
and for two, the extra stuff is not viruses, it's just more libraries, and specific versions of GCC.
 
Beside the point
@Puppy Good for you :)
 
11:18 PM
run bootstrap, run b2 with desired settings and you're set
 
Ell
@Puppy installing boost from source is very easy
on linux
 
@milleniumbug s/with desired settings// optionally
 
Ell
$ cd path/to/boost_1_59_0
$ ./bootstrap.sh --prefix=path/to/installation/prefix
$ ./b2 install
 
Shhh
 
it would be easier if I was not downloading and installing entirely from a script.
 
11:20 PM
How so
 
well, for example, I'm not wholly sure where I should actually put the resulting installation.
maybe ./b2 install just figures that out for itself?
 
If you remove the dollar signs, that is your script. Add a wget -c URL (or curl) in the first line
 
Ell
also what distro are you on? You can probably just do sudo apt-get install libboost-dev
 
@Puppy If you /don't/ install, you can just use it in-tree (perhaps delete the intermediate objects)
 
Ell
@Puppy if you're not sure, you can do it with superuser rights and not give an installation path and it will figure it out
 
11:21 PM
@Ell The CI I'm looking at using is on Ubuntu. 12.
 
Ell
@Puppy oh kk
 
@Puppy Do you have root? Just put it in /opt/CI/boost or something
 
@sehe Think so.
@Ell Ubuntu 15 has a libboost1.58 package I could use :(
although I don't actually remember if Wide requires 1.59
 
If you do not, just put it in-tree:
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A: How to compile boost async_client.cpp

seheE.g. clang++ -std=c++03 -Wall -pedantic -g -O2 async_client.cpp -o async_client -lboost_system -lboost_thread -lpthread Assuming your system's packaged version of Boost (or pre-configured include & lib paths). To make use of your custom built Boost library tree in ~/custom/boost: clang++ -std...

 
Ell
yeah in-tree would be fine
 
11:24 PM
ah
 
@Puppy what are you using? (chances are: no problem)
 
the example for installing from source says "Use /usr"
@sehe variant, optional
a few other bits but ISTR it was about variant and/or optional's move semantics support which was a lot more recent than I expected.
 
Wow, I used to be question banned on stack overflow
 
Ell
@Puppy Where?
 
11:25 PM
Woop woop.
 
Ell
I mean, which example? from the boost website?
 
 
Ell
Oh
 
> Enlarge you profile now, take the blue pill!
@exitc0de why are you surprised?
 
I'm not really
 
11:26 PM
11/11/2015 25:00
 
But it takes a lot of work for someone as shit at programming as me to get rid of a question ban :). Thank God I did eventually.
7
 
@JohanLarsson lel
 
consistent :)
 
Everyone was dumb once
 
@exitc0de Congrats. And I starred it just because it's the first evidence I've seen of q-bans actually disappearing in the wild
 
11:27 PM
and the really fun part will be figuring out how to build LLVM and Clang correctly.
 
Ell
@Puppy that isn't hard either really
you just need to read what flags you need for RTTI or w/e
 
@sehe I don't really know how I did it
 
user406009
@Puppy Trying to compile them on Windows? Best of luck then.
 
@Lalaland Oh I do that shit all the time
 
Oh I edited a lot of questions and answers
And I changed all of my questions and answers
 
11:29 PM
@Puppy I've done that only once or twice. No reason, really. I just use the packages
 
@Ell Sure, but the super fun part is that you can't just install them, you need the real include paths to their internal headers.
 
Ell
Huh. Really?
They should install their headers to the appropriate locations
 
yep.
they do.
 
@exitc0de So maybe they unbanned you in the hope you stop touching other people's posts :)
 
they just don't classify the headers that Wide needs as part of their interface.
 
11:30 PM
@sehe All my edits were approved :)
 
Ell
I've never developed with llvm/clang, but I've built rust before which should be equivalent?
 
Are unbans manual?
 
