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2:00 PM
Bastards.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Do your flatmates know you're a robot on the Internet?
 
do they know you're a robot?
 
@TonyTheLion Meh - I've commissioned a 'NO MORE VLAD' T-shirt.
 
@TonyTheLion No. I don't hide it if it comes up, but I don't go around announcing to everyone.
 
@TonyTheLion it's to lure you into a false sense of security before he harvests your organs
 
2:01 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hehe, I was teasing you. :)
 
user50049
Are you contesting the contest context?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes do they know how often you lock yourself out?
 
@thecoshman I'd love to have my organs harvested, at least I'd actually feel of some use for once :P
 
We're contesting the content of the contest context
 
@TimPost context overruled!
 
2:02 PM
@TonyTheLion ah now, I'm sure you'd make a fine door mat
 
@thecoshman thx
 
What is the context of the contesting?
 
@thecoshman There's six of them, so I would say they don't. Unless they've been exchanging notes. shudders
 
I need flatmates
 
I need a flat
 
2:03 PM
@TonyTheLion Yeah - all mine are roundish.
 
Anyone of you Loungers with no life want to come be a flatmate of mine here in London?
 
@thecoshman My locking-outs are sorta distributed among them, hehe.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes do they know you intend for me to dock berth at your couch?
 
I need nothing.
 
Birth?
 
2:03 PM
@TonyTheLion vOV I am +1
 
@thecoshman I mentioned that I'll have a friend over for a few days in Summer.
 
@MartinJames sh
 
thecoshman is pregnant?
5
 
;oo
 
2:04 PM
I'm always the last to hear these things...
 
@MartinJames I did eat a rather big lunch (not really)
 
@MartinJames me too
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes FYI on the of chance that there is a real bad vacant, I expect upgrade rights first :D
 
I want kids too
start with one of course
 
2:05 PM
@thecoshman Sure.
 
@BartoszKP oh my fucking god tat is brilliant!
 
@ScottW arme jongen
 
@TonyTheLion vOv just head to a pound store and pick up a stray
 
@TonyTheLion pedo
 
:DDDDDDDDD
pedolion ;0
 
2:06 PM
@StackedCrooked what?
@thecoshman that's terrible
 
@TonyTheLion I'd make a terrible father
5
 
@TonyTheLion you are a pedophile
 
@StackedCrooked You know, I don't think that joke is as funny as it used to be.
 
@DeadMG :(
 
@TonyTheLion yeah... they'd probably be riddled with diseases
 
2:06 PM
what, it's true.
 
@DeadMG your kids wouldn't be allowed to ask any questions? ;0
 
no
 
@StackedCrooked erm.....
 
I'd probably just forget to feed them and shit
 
:DDD
; D
 
Xeo
2:07 PM
@BartoszKP they'd be sent straight to the bin bed
 
If you forget to feed them they won't shit.
 
:DDDDD literally rotdl
(d for desk, not floor)
 
@MartinJames They also wouldn't live long
 
: D
 
2:08 PM
I"m dying
Baby, what the hell?
 
Xeo
lol, no
he really is not
remember the 40eur?
 
he's good with templates
less so with alcohol
 
..and trains/locks/keys.
 
oh and the ape knows exactly how to troll him
 
@Xeo Hey, I got those back two months later!
 
2:10 PM
so his perfect in not being an alcoholic
 
@ScottW "grounded" hadn't heard that word since last time I watched Boy meets world
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion but I thought alcohol was a template to get drunk?
 
@TonyTheLion I'm good with alcohol. You guys are not as efficient as me.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes doesn't change the fact :p
 
2:10 PM
@ScottW if someone's grounded they can't leave the room and have to stay and chat?
 
@Xeo do tell
@R.MartinhoFernandes cheap
 
@BartoszKP sounds like my life for the last 3+ years
 
:DDDDDD
 
Sep 28 '13 at 2:07, by R. Martinho Fernandes
I just withdrew 40 € and left without the cash.
 
user3010322
@TimPost Yaaay! Thank you! :D
 
2:12 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh yeah that :D
how did you get the money back?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes usually people forget their card
 
@thecoshman the cash is pulled back if not taken, right?
 
@ScottW did you call cardblock?
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked eh, here the card comes first, and then the money
 
oh yea, but the number is on the back of the card, which you left in the machine
damn
 
2:13 PM
@Xeo that's a better system imo
 
@StackedCrooked it's also this way here
 
@ScottW <3
 
@ScottW Really? You think forgetting the card is worse than forgetting the money?
 
that's what he means
 
@BartoszKP yeah... but who doesn't take money just sitting in the machine?
 
