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1:00 PM
@Jefffrey that is sad
 
there are no cats around
 
Every S1 Friends episode at the same time
 
but they're doing it out of reflex
cats have no control over reality
 
wat
 
1:01 PM
just machines doing the same things over and over again
 
There's the other cat with her
 
what if we're like that too
 
dude stop
 
wait there's another cat?
 
I have 2
 
that's your cat in the video?
I'm confused
 
no
the video simply shows what my cat is doing now while I "play" the guitar
 
well there's just one cat in the video
and she seems unaware of the fact that there's no other cat near her
 
@AlexM. maybe there's another one in the background
 
maybe the other cat is filming
 
1:03 PM
lol
 
"haha, our plan to make the humans think we're stupid is flawless!"
 
they are not stupid
I wouldn't be able to kill a bird
they are clearly able to
 
and they know you're not able to kill a bird
that's why they bring you dead birds
 
no idea where they get the data from, nice visualization
 
Oct 25 '14 at 11:03, by Alex M.
TIL cats bring you dead birds because you clearly suck at hunting
 
1:05 PM
That's what guns are for. Or rockets if your aim is poor.
 
I wonder what animals think about us
are dogs aware that we're not dogs
 
@JohanLarsson lol twitter
 
or do they think we're some really weird and ugly dogs
 
@JohanLarsson Twitter.
Terrible.
 
Ell
okay so a DI framework generates your main function or something I think
I've been watching this youtube.com/watch?v=oK_XtfXPkqw
and I just don't get it
 
1:15 PM
"Oh, I don't notice that ringing anym—FUCK WHY DID I THINK OF IT"
 
I suck at CS lingo but I would explain a DI framework as the thing that makes sure your constructors get what they want as parameyters.
Typically used once at app startup (composition root)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you lost the game
@Alex hmm
 
> FYI that would be in the neighborhood of half a megabyte of bytecode. I see no good reason to inflict that on everyone to meet the needs of a very few.
:cripes:
 
@CatPlusPlus Oh noes, my precious half a megabyte.
 
lol, quoting Kirk.
 
1:20 PM
YIL that at least in the past, Oracle's Java compiler generated bytecode for redundant assignments javapractices.com/topic/TopicAction.do?Id=14
 
Oh no
 
I hope this doesn't apply now, it would be silly
 
(Most optimisations are in JIT, not on bytecode level)
 
really?
 
1:22 PM
doesn't the redundant bytecode affect the JIT anyway?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes paraphrasing, really
 
If bytecode optimiser would spot it, so can JIT
 
yup, but JIT does things at runtime whereas the optimization could have been done at compile tme
or is it a start -> do JIT stuff -> run normally thing
> JIT typically causes a slight delay in initial execution of an application, due to the time taken to load and compile the bytecode.
yes, nvm
 
JIT needs to know the optimisation anyway, because Java compiler is not the only one that produces bytecode
Also duplicating logic and stuff
 
yeah, it makes sense now
I guess it makes it easy to apply specific optimizations for the platform running the app like that too
 
1:28 PM
@AlexM. it depends. With dynamic languages, it might be possible to optimize things that aren't possible at compile time
 
Also JIT doesn't work just on startup
 
@VáclavZeman that's true, Stephen Fry will die, and I hope that won't happen by a stroke of supernatural evil, but just by the souvereign natural forces acting as natural forces are used to act.
 
JVM optimises hot paths and deoptimises cold ones while the program is running
 
1:29 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm glad I don't do webdev
 
@AlexM. yeah me too
 
I just wouldn't have the patience or willpower to go through all this security crap
 
I mean, I do, but in closed systems thank fuck
 
lol if you think you can ever not think about security
 
Your edit makes it even worse. You're dereferencing null. — Borgleader 42 secs ago
 
1:31 PM
@Ell You don't get what is the problem that he is trying to solve?
 
Ell
@Jefffrey No
 
@Ell No, not really
 
@CatPlusPlus there are places where it's not as critical
 
@Ell what don't you understand?
 
