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10:06 PM
Night peeps
 
@sehe Night :)
 
cool
I've added another test suite that's just for eval component
great.
fuck haskell is seriously super fast to code in when you sort of know what you're doing
 
@sehe laters
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well that's like the most basic requirement for any language
 
> fuck haskell
You heard it here first.
 
10:14 PM
@ElimGarak hehe
 
Lounge representin'. Stars all around.
Is Coliru one of a kind or are there others? What's the exact history? Was it the first?
 
ideone, liveworkspace, etc
there have been many
but the difference is that the old permalinks to ideone and lws died
even though ideone is still alive
which is stupid
 
@ElimGarak I used ideone before I made coliru.
 
Coliru seems to be the most progressive, tho. In terms of upgrading the compiler.
 
10:21 PM
And Coliru has Boost.
 
that's because whenever the compiler is not the latest version, somebody complains in here until it is upgraded
 
See, I knew our bitching would eventually prove useful.
> Tomalak Geret'kal said on Jan 31, 2013 09:21 PM:
The version information for ideone.com is wrong. It was updated to GCC 4.7.2 (for both C++03 and C++11 modes) on Wednesday.
 
@ElimGarak And it's the only one that becomes yellow during compilation.
 
uh fuck no it's unusable without Lens
just seriously
changing anything in data structure is borderline impossible
 
@Puppy yeah I only upgrade it because you guys keep nagging about it :P
 
10:24 PM
@ElimGarak Wandbox is pretty up to date as well
 
Ell
what benefit does immutability give if you use pure functions everywhere?
 
@StackedCrooked did you update GHC already? :)
 
Ell
actually nvm
 
> Tomalak Geret'kal said on Oct 10, 2013 04:26 PM:
@chico: Coliru should be available for the foreseeable future; the author intends for this, at least. It's definitely worthy of addition to the list.
 
Ell
that doesn't make sense now I think about it
 
10:24 PM
you can't really write impure functions without mutability ;p
 
LRiO became Stacked's personal attorney / spokesperson.
 
@StackedCrooked you're famous :O
 
Ell
@Puppy yeah. I was thinking you can mutate the stuff inside the function only. but then that doesn't make sense :P
 
@StackedCrooked pro
 
@Ell It often makes sense.
 
10:25 PM
Coliru Pro - for $19.99/day it goes yellow during compile.
 
mutating local variables can be super convenient.
 
Ell
but I mean, mutating the stuff inside the function would make those functions impure
 
nope.
 
how many donations do you get btw?
 
mutating a local does not make the function impure.
 
Ell
10:25 PM
@Puppy I know, but how can you mutate the locals without the functions on the locals being impure?
 
who gives a shit if the implementation details can involve impurity?
the function interface is pure and that's all that counts.
 
Ell
ie how do you know what a "local" is to allow mutation? (it's locals the whole way down)
 
Hide all the implementation!
 
Ell
@Puppy the function interface of the locals would be impure too is my point
 
nobody cares
 
10:26 PM
@Rapptz I think it's about every three months on average. Usually around 50 EUR.
 
the function interface of the locals is irrelevant.
 
that's not bad
 
having a few impure implementation details means nothing.
 
@Rapptz yeah, it's nice
 
what matters would be having the large-scale designs be pure and immutable.
 
Xeo
10:28 PM
meeeh. stuff is broken and nobody knows why
 
CppCon spike to $500 a day. Stacked quits Lounge, buys yacht. Lol jk, buys <insert hot actress here>.
 
@StackedCrooked Oh--something I've been meaning to ask. How difficult would it be for you to install robot's nonius headers where they'd be accessible?
 
Ell
@Puppy it's not - one doesn't design something as impure because it's intended to be "local only"
 
you should update your ACE editor
 
@Ell I completely do that.
 
Ell
10:29 PM
@Rapptz +1 for this @StackedCrooked
 
I think that about 90% of using purity and immutability is knowing when to fuck it and use impure mutable side effects instead.
 
coliru's still using ancient 2013 version of ACE editor no?
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion sorry I'm not going to be able to make it this weekend :(
 
5 hours ago, by Elim Garak
Guys, I need to shit, but my girlfriend has friends over and I don't want to pass through the room with the obvious intent to shit.
 
