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12:00 AM
@bd1251252 Get a RaspberryPi! Those things have GPU's.
 
and they are cheap.
 
RaspberryPis are cheap... if no other accessories are needed and you care about the power consumption
 
@Nooble Thanks for the suggestion!
I already own a RPi
lol
@nightcracker neat pic
 
AMD has some power efficient (35W) desktop CPUs with integrated GPUs that compete, mainly, with Atoms
the platform is obviously more expensive than the Pi
 
Ell
12:02 AM
If you make your programme parallel you can just keep adding CPUs or GPUs
 
but the processor itself costs like $30
and leaves the Pi in the dust, obviously
 
Ell
APUs?
 
yeah one of those
let me check the name
> AMD Sempron 2650 1.45GHz
 
guy down the hall built (or is in the process of attempting to build, I should say) a Linux cluster. I just don't want to fiddle with all of that
 
goes for some $36 or so here
 
12:05 AM
lol APU
 
I will get a titan...that will work I think. I have an old suitemate that might sell me his if I convince him to get a better one lol
 
@bd1251252 So you have done some OpenCL I assume?
 
if you get a titan you probably want to look more into CUDA
 
I wonder if it would be more effective to use OpenCL as a platform for software rendering rather than using OpenGL directly.
@AlexM. But CUDA is proprietary, I think.
 
Ell
@Nooble I doubt it
Opencl is less mature and also opengl is designed specifically for rendering :3
 
12:09 AM
I don't think anyone stops you from using CUDA for stuff
they certainly didn't stop me
proprietary or not
 
@AlexM. I mean, only used on NVIDIA.
 
aaah, yeah
that's true
 
OpenCL over CUDA.
 
Ell
Also opencl is more generic iirc
 
but CUDA is likely to provide better performance on nVidia hardware than OpenCL
I mean it's their tech
 
12:10 AM
Just like OpenGL over DX
Starts holy war
 
lol
"starts holy war" lol
 
It happened.
One time.
I think with @Puppy
Not sure...
 
lol
Does this look like it's worth nearly ~$3000? newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814132008
 
Ell
Opencl can be used on CPUs and GPUs and all manner of computing devices I think
 
@bd1251252 Worth it? Not for me.
 
12:13 AM
it's worth asking if it runs Crysis
 
@Nooble Lol me neither...
 
@AlexM. But it doesn't have a video output... Only used for graphical accelerating.
 
> Pros: This beastly, when combined with PNY VCQK5000-PB NVIDIA Quadro K5000 4GB256-bit PCI Express 2.0 x 16 HDCP Ready Workstation video card, is used for some of the most advanced CG work.

Cons: People don't understand that this isn't some gaming card.
 
Lol
nice
 
I stick with my 770's
Got them for 300 each.
 
Ell
12:14 AM
Ivhave a gtx 560 ti
 
I use them for OpenGL stuff.
 
I was looking at a 770 but Newegg doesn't sell 4GB went out of stock
 
a 760 is enough for me now
 
wow what a deal
 
I'll probably upgrade in a year or so
 
12:14 AM
@AlexM. I'm sure it is.
 
Ell
I don't game
 
My laptop has a 970m
It's equivalent to a 760
 
@Ell neither do I
 
It could run mostly eveything.
 
it runs all of the games I throw at it maxed out, can't complain
 
12:15 AM
@AlexM. At 1080p I assume?
That's what my laptop does.
 
yes
I wouldn't buy a 760 for > 1080p
 
My laptop doubles as a heating device when running BF4.
 
lol
 
Really comfy rear exhaust guys.
 
not even sure the memory is enough what do you need for 4k
4GB at least?
I think I have 2GB
 
12:16 AM
4GB at least yes.
 
@Nooble That's my favorite game to watch. Tried playing it once, I sucked
 
@bd1251252 Same with me but with Football.
 
@Nooble Shoot that too
 
I'm scared of trying to catch things at anything > 30mph.
 
@Nooble I've got no problem with that, I just don't like contact. More of the gym-going non-sportsy kinda guy
 
12:18 AM
So have you guys seen an R9290X?
 
Ell
4k doesn't need 4gb?
 
My friend has one.
R9-290X's are so freakin' loud.
I know there is a video titled "NASA's R9-290 GPU Preparing for Takeoff"
 
That looks like a beast
@Nooble lmao
 
It is a beast, Especially for 4k.
 
wow
 
12:20 AM
AMD really pushes the limit.
For example: R9-295X2.
It's two R9-290x's in one card. Draws 400 watts.
It has a built in water cooler.
Because air cooling would be to loud.
 
Wow...yeah looks like a nice card
 
8GB of GDDR5
 
Why is it so "cheap"? Like similar cards in the same price range I've found don't have nearly as many cores or VRAM
Becuase it's loud?
 
No, it's price just lowered.
It used to be 1499
 
Ha I've got no problem with "loud", you should hear my 10yo Dell Dimension 3000 -- now that is a beast
@Nooble i see
 
12:23 AM
It draws a lot of energy is the problem.
It is a dual-gpu card.
Just like the GTX690
or GTX Titan Z
Which means, it's basically SLI.
It says 8GB GDDR5 but it is really 4x2GB. Which means, due to the way SLI works, you only have an effective 4GB.
SLI does not increase your VRAM.
 
neat
 
AMD's SLI is called CrossFire
 
@bd1251252 Whoever's behind in technology at the moment (AMD, right now) generally has to sell at quite a bit lower prices to make up the difference. To try to compete at the top end, they do careful binning and heavy-duty cooling. If power is free, it can work out pretty well. If you pay for power, usually a lousy investment.
 