And here's the list of them:
 
Ell
1:32 PM
@Jefffrey What the problem is. Why do you need a framework and what does the framework do?
 
@AlexM. I thought "webdev" is only about sites
 
It does the wiring
 
there's "don't let hackers hack our game" security and then there's "we're sony if we get hacked you don't want to know what happens to you" security
 
Ell
Wiring of what?
 
2 mins ago, by Jefffrey
@Ell You don't get what is the problem that he is trying to solve?
 
1:33 PM
Classes
 
So, the answer was yes?
 
Ell
@Jefffrey I meant "No, I don't understand the problem"
 
oh, me neither then
 
Ell
I thought dependency injection was not constructing members in the constructor and instead passing the objects in
 
1:34 PM
Yes
 
> ● 25 days annual leave
I get a full month
UK sux
 
We knew that already
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ahahahaha
 
@AlexM. That's 25 work days, aka more than a month.
 
1:35 PM
let me check the exact number of days here
 
Ell
5 weeks
 
> we are investigating the detail behind today's report as a priority.
lol
 
nvm, I get 25 days too
Romania sux
 
@Ell And that passing bit is what the framework does
 
Xeo
1:49 PM
I get 24
vOv
buddy of mine has 30 and can use his overtime for vacation days :(
 
I avoid overtime like the plague, even if it's paid
 
Xeo
same
 
I never had to do since I arrived here (~7 months)
it's hard to do it anyway if you have my schedule
by the time I leave home (20:00) most of the people leave too
so unless it's an emergency coming from another studio, there's nobody still at work to keep me from leaving
the secret to no overtime: go to work at 12, leave at 20
 
Or go to work at 12 and leave at 16
 
Xeo
lol
 
1:51 PM
@sehe Yes, in the comment and yes.
 
Xeo
I wish
 
this avoids the mini-overtime that people put in almost daily
 
Xeo
I wanna go home
 
e.g. one hour after 18:00 or so
 
@AlexM. there are places the enforce 9 to 5, at 5 they lock you outside the office.
 
1:52 PM
and I can also game all night and not give a shit
 
I think ayande is famous for advocating it
 
Xeo
I'm contemplating taking a week off just because I can and have basically nothing to do at work
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum lol sounds like a really pleasant workplace /s
 
@Xeo do something cool with that time :)
 
there's a nightshift here for testers lol
 
1:53 PM
@AlexM. I don't know, when I get in the zone I really like it - I think enforcing less than 10 hours a day might be a good idea though.
 
21 -> 21 + 8 hr
 
Xeo
Let me work longer if I wanna
but also let me leave early if I don't wanna
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum the schedule is shit
 
I wouldn't be able to work 9->5
 
1:55 PM
I probably wouldn't either, it's a work culture thing.
 
Xeo
I got kinda-flex time - core hours are 10-16, and you can shift your 8h workday as long as you got those hours covered
 
we sort of have that by default now
 
it's not stated anywhere but it happens frequently
 
playing games at night is best, so no way am I going to sleep to wake up at 9
 
1:55 PM
when I'm WFM, my work day tends to start with the 10am scrum call and nobody appears to care
 
@AlexM. the problem is scheduling meetings at that time. If no one is in the office by 10:30 then meetings are hard to do.
 
conversely, the early birds frequently fuck off after 4pm for school runs and the like
 
what's a school run
 
picking kids up from school
of course, when in office, my day is more like 6am->10pm
no way I could do the more typical 7.30am->6.30pm day with travelling. it'd knacker me out
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I don't have those :D
well I do
but they're on Skype
and the relevant people I talk with are placed around the world really nicely
 
1:57 PM
@AlexM. I don't know, we've had issues before and now everyone has to be in the office by 10am.
 
when it's 9AM for them it's something like 5PM for me
 
@AlexM. Yeah, we have that but not in the development team. All the developers are together in one office.
 
I need to change font for programming
 

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