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3:00 PM
Wrong Room.
Terribly wrong
 
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Wow
 
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This MIME system is sophisticated
 
user3010322
Google just checks extension names.
 
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This one actually opens the file and readers bytes to detect if something is an exec.
 
user3010322
Kinky.
 
3:01 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes cool.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nice! :) Eagerly awaiting pictures
(and yes I meant the painted miniatures)
 
Get a room.
 
@ThePhD wouldn't it be amazing if that were how decent OSs worked for the last forty years
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Imagine doing that to something like... oh i dunno
some huge program
 
+---[ECDSA 256]---+
|      .          |
|     o =         |
|      = X        |
|       % .       |
| o +  + S        |
|E *    .         |
| .  ...          |
|  ..+o           |
|  .+o.           |
+-----------------+
No matching host key fingerprint found in DNS.
DNS still hasn't propagated, but no more VS logo bullshit.
 
3:05 PM
Now it's you putting two middle fingers up at VS
 
Thanks for the image. Classy girl right here.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Sounds great.
 
Also how do you guys feel about Bootstrap
 
@Cinch not used it but sounds pretty cool last I checked
it's got sass
 
@Cinch Pretty terrible if you want to write good HTML and good CSS
 
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3:07 PM
Once I finish this Java Homework...
 
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And since I already did the C homework..
 
user3010322
The rest of the homeowrkis just paper homework.
 
@Jefffrey But good if you want to make good money
 
user3010322
Which isn't so bad.
 
@sehe Now I no longer have to memorize my fingerprints.
 
3:07 PM
But hey, it "works" like PHP "works", so it's all good.
 
@ThePhD lol C homework
 
Well, kinda. PuTTY can't into this.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Now you just have to trust DNS :)
 
@Jefffrey It "works" like a person in a coma is "alive".
 
@sehe The trust is implicit if I ssh domain.name anyway.
 
3:08 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes How so?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes huh. no, that's precisely what the fingerprint is about? (you can use it to validate that you're actually talking to the right party)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The whole point is that you don't know what domain.name will resolve to and, even if it resolves to what you wanted it to resolve to, you're really talking to that machine.
 
@sehe Oh that, yes, but it doesn't guarantee that I'm not just being relayed to the right party.
 
@Cinch Ahahaha Drupal
 
(The visual key helps, though)
 
3:10 PM
Drupal is a world of pain and suffering
 
Wait, you can have auto parameters?
 
Fuck it I might just go with Wix or Wordpress already
 
auto filter(const auto& in) { ... }
 
@sehe Oh wait, that wouldn't work.
You're right.
 
If I have to do ANYTHING in SSH I will flip my shit because the moment anybody else need to do it
 
3:11 PM
What.
 
Oh? too late
 
Is that even a sentence?
 
What.
 
@Cinch ?
 
lol you think you can get away with not using SSH
 
3:12 PM
Apparently to get SEO in Drupal you need to SSH stuff.
Which would be great
if I was a web dev
But I'm not
 
Here's a hint
 
So like
 
Go away. Please
 
Can you
 
If you don't know what you're doing, use a hosted solution
 
3:12 PM
Put more
Than 2
 
Shut up
 
Words in
A sentence?
 
You didn't even read my original comment right?
 
@Jefffrey Being throttled much? ;)
 
@Jefffrey wrong number
 
3:12 PM
The fuck is going on?
 
@Cinch Your original comment is not a coherent sentence.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, go WAYYY up
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm into that kinky stuff you know.
 
27 mins ago, by Cinch
My startup is looking for a CRM/web host right now
And then people said they wouldn't eat me alive if I asked here
 
3:14 PM
I don't see how that makes the other 'sentence' more coherent.
 
(Apparently not true)
 
If you are not a web dev, why do you care about this?
What's your job in the startup?
 
@Jefffrey FOUNDER.
 
Oh dear lord.
 
lol hire someone who knows their shit
 
3:15 PM
We're currently a 3 man team.
We have no money.
 
You can't just plop a webapp up and hope for the best
 
@EtiennedeMartel ¬_¬ what you playing at?
 
