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2:00 PM
Like telenovelas with Portuguese actors playing Portuguese people in Brazil or vice-versa. Those things air on both sides of the Atlantic without subtitles on either side.
 
WE NEED TO GO DEEPER
 
Yeah then I would understand why it’s compared to English then
 
okey but it cleared things for me about SYB a little
 
I find (spoken) Brazilian easier to understand than people from Azores speaking European Portuguese.
 
Give more credit to grammatical differences between the varieties of English (e.g. 'need doing' vs 'need to be done').
 
2:05 PM
Ah, maybe.
 
@LucDanton (...vs 'it is needful')
 
@Griwes Thank you sir.
 
@LucDanton Do you have some link about this thing?
And FWIW, this is a decent overview of object pronouns in EP (it misses the weirdest corner of EP grammar: the infix pronouns). BP just always puts the pronoun before the verb and calls it a day, no fancy rules.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Not really. I noticed it in a Calvin&Hobbes strip a long time ago and I sometimes see Americans mention it when discussing regional differences, but I don’t even know of a name for it.
 
ffs public class Foo extends Object... what sort of person writes this?
 
2:10 PM
a person wanting to have a public class called Foo that extends the class called Object
(just a guess, mind you)
 
Funny how many programmers have interest in human language as well.
 
Infix pronouns are fun.
 
@thecoshman annoying persons
 
"I will eat" => "Comerei"; "I will eat it" => "Comê-lo-ei" ("lo" is the pronoun, "come(r)ei" is the verb).
 
@Griwes but... Java :\
 
2:13 PM
lol tag jabbascript /cc @sehe WRT rep farming
 
@StackedCrooked how else would you know where to put the monad in a sentence?
it goes after the verb of course
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I’m sorry but that’s dumb.
 
Or a person with ocd who can't deal with missing "extends" after class name.
 
@LucDanton It's awesome!
 
You guys are terrible at Romancing.
 
2:14 PM
INFIX EVERYTHING
 
In Japanese sometimes the adjectives get conjugated instead of the verbs.
 
I decided to sharpen my C# skills (which are quite dull to be honest) by attempting to write a content management (web?)app that uses a static site generator, and in first instance handles the git (for github pages) crap behind the scenes.
I do not know where this will lead. Currently I have nothing but the idea.
But having this would make it possible to replace WordPress!
 
@StackedCrooked Isn't that because they're essentially verbed?
 
I’m trying to see if the WP article on E-Prime is self-demonstrating. I’m half-way in and it’s tiring. Also: people do care about the copula even in English! cc @sehe
 
@StackedCrooked I.e. in such a sentence, would there be a conjugated adjective and a verb or just the adjective?
 
> Syntax highlighting applied to fiction. It's easy to spot all the verbs, but why on Earth would you want to do that?
 
Desu (is). Deshita (was). Yoi desu (it is good). Yokatta desu (it was good).
 
If you don't want to syntax highlight prose, IT's OBVIOUS you don't want to highlight code, right.
 
ITT natural languages are totally the same as formal languages
 
> The elimination of a whole class of sentences results in fewer alternatives and is likely to make writing less, rather than more, interesting.
Peace, at last.
 
2:20 PM
@Griwes lol, it mentions commented-out code.
 
@Griwes there's like a guy who hates T for any thing T in the collection of things on this world
 
Then again… that’s in the criticisms section and there are other occurences there. fry.jpeg
 
@StackedCrooked Oh, interesting.
 
So the adjective becomes conjugated while the verb doesn't change form.
 
@StackedCrooked Does it only work with the "be" verb?
 
2:21 PM
> Developing software is complex and error-prone, so people need to be thinking when doing it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz wow. that's sad
 
> Developing software is complex and error-prone, so we should even more complex and error-prone.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes iirc yes
 
@AlexM. I hate the collection of things in this world, and inconsistent theories.
 
2:23 PM
Well played.
 
Informal conjugation leaves out the desu entirely.
 
I wish my schools highlighted verbs when I was learning grammar.
 
@sehe Unfortunately I wasn't joking
 
> Works written in E-Prime
haha
@StackedCrooked So I guess they become predicates, not verbed.
 
2:27 PM
@AlexM. or just going in the opposite way of everyone for the kicks
 
func(const wxString &string); The const indicates the reference (parameter) will not be change or that the string will not be changed or both?
 
What do you mean that a reference doesn't change?
 
um...
 
