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2:01 PM
@Morwenn inb4 every base is 10
 
@набиячлэвэлиь it got cold
 
@rlemon eat faster
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow $10_b = b_10$
 
Ven
@Elyse yeah, you can also go so far as to use ⍺⍺ and ⍵ ⍵ :(
also, I'm using GNU APL, so no :
 
user1804599
lol GNU APL
 
2:06 PM
in Discussion between sehe and Superman, 1 hour ago, by Superman
by the way you can follow me back. So that I can PM you on twitter :P
How'bout >nope<
 
user1804599
GNU GPL is the MSVC of APL implementations.
 
I might follow people. But not if they threaten DMs ahead of time
 
Ven
@Elyse wow rude :(
 
user1804599
I wish bool were spelled boole instead.
 
boob
 
user1804599
2:08 PM
After George Boole.
 
it's for boolean, not boole
 
user1804599
> Boolean ring: a ring whose multiplicative operation is idempotent.
 
I know some of those words
 
user1804599
haha @Ven look what I found
 
user1804599
 
Ven
2:11 PM
@Elyse Elysese diagrams
 
constexpr std::string boob = "(.) (.)";
 
@Elyse typedef bool boole; problem solved
 
@AndyProwl was right - boob
 
X left join Y = X V (X A Y)
 
@Elyse lacking xor
 
2:14 PM
@Jefffrey why constexpr
 
Why not?
 
std::boob should be a thing
 
string is not a literal type
 
@Jefffrey step it up: "( o ) ( o )"
 
Xeo
@fredoverflow using, pleb.
 
2:15 PM
@Mr.kbok ( o Y o )
 
@AndyProwl With the new relaxed rules for constexpr you'll be able to have constexpr std::string constructor IIRC
Otherwise just have char const* const and be done.
 
@Xeo using boole = decltype(false); if we're into C++11
 
@Jefffrey Not sure I understand. What new relaxed rules?
You mean C++14 rules? Those are for what can appear in a constexpr functions
 
@fredoverflow using boole = decltype([](){return true;}());
 
std::string does not have a constexpr constructor
 
2:17 PM
Is C++ ever going to get terse lambda syntax like x => x*2 or something?
 
boost lambda got close to that
 
@AndyProwl Not only
 
@Jefffrey Ok, what rules are you referring to?
 
struct X { int x; constexpr X(..) {} }; is allowed to be constructed and used in a constexpr
Those are the relaxed rules
 
I think that was possible since the beginning
 
2:20 PM
Maybe not std::string specifically
 
but std::string does not have a constexpr constructor
 
@AndyProwl Nope
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow Not terse enough.
 
It was retroactively changed later
 
2:20 PM
@Jefffrey Er, yep.
 
@Jefffrey Read what you link to :P
 
@fredoverflow the BEST technique is to let my GF open them
:D
 
@Elyse Fine, what about _*2 or (*2)? :)
 
@rlemon I'm not gonna get a GF just to have someone open my grenades.
 
2:22 PM
@fredoverflow I don't recommend that being the sole reason :P
 
> Just got off the phone with my girl friend. she asked what I was doing. I told her I was waking my pomegranate and she told me I could go blind doing that.
 
but hey, might work for some
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow better!
 
@Jefffrey That's not relevant for your example.
struct X { int x; constexpr X(..) {} }; was allowed since C++11. There are no non-literal types involved.
 
also the DR you linked to does not declare a constexpr variable
 
Ven
2:25 PM
@StackedCrooked what's a ring buffer. I was told to ask you :v
@fredoverflow you might want to look into boost.phoenix's arg1 and stuff
 
Erm, I suppose it's like a circular buffer. Or something like this if it must be fast and thread-safe
 
Come the fuck on Andy
 
Nope, still not relevant.
 
why are you upset at me
 
@AndyProwl he sucks
 
2:28 PM
You are better than this
 
@AndyProwl fuck you andy
 
lol
 
@AndyProwl <3
 
@Jefffrey Maybe you're overrating me
 
Ven
@StackedCrooked thanks o-o
 
2:28 PM
@AndyProwl IRTA overeating
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Welcome back :)
 
@набиячлэвэлиь
 
mmm
 
@TonyTheLion Hullo
 
@набиячлэвэлиь oh wait lol IRTA "IRTA overheating"
 
2:29 PM
@AndyProwl That'd be overheating
 
@набиячлэвэлиь How is Windows 10?
 
