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7:00 PM
std::for_each would work but then I would have to bind, and I want something simpler than that.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Because you are a lonely sad broken robot.
 
@VáclavZeman for ~$3.5 apiece, I got as diverse knives as I could, so I can try them out and see what I prefer using for things
they're a bit hardcore for my skills
but hey, I could get them so why not
I'm a bit sad that I had no vouchers for the set of two steak knives (small)
I have vouchers for the fish knife that I do not want... maybe I can somehow trade them (they're equal in value) and get the steak knives
like, mark both knives off but only give me the steak knives
 
I wouldn't say no to them. OK, preparing veg might still not be fun, but is would prolly be quicker.
 
I wonder if the barcode isn't stored globally in their database somehow
technically they scanned the barcode for the chef's knife voucher, but didn't mark it with ink shit or w/e they use, so it can be scanned again
 
@caps At least at first glance, that sounds like you want std::transform.
 
7:06 PM
but if they store sold products globally, I suspect I won't be able to get another knife
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Don't like knives?
 
user1804599
@AlexM. They're so beautiful they're full of beauty.
 
1 hour to compile pandoc
jesus christ
 
@caps yeah. Tldr the reason is clearer expression of intent
 
user1804599
Reimplementing the algorithm is a room for mistakes.
 
7:15 PM
@Jefffrey Yes, my son? Dost thou need help with thy patience? As my brother once told me, when you're going through the checkout at the supermarket, always go to the line with the prettiest checkout girl. The line won't move any faster, but you won't mind how long it takes nearly as much.
 
user1804599
It's just duplicate code, which is bad.
 
my heavy coat's zipper broke today
I have to get a needle and thread to reinforce the buttons
otherwise I'm fucked
it's -10C right now and I wouldn't be surprised if it drops to -20 again soon
 
Ok, pandoc is fucking awesome.
 
@JerryCoffin at my groceries the choice can be tough. Seriously, I suspect them to hire from a casting agency
 
@sehe lol ToughUglyBastards.com.
 
7:20 PM
did we ever try to inter-breed humans with something else
it started off as a joke based on catgirls in my head but then it got interesting
have we ever tried to get things from other animals to make up for the disadvantages we have
e.g. better sense of smell, or better sight
 
lol, today's 2nd entry for 'Clueless':
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27805569/why-wont-my-code-run-second-time
 
im sure there are plenty of hilarious misadventures wrt inter breeding in the annals of history somewhere
 
@sehe Must be something about the far north--sounds a lot like when I visited Russia (St. Petersburg).
 
@Pris In Rocester, you don't have to go back all that far.. :)
 
@JerryCoffin Mental note: visit Leningrad
@JerryCoffin FWIW I don't consider Rotterdam "Far North". But yeah. It's nice when that happens
 
7:24 PM
@sehe Your gravatar gains you several degrees of honorary latitude.
 
I'm probably the northest in this chat.
 
@orlp How big was your tensor for the problem?
 
thanks for your answers. When I used Dylan Corriveau's way, it worked but i couldn't get space. I used gets(string), it worked even with ptr=new char[30], i think it is the right way. But can you explain me why we can not use ptr=new char[30] with scanf or with cin>> ??? — Ruồi Trâu 2 hours ago
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@MohammadAliBaydoun tiny
 
@JohanLarsson Sweden... yup, prolly.
 
7:27 PM
@MohammadAliBaydoun though I just never made the tensor, just used T[l][m] = j
 
@MartinJames Chances are you have more snow. We have none.
 
@orlp I was potentially going to make a 30x10 tensor :|
 
user1804599
Guys.
3
 
that's tiny
 
Oh okay ;~;
I thought tiny was like 3x10
 
7:29 PM
@JohanLarsson There's been a bit, yes. Not too bad this year - it's unseasonably warm ATM. I can walk dog in t and shorts, (if it's a short walk:).
 
@rightføld Check your male privilege.
 
user1804599
What is a good graphics card?
 
user1804599
I want a good gaming experience.
 
user1804599
Like being able to play Minecraft and Ground Zeroes highest settings at 1080p at 60 FPS.
 
I use a radeon r9 280x
 
7:31 PM
I have a GTX 670, and Minecraft with its highest settings reaches 1100 FPS in fullscreen
So 60 FPS should be no problem
 
user1804599
But I don't know shit about hardware.
 
user1804599
@MohammadAliBaydoun 1100 FPS.
 
Ell
@rightføld for what budget?
 