Reference cant change what they point to.
 
oh
 
2:30 PM
A reference is the object it refers to.
References are not objects.
sows confusion
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ... ^ not funny (to me at least)
 
This is not a normal occurence in E-Prime.
I’m having too much fun
 
is
This does not normally occur in E-Prime.
 
references are aliases
 
@LucDanton You is suck.
 
2:32 PM
they're like nicknames
 
References are not about the journey, they are about the destination
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The edit was for irony.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Fortunately we know you're bad at jokes :)
 
Oh, missed that.
 
The follow-up doesn’t do the same because it’s since it belongs to the meta discussion :v
 
2:34 PM
@AndyProwl A specific reference to a specific person that I learned without (or after) learning the real name to the person.
 
@Griwes dafuq lol
 
@AndyProwl But the name is not the person!
 
nvm. I'll just ask the book. which also has errors, but no sense of humor.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes indeed it's not
 
@Jaden good thinking. You've got the answer many times over and the first responders failed to confuse you with humor
 
2:36 PM
References are like hard links.
I'm boarding a plane.
 
Where to?
 
I love how Code::Blocks randomly crashes why I open or close files.
 
Yeah, why would you?
 
@Morwenn Don't open files in C:B
Don't do anything with files in C:B
Use ST3
 
don't open files in ST3
don't do anything with files in ST3
use vim
 
2:41 PM
@AnalPhabet Why would I use a fucking moto to code?
 
lol everyone laugh at @Morwenn for using Code::Bollocks
 
Ell
don't open files in vim
don't do *anything* with files in vim
use emacs
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@StackedCrooked hard links are like shared pointers
 
@AndyProwl Dublin
 
Does emacs have UEFI support
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2:42 PM
fun, >100 rep today
 
@StackedCrooked Have a nice trip!
 
@Morwenn ITT Sublime Text 3 is a motoric device
 
I'm such a whore
 
Ell
@StackedCrooked oh have fun :)
 
@AnalPhabet I'm p sure he meant a motorola
 
2:42 PM
w/e
Still crimethink, though
 
I was talking about that ST3.
 
@Ell I did indeed see this coming.
 
When does the scope of a function name begin? Can a parameter have the same name as the function it belongs to?
 
But then again, if you are opening your files in emacs, you better use vim
 
@Morwenn I'm pretty sure even emacs doesn't support that
 
2:47 PM
@Morwenn wut
looks funny
like something I'd like, except italian
 
@Griwes Do I :emacs like I :terminal?
 
@LucDanton an meme is bornt
 
Ell
I like my women like I like my emacs: with a lisp
 
You mean bloated and fucking up your fingers
 
you mean lithp
 
Ell
2:50 PM
@GregorMcGregor emacs bloated? naah
 
That's what I like with Code::Blocks: I don't have to enter wars to prove it's the best editor around since it's not.
 
@GregorMcGregor nope but it has UEFA support
 
My favorite emacs feature is the autopilot and/or Mars rover support
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Ell
hmm I froze emacs opening an image as text
it's alive again
 
It didn't freeze, it was contemplating the art inside the image and redacting a tumblr about it
emacs x tumblr, a new fanfic
 
2:52 PM
Literally pasting the question title into google gave me good results. You can do better! — Bartek Banachewicz 7 mins ago
> @BartekBanachewicz don't be so rude.
:psyduck:
 
Gregor eMacs Gregor
 
object slicing without static_cast works, and with static_cast it makes a copy
wtf
 
> you should be much more understanding to a new developer
> a new developer
> developer
 
void foo(Base);
Derived d;
foo(static_cast<Base>(d)); Calls Base(Base const&)
 
You're explicitly making a copy
 
2:56 PM
foo(d) doesn't make a copy and slices
crap, i should have said static_cast<Baseconst&>
-.-
 
@gnzlbg Is it because you're invoking Base's copy constructor? No way
@gnzlbg slowpoke
 
> "You can do better!" is rude and not constructive. It is condescending.
 
me waking up: wow I can't wait to go to sleep tonight
 
cc @Griwes
 
@BartekBanachewicz I disagree with some of what you said. Teaching someone to use Google first is a good thing. Following that up with "You can do better!" is rude and not constructive. It is condescending. Further, the answer I provided was more custom than what Google provided. I included the same HTML setup that he has stated. Better than what Google provided. — frosty 44 secs ago
 
2:58 PM
UBSan caught this error for me, foo is actually write, and I was writing to file from an already destructed object
 
Have thought this
 
Oh hey, Bartek being condescending
Well I never
 
@AnalPhabet thanks for the therapy !
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ ITT "You can do better!" is condescending
 
ITT "You can do better!" is constructive
lol, put that way it actually seems to be
 

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