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1:00 AM
Number 1 supercomputer
3 million cores.
Also 17,808 Kw
1 Petabyte of memory.
 
@Nooble Heard of it before. Not something my parents would like to pay for on their electric bill lmoa
 
Ell
Processor?
Or processors?
 
e5
3.1 million
 
@Ell Plural.
It is a supercomputer.
Cluster of Intel Xeon E5-2692v2 12C 2.2GHz's
 
Ell
17 MW
 
1:02 AM
Umm... 1 Petabyte
1024 Terabytes RAM
 
@bd1251252 Yeah, messed up there.
 
Ell
I wonder what they do with that
 
@Nooble np :)
@Ell Ha nothing
 
@Ell They need to give me a few minutes with this and bitcoin.
 
@Nooble Lmaoao
 
1:03 AM
Or dogecoin.
 
Good morning.
On mine too. Those precious watts...
 
@MarkGarcia Morning?
You must live on the other side of the world.
 
yeah...
 
Didn't I have this same conversation with you? Or is it another person...
@Nooble See profile.
 
1:07 AM
@MarkGarcia Another person.
Only asked this once.
 
Wow...has Tianhe 2 been used for anything useful?
What a waste...
Lmao love this guy's reply:
 
Well China does have true R&D.
Don't compare it to NK. ;)
 
I was looking around 3DMark Top 100 Benchmarks.
GTX 980 at 2GHz?
 
Yes...but...gee idk, I just thought a computer such as that would be really utilized. Like give it to someone, like aerospace, someone in industry -- something -- and really give it a definitive purpose. Otherwise not worth the multi-billion dollar price tag for "bragging rights"
 
@Nooble that just came out didnt it?
 
1:13 AM
@Nooble Sounds good
 
This guy was most likely in the north pole while using LN2.
@Borgleader Yep.
Wish I had it.
And some people... i7-5960X 4x GTX 980
 
@bd1251252 I'm pretty sure they have a decent load balancing and power management mechanism. They can't go that high without them.
980's best advantage is its power efficiency.
And at the same time improving performance.
 
Who wants to donate to me about $10K USD?
So I can build a dream of a PC?
 
Nope? nobody any form of experience in Lempel-Ziv flavours?
 
@Nooble I'll second that....
lol
I would only use it for research though...no interest in gaming :p
 
1:17 AM
@GitaarLAB wikipedia
 
@GitaarLAB Some with LZW, anyway.
 
@bd1251252 I'll be using it to make games.
You know, $10K PC is obviously necessary.
 
@Borgleader: been there (and variates). I understand the concept, not the specific implementation. I'm actually good at javascript not c (variants) in which the original code is. Usually I manage to translate because I understand what I'm implementing. This time I only understand the concept.
 
@Nooble Neato, I have a lot of respect for people who do that here. Actually...anyone really in the CSCI dept., usually they're really good at what they do
 
@bd1251252 I spend my days debugging programs to death.
 
1:19 AM
@Nooble Well...it'll last you a good number of years for sure. Not sure about for game design etc.
 
I need to identify/understand one specific flavor (apparently not so trivial since the clone-programs simply left that one out).
 
@Nooble How do you do that? I've been wondering how these people get so good at programming etc., maybe I should just ask. I feel like I'm so behind
 
@bd1251252 How do I debug?
I just look at stack trace.
 
@Nooble How did you get good at programming/debugging...
Source for the programs? Or do you just write your own..
 
@bd1251252 Well, I'm not exactly sure, it comes with time.
 
1:21 AM
@bd1251252 he didn't say he was good, all he said is he did it all day ;)
 
@bd1251252 I write my own.
Experiment.
@Borgleader And this.
I'm sure @Borgleader has seen some of my "not-so-smart" questions.
Both here and on SO.
But I'm getting better at this at least.
 
Say, for example, I have (from the start in hex): 00 CF 94 19 F3 A6 0D 1C 39 69 DA 94 29
 
@Borgleader Yeah but doing it all day might imply that he's good lol
 
The first 4 characters should be: g (67), e (65), c (63), o (6F)
 
@bd1251252 Well...
 
1:23 AM
@Nooble what do you write in?
 
Translating that to binary: 0000000011001111100101000001100111110011101001100000110100011100001110010110100‌​11101101010010100
 
@bd1251252 C++
 
@bd1251252 you see, Vlad from Moscow spends his days answering questions on SO and quite frankly he still writes terrible ones on a regular basis...
 