Sorry.
 
@Cinch That happens less often to people that can form coherent sentences!
 
It takes maintenance and development effort
 
3:16 PM
@CatPlusPlus GUESS WHAT I NEED TO DO
 
Esp that popular platforms will become a target the second they're indexed by Google
 
@BartekBanachewicz o_0
 
@thecoshman Je ne sais pas.
 
And maybe even sooner
 
Sounds like a startup, alright.
 
3:16 PM
Never mind I'm over it I'll just use Wordpress because it's the most noob friendly
Web hosting? I've actually had good experience with GoDaddy so far.
 
If you try to run Drupal or Wordpress with nobody who can deal with this sort of problems, you'll just waste more time and money
Jesus are you even reading
Don't host it yourself
Use a hosted solution
 
@CatPlusPlus Wordpress' interface isn't too hard to learn
 
and I want some flexibility
 
@EtiennedeMartel Sandra Paul/Réal Béland
 
You need to abandon this idea of a startup until you have money to actually start it up
 
There's no "stop DDoS/prevent exploits" button in Wordpress sorry
 
>
Strong integration with scheduling and email
Good e-commerce options (credit cards, PayPal, etc.)
Great forms interface (scheduling and Google Forms integration would be a plus)
Visitor/views metrics (I like Wordpress as it is but we'll see).
Profile hosting (We'll be hosting profiles for our tutors that I want to give member access or be open to integration somehow).
Responsive (Bootstrap is nice!)
@Jefffrey You don't get it do you the point is to MAKE money by doing this. We've designed the process to do this from almost 0 capital
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes s/ that can/ who/
 
@Cinch News flash: you need money to make money
 
3:19 PM
Wordpress might be touting the "5 minute install" bullshit, but actually running it takes knowledge and effort
 
@Jefffrey Newsflash it cost <$100 to start
You don't need too much to start a lemonade stand
 
Ok.
 
It's even better because we're in private tutoring which is complete doable
 
You also have no ROI on a lemonade stand
 
Good luck.
 
3:20 PM
We're already registered as an LLC anyways
 
You seem to be good at starting a combo of bad decisions.
2
 
@EtiennedeMartel sacke le blur!
 
I look forward to stories about how your Wordpress burned
 
@Jefffrey How is anything that we're doing bad?
 
@Cinch Because, indeed we will kill you first
 
3:21 PM
Wordpress is horrible terrible but I don't know any better alternative
 
I don't get how the majority of you can be so... sour.
 
Any static generator is better
How about because we have experience with the shit you're talking about
 
the_title()
 
@Cinch Hint: it has to do with how you're behaving
 
@Cinch This is c++ lounge, you should get used to
 
3:21 PM
I still have nightmares
 
Oh, I meant something with a graphical editor that you can handle to a non-programmer
 
@sehe I behave like this in real life and I don't get the response you guys give me
 
@khajvah Now I have to ask. Do we know you from somewhere?
 
@Mr.kbok Pick any murkdown WYSWIYM
 
@sehe Not really, I have been in this chat couple times like a year ago.
 
3:22 PM
Also there's ghost.org if you really need this to be a webapp for whatever reason
 
@Cinch Haha. "Like this". I don't think you know what it is that tick us off
 
@CatPlusPlus Will check
 
@khajvah What name?
 
same name
 
Running Wordpress is asking for trouble
 
3:23 PM
@sehe It's Cicada
 
@sehe Nope.
@CatPlusPlus Quick fix, easy to do for now
 
And gods help you if you don't upgrade the moment new version comes out
 
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modify-state(item-lens(idx), Lenses.set(Item.done, done))
 
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Nice. :D
 
I'll go with Sudokrew or something later
 
3:24 PM
lol
 
^*suddenly everyone goes to check it out*
 
The careers favicon looks like the java logo
 
user image
7
 
All Java editions are evil, didn't you know
 
@Cinch "Like this". I don't think you know what it is that tick us off. So, I'd wager "you don't behave like this" in real life.
 