@TonyTheLion CAN"T GET THE FUCKING WATERMARK TO GO AWAY ASDASDASD@ESCJSAIOSJC
Frustrating a little bit
 
lol watermarks
 
@Jefffrey Yes, that changed in C++14, but is not related to your original example
 
@AndyProwl You mean std::string?
 
2:30 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь There used to be a registry key to change that.
 
@Jefffrey Yeah
 
Or the one with the custom struct?
 
Actually both
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ha! Googling intensifies
 
@AndyProwl Yeah, probably not.
 
2:31 PM
that's just about constexpr no longer implying const
 
@AndyProwl oh god :P
 
For the requirements std::string has, 99% no
@AndyProwl Yes, but you are not required to have a literal type
You are required to have a type that satisfies some requirements
 
hello ladies
 
One of which is that it has to have a constexpr constructor and only literal type attributes
IIRC
 
> The constexpr specifier shall be applied only to the definition of a variable or variable template, the declaration of a function or function template, or the declaration of a static data member of a literal type (3.9).
 
2:32 PM
So the second example I gave (with only 1 int and a constexpr constructor) would be fine
 
7.1.5/1
 
What does 3.9 says?
 
@Jefffrey But has been since ever.
 
maybe the definition of what constitutes a "literal type" changed, but not the fact that you still need a literal type and not the fact that std::string is not a literal type
 
@AndyProwl It's not a literal type, but you could theoretically have an immutable std::string like interface that just stores a char const* const.
And then you would be able to use constexpr my::string boob = "..."; no problem.
 
@Jefffrey oh, well, ok, that's another matter though
 
@AndyProwl Yes
 
sure, for my::string it's possible
but it was possible even before C++14
 
guise stahp pl0x
 
2:36 PM
why stahp? we're just discussing
 
I don't think so. The source of the link seems to imply that the standard specified that possibility but forgot to add that clause in some paragraph which made it unusable. That's why they had to issue that defect report.
 
Because of unique_ptr
if you just wrapped a const char*, it would be ok
 
Which now also works for C++11, because it's applied retroactively, but wasn't possible then.
@AndyProwl Here it says:
> constexpr constructors for non-literal types were not allowed
Since in your my::string you would have needed a constexpr constructor for a non-literal type...
 
but what would make my::string a non-literal type?
 
Maybe my confusion is with literal type
 
2:38 PM
if just have a constexpr constructor and let it wrap a const char*, it's a literal type
(see what Robot linked)
 
I have robot plonked for now.
 
lol
 
user1804599
Walter Bright laughs at constexpr being so crippled.
 
wait
5 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
http://eel.is/c++draft/basic.types#10
 
@AndyProwl Then what does this mean:
> constexpr constructors for non-literal types were not allowed
 
2:39 PM
^ This specifies what makes a type a 'literal type'
 
?
This is still not possible
 
@Jefffrey I presume it means that you can now have a type which is not a literal type but has a constexpr constructor. Before, you could have constexpr constructors only on literal types.
 
Oh I see
 
but the point is: my::string could be used in a constexpr expression even in C++11
 
Misread it
 
2:43 PM
user image
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(just a joke :P)
 
wat
 
dat meme thing
 
:(
 
wait
wait wait wait
 
how can you plonk robot
 
2:44 PM
who plonked robot
 
Ven
wat whait
 
I can't have a discussion with more than 1 person
 
I'm limited like that
 
then plonk me
 
2:44 PM
@Jefffrey I'm all yours broggio
 
@AndyProwl I started with you
So you had the priority
 
I see
<3
I see plus plus
 
no
 
ITT Jeffrey is single threaded
 
single threaded and busy wait affectionate
 
2:46 PM
I remember a time you were definitely less aggressive in here
 
When I enter a discussion I can't interrupt and do something else while waiting for someone to reply
@TonyTheLion Yeah, I know
 
@TonyTheLion ooppa bartek style
2
 
@Jefffrey Please go back to being that person :)
 
I used to be a hippy
 
Nice attempt at perpetual motion. (It's cheating at the end.)
 