Xeo
2:14 PM
not without my pin
 
I'm broke, not a biggy
 
@thecoshman They reversed the transaction two months later. ATMs pull the money back in after some time.
 
I'm terribly broke
 
@thecoshman Turns out no one did. It was 4am or something.
@ScottW Your card works without a PIN?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oooh, so another "you lucky bastard" moment.
 
2:15 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes In 'Murica yes
 
@thecoshman yeah, I assumed that no one come along (edit: correctly)
 
That reminds me - I have to check my bank. On Friday, I shopped at Tesco and the POS-of-shit crashed just after I had removed my card. The last thing I saw on the chip & PIN display was 'Transaction complete, remove card'. The store manager would not let me leave with my goods until I had paid again at another till. I was not happy. If I've paid twice, I will be even angrier.
 
@ScottW I rest my case.
 
@MartinJames sounds very dodgy...
 
Xeo
can't use my card without PIN
 
2:16 PM
Notice how I haven't even started my case.
 
@ScottW see, in the world outside of America, we have some sense, and do not just authorise any old bit of plastic .
 
What's the reasoning?
 
@thecoshman I strongly suspect the POS terminals are VB :(
 
PINs too difficult for your tiny murican brains?
 
@MartinJames VB?
 
2:17 PM
@MartinJames I don't think that it's entirely unreasonable for that manager. It's a lot easier for you to claim the money back from your bank or Tesco than it would be for him to find you if it turned out it didn't go through the first time.
 
That said, any fucking card can be used online with only the information contained within it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes they still think signatures are secure
 
@thecoshman Yeah - probably with 'DoEvents' calls everywhere.
 
moernig
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes address
 
Xeo
2:18 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes dunno, my Maestro card is never accepted anywhere :(
 
@ScottW No, I'm not.
@ScottW We don't go crazy on credit around these parts.
 
@ScottW no... if I use my debit card, it is MY money, not credit.
@R.MartinhoFernandes well, we did, hence the crash
 
@ScottW No. It sucks.
 
@Xeo At least here, Maestro is definitely sub-par. Visa is the most reliable/widely accepted.
 
@ScottW some banks are rolling out a system. My cards requireds I enter some details
 
2:19 PM
@Xeo I hate Maestro with a furious fiery passion
 
@ScottW pawned
 
Xeo
you could use the bank information for direct debit, though, I guess
 
VISA or GTFO
 
both my debit cards are Visa and my credit card is MasterCard.
 
@thecoshman You mean the tiny numbers on the back?
 
2:19 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes No.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG not that I really need it
 
but then
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no. I have a password that I have to enter say "third, forth and 11th" character from. That password has NOTHING to do with my card
 
it's not like I pay for much online these days being as how I've got no money :P
 
@thecoshman Enter where?
 
2:20 PM
... well... it's used as a password for it :S
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Essentially, they forward to the issuer's website and ask them to verify you.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes sites redirect to a VISA page to process that final step before it is authorised.
 
so the issuer typically uses whatever procedure is normally used for online banking.
 
But that's nowhere. :(
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I've noticed I'm on the meet-up list ;0 till when should I let you know? It would be awesome to join, but I'm not sure yet if it'll be possible
 
2:21 PM
what's nowhere?
 
@ScottW We don't go crazy about calling things what they're not around these parts :P
 
@BartoszKP vOv the meetup is the 7th... the 7th would be too late
 
29 Jan 2014 POS 0189 28JAN14 , TESCO STORE 3327 , UTTOXETER 2 GB - 16.85 £1,296.28
29 Jan 2014 POS 0189 28JAN14 , TESCO STORE 3327 , UTTOXETER 2 GB - 16.85 £1,279.36
BASTARDS!!!!
 
2 gigabytes? Nice.
 
@MartinJames DUDE! talk about shopping!
 
2:22 PM
@MartinJames You spent £1300 at Tesco?
(also, why are the two amounts different?)
 
@MartinJames lol, different amounts? : D
 
Are you laundering money?
 
@BartoszKP Ninjaed bitch.
 
damn
 
@DeadMG I spent 2*16.85 and got 1*16.85 worth of goods:((
 
Xeo
2:23 PM
the amount is 16.85
the large number is his balance
 
oh wait, I see.
 