Well yeah, it's not that intensive ;_;
 
user1804599
@Ell entire computer at most €1200.
 
7:34 PM
Get either a GTX 970 or a R9 280 or a R9 290
those are best bang/buck with high performance ATM for medium-high end systems (1200 euros is around there)
 
user1804599
Fuck, my lexer lexes forEach as for keyword followed by Each identifier.
 
@JohanLarsson Probably--the other obvious candidate would be @EtiennedeMartel, but if memory serves he's in Montreal, which is at the southern edge of Canada--essentially the same latitude as where I grew up in South Dakota (45.5 degrees).
 
I'm at 60 something. Was born @65.
 
@rightføld You can save money by omitting the keyboard
 
user1804599
I already have a keyboard.
 
7:37 PM
@JerryCoffin Also I think I must reject your hypothesis.
 
No one needs to hear your opinions on the internet wrongfold
 
@rightføld Do you still live with your parents?
 
wrongfold
 
rudefold
 
crudefold
 
7:39 PM
What the fold?
 
user1804599
@JohanLarsson Yes. :<
 
<- OutOfEngrishException
 
@JohanLarsson What hypothesis is that?
 
I ordered a new keyboard
can't wait until it arrives
 
Looks cute. Although I personally prefer those with a dedicated keypad.
 
7:40 PM
@JerryCoffin The north > hot checkouts
 
what do I need a keypad for?
 
mmm. okay
Well played
 
user1804599
Keypads are rediculous.
 
(it has Khalih brown switches, gna mod them to MX clears)
 
@rightføld And no car? 5x that budget if so.
 
7:41 PM
@E_net4 my wife has one :)
 
Well, good to know, I guess...
 
user1804599
Keypad: making switching to mouse take even more time since the 20th century.
 
@JohanLarsson Oh--I'd pretty much forgotten that by now. It was like, 10 minutes ago...
 
if I ever need a keypad (I don't), I'd buy a dedicated one and put it to the left of me
 
To the left? :s
 
7:42 PM
I want a gaming keyboard that's beautiful and mechanical
for some reason they're hard to find
Roccat Isku is nice but isn't mechanical
 
@E_net4 Yes, so I don't have to move my hand very far to the mouse
 
and the keys seem really flat
 
@AlexM. define "gaming" keyboard and define "beautiful"
 
@AlexM. Mechanical is certainly easy: daskeyboard.com
 
@JerryCoffin das keyboard is overpriced for a mechanical
 
7:43 PM
^ beautiful but non-mechanical
 
user1804599
Scissor switch master race.
 
 
user1804599
@AlexM. -1 Keys are too small.
 
user1804599
@orlp ^
 
that one is mechanical, and I'd argue it's better for gaming
 
7:44 PM
the razer blackwidow is ok-ish but dunno :\
 
@JerryCoffin 'Completely blank keyboard ' - WTF?
 
yours doesn't even have macro keys wtf
what kind of gaming do you want to do with that
 
well at least I can fucking reach f1-f5
what do I need macro keys for?
I have autohotkey
 
Watch out, we have a pro-gamer over here. :P
 
inb4 orlp's idea of a game for which you need gaming gear is civilization
 
7:45 PM
besides, I've owned a g15 for years
 
what keyboards do you all program with
 
haven't ever used any of the "gaming" keys
except one, which was a boss kill-switch
 
I just use this Microsoft Keyboard
 
Tesoro has some nice keyboards that I'd like
they're kinda new to the market but they seem to know what they're doing
 
@AlexM. Personally, the #1 priority for a "gaming" keyboard IMO is accessible f1-f5
 
7:46 PM
@E_net4 not really
 
of course mechanical, that is a given
 
I'm just pretty able to tell the use of extra macro keys to which you can bind actions lol
 
I had a gaming keyboard. It was so nosy I woke gf even if I was in another room typing. Puppy chopped the cable for it.
 
there's plenty of stuff I want to bind in CS for example
 
@AlexM. Your interest in dedicated macro keys seems to state the contrary. x)
 
7:47 PM
right now I'm overusing the numpad
 
@AlexM. Have you ever used such a keyboard?
I have, I didn't find a use for it
 
 
if you really "require" those macro keys I can not help you further and you'll be stuck with an overpriced shit board
@Pris that's horrific
 
i have that... best keyboard ever
 
stop talking out of your ass nightcracker
please, at least for once
 
7:48 PM
its amazing... whats wrong with it?
 