Ell
due to birthdays of flatmates, and parents coming down
 
10:30 PM
I still haven't. :'(
 
Ell
@ElimGarak we're all human
What room are they in and how close is the bathroom?
 
I have to pass through it, the living room. :(
 
@JerryCoffin I can do it in the weekend if you remind me. The biggest problem is picking a directory where to put it :)
 
And some 3-4 of meters.
 
just pass through it to shit
that's what I would do.
 
10:31 PM
There's the other one on the other end, but that requires a longer walk of shame.
 
Ell
just walk through in a confident way that says "I need to piss"
 
@Ell rip our meeting. :(
I was looking forward to it you know.
 
@Rapptz I'm afraid to update stuff.. But I'll give it a shot.
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion I'm sorry :(
 
@ElimGarak Have you tried aiming your other end up at a 45-degree angle and firing it across the room. That way you won't have to pass through it. Only the stuff you're trying to get rid of does.
 
Ell
10:32 PM
I'm looking forward also
 
just salting the wound a little
 
Ell
actually
 
Damn you, Ell. You made Tony sad, now i have to find cute cat videos to calm him down and feed him trolls.
 
actually
 
Ell
hmmmmmmmmm
 
10:32 PM
@ElimGarak I like you
 
just post some crappy images for him to bin
he seems to want to take over the Binmeister mantle
 
Gosh, I'm so tempted to add Puppy back to room owner list
 
do it I want my italics back
 
Puppy 2015 (October 8th)
 
10:33 PM
done
 
yay italics
 
Yay.
 
fucking fucj
 
he is back
 
10:33 PM
Bartek is fucked.
 
I can't define a functor instance for a newtype w/o params
god this is so annoying
 
@Feeds rip lounge
 
Ell
okay I need to figure out when I can visit tony
 
you should
 
I suggest October 8th, 2015
 
10:35 PM
lol
 
@TonyTheLion Why?
 
Ell
I have lectures :P
 
@StackedCrooked I'll try to remember to remind you. Maybe somebody could remind me to remind you? :-)
 
Ell
I might be able to do saturday actually, I suggested a meal for sunday
people don't get back to me quick enough :V
 
@StackedCrooked We can remind you of Nonius periodically...
 
10:37 PM
wait, Ell are you actually studying in Bristol at university now?
 
Ell
@Puppy Yah :)
 
rip me
 
Ell
haha
 
nsertNewValue :: TableData -> TableData
        insertNewValue (TableData td) = TableData $ Map.insert (Str name) (Function newRef) td
        newCtx = ctxWithNewRef { tables = Map.adjust insertNewValue (_Gref ctx) (tables ctx) }
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Puppy was a room owner for many years. He got kicked off over a year ago (longer probably) for the vagina incident. I think he's had his fair punishment. Other owners are off course free to object.
 
10:40 PM
this code is fucking cancer
I am crying for every single character of it
everyone who is an opponent of purity and immutability can just copy and paste it into faces of FP weenies
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz but it's haskell :O
 
Wait I thought nonius was on coliru?
 
Wait, you don't wget it
 
@Ell it's not like every single line of haskell code on earth is good
 
10:44 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Blasphemy!
 
@BartekBanachewicz Actually, most are terrible.
Especially those coming to Haskell, but not embracing it properly. Stuck in their old ways.
 
@TonyTheLion What is Nonius?
 
@Nican Blasphemy.
 
@Nican Robot's timing library
 
Did I just commit a sin? I feel proud.
 
@TonyTheLion Oh yes- I remember that. :)
 
@Nican :)
 
Measurement is the only nonius of truth.
 
user784668
@Ell Martin supports Stoke.
 
user784668
I support Accrington.
 
10:47 PM
Martin came into the Lounge today
See star board :)
 
Graced us with his presence.
 
user784668
Speaking of which
 
user784668
@MartinJames how do you feel about being above Chelski?
 
Thank God he didn't go full Domagoj
 
Would've been a long 2 years of questions. Well, we would've sent a search party.
 
10:48 PM
Yes
That was bad enough
 
Now we only need to get Pubby back. Btw. Mooing Duck ragequit Lounge? He's still on SO.
 
