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12:00 PM
It sucks.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I have no idea why this doesn't work, but something along those lines.
Not sure how more readable that is tbh
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I thought you disliked inferred function signatures
 
@ThePhD Ugh, there isn't one.
 
If vector had bounds checking then it would not be as fast as an equivalent C program. Which would be Der Untergang for C++.
 
@BartekBanachewicz In Haskell, yes
 
12:01 PM
@Morwenn Time to go fight someone.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ why not in C++?
don't the arguments you made hold here?
 
Because C++ code is not as nice to look at as Haskell's
 
how is that even relevant
 
There's a tradeoff, between what's right and what's nice to look at
That's the relevancy
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ find_if?
/cc @thecoshman
 
12:03 PM
@AndyProwl Thanks :)
 
no prob
 
Thanks you for your answer, but I can't read C++. Sorry for the confusion in the title. — Vasil Kalchev 12 mins ago
FFS
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ uh
 
0
A: Find string inside 2D char array in C++

seheIn the category: Use C++ Live On Coliru #include <algorithm> #include <iostream> #include <cstring> char idTable[255][32] = { }; int main() { // initialize an entry std::copy_n("tester", 7, idTable[43]); // find match auto match = [](const char* a) { return strcmp(a, "tester"...

 
lol, that code doesn't even work now
 
Ripperoni.
 
12:05 PM
@sehe if you do <link><kbd></kbd></link> the whole button becomes a link. A side effect is that you lose the blue color :(
either way, that dumb OP
 
That's highly interesting
 
> herp derp I can't fix my shitty C++ code that's actually C
> thanks for your answer but I can't actually read C++
 
Aww
 
@BartekBanachewicz O. Fuck me. I mispasted that: coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/3ef104b37c74569c
 
12:07 PM
Poor Bartek, all that hard work and nothing to gain fromit.
 
@ThePhD not the first time eh
works exactly the opposite way
you write a shitty non-answer and get tons of upvotes
@sehe oooh. Clearly superior.
 
Simple wins
@BartekBanachewicz Try the boost tags :)
 
@sehe cool
 
The ROI is well nigh negative there
 
Should check out boost range for real.
 
12:10 PM
@BartekBanachewicz +1 for effort
 
@sehe I can imagine
@sehe aww. It's not like I do it for the rep these days though.
for me to matter I'd need 82k more
to get 82k would require tremendous effort and actual answer spam
I mean sure there's some mod privilege at 20k and then delvotes but meh
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow There is nothing inherently wrong with singletons
 
Burn the nonbeliever.
 
@BartekBanachewicz You stop doing it to avoid rep then :)
 
@ThePhD he means singleton types, not singleton classes.
 
12:16 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Go for epic badge
 
that's 200 daily for 60 days?
oh 50.
 
Not consecutive
 
I know
there's also Legendary
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'm not sure what the argument was
@BartekBanachewicz Oh, I meant that then
 
2 hours ago, by Griwes
ITT Bratek hears the difference between 320kbps and 321kbps
 
12:18 PM
@AndyProwl ¬_¬
@sehe there wasn't an argument, just mocking
 
OH FFS
curiousguy is back and has been posting on my questions.
 
who's curiousguy?
 
Xeo
lol
 
Xeo
@AlexM. old "troll"
 
12:22 PM
I see
 
@Griwes in fairness it's 96/192kbps vs. 320kpbs. Biiiiig difference. And yes, I hear that. support.spotify.com/is/learn-more/faq/#!/article/…
You do too, if you either (a) pay attention or (b) listen to music where the artifacts are easier to discern (so, wide dynamic range, wide spectrum without predictable peaks)
 
Xeo
We're not sure if troll or just DAU
 
Xeo
Duemmster Anzunehmender User
:D
 
Dumb As... uh
... Well, actually that works.
Dumb As Ugh.
 
12:23 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHA
 
@sehe fair enough; the joke still stands ;P
 
Xeo
:D
you should be able to read that, though!
 
@Griwes Good jokes always stand. It's the suggestion that was being made that I responded to
 
@LucDanton I think I'll fail early, if something is more important than the rest then the user can probably name that thing and check for it specifically
I won't do any transaction stuff, instead it will be like if not success then see if at least sth was successful
 
12:25 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes GT takes user contributions
 
@sehe ...I did say this before, but I don't care too much since my musical interests often lie with stuff for which there exists literally a single recording, and often the only known version was copied several times using magnetic tapes... so I guess I'm just not too sensitive.
There might also be the fact that I prefer live recordings over studio ones, and there the 192 vs 320 frankly isn't as big of a difference :P
 
My stomach hurts...
 
@Griwes magnetic tapes when well-mastered can still carry higher dynamic range than 192kbps encodings
@Griwes Um. Wat.
Live recordings are mastered just like studio ones.
I see no compelling reason for that material to benefit less from wider tonal response and bigger dynamic range.
cue philharmonic records.
 
