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Dress up as a programmer.
 
@thecoshman make it a Dydimic, then. Shaken, not stirred
 
Did daylight savings kick in over the weekend?
 
user1804599
@Nooble undress*
 
Xeo
 
user1804599
12:02 PM
,,,I, prefer,,, Clojure, ,,,commas ,over, Oxford, commas.,,,,
 
Xeo
Such a great opening.
 
@Xeo SFW?
 
Ell
@bjd2385 last weekend iirc
 
Xeo
@Nooble ye.
 
@Xeo I'm rewatching Fate/Zero and reminded of how good it is.
 
Xeo
12:05 PM
needs headphones though
 
Holy ****...am I that far behind? Gee over the weekend I was wondering why my clock in my room was so far off
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked ufotable delivers.
 
Lol
 
Xeo
Delivers amazingly
the animation quality of the UBW anime is just... crazy
 
Ell
I wish physicists and mathematicians could just agree for once in a while: i.imgur.com/HkSnNMt.png
Switching two variables I mean c'mon!
 
12:10 PM
@Ell That's one of the reasons I changed to comp. math from Physics. Everything in Physics is sorta a**-backward, you know? Then again...maybe it depends on which side of the line you're standing ^_^
 
Ell
Yeah true
but something like this, all they've done is switched the letters :p
 
AP computer science in my high school teaches Java.
 
user1804599
@Ell lol
 
@Nooble Haven't looked at Java yet, can't wait though. Tired of Python
 
@Nooble that's what a classmate told me after last year's new year party
"you look just like a programmer having fun"
wtf does that even mean
 
user1804599
12:12 PM
If you can't wait to look at Java, you should see a psychiatrist.
 
Java has no pointers, scared of it.
 
user1804599
Java has many pointers.
 
@rightføld lol
 
user1804599
You just can't do pointer arithmetic and arbitrary casts.
 
Just got out of the interview
 
12:13 PM
Python is "easy" to pick up. Like between last night and this morning (yes all-nighter, I have an exam in a few hrs) I've accomplished nearly 75 pgs in a book I'm looking through. Tried C... yeah... still haven't made it more than ~15 pgs and I've had that book a week
 
user1804599
R.I.P. Bartek.
 
user1804599
suicide
 
user1804599
> Just got out of the interview
 
They are willing to pay me
Probably
 
user1804599
12:14 PM
For a suicide attack?
 
The fuck is this suicide thing about
 
user1804599
@bjd2385 Try Scala instead of Java. It's more fun.
 
@BartekBanachewicz we found out that you're a suicide bomber
 
user1804599
Bombtek
 
user1804599
12:15 PM
Bartender
 
Interesting that the first question was "when".
 
@rightføld Neato...haven't heard of that one yet
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz What is the job?
 
user1804599
What do they pay you for?
 
12:16 PM
Game developer
For developing games.
 
user1804599
Creating jobs by writing code that has to maintained in the future?
 
user1804599
OIC.
 
Ah
Yeah well
Dunno
 
user1804599
What technologies?
 
How stupid... RIT's CSCI dept. requires I use something called "rit_object.py" to create classes and the sorts. They won't teach us normal classes etc.
 
user1804599
12:17 PM
Is this Python 1?
 
@rightføld No, Python 3.4.1
 
user1804599
Classes are boring anyway.
 
user1804599
That's why I skipped them.
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz awesome
 
C++ / OpenGL
 
Ell
12:18 PM
oresum
 
I'm with you one that one...really annoying
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz Good. Glad I don't have to do that.
 
Ell
I have a question about opengl actually
well it's not opengl, it's more about maths
 
Hey ell I said probably. What i meant was that they agreed about the wage
 
user1804599
The study of OpenGL is a subset of maths.
 
12:18 PM
Dont know of they want to hire me yet
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz Oh right :)
@BartekBanachewicz Still, it's good news :)
 
They gave me matrix multiplication o the interview
 
@rightføld Really?
 
user1804599
 
Lmao that's perfect
 
Ell
12:19 PM
@BartekBanachewicz really?
that seems weird
 
Yeah. Al lso a cpp test
 
user1804599
My physics teacher used to say mathematics is the slave of physics, and I told him that similarly physics is the slave of chemistry and he was not amused.
 
@rightføld Math rules all
 
The test was pretty ok but a bit low level
 
@bjd2385 Why not C++?
 
12:20 PM
About ass ensemble
Or something
 
@Nooble Nah C++ is slave to math too, same with computers
 
Well @Ell what is the question
 
user1804599
If artefacts are objects made by humans, are humans artefacts?
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz Okay, so I'm writing a little orbital camera code
 
Orbital?
 
user1804599
12:22 PM
@bjd2385 other way around
 
@rightføld Everything in that sense is an artifact
 
Ell
I think it's called an orbital camera?
 
@rightføld artifacts?
 
user1804599
Math doesn't use C++. C++ uses math.
 
user1804599
@Nooble silly merkins misspelling "artefact"
 
Ell
12:22 PM
Basically the camera lies on the surface of a sphere
 
user1804599
@bjd2385 No.
 
