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3:02 AM
ok
 
What do you guys think of git submodules? Am I making a terrible mistake by using that to add a dependency to my project?
 
They are nice for that.
I recently had to build QEMU, and instead of fighting with the ancient RHEL6.5 I had to build on, the configure script itself gave me commands to init and download the missing dependencies.
 
Look at that, the integrated GPU takes up most of the processor die.
 
@Nooble Is that the broadwell chip?
 
@Mysticial Should be, it's 5th gen.
Of course it's the lower end ones, spotting only 2 cores.
 
3:17 AM
They will not announce the higher-end parts at CES.
@Nooble Because for consumer products 8-core would be a waste.
Also GPUs tend to be simpler and I think they would have higher yields.
 
@MarkGarcia Er.. 5930K and 5960X's are not higher-end?
They've already been announced.
 
link?
IIRC they haven't announced 4 cores.
 
Does the system agent still transmit data to the NSA?
 
@Mikhail It always has been. In this time and age, there is no need to backup your data. The NSA has all of it.
3
 
I have that chip.
 
Why on earth.
 
@Nooble yep
 
I literally just built one with it over Christmas.
 
@Mysticial =) Me too
 
3:21 AM
Where are all of you people getting this money?
 
I live with my parents. So I have no rent to pay.
 
@Nooble Google has @Mysticial funded. :)
 
@MarkGarcia I was just about to say.
 
@Nooble I get paid to work.
 
It's not like anyone here works for Google or anything (wink wink)
 
3:23 AM
@CaptainGiraffe pics or it didn't happen. :)
 
@Mysticial No, I just screwed the case back together. It won't happen! It was hard work, well maybe I can find the boxes somewhere
 
@Mysticial With regards to your winter build, did you also happen to get 4 GTX 980's and 3 4K monitors?
Living the good life, I see.
 
@Nooble no
Nothing special about it - other than being towards the higher end.
 
@Nooble I got a measley 970 config
 
the new nvidia GPU's are overrated, they just put 2 GPU's in one slot and dumped the programming burden on the dev
 
3:25 AM
@Nooble He's more of a CPU guy.
 
@MarkGarcia I see. But why the 750Ti? That's a budget card. You could've gotten a lot more performance for the same price with the R9-270X
 
@MarkGarcia ...and memory and hard drives. Lots of memory and hard drives.
 
@Nooble I won't care too if I buy something low. :)
 
@Nooble I don't normally buy things that I don't need.
And as of right now, I don't need a super high-end video card.
 
3:28 AM
I just looked around for pic proof, all I have left is the McAfee offer LiveSafe offer. Sad state of affairs.
 
@Mysticial In this case, he's not talking "super high end"--just "not quite the bottom of the low end". ;-)
 
@MarkGarcia It's missing the other 2 4TB HDD's. He must've been using them.
 
@Mysticial Now we just need to have an API for FOI requests. :)
 
@MarkGarcia The only way to get the NSA to cough up a copy of your data is to get a court order. The best way to do that is to commit a crime and save all the evidence to your hard drive.
 
@Mysticial Ah. /b/ crimes to be more specific. ;)
 
3:37 AM
@Mysticial I think some would disagree about whether that was the best way. I think the ideal would be to do something that the NSA would think was a crime so you'd be taken to court, but the court would definitely acquit you. Unfortunately, I'm not at all sure such a thing actually exists.
 
Does this apply to Stack Overflow and thus to Vlad?
> Reports emerged that Google was considering shutting its engineering office of 50 employees [...] Adobe was last year the first known Western major company shut its offices in the country.
Poor vlad. No wonder he's still unemployed.
 
@MarkGarcia I would think not. SO is quite outside Russias jurisdiction.
 
@CaptainGiraffe But would he be considered a blogger of some sort?
 
So, how true is this?
d
 
Anyway, I have to go. Bye all.
 
3:53 AM
@MarkGarcia That seems to depend almost entirely on the degree (if any) to which the officials notice what he says/doe. As long as he sticks to (even crappy) C++, chances are they couldn't care less. If he talked about politics (or anything similar) that could change almost instantly though.
 