3:26 PM
@Cinch Thank God you were trying to troll earlier with that startup crap.
 
@Mr.kbok ... not even close
 
@Jefffrey I'm not. I'm serious.
I don't troll.
 
@JerryCoffin Thanks.
 
Plonk.
 
> I am currently in the process of learning C++ in order to begin game development with SDL. I use game programming to self-educate myself on C++ and programming in general.
 
3:27 PM
I see the cat is awake
 
@Jefffrey lol thats really old
makes me sound 12 lol
 
Now you are 14?
 
I'm actually 17 man.
sorry.
 
Your profile says 18
So is it 17 or 18?
 
C++ and SDL. The recipe for success.
 
3:28 PM
@Jefffrey pornstars are eternally 18
 
I'm actually 2.4
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Surely.
 
@Pris Dat URL
> nSoph
 
But no, I am 17.
 
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> 190.00 / 200.00
 
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3:30 PM
WHERE DID THE POINTS GO. ;~;
 
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I demand a perfect score. DEMAND IT.
 
So (since Saturday isn't officially a work day) we're celebrating Pi day at work today. To help celebrate, I bought a couple of pies at the local grocery store. The manager apparently decided to get into the act--had marked some pies down from their normal price of $5.00 to $3.14.
 
@Jefffrey Also you yourself sound pretty immature
 
I am immature, I don't just sound like one.
 
@JerryCoffin we have a competition to recite Pi digits here at school. The guy who won last year just got hit by a car.
@Jefffrey Therefore you must be mature enough to admit you're mature.
 
3:31 PM
> here at school
 
Sorry but that is just a stupid competition
 
Jesus! You are bad at this troll thing
 
@Cinch Can we hope he was only mildly injured?
 
@JerryCoffin He's fine.
 
@Cinch I'm immature enough to refuse to admit to any level of maturity.
@Cinch That's good to hear. How man digits did he have to recite to win?
 
3:33 PM
@Jefffrey says you
 
user1804599
With lenses and immutable virtual DOMs, UIs are fun again.
 
@JerryCoffin i don't remember
 
user1804599
checkbox(compose(item-lens(idx), Item.done))
 
@sehe Actually (CONSTRUCTIVE) criticism is probably the best way to have it improve
 
@райтфолд You have a very weird idea of "fun"
 
3:34 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That gives a whole new level of terribleness
 
@Cinch You would do this only if you want it slaughtered, ridiculed on twitter etc.
 
@Cinch I'm going to guess it was fewer than @Mysticial has computed, anyway. :-)
 
user1804599
@sehe why?
 
Ask a shrink
 
I don't know, ask sehe
 
user1804599
This is extremely fun.
 
I'm sure it is
 
I can't imagine rightfold having any TODOs
@райтфолд Completely unreadable.
 
pointfree.compose lol
 
"http://rightfold.sexy/" Is this .sexy domain a new thing?
 
3:38 PM
@khajvah How can you tell? Ramanujan went to a school. We can guess that Akira Haraguchi, Chao Lu, Benjamin Most etc. all went to schools
> Emily still knows "The PI Song" and has since learned the last 7 digits
Gosh. Emily wins
 
@sehe How can I tell what? Does plotting pi digits sound interesting to you?
 
@sehe So that guy with the kickstarter to compute the last digit of Pi was just making things up after all. Emily already knows it. Here I trusted him completely and pledged my life savings to his pursuit of mathematical perfection.
 
There's no last digit
 
Dec 16 '11 at 12:44, by Xeo
> If you read here you can see the last digit of Pi can be calculated so hurry up an write me the algorithm in C# .Net 3.5 mmmmmmk? watleyreview.com/2004/062904-3.html – Blowed Away 12 mins ago
Ya know. It's old news
 
@Jefffrey What an irrational statement!
 