Or (opposite endiannes): 1100111100000000000110011001010010100110111100110001110000001101011010010011100‌​11001010011011010
 
@bd1251252 Do you take CSCI?
 
1:23 AM
(most loungers can attest to this)
 
@Nooble Oh okay, that's neat. I've just been looking at C
 
But still, nothing to be found (for): g (01100111), e (01100101), c (01100011), o (01101111)
 
@Nooble Yes, I'm taking CSCI I right now. They're teaching us Python
 
While you take an actual course, I'm here in my first year of high school, balancing school work with debugging.
I've only learned programming from one book and the internet.
And the lounge, of course.
 
Yeah, I realize that. Doesn't mean a thing though. Never has really I think
Lucky you're starting early, I began just months ago. By the time you're in my shoes you'll be a very skilled student and will probably skip all of the courses I'm taking
 
1:26 AM
Maybe.. someone who does understand C could give me some pointers? I'm just really stuck and been at it for the last couple of day's.
 
@GitaarLAB Unfortunately, that's not nearly enough data to figure out the exact algorithm being used. Just for example, one of the tricky parts with most LZ* compression is what you do when your dictionary gets full. You can dump it immediately, and start over, or you can keep it indefinitely, or you can keep it until/unless compression ratio starts to drop, then dump it and start over, etc.
 
^ this (I've studied LZW & LZ77 back in uni)
 
I can dump full data (short)?
 
@GitaarLAB 0xB4DB33F, 0xFEEFEEFEE.
There you go, pointers!
 
0xDEADC0DE
 
1:29 AM
@Borgleader Why two A's?
 
because im tired :P
 
Lol, ok, I asked for pointers. Got it :)
 
Plus you're lucky you have the hardware. When I was your age I had a Gateway desktop my Dad was really controlling over. I couldn't so much as install any program without his permission...yeah...sucked.
 
@GitaarLAB See, I made a funny joke!
 
Ran Win. XP, never heard of the Linux OS until I was a freshman in college. That beast was worse than the Dell I have, 384 MB RAM and a 30 GB HD. When virus scans started I had to get up and leave, come back in a few hours because the whole thing locked up. Never had the opportunities you have. Use them wisely. That's the way I feel when I see all of these gamers here down my hallway with beast rigs, >2 GPUs costing thousands of dollars.
I came from a small, dying town where no one had any money or cared about the outside world and comptuers weren't really much of a concern, i.e. anything on the shelf at Wal Mart was amazing. Literally
 
1:30 AM
@Borgleader: to the point: sourceforge.net/p/xmp/libxmp/ci/…
scan to: decode_lzd
window-size seems: 2 pow 9
 
@GitaarLAB LZ* work by building up strings, so they're going to start by producing 9-bit codes. They'll typically pre-load the dictionary with all 8-bit values. Then they build up 9-bit codes referring to a string already in the dictionary followed by another character (and transmit the 9-bit codes).
 
@bd1251252 I know how it feels. I only got this PC about 9 months ago. Back then I used an 11 inch laptop.
768mb of ram
 
@Nooble Good for you. Keep studying. Don't let anyone or grades stop you. I wasn't first in my class and obviously not the smartest person, but I still made it to a 4yr university with nearly a full scholarship. Yes, exams and GPA matters, but other things matter as well
 
They are using CLEAR = 256 // clear code */
, Z_EOF = 257
, FIRST_FREE = 258 // first free code */
So I assume everything up to 255 must be a byte (the dictionary).
 
@bd1251252 I'll keep this in mind.
 
1:33 AM
hahahahaha, thanks for the laugh!
 
lolol
 
@bd1251252 You really don't want to start a "when I was your age" conversation, especially with a "you're lucky, when I was your age we had such primitive hardware that..." kind of tone. Get me started on that, and I'll bore everybody to tears (including myself).
 
@JerryCoffin What did you have? Co-Proccessors?
 
@JerryCoffin Lol I'm just saying...geez... a lot of us probably feel that way
 
@JerryCoffin I'm interested. :)
 
1:35 AM
@MarkGarcia Same, I'm always interested in stuff like that. It's humbling, you know?
 
@MarkGarcia He'll tell you about how he had to clean his computer's vacuum tubes.
 