@rightføld Yeah, but the machine C++ is running on is governed by Physics, which is slave to the rules of Math
 
Ell
and I have the position done
 
user1804599
The moon is not man-made.
 
user1804599
12:22 PM
At least, not to my knowledge.
 
Then use look at equations
 
Ell
but I'm never sure what order I need to apply rotations in in order to get the camera to face the right direction
 
Yeah, just use lookat
 
I know almost nothing about ass ensemble
 
Ell
Ah cool
 
user1804599
12:23 PM
ensemble studios
 
Ell
Good idea
 
Ell
view matrix always confuses me for some reason
 
user1804599
Me too.
 
Ell
because of rotating the world and whatnot
 
12:24 PM
There are many ways to combine rotations
Using quaternions makes this easier, and everything else harder :P
 
@rightføld The moon wasn't but recall your question on whether humans are artifacts; if humans are artifacts, then what created men and women must call us artifacts, and whatever created what created us would call what created us an artifact, etc. until that "something" (if it exists) can claim to have created the moon as well, in which case it too would be called an artifact. Perhaps this has roots in the "whether God exists" dilemma
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz But even before this stage
 
Also I am on a 7km walk
 
View matrices are easy especially with GLM
From what I understand, there is almost no reason to use C over C++. I guess for smaller file sizes?
 
Because fuck paying for taxis
 
user1804599
12:25 PM
@bjd2385 Well, disregarding deceased humans.
 
user1804599
Apart from CIA's funky experiments, all humans are made by women.
 
@Nooble not even then
 
@BartekBanachewicz Isn't this deprecated?
 
@rightføld Hmm...perhaps that might fall underneath that as well?
 
@Nooble I said "routine" not old ogl function
 
user1804599
12:26 PM
War becomes routine.
 
user1804599
war();
 
user1804599
Maybe I should play with OpenGL again.
 
@rightføld installed Scala, I'll give it a try
 
Ell
@rightføld You should
 
user1804599
LWJGL or JOGL?
 
12:28 PM
@rightføld I have a confession to make
I'm... also doing what I did in Clojure with D, to see which I like the most
 
user1804599
D is nice.
 
I just couldn't resist the D
I was actually very surprised to see... how intuitively modules work
I was able to create modules and use stuff in them by adding in random keywords that I thought made sense
and it worked
 
user1804599
Getting module systems right is so easy even C++ got it wrong.
 
Well
I don't think Backpack is easy
 
user1804599
Screw it.
 
12:35 PM
backpacks are easy
 
user1804599
I'll do 2D graphics instead.
 
Ell
If I do glm::translate(m, v1) and then glm::rotate(m, v2) will this translate then rotate?
or rotate then translate
 
I would expect the former
 
user1804599
It probably results in a black screen.
 
@rightføld Better than C syntax
 
user1804599
12:41 PM
Definitely not.
 
Ell
also in glm::lookAt what does up need to be? global up?
 
@thecoshman No
 
Oh hey, another default proposal on Nomic.
 
user1804599
 
Hi,Is it possible to use vector<String> in windows forms combobox?
 
12:55 PM
@pauliustack Hi, ask it on SO.
 
Ell
lol. what I made reminds me of majora's mask youtube.com/watch?v=8IMV0xZHLFk&feature=youtu.be
Not sure why it's jumpy
maybe wrapping round of something
 
@Jefffrey Mine again!
Is someone posting it?
I'm busy.
Edit histor eggs.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What do you mean yours?
 
It's going to be my last one, right?
 
1:09 PM
What's funnier is that last time it was mine too and in the end it passed.
Sam just stole it and added fixes.
Bastard.
 
My cat is chasing its own tail
 
Are you sure it's not a dog?
 
Now I'm wondering
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well, that's the idea. IIRC yours was a good idea, but had a few dangling threads.
wait... how did the vote close at around 3pm, and now we have proposals posted by 10am? It was 48 and 72 hours from the deadlines... those are whole days.
 
By dangling threads you mean "people with poor reading comprehension".
 
1:13 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes sure
 
2 people with poor reading comprehension I guess
 
oh hey, it was puppy who rejected you :P
@Puppy was that just sour apples?
 
Why would it?
 
IIRC it was around the time I was giving him greif
 
@thecoshman Speaking of reading comprehension...
> Voting starts: 2014-10-29 10:10 UTC
 
1:17 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes... 10am... which is not around 3pm...
 
Have no idea what you're talking about.
 
oh, it doesn't say when you first posted your proposal
and I guess you don't have to start voting at a fixed time from then any way.
 
It was at 10:10.
 
that's the cat saying voting had ended... so how come that was at 3pm, but the deadline for the next proposal was 10am
 
Because you're bad at timezones
 
Ell
1:20 PM
lol
I just accidentally discovered I could do this
 
@CatPlusPlus that's a matter of an hour or two
 
It wasn't posted exactly when the voting ended
Voting ended exactly at 10:10
 
Did chat fuck up for you too?
 
oh yeah yeah yeah, I see what time stamps matter there.
@R.MartinhoFernandes it did earlier this morning
 
It did for me just now.
For a minute there I thought I had to work.
 