I thought you plonked me
 
user1804599
Logitech.
 
or I plonked you
what the hell happened
 
No?
 
I currently use a Logitech, but when I get a chance I think I'll at least try out a Unicomp.
 
7:49 PM
I never plonked anyone
 
@Pris lol where is insert?
 
above delete
 
user1804599
Who needs insert.
 
user1804599
Fuck insert.
 
I have a bog-standard Cherry KB that I scrounged from the pile of old, dead boxes in our shed.
 
7:49 PM
long delete is handy for me... i use it way more than insert
 
user1804599
I removed insert from my work keyboard.
 
user1804599
As well as page up and page down.
 
user1804599
 
7:50 PM
^ if you're looking for info to buy a good keyboard
 
the only thing i dont like about my keyboard is that its not chiclet style... but the keys are perfect. not loud mechanicals, but quiet scissor switches
 
@MartinJames my keyboard is many years old, was $10 when I got it, dropped to $5 a few years ago, and for a reason I can't explain it was re-released and now costs $20
 
My insert is missing too. Also scroll-lock keytop is moved to F12.
Mebbe it's time to invest in a new KB.
 
My insert key from my previous laptop just popped off one day. Never knew exactly why.
 
When an opportunity comes along to buy them, I'm going to buy an ergodox probably
 
7:53 PM
@E_net4 Beating the computer against the brick wall after you ran into that memory overwrite bug may have had a little to do with it though...
 
how do you know what each key does
there are no labels on that thing
 
@JerryCoffin I would've considered that if I were a sleep walker. But beating stuff against brick walls is a no-no for me. :P
 
@Pris Touch typing?
 
He just imagines what he wants to type, and presses random keys.
 
Also, attend to the random monkey theorem. :>
 
user1804599
7:56 PM
 
user1804599
Master race.
 
@rightføld I'd probably have trouble accustoming to that
 
@rightføld looks like controls for a futuristic mecha
 
user1804599
Metal Gear?!
 
@Pris There's an old story about a guy who could only log into his computer when he was sitting down--if he tried to log in standing up, it always failed. Attempts by others confirmed this happened. Turns out two key-caps were swapped. When sitting everybody touch-typed, and ignored the swapped key-caps. When standing up, they looked at the keys and mis-typed based on the swapped key-caps.
 
7:57 PM
Also what I really like about the ergodox is that you have full control over the controller, so you can program the keyboard exactly as you want it (want that button to be an extra modifier? no problem)
 
@JerryCoffin What's the point of beating the computer against a wall? It's easier to hit the KB with your head or flog it to death with a wired mouse.
 
> accustoming
 
@MartinJames You'd have to ask him why he did it.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit is that not enlangdo?
 
@orlp looks edible
 
7:58 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit not for ages < 4 sorry
 
I don't like when the sockets are visible through the casing; makes me feel like they're really fragile, just perched there on the PCB
 
@JerryCoffin I can believe that. I don't think I could draw all the keys on a keyboard out but dont really have any issues touch typing. muscle memory is freaky
 
(Somehow when the insides are invisible this doesn't not occur)
@Pris I could draw them out but I'd have to go through the physical motions of tapping out the alphabet and a bunch of symbols, first :)
 
I think it's a sign of how cheap storage is these days when I completely forgot that I have a 3TB drive as my 'main' drive...
 
I used muscle memory to answer a Christmas quiz question about how many consonants there are on the QWERTY row... then I got it wrong because by the time I'd finished, three seconds later, I'd forgotten the question and wrote down the number of vowels instead. :(
 
8:00 PM
half of which isn't even mounted... for no good reason really
 
@thecoshman sshfs for me to use plz
cos that's how it works
 
@Pris My best story about muscle memory: a few years ago I picked up a Rubik's cube after not having seen one in years. Turns out I could still do it--but if I watched during any of the complicated algorithms, I got confused and had to start over. Had to do them entirely from muscle memory.
 
well, it was nice being home. pub time. bai
 
@Nican boo hiss
 
user1804599
I want to make a video game.
 
8:03 PM
@rightføld Go for it.
 
@rightføld a game where you try to play a video
 
make a game using opengl... graphics dev is fun
 
> fatal error C1061: compiler limit : blocks nested too deeply
the fuck
 
user1804599
no, it's not
 
user1804599
it's terrible
 
8:05 PM
I just used an else-if, with only ~65 ifs
 
@Pris said the patient on his way to the padded cell
 
its fun once you get the nightmare fuel set up and version-specific BS out of the way
havent you ever gotten lost tweaking shaders for neat effects
 
@Pris it's fun once anything gl specific is abstracted away
 
user1804599
@Pris No, it's really not.
 
user1804599
@thecoshman No, still not.
 