 
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5:07 AM
I just wrote the biggest comment ever for 1 LOC
 
@orlp it would be funny if it was commented out
 
lol
 
lol
 
I edited the gist
should be less confusing now :P
Trees are fun to think about/code when you understand them
 
Have you ever needed to leave comments for a comment?
 
5:10 AM
then you wake up the next morning, look at your code and give up
@Mysticial // TODO: fix this stuff // TODO: specify the TODO better
 
Yes
 
Now it becomes interesting when you need an uncountable amount of TODOs for your TODOs
 
-1
Q: How do i resolve these errors in c++?

overexchangeI wrote my first program using C++11 thread feature, that is build in "eclipse juno" #include <iostream> #include <thread> void thFunc() { std::cout << "Hi from thread\n"; } int main() { std::thread th(&thFunc); std::cout << "Hi from main!\n"; th.join(); return 0; } I f...

am stuck with this error
 
too bad
 
c:\mingw\gcc\include\c++\4.9.1` has thread` class
as per the includes setting
please help me
 
5:18 AM
Hah!
My comment of 30 lines had a bug in it too, a change is necessary for both
 
You should leave a comment explaining what was wrong with your comment and how it was fixed.
 
@Mysticial first I need to write a TODO and an implementation plan for leaving a comment explaining what was wrong with the original comment and how it was fixed
 
@orlp You probably need a planning meeting to plan the commenting process. But you probably don't want to jump directly into that meeting without a pre-meeting meeting to plan the process for the meeting.
 
Don't forget to inline the change made to the code as well and document that change. This should be done recursively.
 
@JerryCoffin can we build a voting committee to vote on the elected members of the parliament for our new ministry for this meeting?
 
5:25 AM
@orlp First you'll need a parliamentary sub-committee to decide on the rules for the voting committee to follow.
 
And then a sub-sub-committee and a board of directors to decide who should be in the parliamentary sub-committee.
 
@JerryCoffin Instructions unclear, dick stuck in META. Please start the initiation of forming a committe to create a plan and infrastructure for the debate over when to send help.
 
I hate databases =/
 
@orlp Read through the next couple of days from there...
 
5:41 AM
"I like my status reports rendered in 3D, but don't spend too much time on it."
 
6:30 AM
Anybody around to add some delete votes? stackoverflow.com/a/27793209/179910
Clearly plagiarized from Dr. Dobbs: drdobbs.com/cpp/c11-uniqueptr/240002708
 
Better to flag than delete
 
@CatPlusPlus Already did.
Took too long, but apparently a mod got around to deleting it.
Hm...looking at things, it says it was deleted by the owner. Anyway, regardless of who actually deleted it, at least it's gone now.
What do you think? Is this a valid dupe for this?
 
7:10 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes sorry man, you have to buy a this shirt
 
7:20 AM
@JerryCoffin good spot. Things like this show what we need community members for. Did you ever get your swag? You deserve it a lot :)
@thecoshman Gratz at your :20800000 "get"
@thecoshman On the contrary, you have to buy it for him :)
@JerryCoffin It didn't sit well with me that he could simply undelete any moment. This way we won't have to babysit that post quite so intensively... I hope
 
@sehe oh, well thank you :)
 
@JerryCoffin Yes
 
@sehe oooh no, I've got that fool gifts before, it's someone else's job to look after him
 
7:54 AM
> You've made an enemy today Oatmeal. Implying magic eye books aren't the future of literature was a grave error...
 
8:13 AM
@sehe Nothing yet.
@sehe That's a pretty interesting job of editing. You could almost get a job for a newspaper or something like that.
 
8:50 AM
oh, this explains why I can't find any recent articles on it, "Nautilus-Elementary is dead, long live ‘Marlin’"
 
:D hehe
Anything after 27 words tends to loose the audience anyway :)
 
 
> I hear they're hiring down at McDonalds. Enjoy your new job flipping burgers.
What kind of FAQ is this
 
It's an ad for McDonalds HR.
 