3:42 PM
@Jefffrey Sure there is. You just have to bend he spoon a little
The last digit might be rounded though:
I wanted to calculate PI as we know it's either correct or not(excluding the last digit which might be rounded). The program prompts the user for how many significant digits of pi they want then calculates it. From my understanding the BBP formula would sum up for each number 0 to infinity. Each time would be one more digit of pi. I'll add my code to help and understanding what I want. — LF4 Sep 1 '11 at 4:48
 
So, if we round up the last digit, we round out any competitions
 
pi = 3
 
or 4, depending on religious conviction and ambient reality distortion fields
 
@Jefffrey You've just sped up time to an unacceptable degree (remember: Pi seconds is a nanocentury).
 
3:44 PM
pi ~= 355/113
in JavaScript, 2 mins ago, by ssube
@Jhawins it does, because mountain dew is for neckbeards, and neckbeards are little bitches, and little bitches write java, and so on
lol
 
@Jefffrey false, 355 is not a prime, nor is 113
@Jefffrey thanks for making sure flags work as an advertising method
 
Hmm...maybe that's it: Pi really is three (with the right level of gravity).
 
        ~~O     (           )
~o
 
@khajvah It happened over the last couple of years
 
@Cinch They need better prizes.
 
3:47 PM
Do c++ compilers tend to watermark the binaries they produce?
 
@Pris When you debug them (but that's kind of obvious (sorry))
 
@thecoshman It's "sacrebleu". "bleu" here is an euphemism for "Dieu", which means "God", and that makes the whole expression equivalent to "Gosh darn it".
 
@Cinch Fuck. I love you.
Cosh darn it
 
why don't I see any debug stuff when I try to debug my clang built executable with VS? :(((
 
@Pris What do you mean by "watermark"? If you mean: "Can you usually figure out what compiler produced a binary?", then the answer is yes. If you mean: "Do they intentionally insert data specifically intended to make that binary traceable to the compiler?" then the answer is (at least usually) no.
 
3:50 PM
Hm... would it be possible to disassemble a binary according to a compiler?
 
@JerryCoffin Well how would you figure out which compiler produced a binary if no data is inserted to make it traceable?
 
@Cinch You... what?
 
Like say I compiled with GCC
 
@Pris DLL dependencies, for one.
 
@Cinch "according to a compiler"? We seem to be back into the incoherent sentences again.
 
3:51 PM
@Pris the keyword is intentionally I believe :)
 
could I get my source code back in some weird format?
That's not how compilers work but that would be interesting
 
@Cinch if assembly is "a weird format"
 
@Cinch You can get some source code back in some format. Except in unusual cases, the source code you get back won't be the same as what you put in (and often no more than vaguely similar).
 
@melak47 I mean would there be some way to reconstruct to a target language from assembly
With, you know, dummy varaibles and function names
 
@Pris Let me guess: you're trying to build something using a compiler you did not pay for?
 
3:54 PM
@EtiennedeMartel lol
 
@Pris Also wouldn't this be a security and reverse engineering vulnerability?
 
people pay for compilers? :v
 
@EtiennedeMartel No, but its somewhat related: I want to use a build system but I'm curious if it can tag the binary it produces
 
@Pris The same way you can tell who produced certain texts if you know them well enough.
Puppy never starts sentences with capitals, LRiO usually does but doesn't use final full stops, etc.
There are small things that you can use to distinguish them.
 
Cat hates commas.
(He also hates communism)
 
3:57 PM
Cinch is obnoxious
 
@Pris First, there usually will be at least one copyright string from the standard library. In many cases, that's enough all by itself to identify the compiler (e.g., a binary with a copyright for the Borland standard library was clearly produced with a Borland compiler). When that's not enough, you can usually narrow things further based on the generated code (how it allocates registers and such).
 
@Jefffrey darn
 
lol
 
@EtiennedeMartel fyi: I'l let you know when I want you to take me seriously
2
 
@thecoshman Well, it's hard to tell with your mastery of dyslexia.
 
3:59 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes fuck... I've near enough jizzed all over the internet then haven't I
3
 
Like right now I use qmake for all my stuff. I want to be 100% sure that I can do whatever the hell I want with the resulting binaries. But I'm curious as to whether or not something like qmake would tag what it builds. Under the hood, qmake would call a real compiler... so idunno.
 
@thecoshman wat
 

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