Would the "offset" point backwards from the current location in the plaintext or to a "position" forwards from the beginning of the plaintext?
 
@Nooble lmao
 
What's this with this 9 bits, I can not find an example on binary level.
 
1:36 AM
@JerryCoffin Okay, nevermind.
 
Bye everyone, be back later. Gotta go retain my sanity
 
@bd1251252 Have fun with that.
 
@JerryCoffin Did you work with Charles Babbage and his analytical engine?
 
@JerryCoffin Is it related to:
From the invention of computer programming languages up to the mid-1980s, many if not most computer programmers created, edited and stored their programs line by line on punched cards. The practice was nearly universal with IBM computers in the era. A punched card is a flexible write-once medium that encodes data, most commonly 80 characters. Groups or "decks" of cards form programs and collections of data. Users could create cards using a desk-sized keypunch with a typewriter-like keyboard. A typing error generally necessitated repunching an entire card. In some companies, programmers wrot...
 
All I find (and understand) is based on 'codes' (like <0,0,C(g)> etc)..
 
1:38 AM
Since I couldn't find my picture of my dog, for now, I will stick to this avatar.
If anyone is wondering, it's a dropbear.
 
@Borgleader s/punched card/IBM/
 
@Borgleader Not really, though slide rules were still used at that time.
 
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@JerryCoffin Jerry, let's party!
 
@aclarke Well, I do need to go get some supper soon. Hadn't planned on much of a party though--probably just a burger or maybe a burrito (pretty good Mexican place nearby).
 
The analytical engine supported loops!
 
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1:40 AM
@JerryCoffin Can I start? I built a Sinclair ZX81
 
A party between 2 guys sounds very 'interesting'
 
@aclarke Oooh 4kb of memory.
Can it run crysis?
 
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@chmod711telkitty feel free to chime in. iPhone 1 probably doesn't cut it...
 
@aclarke I wanted a ZX81, but was so broke at the time I couldn't afford even that. When I started college, a guy down the hall had one, but then I mostly wrote code for the college's mainframe.
 
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@Nooble no, but it would play 'guess the number between 1 and 10' very well
 
1:42 AM
@aclarke Oh, it could do more than that. Played quite a decent game of NIM.
 
@aclarke It looks like it could be used as a fancy door wedge.
 
@Nooble I guess--for a strange enough definition of "fancy".
 
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@JerryCoffin One guy in college would not stop blabbering about his Apple 2e. News to some: Apple fans were annoying from the very beginning.
 
Although it's not the first time jerry partied with another guy, I remembered the time he did it with his young Asian squeeze in San fran ... Was it early last year? >_<
 
@JerryCoffin Does your door wedge have 4kb of memory?
I think not!
 
1:44 AM
@chmod711telkitty A bit over a year ago, yeah. Pretty good looking guy too...
 
@aclarke At least people weren't lining up for it over night.
 
@Nooble My door wedge has 8 megabytes.
 
😂
 
@JerryCoffin ?
I need to beat this 8mb
 
There doesn't seem to be an std::ofstream constructor taking a FILE*, is there a way to get a stream from a C-style file pointer?
 
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1:46 AM
I still have a Casio PB-100. Looks like it needs fresh mercury batteries...
 
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Gonna go find something in my house that looks like a door wedge.
 
@JerryCoffin: could you please point me to an example with such magical '9-bit codes' that feature unicorn properties?
 
how many of you guys have bought actual C++ standards?
 
Something that would finally get me started..
 
1:47 AM
Ha! My Nintendo 2DS looks like it could be used as a door wedge. Beat 128MB of ram.
 
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@Nooble In my college, we used to write password stealing shell scripts
 
@aclarke What was there to steal?
 
@nightcracker I swear I never wasted my money on such a thing. Oh wait, my wife's not looking. I guess I don't need to lie about it....
 
@JerryCoffin physical or pdf?
 
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@Nooble you could get access to another 50kb storage!
 
1:50 AM
@OllieFord No, not that I know of. In the old days, you could get the fileno from a FILE *, then create a stream from that. Long gone though (at least in most libraries).
 
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@nightcracker is it available on torrents?
 
@nightcracker Actual standards only PDF. I did get a physical copy of the FDIS of C++98 though.
 
@aclarke let's just say that google can be used to find many a thing :)
 
@aclarke You were hacking servers?
 
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@Nooble accounts of dummies. the students who only grudgingly did their computer time were never interested in what other files were lying around in their storage.
 