9:06 AM
Found this on Google Images
~~~~ Magic ~~~~
 
hey, I have a question, for c++ we have for multithreading this class "IAsyncResult" from the namespace System. Now I need to create an Async function for windows phone, and this class cannot be found in the namespace: Windows::System (and the first namespace is not available), Does anyone know where I can find this class in order to make the async function?
 
9:39 AM
that's not C++. And it's .NET BCL 4+. Google? Search Stack Overflow
 
@sehe It's C++/CX.
 
Ah, the namespace gave away it isn't /cli
Hi there btw
 
it's c++/cx
 
hi robot
 
anyhow, is this the way to create a new thread in c++/cx?
 
9:41 AM
This is the way to get very unpopular in the lounge
 
unpopular, peasant
 
:)) well sorry for not being a c++/cx expert
I hate it so much, I would do anything to go back to a c# or java project
 
@Puppy oh. In Dutch it's impopulair, peasant :)
 
Xeo
@rosualin Neither are we
 
@rosualin What makes you think we are?
 
9:43 AM
@rosualin please do
 
:))) well I was thinking atleast one of u guts, from a c++ lounge worked with multithreading in c++
 
you have all of our support ... now only if you could start with going to a C# or java room, it would be great for all of us
 
@rosualin We have. But you are not asking about C++.
 
some of us do, but we do not want to keep you in C++ room any longer
 
also, we are not here to answer questions
 
9:45 AM
the thing is, I like c++, and am trying to learn it, but with the documentation it has on this
 
I heard the PHP chatroom has top-notch experts on C++/CX
 
@chmod711telkitty No need to spew abuse like that.
 
there's no namespace System in standard C++
 
Lounge<Magic>
 
thanks Scarlet
 
9:46 AM
you're most welcome
is there anything else I can be utterly unhelpful with?
 
hey!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the user expressed interest to go back to C# & java? keeping a person against his/her will is called kidnapping ...
 
yo!
 
You guys being nice to people?
What is going on?
 
I think you're blind
 
9:47 AM
Sigh
I think you people are allergic to being decent
Every. Fucking. Time.
 
@Jefffrey we are not, we are just being mean towards each other ...
 
@ScarletAmaranth, no thanks, not yet, I'm back to the drawing board, to see what I can use for multithreading
 
also why is puppy always calling out to robot, I am all suspicious ...
 
@chmod711telkitty I don't get this, with C++, people always have to be mean with others, Why? I mean, I know it's one of the most complex and best programming languages, but when you are new to it, that makes it impossible to learn, because everything you do, you just get downvoted on stackoverflow, of kicked out of chats
 
Xeo
@rosualin You are not learning C++, though.
You are currently learning C++/CX, it seems
Which is a completely different thing
 
9:50 AM
@rosualin have you read 50 shades of grey?
 
@rosualin It's only complex. Not "best".
 
well, the basic isn't the same?
 
@rosualin Don't listen to her. She's an unfunny troll.
 
I mean, c++/cx is a framework based on c++
to be able to work with WinRT
 
Xeo
No, it's a language based on C++.
 
9:51 AM
@rosualin What you are asking about isn't the basic part that is the same.
 
Xeo
^
 
@chmod711telkitty I would appreciate if you would use the word "we" more carefully. Readers might have the impression that your "we" includes, for example, other people hanging around here.
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understood, thanks @R.MartinhoFernandes
 
@rosualin They are not just mean, they want you to be precise in what you say and ask.
 
9:51 AM
C++ people are the most pedantic people you'll ever talk to.
 
Everything in System or Windows::System or not in std is the "extra stuff".
 
I realized my PE 389 solution was taking up way too much memory as my computer reached <100MB free
 
@Jefffrey kek
 
I had to wait a full minute to gain back control ;_;
 
@chmod711telkitty speak for yourself?
 
Xeo
9:52 AM
@Jefffrey using C++ = pedantic;
 
@HansKlünder there is no word in english that describes a sub set of 'we'
 
everyone knows PHP people are the most pedantic
 
And I just figured out a method to solve it using almost no memory
 
@chmod711telkitty You can use "I".
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they have the greatest attention to detail
 
9:52 AM
Just some stack space
 
@ScarletAmaranth :^
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun what problem?
 