@AlexM. Yeah, yeah.
It's also over PCI-E now.
No more CF connectors.
AMD is really stepping up.
 
@JerryCoffin Nope it comes out of my tuition, and they just raised that nearly $4000, so I'm gonna draw as much power as I want lolol
 
12:28 AM
This is why the GTX Titan Z dual-gpu was a failure. They stacked 2 Titans, lowered the clock and the cores to maintain a temperature and power limit.
The 295X2 Stacked two cards, raised the clock, and fixed the temperature problem by adding a custom cooler.
 
If I was gonna have this monster at home I would care a lot more because my parents would flip over the elctric bill, but since it's gonna be here there's really no limitation
 
Truly a beast.
 
@Nooble I'm cool with that
 
So, if you ever buy 2, maybe ship some to me? :D
Yes!
It works!
 
@Nooble lol keep it in mind
 
12:30 AM
My Avatar!
 
see that, looks like it worked
 
@AlexM. What CPU do you have?
@bd1251252 Or you could just get a GTX 980
or 970
Great for gaming and Opencl
 
@Nooble That's what my old suitemate is trying to get me to do, just wait a little until the prices come down on them (if they do) and get a newer card like the 970 or 980
 
I need a EVGA 980 Classified in my life.
1.4 Ghz.
about a 30% overclock.
 
@Nooble And to answer your question from earlier, I have not worked with OpenCL before. I've never had a GPU available to use to learn it
 
12:37 AM
@bd1251252 Then how did you do computational stuff in C++?
Just CPU?
 
@Nooble I never said I did. I do stuff with CPU yes, SSH into a server on campus and run all of my stuff in IDL, Python and now I'm picking up C as best I can
 
@bd1251252 C or C++?
 
I just read somewhere that GPU's might have potential, and ever since then I've been reading more and more about it. So I decided to build a "gaming" rig to learn everything on. All of my hardware is >5 yo and it's all bottom of the barrel, store-shelf bought, nothing special. Right now running an old G56 laptop with 3GB RAM and a Dell Dimension 3000 which is a beast, 32 bit Pentium IV. Yeah...time for an update
@Nooble C, not C++ or C#
 
Ell
What CPU you getting?
 
@bd1251252 Why not C++?
 
Ell
12:41 AM
Also why would you use C over c++?
 
@Ell Me, oh boy do I need an upgrade! My i7-3930K is getting a bit dated!
 
Ell
Lol
I have an i5-2500K
Which was clocked at 4.6
But is now 3.3 or something
 
@Ell 4.6?
Tell me your ways...
 
@Ell I'd say about the only reason any more would be targeting a tiny system that just couldn't handle the extra code size from C++. Very thin (and narrowing) margin between C++ at the higher end, and assembly on the lower end though.
 
@Ell I'm deciding between an i5-4690k or...perhaps...a low-end i7, but I'm not sure. My suitemate that knows more about the newer hardwares than I do is trying to get me to do an unlocked i7 for "overclocking" but I'm not too psyched about overclocking. I just want a beast GPU. Surely anything I buy, i.e. i5 or i7-anything will be faster than everything I've ever owned combined
 
Ell
12:44 AM
4.6GHz
@Nooble meh
Just got an okay cooler :P
 
@Nooble eh... i have an i7-3770k
 
Ell
Air cooler I mean
 
@Borgleader Cool.
I saved up money since I was 8 aimlessly, got into computer stuff, and 5 years later, spent most of it on a desktop.
 
@bd1251252 Yes--even a bottom-end (current) CPU will be a lot faster than a Pentium IV.
 
That new 8-core i7 looks awesome but hardly worth >$1000, way overpriced IMHO
@JerryCoffin Oh I'm well-aware of that :p
 
12:47 AM
@bd1251252 It excels as a multitasker.
And besides, bragging rights.
 
@Nooble lmao yeah bragging rights
 
"Hey, HEY! How many threads you got? Huh? HAHAHAHA puny human! I have 16!"
 
lol
 
@JerryCoffin How...
8 cores 64 threads?
 
12:52 AM
If you want something more affordable: adapteva.com/epiphanyiv
@Nooble 8 threads per core (just like an i7 does two threads per core, but...moreso).
 
What's the fastest -- and I mean best of the best -- single processor (which may have many cores) on the market today available to the public?
Disregarding price
 
@JerryCoffin I see.
 
@bd1251252 define fastest
 
@bd1251252 There is no single answer to that. It depends upon what kind of load you want to run on it.
 
@bd1251252 Well, are you looking for something that has actual motherboard support?
 
12:54 AM
@Borgleader that is a problem, isn't it?
 
@Borgleader Most likely thinking GHz
 
@Nooble No, anything at all
Friend of my suitemate told me the best was the i7
 
@bd1251252 Funny
 
lol, my core feels like a Yarn Ball, time to strip some threads :) Would anyone here have some experience with lempel-ziv compression flavours (specifically identifying them)?
 
@Nooble Hmm...not necessarily GHz. Perhaps let's say the core that could process the most data in a given period of time (if that is a good measurement, and if not, then take it as you will)
 
12:56 AM
Well if were talking best x86-64 arch, that you would use for a home PC, that is possibly correct. For multithreaded applications anyway
 
Has he ever looked at e7's?
Xeons.
 
e7's?
 
Ell
Xeons
 
Those things handle impressive load.
 
@Nooble Alright, that sounds neat
 
12:57 AM
$2500
Surprisingly able to use DDR3-1600
Up to 1536GB of memory.
 
Wow that's neat
Specs on that are incredible
 
My bad, actually costs about $3500
 
@Nooble yeah saw that
 

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