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11:00 AM
@Zeta But I should be back in town when the Jam starts, you can sit in my kitchen and leech my WiFi if you want to.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Won't work with SSO
 
@sehe Right sorry, Abidjan, Côte d'Ivoire :p
 
@BartekBanachewicz You can access it explicitly with .operator[](0)
 
@ParkYoung-Bae worked well enough
@Puppy and you're telling me now
 
@BaummitAugen Might as well do that. I didn't return the keys yet, so I should be able to use my room till end of march.
 
11:00 AM
I just noticed that you didn't seem to know that
 
@BartekBanachewicz The only impressive thing about that is your level of desperation.
@Puppy Only when it works.
 
so far I haven't had a problem naming the operator directly.
except the usual side-effect-expression bullshit.
 
Which means you cannot use it on a breakpoint condition.
 
@BartekBanachewicz derp. just use the watch window, "add watch" on the subexpression, copy paste, don your Derpstorm costume, and profit!
 
11:03 AM
gotta admit the VS debugger has some strengths and some weaknesses.
and expression evaluation is definitely not a strength.
 
I always struggle with the strengths, for some reason.
 
@BartekBanachewicz wild goose chase meets windmill meets derpstorm
Much Awe So Debuggiddy
 
Not allowing you to use "side-effect expressions" in breakpoint conditions is active sabotage.
2
It's not a feature that is lacking.
 
gotta admit that error can fuck off and die.
 
It's a "feature" they added to tie your hands even further.
 
11:04 AM
@Zeta That probably would be the easiest solution, since people might start to cook in this kitchen. Just let me know if you need it.
 
I know if it has side effects or not.
 
@Puppy How? I couldn't find that option
 
@sehe It's called "Bitch at Microsoft until they WONTFIX it"
 
> Panda antivirus mistakenly flags itself as malware, bricks PCs
nice
 
@sehe I really needed that and actually find the issue
 
11:05 AM
@Puppy I find that game too boring. None of my friends want to play it
ITT Bartek had a metamorphosis and move to India
 
To me it just shows that the people in charge of the debugger don't fucking use it.
Or they don't use any debugger at all, because then they'd be copying features from it.
 
What, and eat like dogs?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Just like public ed teachers in France send their kids to private schools :D
 
@LucDanton Dog feuding
 
@Rerito No, this is more like not sending them to any school at all.
 
11:07 AM
@rubenvb were you looking for anything in particular in my repositories? ^^
 
Ohhhh they don't even debug you mean?
That's quite an extreme statement lol
 
No, you mean!
 
@Rerito It is a reasonable justification for the evidence presented.
 
@Rerito I assume incompetence before malice.
 
11:08 AM
right
 
@sehe I preferred your first draft, very clever.
 
I need to go catch a train to Puppyville a.k.a. The Swamp
goodbye everybody
 
@LucDanton I thought it was too far-fetched
 
@Puppy they'll close it as "we appreciate your opinion but we like it this way"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Assuming lack of debugging is arguably still only assuming incompetence.
 
11:10 AM
@sehe I think I’ll steal it for when/if I need a nick.
 
DonFeudigg
 
@Puppy voted up though
 
@Puppy You somewhat broke it by calling it "Allow side effecting expressions in expression evaluation in C++", when that's not actually what you want to do.
 
@khajvah His profile picture is fake, but mine is real!
 
(Presumably you want them to stop falsely disallowing some non-side-effecting expressions)
So inb4 "no we don't support side-effecting expressions for X, Y, Z reason" without actually reading your post
 
11:11 AM
I had plastic surgery to make me look like a lambda/bind operator.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah, what I meant was that the only alternative is to think they do use debuggers, but make theirs crappy on purpose because they're jerks.
 
fucking automated hotlines
 
@Puppy WTH happened to that site. It (a) loaded within <2 minutes this time (b) let me cast a vote without going into a login loop across various subdomains o.O
 
wankas m8 innit
 
In fact it was "responsive" (I voted <20s)
 
11:12 AM
@FredOverflow I'd have sex with a lambda.
 
I WANT TO SPEAK TO A HUMAN OMG
 
Speaking?
 