@chmod711telkitty acually, there is such a word: "I"
 
hmm might try it
 
9:53 AM
I solved it initially using a Monte Carlo method so I know what kind of answer I'm looking for
 
don't spoil it :P
 
sshhh
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No. Irony. At. All.
 
9:53 AM
some guy at my uni are trying a new captcha
but it looks easy to crack
 
Your crack is easy to crack
Or so I heard
 
Oooh snap!
 
:c
 
lol, if you think I should use 'I' to describe half of the loungers, I would be gladly doing so. I loungers are very understanding ...
 
@rosualin Because they are arrogant nerds.
 
9:56 AM
@chmod711telkitty That's what puppy always does, no?
 
@rosualin maybe you should try not barging in with a clueless question and demanding reasonable answers to unreasonable queries.
Try asking around /before/ dumping your assumptions on people. That will tell show you another side.
And just to be clear, nobody is going to spoonfeed you. If that's necessary, you're not gonna be programming c++ anyways.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Some people in particular :)
 
@chmod711telkitty You should use 'I' to describe you and quit speaking on behalf of anybody else at all.
 
Can we ban the world "we" please? It's not like we are some kind of a gang or whatever. In fact I fucking hate you all.
 
thanks in advanced for ur cooperation sir
 
@chmod711telkitty It's such a shame I can't kick you right now, anymore
 
9:58 AM
u're cooperation
 
@MatthewRead: Vlad's abusive behavior has affected many (most?) of the major contributors to c++, but the mods have done nothing. I won't hazard a guess as to exactly why, but I have to agree with Pascal: it's been going on regularly enough for long enough that it seems fairly clear that appropriate action is not going to be taken. Even when he goes beyond revenge downvoting into obvious plagiarism, flags pointing out the problem are simply declined. — Jerry Coffin 7 hours ago
 
^^ Damn. Am I the only person who has yet to have an altercation with Vlad? I almost feel left out.
almost
 
I have nothing against vlad.
 
@sehe I got it, but what sucks at c++/cx in Windows Phone applications is that whatever you search for, it ussually takes you to some C# code, or other stuff like that, and I cannot find a usable example. Anything that I try has a refference or something that is missing, or undeclared, and then I lose 2-3 hours on that, untill I find out that it's actually not the good way to do that
 
9:59 AM
"I have since talked to other users who left comments and (sehe, Lightness Races in Orbit, Telkitty) and they all got downvotes on low traffic questions or answers promptly after they commented." Um, what? No I didn't, and I never said I did. — Lightness Races in Orbit 10 secs ago
 
@chmod711telkitty Good job keeping missing the point. You were (way) out of line, and you did not speak on behalf of half the loungers. You were told this several times, by several loungers. No one has contradicted that. So. Which third half of the lounge do you see?
 
Like with other C++ derivatives, the solution is to not bother with it
 
I asked that question because a friend told me that in order to make a async task, I need to declare a IAsyncResult, that I need then to attach to a delegate, now I did understood that part, but as you guys told me here, it wasn't even the right code, so he just fucked me into losing more time
 
@rosualin You'll find that if you stick to "vanilla" C++ ("desktop" C++ or somthing, in Microsoft marketing speak) you'll find all the support you need on Stack Overflow and perhaps even some constructive prodding in here.
@rosualin That's only true for managed runtimes
@rosualin Or you learned, that if you're not careful following advice from strangers, that's what happens.
And even if you are careful, learning C++ you will "waste" a lot of time. As with learning anything non-trivial
 
hopefully will get there :D but for now I need to make a static library that will be used in a windows phone application, so I need to make a connection from C# to native, so I'm forced in using c++/cx, until I finish this
 
10:03 AM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Is vlad the user?
 
@rosualin Well. Starting wih the basics, are we :) Good luck
@Jefffrey he's the impaler. From moscow.
 
Thanks a lot, I must say, the more I start to get from it, the more I start to like it, but like u said, it's not trivial at all
 
@Jefffrey check the initial revision
I pinged everyone about the meta drama yesterday