@Puppy ah
 
Ell
unless wide uses something it's "not supposed to"
 
I asked them to kindly reconsider not being morons, but they declined.
 
11:31 PM
@exitc0de I was joking. Get it. By the way, here's a link that just has your name written on it! Wanna see?
 
@sehe Eh
 
Ell
@Puppy wouldn't it be better for wide to -Iclang_root and then you manually do the hard part of finding the obscure headers?
 
I am amazed that some people insist on being morons
 
Why not
 
(I've been waiting to use this, but you didn't give enough reason, so here it is without reason)
 
11:32 PM
@Ell I do find the required paths of their internal headers. But you still need the real location of the source code it was built from.
 
Ell
@Puppy Right
but that should be easy if you're building from source in the first place right?
 
@sehe Good one.
 
@Ell Yes. That's why he does it, presumes
 
right, but only if you're in an environment where you actually know where shit is.
and not for example on a CI server that some company is allegedly going to provide for free where I don't know anything about that environment.
 
Ell
Yeah
 
11:33 PM
@sehe No thank you.
 
@exitc0de lel :) There's a stronger one, that Robot likes to use, but I don't approve of it
 
Ell
but you know where you download the source to
 
@Puppy just poke everything :P
 
@Ell Well I could put it in a particular place, but I don't know where is the correct place and where is going to get randomly deleted when their drive starts running low.
 
11:34 PM
'This edit does not make the post even a little bit easier to read, easier to find, more accurate or more accessible. Changes are either completely superfluous or actively harm readability.' :)
 
Ell
@Puppy the server randomly deletes stuff? o.o
 
Ouch
 
dunno
it's their environment.
 
Ell
Just for a reference, I put my sources in /usr/local/src and install my things to /usr/local/ (that way they get put into /usr/local/include and /usr/local/lib)
it also means I can keep the stuff I have compiled from the stuff the system has downloaded/compiled
 
Does listening to music help you program?
 
Ell
11:37 PM
@exitc0de not really
doesn't hinder, neither
 
It probably depends a lot
On the music
And the person
I can't work in silence at all.
 
@Nooble send it to bzns.patrunjelu@gmail.com
 
Unreal is too difficult and Unity is C# and messy. I'm going to have to make my own engine. Oh dear.
 
lol
forgot to run my install script with sudo, no wonder it didn't work ;p
ah to be more specific, I simply failed to sudo a thing that needed sudoing inside the script.
 
Ell
@exitc0de oh dear indeed ;)
 
11:42 PM
Is it even possible to start a new line in the about me of edit profile on stack overflow?
Seriously, I want to write on a new line why is this impossible?
 
@Nooble tho Bjorn sure if I Stoll know the password to my email so if you have Facebook find me at alex.marginean1 or ark like th hat
 
okeydokey
now I can download and install at least some of Wide's dependencies from a script.
that's a start ;p
 
I have the best username :)
 
@exitc0de looks reasonable
@exitc0de it makes Jack a dull boy
 
@sehe What
 
11:47 PM
@exitc0de It's only on invitation
 
> Since time immemorial, PC gaming has been regarded as a walled garden, a tree fort palace that only those with the hottest tech toys (and a masochistic love of complication) dare infiltrate.
 
39 mins ago, by sehe
lol. you suck :)
 
When retards take the virtual pen.
 
@sehe What is
 
Entering linebreaks is
 
11:48 PM
@exitc0de RIP
 
No but genuinely how do you have linebreaks on a profile
 
@Mr.kbok Can elaborate on what you have said there?
 
@exitc0de lolwat "Unreal is too difficult" -> "I'll make my own engine"
Makes sense. Makes total sense
 
user406009
@ElimGarak But look at that prose. You can weep at its beauty.
 
@sehe Making a game engine is easy right? :)
@sehe Would actually be a good learning experience :P
 
11:49 PM
It is. Carry on
 
@exitc0de Have you considered a luxurious career in botany instead?
 