Mar 9 at 14:48, by R. Martinho Fernandes
> I'd have sex with a lambda
 
Riposte
 
I will murder someone
And with their fucking posh brit accent it pisses me off
 
11:13 AM
@ParkYoung-Bae We're all human...?
 
@ParkYoung-Bae Even humans are dumb on hotlines. I once wanted to report an antenna issue to my operator
 
Please. Can we suggest candidates?
 
Press number 8 to get lost
 
The chick kept telling me I needed to call her at the place where the problem occurred
 
@FredOverflow Except the fucking morons who uptalk?
@ParkYoung-Bae Which episode?
 
11:14 AM
Oh god and now it's in cantonese
 
Xeo
@sehe That's uservoice, not connect :P
 
Ah.
I'm slightly unsurprised and redisappointed now
@ParkYoung-Bae Pushed the wrong random DTMF sequence there, mate
 
you do realise that money only work directly on humans - if you present a piece of meat on one hand & $100 bill on the other, most cats, dogs & magpies would go for meat
 
@chmod711telkitty ridiculous mind-exposing statement of the week
 
11:17 AM
slow bear :'(
 
@FredOverflow "Have I answered all your questions in a polite and competent way?" or something similar.
 
"I was trolling" // yup, fool me
 
@chmod711telkitty What if the magpie is addicted to coke and needs a $100 bill for snorting?
 
@sehe I WAS MARELY PRETENDING
 
11:18 AM
@orlp with external linkage, yeah sure. I used that the other day in that answer
 
I never knew
 
@FredOverflow what if the sun goes around the moon?
 
@orlp Sure, why not? You can also pass integers as template arguments. And other templates.
 
@BaummitAugen: btw, wtf happened in the washing room?
 
@orlp Oh, actually I removed it from that answer before I posted it. It was simpler with macro :( (Right now I could do without the struct, even)
Peeps / maybe you can /
Real life into /
Another room /
Tango
@chmod711telkitty It does.
 
11:21 AM
@Zeta The box with the lost and found cloths was burning. Plus a laundry rack.
 
so, in other news, I bought a bluetooth speaker yesterday
 
Luckily I had a cool beer.
 
and I'm so damn impressed by the sound quality, considering its size...
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow Because C++ is inconsistent as fuck.
 
@BartekBanachewicz phillips?
 
11:21 AM
Sol does go around all moons that are in solar systems positioned closer to the core of the milky way
 
@BaummitAugen To sip while you watched?
 
@SmartDev a bit higher quality
it's Denon Envaya Mini
 
@райтфолд Do you have a Bitbucket account? Or do you store everything on GitHub?
 
@chmod711telkitty So profound.
 
11:22 AM
@LucDanton Yep. Dorm life ftw. :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Accurate statement :/
 
it's really unbelievable how nice this thing sounds
they have a DSP that dynamically equalizes it so it's ok at all volume levels
 
@FredOverflow You have a very interesting dyslexia
 
@sehe It also goes around Earth, you filthy heliocentrist.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Great...Enjoy music..I wish to buy one high quality headphones
 
11:23 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Oh, it's a speaker? It thought it was a pencil case.
 
@SmartDev open or closed?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hey that’s one of my pet peeve, you too?
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow I use Bitbucket for private repositories.
 
11:24 AM
@райтфолд And for what reason are they private?
 
@BartekBanachewicz close
 
@LucDanton Being a geocentrist is my #2 line when I want to spark a controversial discussion.
(#1 being "I like imperial units")
 
here's a review of that denon, btw When hearing the Denon Envaya Mini it finally led me to the decision to sell all the other junk I was owning
 
Well that’s just hateful though.
 
TIL I have to sign on the back of my credit card
 
11:26 AM
@ParkYoung-Bae really?
 
I dunno if "I am a geocentrist" is truly accurate, but "I like imperial units" is.
 
yeah, cards are totes not legit unless you scribble on them
 
@BartekBanachewicz Apparently the white space is for that
 
@SmartDev thought about those?
 
@ParkYoung-Bae Have you had a card issued in France?
 
11:27 AM
Yes and I didn't sign that one. I have a new one in HK and they want me to sign it.
 
@ParkYoung-Bae not really as in "do you really have to sign" but "really" as in "you didn't know"?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I didn't know
 
@sehe Sorry.
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
Time to add lenses for more awesomeness.
 