ITT no one knows how to read a statement
 
Xeo
that's not a lot of balance, I have to say
 
2:23 PM
That tops it off, bank balance posted in the Lounge
 
I have like 2 euros left in one account.
 
@Xeo some people don't hang on to their money, or just can't save that much each month
 
@TonyTheLion It's only one account - no biggie.
 
@Xeo alright mr money bag
 
I should probably get some more there lest it go into the red with maintenance fees or some shit.
 
2:24 PM
well
 
@TonyTheLion lack self control, or plenty of bills?
 
@MartinJames If it don't bother you, then fine
 
I have two accounts and one of them has nothing in and the other is way into the overdraft.
 
@thecoshman don't know, I never implied it was me, I was just saying.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG sounds like a recipe for disaster
 
2:25 PM
well
when I said "broke" I meant it :P
 
@DeadMG vOv you still have more overdraft to use right?
 
no
 
lol
It almost sounds like a scam.
 
I had to dump my savings into my current account to try to avoid a €4 a month SCAM for having an account (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
 
@ScottW you're a drug dealer!!!!!
that's awesome!
 
2:28 PM
Except it's with weapons, and not drugs.
 
I have a pension... no idea what is going with it or how it is working or what ever... money goes out each month... I assume I get money back at some stage vOV
 
user1804599
Is JIRA a good programme? I just installed it on our server.
 
@rightfold no
 
user1804599
It can’t be worse than Mantis.
 
it's not bad
 
2:29 PM
@thecoshman at some stage in your life you'll be able to withdraw money from that fund.
 
Dammit, why do you guys star anything embarrassing for me like crazy?
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user1804599
@thecoshman What is bad about it?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's just Loungeitis
Star all the things that are least starworthy first
we need more tonies in this Lounge
too many barteks
5
 
@TonyTheLion ... on the dance floor.
My e-mail client is gone bananas.
 
@ScottW I would say its safe to conclude you'd dance with anything alive?
 
2:32 PM
Every so often it marks the latest 200 messages as unread.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes give it an ape
 
@TonyTheLion I star anything even remotely embarrassing for anyone, even for me, like crazy /cc @R.MartinhoFernandes
 
@BartoszKP oh you. I thought you were the puppy for a second.
sounds like Puppy talk
 
is that embarrassing ? don't know if I should star
 
no, its just the way the Puppy is
also, why the fuck does my code not work???
 
2:34 PM
good, when you star too much you start feeling cheap
 
@ScottW oh baby
 
lol, finding citation entry for publication from 1976 was apparently easier than for one from 1994 :|
 
@BartoszKP You've got time. Dunno if we'll be enough that we should reserve a venue or something, but even then, giving an answer by May should be good enough.
 
user1804599
@BartoszKP What do you like about it?
 
@ScottW I've read an article recently, that conflicting feelings and other conflicting stuff leads to creativity ;0
@R.MartinhoFernandes great, by May it won't be a problem, thanks
 
2:36 PM
@ScottW Now you know how I feel :P
 
I've decided I won't come to Berlin in June. CBA
 
Really?
Should I move you to the FILE_NOT_FOUND list or the no partypoopers list?
 
Put me on the TONY_NOT_FOUND list
 
@rightfold My company started using it like a year ago, and it doesn't frustrate me. In contrast to TRAC, RT, and some other pieces of shit I don't remember now that's an achievement. I like Mingle best, but it's not free.
 
I'd have to drive there to be comfortable physically, and :effort:
10hrs drive
you insane baby?
unless you come join me?
my feet don't like that
 
user1804599
2:40 PM
@BartoszKP Currently using trial version of JIRA.
 
hmm
 
user1804599
If we like it we’ll buy it. Only $20 anyway.
 
I keep not being able to deploy my good soldiers because they're too badly injured.
 
oh, so it's also not free
 
2:40 PM
@DeadMG so how good are they really :p
 
@rightfold if it's also not free, consider testing Mingle also
 
@rightfold I've used JIRA, meh
 
user1804599
@BartoszKP Ok.
 
user1804599
Hexapoda best bug tracker. :P
 
@ScottW who? The only pirate that could drive me is the @thecoshman if he had a damn license
puppy won't drive me, he broke
 
2:42 PM
@TonyTheLion I can drive you! If you come to Poland first ;0 but that's easy!
 
also, if I have to drive round Berlin, I can never have a drink
 
I could drive if I had a car.
 