8:08 PM
@rightføld true
 
You guys are terrible
I love you
 
idunno, i find that phase once you get setup out of the way to be pretty fun. you can also use something like openscenegraph if you want most of the nastiness taken out of opengl
ill admit that the worst debugging sessions ive had were graphics related though
 
@thecoshman A lot (and I do mean a lot) depends on how comfortable you are with basic geometry/trigonometry. If you have any difficulty with that, it'll probably always be a struggle. If you grasp that well, a lot of what's left is just syntax.
 
@JerryCoffin the maths is easy, dealing with gl or d3d is not.
 
user1804599
No, the maths is the difficult part.
 
user1804599
8:13 PM
Fuck geometry and fuck linear algebra and fuck trigonometry.
 
and then you have to start fucking around with all the data structures, all of which suck for some terrible terrible reason
 
@thecoshman I find GL a lot easier to deal with than D3D, but most of the GL code I've written is now basically obsolete, using techniques nobody approves of any more.
 
@JerryCoffin yeah, that just adds to the tedium
but then I find that more or less anything that involve graphics reduces me to depresive rage
even windowing toolkits, or web stuff
 
@thecoshman I find most web stuff depressing, simply on the grounds that we could/should do so much better, and most web stuff is basically sand castles we treat as if they were real dwellings.
 
I like server side stuff
basically, I don't like programming for humans :P
 
8:27 PM
@thecoshman I don't mind the idea of doing UI stuff, but find most UI toolkits clumsy, painful, and poorly designed.
 
@JerryCoffin yeah
 
Ell
Anybody: What markup language would you like to document code in? AsciiDoc? Markdown?
 
it's tempting to 'try to fix it' but I fear what ever anyone does is just going to add to the shit
 
@Ell Yes.
 
@Ell self documenting code fool
 
user1804599
8:30 PM
@Ell Plain text.
 
@thecoshman I'm less concerned with adding to the shit than with the simple fact that you end up having to write gargantuan amounts of code before you can even get started with using something enough to have an idea of whether your basic approach is worthwhile at all. I suspect the maintainers realize most current ones suck, but they're just too large an investment to throw away and start over--especially when nobody's entirely sure the new version would be much better.
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun there we go, all bug-free and clean
runs in 0.3 sec
 
@JerryCoffin have you tried qt quick?
 
@JerryCoffin it really should be a simple thing though. I think trying to not offer every way of doing stuff would help.
 
Ell
@JerryCoffin I think the last sentence is the most important one here
People don't even know what they want it to look like
(the code)
 
user1804599
8:38 PM
hey stackoverflow redirects to localhost
 
user1804599
epic fail
 
lolwut
 
@Pris No--I've used Qt a little and didn't like it a whole lot. I believe they have it for desktops now, but the last time I glanced at Qt Quick, it was only for phones and such, which weren't a target for what I was doing at the time, so I ignored them.
 
@rightføld It is Travis script
 
user1804599
No just Stack Overflow.
 
user1804599
8:39 PM
It redirects to 127.0.0.1.
 
hello from the pub
 
qt quick was never for phones only, in fact it supported desktop only first... and its really quite good, you should give it a shot if you end up needing to non-forms based ui
 
user1804599
» curl -I stackoverflow.com
HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily
…
Location: 127.0.0.1
 
I should download all the Stack Overflow to my hard drive in case they shut down
 
@Ell Right--and the few who (apparently) do apparently consider dynamic allocation a religious rite that should be repeated as often as possible.
 
8:41 PM
@rightfold norepro
dns stackoverflow.com plz
 
user1804599
Ah it just got fixed.
 
sure
bloody trolls
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Hi from the not-pub
 
well here too SO redirected to 127.0.0.1
could reproduce it
 
@Pris I'll keep it in mind if the need arise again. Most of what I do right now barely even has a command-line UI.
 
8:42 PM
0
A: What is the name of the "-->" operator?

sy19890515I dont understand why there exist people thinking that this is a "goes to" operator. If it is, then the result printed out should be either "10... 1" or "10... 0" instead of "9... 0".

 
is there a stack overflow data dump?
@Mysticial I call it the "shank in anus" operator
 
user1804599
@Mysticial Ugh why did all those funny answers get deleted?
 