1:53 AM
@aclarke My old calculator. Well, that one looks brand new, but mine looked about like that 30 years ago or so.
 
@JerryCoffin I find it weird that "official" standards cost money
@JerryCoffin why does C++ use the ISO standards system at all?
 
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oooo - so jealous! i wanted something in that line, couldn't afford it.
 
@nightcracker But it's ISO's only source of funding!
@nightcracker Because the other option is ECMA.
 
@MarkGarcia ? You can create standards documents without using either organization
 
@nightcracker For one thing, in many countries if people from different companies participated in creating such a standard without it being an official standard, it would be considered illegal collusion.
 
1:56 AM
@JerryCoffin I fail to see how that works
 
Well ISO has the name and reputation.
 
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Also established procedures
 
politics.. nothing more.
 
@nightcracker Most countries see companies in the same industry as properly being competitors. Cooperation is only allowed within rather tightly regulated circumstances.
 
Oh yeah, and some people with the illusion of 'guarding their profession' making thinks secret, giving them different names etc.. Just like building an exclusive club with secret handshakes etc.
 
1:59 AM
Also ISO has close ties to the UN.
 
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Collusion between companies has a long and ignoble history. Price fixing agreements for mutual high profits is evil.
 
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See also diamond industry
 
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See also why lightbulbs have lifetime measured in 100's of hours not in years
 
So it's in a better position to organize companies/orgs in different countries.
@aclarke See also oil/energy industry
 
What way would you guys recommend to create multiple arrays? I need to create 10 arrays but don't want to do it manually...
 
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2:01 AM
@AlexCastro ask a few friends to help
 
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each one could make maybe 2 or 3 arrays each
 
Thanks
 
@AlexCastro ask the compiler nicely
 
Lol friendly
 
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I still have some old arrays in the back shed. You can have them free, but you'd need to pay for shipping.
 
2:03 AM
@AlexCastro Yes, this room sure is.
 
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This room is full of Comic Genius.
 
@AlexCastro What are you using them for? You might want a 2D array (i.e., an array of arrays) or you might want an array of structs.
 
@MarkGarcia Not what I meant. Was referring to @nightcracker's grammer
 
@AlexCastro Still wouldn't make my statement false. ;)
 
what is a grammer?
 
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2:04 AM
The best languages encourage good manners. For example, Intercal has a "PLEASE" keyword.
 
Agh nightcracker you got me
 
@nightcracker The woman married to your granper, of course.
 
10 arrays is only one array and 4 copy-pastes.
 
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@MartinJames /does the maths...
 
@jerry Coffin: Could you please point me to an example with those magical 9-bit codes?
 
2:05 AM
@MartinJames 10 arrays is one array and one copy paste (for those who speak binary).
 
@aclarke lol yes, gotta be 16 so 2^4 ;)
 
@GitaarLAB Example of what, exactly? All it means is that you treat the compressed data as 9-bit chunks instead of 8-bits.
 
@JerryCoffin I need to create 10 arrays of size 3 with an int in each position. I can do that no problem, but I'm wondering if there's a way I can create a loop to do this. I can't seem to find a way to dynamically name the arrays.
 
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@MartinJames but a short cut for the last 2
 
@aclarke Yeah..
 
2:06 AM
@AlexCastro Are you using C++?
 
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@MartinJames i'll try that next time i need 10 arrays. should be quite fast
 
@JerryCoffin sorry what's that?
 
lol
 
@AlexCastro [3][10]
 
@MartinJames I was specifically told to create 10 arrays, not a multidimensional array.
 
2:07 AM
@AlexCastro Don't be sorry, be happy.
@AlexCastro That is an array of arrays, not a multidimensional array (which doesn't really exist in either C or what's that).
 
@JerryCoffin: 9-bit chunks containing what? How are they 'structured'? I really can't find an example that goes beyond 'codes' (like <0,0,C(h)><0,0,C(a)><2,2,C(!)> etc)..
 
@JerryCoffin Wouldn't that essentially be 11 arrays then?
 
[sigh]
 
@GitaarLAB They contain indexes into the dictionary.
@AlexCastro How would it be 11 arrays?
 
@JerryCoffin: I get that, but I don't understand the jump from a 'code' to the binary representation.
 
2:10 AM
@JerryCoffin How many arrays would go into this "array" of "arrays"?
 