@BartekBanachewicz You know the audience thing? Or random sounds that happen because the environment wasn't as sterile as it is in studios?
 
12:28 PM
@Griwes what about it? Yes, it appears in the recordings. So what?
 
@BartekBanachewicz ...underground tapes. Like recorded with a portable recorder at someone's flat.
 
@BartekBanachewicz So it's full of artifacts and it doesn't have perfect acoustics.
 
@BartekBanachewicz ...why do I even bother.
 
@Griwes The point is that while those can detriment the signal, digital compression introduces different kind of distortion/feature removal.
 
@Griwes Like the older Mountain Goats stuff?
 
12:30 PM
@BartekBanachewicz you really don't get it
 
@Griwes You seem to assume that the only thing that is attributed to high-quality encodings is sonical purity and that's simply not true.
@Griwes Don't get what? That if you have a recording at terrible quality, worsening it even more doesn't matter?
Because that's not true either.
Every consecutive lossy encoding makes the result worse.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Tell me how 192 vs 320 affects the quality of this.
 
To the point where it becomes noise, basically.
 
12:32 PM
@BartekBanachewicz It is noise.
 
@Griwes Sigh, it doesn't matter what's being recorded.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Listen to the fucking recording.
 
Why don't you read about what those additional kilobits are spent on.
 
@elyse Nothing inherently wrong, you say... so why can't I inherit from Singletons? ;)
 
12:32 PM
@Griwes I've listened to it before. I know this music. You're missing the point.
 
@BartekBanachewicz They're spent on more noise. High-quality noise.
 
@BartekBanachewicz listen. to. the. fucking. recording. and tell me what is "lost" between 192 and 320.
 
I need 1440kbps notched white noise.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 1Gbps white noise!
 
@Griwes I don't have to tell you. Just grab the analog tape you've mentioned, then compress it using 192 and 320, then render to wave and compare the signals.
that's what's lost.
 
12:33 PM
...
 
"compare the signals"
2 hours ago, by Griwes
ITT Bratek hears the difference between 320kbps and 321kbps
We're back to this.
 
"320 vs 321" was an idiotic example
 
It was a sarcastic remark.
 
I specifically mentioned spotify, which was 96/160 vs 320
 
@BartekBanachewicz Just like "compare the signals" is.
 
12:34 PM
I think it all depends on what you're listening
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes why? You can even listen to what's being lost exactly. Someone has made a recording of a difference between mp3 and uncompressed once
Have you listened to it?
 
lol
 
@AndyProwl No, Bartek vehemently asserts that it doesn't matter.
 
it's not the "recording" of the diff that's relevant
it's whether you can tell which is which
 
@Griwes um, no, why should it be about that
 
12:35 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Because if you can't tell the difference, it doesn't matter.
 
next up: flac vs spaces
 
It won't affect your experience.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's not true.
 
You'll enjoy both the same.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes not true either.
@R.MartinhoFernandes bullshit
 
12:35 PM
 
@GregorMcGregor I’m copying you
 
ahahahha
 
@BartekBanachewicz lolwut
 
so it's even better than my sarcastic remark
 
@BartekBanachewicz Why would it affect your experience if you can't tell the difference?
 
12:36 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's subconscious.
 
Because you "know" it's a different number?
 
ITT Bratek listens to higher quality because it's higher quality, not because he hears a difference
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This is fun.
 
or sometimes it requires listening to actual differences very closely
which you don't really do when listening casually
 
You don't really do when you're listening to noise.
 
12:37 PM
I am able to tell a 192 mp3 from a 320 one if I focus on it.
 
HAHAHAA
I'm willing to put that to test.
 
Store the sound files in glass bottles, it’s more classy than a box.
 
so... you can't when just listening to music
 
When I get home.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I did ABXY test myself a while ago.
 
12:37 PM
Hi
 
@BartekBanachewicz On noise?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no, not on noise
 
@BartekBanachewicz Then shut the. fuck. up.
 
Ok I was talking about music the whole time
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sue, me, fucker.
 
IRTA ABYX test
 
12:38 PM
7 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
@Griwes Don't get what? That if you have a recording at terrible quality, worsening it even more doesn't matter?
 
what about it
you're removing information
 
It's noise.
 
what's not clear to you here
 
The recording is noise.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh fuck yourself with that noise already
 
12:39 PM
@BartekBanachewicz It's always been about noise.
 
music has patterns that are exploited by compression algorithms
 
Buzzwords.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes maybe in your fucked-up imaginary world that resides in your head and tinnitus
 
> portable recorder at someone's flat.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes, when talking about noise, buzz words seem apt
@R.MartinhoFernandes that still records the music besides the noise duh
 
12:40 PM
Alongside the noise you mean.
 
the recording carries the music
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes.
every non-synthetic recording has noise.
 