We are aware of routing issues coming into our NYC data center and investigating
 
user1804599
Fuck mods.
 
Oh good, a new charge of £1.6k has been distributed across this year's remaining installments. Yay.
 
8:50 PM
@JerryCoffin I was, thank you. I didn't think to look in the modifying algorithms section of my reference.
 
We have resolved the 127.0.0.1 redirect issue but are still investigating why BGP did not failover properly.
 
@rightføld Thanks, that was awesome.
 
I found a theme for loungecppdotnet kristopolous.github.io/BOOTSTRA.386
 
@thecoshman huh?
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus geostrap
 
user1804599
9:00 PM
@CatPlusPlus at least turn off antialiasing
 
@Nican I've yet to work out the point of the CODE vs a normal WASD
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
@rightføld no
 
@CatPlusPlus sure
 
user1804599
It looks terrible.
 
9:01 PM
Not like antialiasing on is the problem
@rightføld What's the name of this thing?
 
user1804599
datahand
 
user1804599
read the fucking filename
 
You are always so agitated.
Relax. Fap.
 
user1804599
I am always calm.
 
You swear all the time
 
9:08 PM
just realised the blue in the blue screen of death is annoying ... it's not the type of soothing blue or calm dark blue - it is bright, panicking blue
 
That's the idea.
 
I read this is the board with more female population. Would you kindly post your feet gals?
 
lol 'Efficient XML parser [on hold]' - sounds about right:)
@chmod711telkitty The blue is not a lock. IIRC, you can have the SOD any colour you wish.
 
> Your typing speed is 36% faster* than the speed of an average typist!
yay
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey link
 
user1804599
> Your typing speed is 111% faster* than the speed of an average typist!
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
jefff you suck
 
Xeo
whee, (white) chocolate mousse done.
 
GET parameter manipulation is fun
 
user1804599
9:20 PM
lol
 
Hmm.. I fancy a cheddar sandwich with chilli pickle. If I had bread, cheddar and chilli pickle, I would be set up. Since I have none of them, I need to shop again.
 
user1804599
 
always nice when I get weird shit like this
 
@milleniumbug lol
 
9:22 PM
this reminded me that in the credits of one of our games there's this guy called something like Credits_Person_Name_Slot_07
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey in Vim I'm even faster.
 
user1804599
In this crappy editor I cannot edit mistakes easy.
 
user1804599
In Vim I just retype the entire word when I made a single mistake and it's much faster because I have a two-key shortcut for <esc>bce.
 
user1804599
Let's do a different text.
 
user1804599
9:26 PM
 
You guys are fucking with me
 
user1804599
I should become a live subtitle writer.
 
did I do this right typingtest.com/…
 
user1804599
lol you suck
 
k :(
 
user1804599
9:29 PM
You guys are all terrible at typing.
 
let's see how well do I do on mobile
 
I largely suck
 
I code in Haskell so I semantically write more than you do.
Can't test on mobile :c
 
rightfold codes in Clojure so he's semantically more able than any of us to parenthesize things correctly
 
user1804599
Unfortunately there aren't many parentheses in the text.
 
user1804599
9:32 PM
I should try it in Safari which autocorrects spelling mistakes. :P
 
user1804599
So I can just type without vowels and shit and it will still be OK.
 
user1804599
Scissor switch master race.
 
woof woof
 
puppy changed avatars
:O
 
user1804599
@Puppy cute pic
 
9:41 PM
why thank you
 
the fact that things are so far away in space that light takes so long to reach us is fascinating
we are technically able to see the past from the present
 
user1804599
@Puppy why not
 
in fact, seeing the present is impossible
 
the fact that light travels at a given speed is not fascinating
 
@AndyProwl well yes
 
9:44 PM
what's fascinating is that the speed of light is so special compared to other speeds.
 
unless the distance between the viewer and the light source is 0
there will always be a delay
 
the fact that it travels at a given speed in any frame is fascinating
 
so we never see the present
 
For practical purposes, we just say we are.
 
9:59 PM
@sehe: sorting two sequences based on keys in one of the two sequences is one of the example I had mentioned to Eric where I think property maps work better. I'm not, yet, in the position to profile the two approaches: assuming a relaxed iterator definition not requiring references to be returned, proxy iterators should work without property maps. I believe it is easier done and can be more efficient with property maps.
 

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