2:47 PM
note that robot hasn't said a word since you plonked him.
 
In fact in retrospect I'm a much worse person overall due to this room probably.
5
 
Or did you plonking robot result in him being plonked for everyone else :o
 
@Jefffrey don't let this room get to you, and I know thats easier said than than done, because I've fallen into the same trap before.
 
But at least I know more C++
 
@rubenvb maybe robot is working?
 
2:49 PM
I guess it's a tradeoff. You give your soul to the Lounge and the Lounge gives you C++ knowledge back.
 
@TonyTheLion omg that sounds terrible
 
lol
I used to drink a lot too
So that probably has to do with a lot more than what this room does
 
@TonyTheLion We must save him from this atrocity!
 
@rubenvb Yes, working is definitely overrated :P
 
user1804599
2:52 PM
@StackedCrooked People who believe in perpetual motion are like those who believe in mutability.
 
Ven
@Jefffrey Hah! Joke's on the lounge, I was already an awful person when I came in this room
 
I think this room made me better
 
@StackedCrooked I think Superman is working with you:
 
Then you'll become literally cinch
 
in Discussion between sehe and Superman, 20 mins ago, by Superman
Description Resource Path Location Type
Symbol 'forward' could not be resolved francis rammeloo.cpp /Francis Rammeloo line 58 Semantic Error
@AndyProwl I think so too :)
Jokes aside, same here
 
2:53 PM
:D I mean it
I lernd2discuss
 
This room has taught me a lot.
 
Oh that part too. Yeah.
I learn to deal with trolls :)
 
This room has also allowed me to meet some very smart people.
 
also made me less ignorant on various topics
 
@Jefffrey there are some bad sideffects indeed
 
2:55 PM
not necessarily related to programming
 
not necessarily due to this room but similar communities overall that I've been in
 
There's no shortage of smart people as far as I can tell. But in this lounge I learned a lot of things from observing some of them yes
 
why would you plonk robot
I mean telkitty, bartek, cat, ok
 
Hey, this room is not evil incarnate. That's not what I'm saying.
 
but why robot
 
2:55 PM
but it also has some downsides, it allowed me to spiral into extreme negativity for a while
 
It's just that I live this room in the wrong way
 
@sehe huh?
 
@TonyTheLion You learn from the best
@StackedCrooked Don't look at me. It's a chatroom - so follow the yellow brick road
 
@sehe hahah, sadly yea
 
@Mr.kbok who, ever, did?
 
2:57 PM
The Crinch. Story of an evil green looking programmer posting weird CS ideas to scare little kids. Coming this Christmas
 
Outside the Orbitron
@Rerito Well. That just tells me a lot about cinch that I was still giving him benefits of doubt on
 
13 mins ago, by Alex M.
who plonked robot
so it was you jefery
I'm disappointinio
you complain about the evilness in this room
and plonked the kindest user
 
the room has also allowed me to meet @Borgleader and @ScottW <3 <3
 
@AlexM. kindest? No. Fairest: likely
 
@sehe Well, he's not a bad guy but letting his mind wander like this... He could use a bit more thinking :p
 
2:59 PM
I never saw robot be unkind
 
hi all how to implement an codes
 
I agree with the fair part
 
ah shit wrong account
 
@Rerito I don't mind that part. But the active annoying...
 
2:59 PM
@GregorMcGregor lol
 
@GregorMcGregor you hire an hero
 
bby u know what else is growing on me
 
@sehe Hence the Grinch part
 
@GregorMcGregor Some sort of potato-related disease?
 

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