Except for LRiO apparently because he's being emo or burgher or whatever.
*butthurt
 
Ell
Lol burger
 
I'm on mobile chat, it's horrible.
 
10:16 AM
@MohammadAliBaydoun just so I don't make a mistake early on
 
I'm not on mobile chat, but I do want a burger.
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun the expected value for C is 8.75 right?
@MohammadAliBaydoun since the expected value of a 4-dice is 2.5, the one of a 6-dice is 3.5 and we're summing the results of expected 2.5 * 3.5 rolls
 
I'd kill for a burger right now :)
 
@orlp I don't know, I'm trying to optimize a very slow function in my solution ;_;
also, I found that it gives incorrect values
So I'm reading a paper on dice sum probabilities now
Given N die, the minimum sum is N and the maximum sum is kN where k is the number of sides on the die, and I'm trying to find the general form for p(s) where s is in [N .. k*N]
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Well, at least you're on mobile chat, so I'm guessing you are err.. 'mobile'? Head for the nearest cafe/drive-thru. I may do the same, though it means getting ready to go out.
 
@CatPlusPlus ;___;
 
@MartinJames well, I really want a cheeseburger and those are harder to come by here with all the mixing dairy and meat products bullshit.
 
user1804599
@sehe lol:
 
user1804599
$ php QR.php > QR.png
$ npiet QR.png > QR.pike
 
user1804599
Piet is awesome.
 
10:23 AM
loungers are Iak (yes I will use 'I' instead of 'we' more)
3
so many Iasels
 
lol
 
web = Internet
now I get it ...
 
oh shut up kitty
 
I wonder what draws telkitty here
 
TweetDeck renderer process keeps crashing
Good embedded browsering
 
10:29 AM
@AlexM. love for the room
just like anyone else
 
yes but in her case it's more one-sided than not
 
wait, you don't think women can love?
 
like a soap opera
drama
 
are you sexist?
thanks kitty, for you kind star-support
 
I like to contribute to the community
 
10:31 AM
lol
 
what community
 
Hmm...
 
wed ... that's why ... it's like 'we' + 'ed', but not weed ... like 'I' become 'we' ... but in the past tense!
 
Can packaged_task's operator() throw an exception because the wrapped function throws or does it stow the thrown exception into internal state?
 
It gets put in the future, just like the result value would.
The only thing it throws is std::future_error if shit goes wrong in the future machinery.
It doesn't let any exceptions escape from user code.
 
user1804599
10:37 AM
you mean "if"
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun what solution did your monte carlo method give for the variance of C?
 
@AlexM. what contribution :)
@R.MartinhoFernandes or std::broken_promise, right? Or does packaged_task actually prevent that
 
broken_promise is thrown from the other end.
You can't throw broken_promise from the end that is holding the promise.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes back to the?
 
Xeo
@sehe broken_promise is part of the future_errc enum
 
10:41 AM
@CatPlusPlus ooooh
 
user1804599
> If you don't sin, Jesus died for nothing.
 
user1804599
top kek
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Thanks. That's what I needed to know.
@rightføld lol
 
@Xeo oops
@rightføld he had inside information, prior knowledge
 
@rightføld don't be silly, the j man died so we can sin with a clean slate
 
10:47 AM
rightføld is not silly. She just made me learn something very important and fundamental about christianity.
 
user1804599
I sin cos tan Jesus likes me.
4
 
no.
@HansKlünder *he
 
@rightføld a bit hyperbolic, are we
 
user1804599
dat pun
 
@rightføld do you prefer being referred to as "it", "he", "she", "'e" (with a leading apostroph) or "they"?
 
10:49 AM
inb4 "ma'm"
 
user1804599
"rightføld"
 
@Jefffrey ah, thanks for the hint. I'll avoid using "he" or "she" now when writing about rightføld and instead always use rightføld's name "rightføld" when writing about rightføld.
 
user1804599
Sounds good.
 
Fuck people bidding one cent more than me on eBay.
 
Are you sure it's a person and not automatic?
websites can be dodgy you know ...
 
10:56 AM
doggy
style
 
@chmod711telkitty Robots are people too.
 
sure it is ... wait someone would be offended if I start to use 'it' to address robot :x
 
lolno
 
	result.erase(
		result.begin(),
		std::remove_if(
		    result.begin(),
		    result.end(),
                [](wchar_t ch) { return ch > 127; }
	    )
	);
oops.
 

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