And apparently you can't tell the difference on noise.
 
some more, some less. So what?
@R.MartinhoFernandes on pure noise.
white, pink, whatever
 
that's how I understood it
"would you be able to tell a difference on a recording of a white noise in different encodings"
 
12:42 PM
So you can tell a crappy quality 192kbps mp3 from a 320kbps one of the same thing?
 
which, as I understood, was a counterexample to "it doesn't matter what's being recorded"
 
@BartekBanachewicz Let me make that more precise; we are talking about terrible PRL-class devices from 35+ years ago.
@BartekBanachewicz lolwat no
 
@Griwes and (I'm repeating myself) the distortions introduced are different to the ones in low-bitrate encodings.
 
@BartekBanachewicz ...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I might be able to.
I couldn't do it easily
 
12:43 PM
lol
 
192 and 320 are pretty damn close
 
Those "distortions" introduced by "low-bitrate" encodings won't really damage the audio any further. Or at the very least, no human without superhearing will be able to tell the difference when casually listening to music.
 
you know what was the best hint actually?
the duration of string instruments parts
 
The best thing in all this was you claiming that the number will subconsciously affect your experience even if you can't tell the difference.
 
since my personal "lowest perceived level" didn't change, but the recording dynamic range did, I was able to tell them apart by the time differences of parts when they go silent
 
12:45 PM
ah yes
you measured the durations with a caliper
 
My sense of rhythm was well enough for that vOv
 
@Griwes You can find them with a signal analyser!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes because it will.
 
Confirmed, it's still funny.
 
@BartekBanachewicz ah yes, those crazy missing 16ths
 
12:46 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes you might laugh at this, but it doesn't change the fact it's true
Some people listen to low quality music and it's perfectly fine for them
 
@BartekBanachewicz it might be true, but it doesn't change the fact it's irrelevant
 
maybe for you vOv
 
ITT low-bitrate recordings = low quality music
 
Ell
hmm. I can't get emerge to install xnest o.O
 
You're laughing at higher-bitrate encodings just because you yourself don't perceive the difference or don't feel the need for improvement
 
12:47 PM
@BartekBanachewicz ER. Wasn't the whole point of Griwes about low-quality music to being with.
 
I'm tired with this.
 
Jee, get some glasses, man.
 
To sum up, it's fine if you listen to low-qual music yourself and enjoy it.
That's what music is for.
But if you laugh at people who listen to high-quality music, you're not funny, you're just a dickhead that's closed in their own perception capabilities.
 
I laugh at "audiophiles" because they're silly.
 
@BartekBanachewicz ITT Bratek is superior due to his superhuman hearing and general superiority which makes him superior
 
12:49 PM
lol
 
And they say silly things like "it doesn't matter if you can't tell the difference"
 
you're both dickheads vOv
 
\o/
 
My log for the fire: high quality audio encodings are ok. But if the hardware that plays it is crap, there's no use for that codecs in the first place :p
 
12:51 PM
@Rerito those modern portable preamps are cool
I'm totally going to buy one of those, but it's not high on my priority list
 
One of my coworkers has a high grade headset and with it you can totally hear the defects on low qual stuff
 
@BartekBanachewicz And see, it's not the fact that you listen to high-quality stuff that I'm laughing at. It's the fact that you seem to thinking listening to a shitty recording at 192kbps will make your experience worse even if you can't tell it's not 320kbps.
 
He let me try that was quite impressive
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes here I'd need to actually jump on different genres and the function of sound in music, but I'm not discussing that with you.
 
huh... auto defaults to copying values, even if a function returns a ref
 
12:54 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Wait what. Are you saying that what you listen to actually matters, then?
 
you have to use auto&... makes some sense I guess
 
I'm not saying anything
Go listen to your 192kbps music instead
 
yesterday, by ThePhD
auto is for letting the compiler figure out the type of a variable.
 
AFAICT you're saying everything.
 
Start there.
 
12:54 PM
@thecoshman You can use auto&& if you want both.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I mostly listen to FLAC stuff I ripped myself.
 
@thecoshman Yeah it's less confusing (as the & clearly states you'll be manipulating a ref)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't want to talk to you because you're stuck with your "my views are better and I totally have to laugh at others" and it's too annoying to deal with.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I.e. nice try making this about me there.
 
Keep thinking you're perfect m8
 
12:55 PM
That escalated quickly
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes hint: stop.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I actually am. That's why I'm a robot.
 
@BartekBanachewicz He truly is
 
Social awkwardness comes as an additional perk
 
Ad hominem
 
12:58 PM
@Rerito No, it's not an argument.
 
^
it's a plain insult
I wish people learned the difference
 
why are you arguing guys, stop arguing
 
I dunno, I'm still mad at robot since J. Wankely came here
 

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