@aclarke This reminds me when I went to starbucks to use their free wifi. I've heard that there were hackers there, so I thought, why not, let me open up a honeypot. A couple minutes later, some guy was already going at it.
 
@GitaarLAB You have a 9-bit number. You encode that into the next 9 bits of output. For the first code, you write 8 bits to the first byte, and 1 bit to the next byte. The next code will be 7 bits of the second byte, and 2 bits of the third byte (and so on).
 
@JerryCoffin lol
 
He wasn't the smartest though, dumping x86 binaries on my 64bit system...
 
@AlexCastro An array of 10 arrays contains 10 arrays.
 
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2:12 AM
@Nooble hah - did you counter-attack?
 
@JerryCoffin But what about the array that holds those arrays?
 
@Nooble At least that stood a better chance that 64-bit binaries on an x86 system.
 
@JerryCoffin I am limited to 10 arrays. So that would essentially make this step not possible for me.
 
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@AlexCastro Assuming you're talking C or C++ (did you mention that?) there is no dynamic naming of anything.
 
@AlexCastro Oh good lord. You have 30 items. You address them with 2D addressing. In the end, it's just memory.
 
2:13 AM
@Nooble x86 binaries?
 
@aclarke No, I didn't really have the tools for this downloaded.
 
@JerryCoffin: that's where I lost it.. shouldn't bytes that are not in the dictionary then appear as their binary representation in the bitstream? (like for this example that should decode to haha!: <0,0,C(h)><0,0,C(a)><2,2,C(!)>
 
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@Nooble i mean with a scalding latte to the nether regions
 
@JerryCoffin I thought you said it wasn't multidimensional?
 
Because I can't find such a match/pattern
 
2:14 AM
will C++17 surely have concepts?
 
@aclarke With frosting!
 
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@nightcracker the concept of an array of arrays will be clarified
 
@AlexCastro It's not. You address them with 2D addressing. It's really 1D though.
 
@bd1251252 Yes, 32 bit programs.
 
@JerryCoffin Interesting. Could you give me a link to some documentation? I can only find things about multidimensional arrays.
 
2:15 AM
@GitaarLAB I'm not sure what your <0,0,C(h)> is supposed to mean.
@AlexCastro Sorry, I don't have any such links handy.
 
@JerryCoffin stackoverflow.com/questions/7949589/2d-array-vs-array-of-arrays says that "A 2 dimensional array is by definition an array of arrays."
Yet you say "That is an array of arrays, not a multidimensional array".
Is there really a difference?
 
@nightcracker What
 
@CatPlusPlus you're a bit late, I said the word cat
 
@JerryCoffin: sorry, I found this representation most often, figured it was standard. Here goes: <offset,length,character> (in my example for haha!) I jumped back from the pointer not forwards from the start of the dictionary/buffer). <0,0,C(h)><0,0,C(a)><2,2,C(!)>
In other words: clear h, clear a, get ha and append !
 
@GitaarLAB Okay, now I understand. LZW doesn't work that way. When you're sending 9-bit codes, every code must be 9-bits. You don't get a mixture of 8-bits (clear anything) and 9-bits.
 
2:21 AM
@JerryCoffin: now here's the crux: I don't think it's LZW
I think it's a LZ77 derivative
Or even LZ77, that's not sure to me.
The advanced cruncher is LZA, but not the one I'm porting.
That is identified as 'LZD'.. can't find anything on google other than where it originated: zoo files.
The zoo clones even left out this LZD thing.
Again, If I understand 'magic' then I can follow the code in c and usually succesfully port it. But this time I don't understand 'magic' (just it's governing concept) and my c is not good enough to fill in the blanks. I don't even know if the offset is from the start or the end.
 
Holy s*** I have a CSCI exam tomorrow :p
 
@GitaarLAB I believe all LZ* algorithms are the same in this respect. Your first code will always be a number smaller than 256, but it'll still be transmitted as a 9-bit number.
@GitaarLAB zoo files use(d) LZW compression.
 
@JerryCoffin: I think i have learned there are 2 distinct family trees: LZ77 and LZ88 (the last seems the have a prebuild dictionary). Anyway, If someone could point me to some basic explanation that goes beyond the mere concept.. i'd be gratefull!
these 9-bit numbers specifically.
 