11:28 AM
@ParkYoung-Bae Did you also know it’s not a credit card unless it visibly bears the mention 'Carte de crédit'?
 
@LucDanton But yes, I do have an irresistible urge to be a smartass whenever someone mentions that the planets revolve around the sun.
 
user1804599
And some things for dealing with data binding.
 
user1804599
Although that's trivial with lenses.
 
ah livescript is that bad purescript?
 
@LucDanton I don't care about credit TBH I just care about it being VISA or any other form of online payment (but no, I didn't know).
 
user1804599
11:29 AM
@BartekBanachewicz What is purescript?
 
user1804599
LiveScript is the good CoffeeScript.
 
@райтфолд purescript.org
@райтфолд or that.
 
user1804599
I don't know anything about PureScript.
 
user1804599
I luckily don't care about PureScript at all either.
 
Algebraic data types
Pattern matching
Type inference
Type classes
Higher kinded types
Rank-N types
Extensible records
Extensible effects
Modules
Simple FFI
No runtime system
Human-readable output
 
11:30 AM
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@ParkYoung-Bae And now this useless fact has replaced a useful one in your memory.
 
@райтфолд everything to know ^
 
Don't fall asleep on your keyboards, peeps.
 
@LucDanton I doubt it! I can't remember shit these days
Also I'm always confused as to which country you live in
 
Remember to sign your payment card.
 
11:31 AM
Ah, thanks, forgot
 
@ParkYoung-Bae Still in Bordeaux.
 
Then your sleep schedule is fucked up m8
 
What? This is a perfectly acceptable time to be awake.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Do they deliver product in India? Even they do, shipping charges will be high
 
@LucDanton I mean in the mornings (for me) you're already up
 
user1804599
11:32 AM
text-field = (lens) ->
    h \input, {
        value: get-state(lens)
        oninput: (.target.value) >> modify-state(lens)
    }
 
user1804599
Fucking awesome.
 
33 secs ago, by Luc Danton
What? This is a perfectly acceptable time to be awake.
etc.
 
@райтфолд Is this: Whatever => the same as self: Whatever => at the beginning of a class body?
 
Alright then.
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow No.
 
user1804599
11:33 AM
The latter creates an alias for this named self.
 
And why would I want that?
 
@ParkYoung-Bae You know those websites that try to predict what timezone you are in based on your Github/social media habits? I’m trying to fudge those!
 
Great success
 
if those services try to predict my timezone
they will say I'm in the ISS
 
You couldn't predict what timezone I'm in even based on my RL habits. That's probably a bad sign.
 
11:35 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes My commits are real dammit!
 
@orlp Why is that? You adjust your sleep for upcoming EVAs?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes EVA?
 
Extra-vehicular activity. Anything being done by an astronaut outside a spacecraft.
 
well I'm not an astronoeaueiaut
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 'vehicular' always sounds like an awkward word, like it gives you an hiccup to say it
@orlp then what you doing on the ISS?
 
11:37 AM
@SmartDev not sure why they shouldn't? No distributor?
 
@orlp But why would they think you're in the ISS, then?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes because I'm all over the place
 
The ISS crew schedule shifts as necessary for whatever activities they need to perform (EVAs being merely an example).
 
but in general
 
@orlp The ISS crew has a rather rigid schedule.
 
11:38 AM
Isn't that a terrorist group
 
yeah didn't think my joke through too much
@ParkYoung-Bae no, that's tumblr
I go to bed when tired and wake up when not tired anymore
 
Anywhore, it's weeeeeeekend, cya~~
 
@ParkYoung-Bae the lounge is your job?
 
@orlp And the ISS timezone is UTC, btw.
 
@ParkYoung-Bae I'll have a clean one please.
 
11:40 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes what time zone is mars?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Why does a fan heater need a frequency-response curve?
 
@orlp Astronauts use UTC everywhere.
No human has ever left Earth's SOI, though (well, you can argue that with the Moon, maybe).
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah, but what about mars? need answr pls help me with assignment
 
@orlp lol
 
typical SO response :D
 
11:41 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes that you know off
@orlp vOv UTC
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hey it’s Universal, doesn’t matter!
 