Oct 16 '14 at 0:37, by Ell
Domagoj s leaving was kinda sad
@ElimGarak and Pawnguy :( RIP
@ElimGarak Last time he came in he told us about being fired at work (Mooing Duck)
 
Because of the Lounge?
 
Jun 1 '13 at 15:14, by Tony The Lion
I still want to know why Domagoj left :(
@ElimGarak Doubt it
 
May 17 '14 at 3:21, by Shog9
If I or a moderator remove someone as room owner because they screwed that up, then they stay removed.
Did you forget about this?
 
10:51 PM
@ElimGarak Don't think so--as I read it, he was just too busy otherwise to spend time here.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Apparently I did
 
Ell
@ElimGarak life got in the way
 
Ell
he came back for a while when he was unemployed
but then got a job and went again
 
10:51 PM
sorry @Puppy :(
 
Wait, what did Puppeh do?
 
I don't want to cause a kerfuffle
@ElimGarak Room title with the word vagina in it caused a kerfuffle on Meta.
 
@ElimGarak He thought of going behind Shog9 backs by asking to be reinstated as room owner after Shog removed him.
 
lounge ownership is srs bzns
 
it was all rightfold's fault
 
10:53 PM
Whoa Puppy is RO.
 
Ell
not anymore :P
 
Aww.
 
So, if we made a new Lounge<C++> and all moved there, would the removal still be a thing? Or is Puppy "banned" from being a room owner period?
 
Painful truths I was reminded of and I frankly don't want another meta disaster
 
@TonyTheLion wat
 
10:54 PM
@Puppy look what Jefffrey posted earlier
 
@Puppy If you want to be reinstated as room owner you'll have to ask @Shog9
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ yeah but that was in 2014
 
pfft
 
it's 2015 now
 
that's so last year
 
10:55 PM
@ElimGarak I suspect (but will admit that it's only suspect--I'm not at all sure) that by now, things have stayed calm enough for long enough that Puppy being an owner again wouldn't be a big problem. The original reinstatement happened within hours of his removal (maybe within one hour, though I'd have to look to be sure).
 
You know, to avoid going behind his back for the second time.
 
literally.
 
@JerryCoffin yeah
probation over
 
sbi should add puppy then
 
So, I was thinking... If we helped make Puppy a moderator... We need a Lounger behind enemy lines.
 
10:56 PM
cmon add puppy to owners
 
then there's no discussion
 
I don't know why he wants more responsibilities but if he wants them
 
The puppy may have a reputation both in and outside the Lounge. But he isn't stupid. I don't think he'd go around changing the room name to "Lounge<Rightfold's Vagina>" anymore after that episode.
 
gsl::owner<Puppy>
 
nah
it'd have to be Lounge<Rightfold's Penis>
 
10:57 PM
@Mysticial Yeah. This time it'd be Elyse's Vagina.
 
Why do you guys want Puppy as a RO exactly?
I don't understand.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ iittalliiccss
 
Because we like Puppy.
 
@Mysticial I didn't think so either, that's why I added him, but I didn't want @Jefffrey to go cause a kerfuffle on Meta potentially, so I went to be safe.
 
@Mysticial It's all about "Lounge<Elyse's Vagina>" now
 
10:57 PM
god damnit I've been working all day and haven't played anything in 3 days
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ He's been room owner for years. It's just supposed to be this way.
 
and that message from Shog9 I forgot about
 
Yeah, Puppy is pretty much a part of the Lounge core.
 
All I see when considering Puppy as a RO is Shog9 coming in here pissed because we added him back.
Why don't you just ask him?
It's literally 1 ping away
 
10:58 PM
Well someone else can do the honours now
 
Shog is not the boss of this room.
 
important things
 
sbi is
 
Only Telkitty would flagrantly ignore mods with the intention to keep on causing trouble.
 
about internet chats
 
10:59 PM
guys I don't think shog gives a fuck anymore
you can stop taking this so seriously
just add the guy to RO lol
 
@CatPlusPlus significant part of our lives
 
Do whatever you like. I won't sniff you off.
 
shog is relevant to the Lounge as Telkitty.
 
shog as Telkitty;
 
Or "go cause a kerfuffle on Meta potentially"
 

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