@JerryCoffin: regarding zoo lzw.. the source explicitly names one of the 2 supported crunchers as: 'DecodeLzh' decodes a LZH (Lempel-Ziv 77 with dynamic Huffman coding)
 
2:29 AM
@GitaarLAB There's not much to say about them. You simply read 9 bits, and treat it as a number. Once all the 9-bit entries in your dictionary are full, you switch to 10 bits, and so on up to whatever limit you've chosen (16 bits in the case of zoo, if memory serves).
 
So, if you are sure zoo supported lzw, then the lzd must be lzw??
 
@GitaarLAB Hmm...I thought I was sure, but my memory's poor enough that it's probably better to Google for it.
 
@JerryCoffin: thanks for that link (have a star), at least it goes beyond the conceptual part.
@JerryCoffin: you could have a look here: sourceforge.net/p/xmp/libxmp/ci/… That's a reasonable source.
 
@GitaarLAB Reading through, it still misses one crucial point. There's kind of a race condition (so to speak) when the first character of one code is the same as the last character of the previous code. I don't remember the details though.
 
I think they took care of that in the goto part of the loop in the decode function
 
2:35 AM
@GitaarLAB I suppose I could, but I hope you'll forgive me if I pass on that honor.
 
yes! I forgive you! I'm grateful for any pointers (any ;) )
can't blame me for hoping you'd recognize something in there :)
@JerryCoffin: I'm going to work through the helpful link you gave me! At least it hopefully gives me another angle how to look at this! Thank you (and other participators) very much so far!
argl, for future readers: I meant: 2 distinct family trees: LZ77 and LZ78
 
why buffet time would be rock n roll - because after buffet you would feel like a rock & you have to roll all the way home
 
@chmod711telkitty I think you need to incorporate something about Jimmy Buffet.
 
lol
 
warren's buffet?
no wonder he's so rich - coz too many Americans enjoy his food ... wait his operation is global so not just Americans
 
2:47 AM
notepad++ is awesome
So is vim, when I started using that a few weeks ago. B4 then it was all nano :p
 
lmao wow
I have an old Pentium 4 in a dell dim. 3000. I believe it was purchased after the 2002 deadline though
 
@JerryCoffin what do you think about clear_front() and clear_back() that will respectively put the extra capacity gained from clearing at the front or at the back? clear() would be an alias for clear_back()
 
woohoo just nailed down the binary search algorithm. Pry simple for a lot of you but I'm glad I know how it works inside and out
 
3:08 AM
ITT sleep paralysis and fucking hallucinations that are likely to come with it
Tell me
Because jesus fuck I hate this shit
 
@JerryCoffin: Ok I understand the info from the link you have sent. Assuming it's correct in specifying that it describes LZW, then at least I can be sure that what I'm porting is not LZW. Also the 9-bit codes in that example contain the actual bytes in the start of the input (when building up the dictionary). If I'd line up the bits from the compressed result and slide the first uncompressed bytes over them I should find some matches in the beginning. In my case, I don't.
 
lol
Just nailed down insertion sort for my exam!
really odd...windows cmd line stops printing when the numbers get really big. Is that supposed to happen?
 
numbers or number of characters?
 
3:23 AM
Numbers. Insertion sort algorithm works of course on a list that is <1000 "units" long, but when I try for a list of numbers that is >10000 long, it buzzes out a big chunk then halts...maybe my computer's limitation and not the program having an error?
Perhaps because my program is O(n) or worse... ?
 
That's nowhere near 32767 ((2^15)-1) aka signed 16 bit. (and way over 8bit). Lightyears away of (2^31)-1.. Still have memory available when doing the work?
 
How may I check?
 
pfieuw, your machine.. google memory profiling something?
well. actually, can you reach 32766? And then 32768? Just checking it's not something trivial like that.
 
3:59 AM
I'm losing my mind
copy_allocator_on_swap_if_not_maybe_no_no_no_yes?
 
4:55 AM
I'm getting a warning that "generalised initializer lists are a C++11 extension", I'm too rookie to fully understand this - how can I turn off the extension completely so I (hopefully) get a more helpful error , and I don't have to worry that someone else will have more trouble compiling?
 
@CatPlusPlus just don't sleep face up noob
 
 
hallucinations only ever happen if you wake up face up
hth
 
5:57 AM
you would probably be dead if you sleep face down
 
have you been drinking?
jesus christ kitty, it's 7am in the morning
 

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