@ElimGarak No actually.
@ElimGarak Everyone was bad at programming once, come on.
 
No actually!
@exitc0de Everyone has considered the lure of botany, come on
 
But some people stay bad at programming while others improve. Are you sure you belong to the right category?
 
Apr 19 at 20:50, by milleniumbug
Mar 29 at 22:51, by milleniumbug
@Cinch Teach a man to make a game, he'll make a game. Teach a man to make a game engine, and he'll never make neither an engine nor a game in his lifetime.
 
11:50 PM
I backed an unreal tutorial course on kickstarter hopefully that's good
I'm trying
 
I am going to take a stab in the dark, but are you 13?
 
Nope
 
20+?
 
Nope
 
11:52 PM
Close
 
let's do a binary search then
16
 
Jun 7 '13 at 10:51, by WTF look at my points
?
 
why 2^4, that's rather random ...
 
@milleniumbug Indeed.
 
user406009
That's young.
 
11:53 PM
ITT Exit Ode is of random age, according to titties
 
I started learning Unity but halfway through I decided I wasn't enjoying, I like programming but I'm terrible at it. Been trying to learn C++ and or Rust, read a tonne of books and watched some lectures and now I know a tiny amount of C++ and a bit of Rust.
My problem
Is I want to make something
 
is your face
 
Dear Lounge, Today I Learned that `/**/` comments don't nest in C++:
> [lex.comment]/1: The characters /* start a comment, which terminates with the characters */ . These comments do not nest.
 
By the way, Exifode is a nice nick
@Puppy t t t t too late
 
:)
 
11:54 PM
damnit
 
weird
 
try Game Maker
 
Thats insulting.
 
why? it's a game engine
 
Your mom is insulting
 
11:55 PM
I like C++, I just gotta learn more.
I'm going to learn some SDL/SFML
 
((so meta))
 
Game Maker is boring
 
there are commercial games made in it, see Undertale
 
I don't want to be a game designer, I want to be a software engineer/game programmer
Thats not the point
I like programming
 
user406009
@exitc0de I would highly recommend learning another programming language first. C++ is a mess.
 
11:55 PM
> some SDL, so FML // FTFY
 
So, awfully beginner programmer, no knowledge of linear algebra, no knowledge of calculus, no knowledge of signal processing, no knowledge of light transport theory (or its physical underpinnings), no simple games under your belt, no knowledge of animation systems, no experience with digital content creation tools, no experience animating, texturing, rigging, no experience with game logic programming and especially creating primitives for the previously mentioned.
 
user406009
Learn python.
 
I learnt some Python
Hate it
I'm enjoying C++.
 
user406009
@ElimGarak you can do 2d games pretty simply.
 
@Lalaland I get the feeling he wants to do Crysis 4.
Or Call of Duty Black Ops 5. Or something.
 
user406009
11:56 PM
@exitc0de stick to 2d then. Much simpler.
 
you misspelled crisis
 
I probably will.
 
Cr ISIS
 
@exitc0de then I suggest you spending the next 5 years reading programming related books and practice by making things using things you have learnt
 
@sehe Terrible game, terrible name :D
 
11:57 PM
I don't want to make a game like Cyrsis, I'm not stupid
 
user406009
@ElimGarak or a physically realistic dinosaur mmo.
 
I don't even ever want to make triple A games
 
@ElimGarak You never had a little sister, right :)
 
@Lalaland no, it has to be a science based dragon mmo
 
11:58 PM
> using std::cout;
oh dear.
 
sacrificing std::goat
3
 
@exitc0de yeap new, but acceptable for a 16 year old
 
@Puppy It's ok! It's a single main.cpp anyways
 
No, I'm going to stick with C++. I like it.
Or Rust
But Rust has no game dev tools with good documentation
 
user406009
11:59 PM
@ElimGarak to be fair, even triple a games screw up simple things.
 
user406009
See that stupid Fallout 4 physics thing.
 
I want to make a roguelike game
That's a bit simpler.
 

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