I can drive to Belgium, and you drive the rest in my car?
 
Oh right. Drinking..
 
2:43 PM
and the drinking bit
 
Magnetic stripe cards are still dominant in the US?
 
@TonyTheLion that could work
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeap
 
I know lots of good exercises for the morning to be able to drive after drinking!
 
@BartoszKP erm no
I won't drive if I have alcohol in my blood
 
2:44 PM
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@R.MartinhoFernandes in canada, it's all smartcard cards
 
I can't risk losing my license, I'm too dependant on it
@ScottW we would fit together well.
 
@TonyTheLion the point of them is not to have alcohol in your blood faster. I always verify it with analyser obviously :0
 
oh I see
 
I drink loads of alcohol.
This may be a problem.
 
2:45 PM
yea
 
I'll have to be disciplined.
 
you're not driving my car with alcohol in your blood
 
No way am I going anywhere near driving while in Berlin. It's bad enough when really away on business trips. I end up hiring taxis to get back to my hotel and, next morning, hiring another to retrieve my car.
 
:DD
 
The problem is after my last Berlin trip, I was in agony for over a month after, I really don't want that again
 
2:46 PM
I'll get one of those one-week U/S tourist tickets when I arrive.
 
(country-code % 2 == 0) decides which side of the street you drive on! :p
 
Berlin is not very well suited for disabled people that can't walk easily without a car.
Thanks baby
 
What @Martin means is this, for anyone else interested citytourcard.com/en/berlin/starting-page.html.
 
@melak47 lol, no
 
@ScottW I can get around Central London okish
without dying
 
2:48 PM
@TonyTheLion What does it mean to be able to walk with a car?
 
fucking shitty too late to edit
its missing a comma or something
 
@TonyTheLion its is missing a comma or something also
: D
 
true
I have adapted my life to my inability to walk a lot
 
@TonyTheLion s/((?:\S+\b){4})((?:\S+\b){3}))$/\2\1/ or something like that, lol
 
@doug65536 yea that
 
2:51 PM
@ScottW Tony's lying. He lives in Borneo.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes shhhhh
don't reveal my secrets
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah - it's easy. You buy the tickets at the station shop. You can buy any combo. of tickets at one time. When you want to start using them, you get them time-stamped by shoving them into a yellow 'validation' machine in a station.
 
@TonyTheLion :S well... I'm pretending to work on that one really hard
 
@thecoshman keep up that pretense :/
 
Borneo (invaded by the Brits)
 
2:53 PM
so yeah... "Shit breaks when you give it a load well beyond what it was designed for, you make fix now!" erm...
 
In C#, can I capture the state of some object with the exception?
 
@TonyTheLion plus i have flights booked :S
 
@thecoshman I knew that, I was teasing you
 
@TonyTheLion what do you mean? add object's reference to the exception object or what?
 
2:55 PM
I do want to come to Berlin, really, but I don't desire for it to turn into an agony fest
 
@TonyTheLion well... if I could drive, and could get a car by then, and you did pay for ferry/tunnel vOv I've done less well planned things
 
@BartoszKP so I can still look at the last object's state when being in the catch block
 
@TonyTheLion how do you define "last object"? or you mean last state of an object from within the exception was thrown?
 
@thecoshman the car is not the issue, I have one you could use, the problem is your license and the fact you already paid for a flight
 
2:57 PM
@TonyTheLion stuff is in scope in the catch block, yes
 
@BartoszKP just any object that I want to see the state of when in the catch
@doug65536 no
 
@TonyTheLion OIC - you mean when the exception is caught after flyback through multiple methods of different objects.
 
I can't look at the state of something in the try blcok
 
@TonyTheLion there is no stack unwinding (or how do you call it) as in C++. as long as references point to an object, the object still exists, irrelevant in what type of block the execution is
 
@TonyTheLion you mean, somewhere far away after unwind??
 
2:58 PM
@MartinJames even if its in the same object, just when inside catch I can't go and look at the thing that threw the exception and see the state it was in just before the exception
 
@TonyTheLion that money is spent either way
 
so I have to rerun my program every damn time
 
@TonyTheLion the GC will keep the object alive as long as anything has a reference to it
 
Just add it to the exception
 
@TonyTheLion you see those "evaluation time exceeded" or sth messages?
 
2:59 PM
@BartoszKP does not exist in the current context
even though it just threw an exception from that very context
 

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