1:26 PM
maybe they have some germlings in the works.
@R.MartinhoFernandes don't say such things!
 
I won against overlapped I/O last week.
I am invincible now.
 
huh?
you mean you won against O\I
 
lol dicsourse
 
o_0
 
> A check for updates has not been performed lately. Ensure sidekiq is running.
Ugh
Fuckin rubby
Also I have no idea how they managed to fuck up process supervision, since the container is running runit
It is a mystery
 
1:31 PM
Fuck you, Randall.
 
Container's rebuilding, Nomic will be down for a while
 
huh, just noticed @R.MartinhoFernandes you putting semi-colons at the end each line in your lists on the player status thread.
 
Ell
what even is overlapped io?
 
@CatPlusPlus what's to rebuild?
 
Asynchronous
 
1:32 PM
@Ell You don't wanna know.
Stay in school and don't do drugs.
 
@thecoshman The Docker container it's running in
 
@CatPlusPlus your gateway is bad, get some oil.
@CatPlusPlus ergh, framedonotworks
 
Docker is not a framework you butte
 
> OK, I think I get this one. So Deuterium can fuse to Boron: D+D ⇌ B , and if you hit Hydrogen with electrons it will become He, and Nitrogen will become Ne.
 
Can I and someone else submit a post at the exact same time on Nomic's forum?
 
1:36 PM
@CatPlusPlus vOv still sucks I'm sure.
 
Yes? Why not?
 
@Jefffrey one will be first.
 
@CatPlusPlus I don't know anything about concurrency, but I though databases applied something like mutexes on write on the same table.
 
> Depending on font, Iodine either reacts with everything by simply lengthening the bonds, or behaves exactly the same as Hydrogen. But sideways.
lol
 
Depends on few things, but in general that doesn't mean you can't have two concurrent transactions
Either both will apply cleanly in one order or the other, or one of them will just have to retry
 
1:38 PM
Comic Sans Iodine is a highly reactive element.
 
@CatPlusPlus So effectively there's always a first and a second, right?
 
Why has robot gone nuclear?
 
Something that we can actually take a look at.
 
There's always a first and a second
 
1:39 PM
Ah... lol
 
Ell
lol
 
It's awesome.
 
Ell
so I3 just behaves as a wide H
 
lol
didn't notice it the first time
 
You're all a bit weird..
 
1:41 PM
A bit?
 
CloudFare borked.
 
> omfg why are you playing this on xbox... buy yourself a ps4 and run this game in 1080p .
 
user1804599
BORK
 
@Ell What's I3?
 
A highway
 
1:42 PM
Comic Sans I3 is just a long iodine polymer.
[I]n
 
Ell
Oh
I thought the 3 Is would form an extra wide H
 
Or you can have a cyclic compound, with I3, I guess.
 
omg it's alive
 
@Ell You suck at typographic chemistry. There's no way to bond in the middle of a Comic Sans iodine atom. Only at one of the two ends.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh I get it now :P
 
1:44 PM
Update check still broken
 
user1804599
Backspace to go to previous page is so stupid.
 
Also stats!
 
Ell
How many bonds can Ti have? :P
4? 5?
 
user1804599
James.
 
Ell
damniiit gravy splash
 
1:45 PM
@Ell I'd say 3.
 
@thecoshman Sam didn't get absence penalty
 
At least in my font.
@CatPlusPlus Is he once again exercising his lack of reading?
 
Yes
There's no penalty for proposing by default defined
 
There probably should be one.
 
@CatPlusPlus what is it?
 
1:48 PM
Stats
 
stats of what?
 
Ell
Nomic
 
Ugh updating bare-metal Windows Server is a lottery
 
@thecoshman I'm not doing it consistently, but it's intentional.
 
There's just no way to monitor progress without KVM
So I'm running ping -t and hoping nothing breaks in the middle
 
1:52 PM
// The following new syntax could be create a more compact code:
auto {
   X1 = new X();
   X2 = new X("bla bla");
   ...
   Xn = ..
}
(Asylum today)
 
lol
Don't go to that place
 
guess I shouldn't
 
Yeah run ping -t when the server is configured to reject ICMP echo
god
I'm not sure why the rule is called 'file and printer sharing'
 
gah. The one time I need SO - it immediately stops responding
 
Other ICMP packets are under core networking and funnily enough enabled by default
 
1:58 PM
@AndyProwl lol, link?
 
nooo dont go there
jefffrey dont
 
user1804599
> (memoize identity)
 
@CatPlusPlus oh, a bit pre-emptive I suppose. Still, let's see him prove me wrong.
 
@CatPlusPlus i'm fearless
 
@AndyProwl lol
 
1:59 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes huh, I was taught you shouldn't end list items with punctuation like that.
 
@AndyProwl dat new; Perl for compact code
 

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