@thecoshman Drat! Beat me.
 
@thecoshman thanks kind sir i will ignore and not upvote ur answer now while i never return to site
 
@LucDanton Just means the studios.
 
11:43 AM
@thecoshman Well, actually, I guess one could argue Dobrovolsky, Volkov, and Patsayev did leave Earth's SOI.
Not like they went somewhere else, though :( RIP
 
anyone here use vim?
 
if so, I can highly recommend this plugin: github.com/gcmt/wildfire.vim
bind it to <ENTER> in normal mode and operator pending mode
 
@LucDanton Comcast Coordinated Time, TTC for short.
(no typos; I picked the acronym in a similar vein to how UTC was picked)
 
c<ENTER> to change whatever you're standing on, just <ENTER> to select it
 
11:44 AM
@orlp Not tpope.
NOT TPOPE
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes So did Grissom, Chaffee and White
 
HOW DARE YOU
 
CAUSE TPOPE SUCKS
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'd say it's easier to argue that when you orbiting the moon, your primate SOI is the moon... so humans have left Earth's SOI as their primary one...
 
kicks orlp
 
11:45 AM
 
@thecoshman I inb4ed already. yawn
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ?
 
IEM starting
 
oh right :P
helps if I read
do we even have an agreement on what 'leaving SOI' actually means?
 
11:47 AM
No. Which is why I decided to cover my bases.
@orlp Consider yourself kicked.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes why
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: All hail tpope, goddess of vim. loungecpp.net/the-law/newbie-hints [c++] [c++11] [c++14] [c++-faq]
2
 
I suppose Lagrange point is one fairly good way of determining when you transition from one primary to another...
 
@thecoshman m₀/d₀² > m₁/d₁²
 
@thecoshman Doesn’t apply if you go from here to Mars, no?
 
11:50 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes more or less
@LucDanton well you wouldn't go from Earth being the largest influence to Mars in one transition... well you might, but it would more efficient to swing past other bodies.
Maybe for humans though we would be favouring time more than fuel efficiency...
 
@thecoshman Like Mars.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well, the moon
maybe take a swing down past venus vOv
 
So, where are the Lagrange points then.
 
@thecoshman All irrelevant. There are no Venus-Earth L-points.
 
I guess they wouldn't be a good marker
 
11:53 AM
> Your eye will probably notice this before you do, but to maintain a calm and pleasing visual expression, selected holes on Beoplay A2 grill are filled
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no?
erm.. are L-points where the N bodies have a net effect of not pulling you in any one direction?
 
@thecoshman No, because Venus doesn't orbit Earth. (Putting down my geocentrist hat for a moment)
 
AFAIK it’s for a 2-body system. Where yeah I guess they are significant with respect to SoI (although there’s plenty of, well, space to go without even nearing a L point).
 
@thecoshman Yes, and there are no such points between Venus and Earth.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Shirley not
 
11:55 AM
> 180 W peak power provided by 2x30 W digital class D amplifiers
lmao /cc @MartinJames
 
@thecoshman New Horizons was launched directly into solar escape velocity, btw.
 
@thecoshman It’s the big orange in the middle.
 
Big fucken rockets are a thing.
 
"the most hipster photo of the year" award
 
11:56 AM
No more trash problems!
 
@thecoshman At any given time, there are points where the gravitational pull of Venus and of Earth are equal. That's not the same as a Lagrange point.
 
I guess I shouldn’t say 'it only applies to the 2-body problem', more like 'n-body will fuck you up'.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Nice:) Better than the firebottle amps that tend to get posted here.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ooooh
 
Lagrange points allow an object to stay there, i.e., the gravitational pull is always equal.
 
11:57 AM
then I still don't understand what those things are :P
¬_¬ clean up please
 
@MartinJames The Bang&Olufsen one (claiming 180W) is 3 times more {expensive, heavy, bulky} than the Denon I bought tho
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Does there not need to be some potential well, or something, to keep them stable?
 
That being said, 180W is so freaking unrealistic.
 
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the power of automation :P
 
Whereas between Earth and Venus such points move around as Venus moves around Earth (geocentrist hat back on just to confuse).
 
11:59 AM
Google Exporter
 
@MartinJames Some of the Lagrange points are unstable (saddle points).
 

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