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8:00 PM
I wonder what Vlad looks like
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@EtiennedeMartel Quite true--fact remains that sex without payment or love isn't really restricted to some select few of the most attractive people.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Dude.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :D
Vlad is the new tabs-v-spaces. Get over it.
 
You just secretly love him
 
Not even secretly
 
Many restraining orders in your future
 
(hiho btw)
 
Ell
Man svgs are horrible to make!
Everything must be perfect!
 
Ell
8:03 PM
@CatPlusPlus I can always zoom in enough to find imperfections somewhere
 
@Ell Then don't zoom in!
 
Ell
I can't help it :'(
 
Turn on antialiasing dummy
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus I mean two lines being almost parallel but not or something
or almost aligned
 
Ell
8:04 PM
then I zoom and find a corner sticking out somewhere
 
@FredOverflow that's how I feel when I first compile and run something
 
Ell
Okay I need help with a basic mechanics question :( i.imgur.com/5naJCNa.png
 
@Ell I hate that stuff
 
Ell
It was all going dandy, doing F=MA when I thought shit - should I be separating A into vertical and horizontal components?
 
8:07 PM
@Ell It's trivial
F is a letter
 
Ell
kek
 
@Ell Only if you want F separated into vertical and horizontal components.
 
@CatPlusPlus I like how things a simple for you
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah. Of course! Thank you
 
8:08 PM
@ALOToverflow You get what you ask for
 
btw was any concrete decision made on the policy to adopt?
 
@Ell Btw, you do. Don't forget the weight of the body.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oops. I have that in my hand drawn diagram, forgot to put on the svg
 
@TonyTheLion Yep:
I think women are inferior to men in most ways. Honestly, I don't see how anyone could not believe this.
 
(though you could instead split the weight into tangential and normal components and not split anything else)
 
8:10 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think I'll wait to have real kids myself
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes That is what we do in class :)
 
@Griwes Why do we have this shit in the Lounge?
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Ell
So I'll do that
 
@FredOverflow Because redditors are funny
 
Ell
ikr? ["men", "women"].sort.first is clearly "men"
 
8:11 PM
That's just stupid
 
ITT Reporting live from reddit_txt
 
@Ell So women have a higher index...
 
finally, food
BYE
 
I hope it's not Vlad.
 
Ell
Okay I got 4.3 newtons for F
that seems awful low >.<
 
8:15 PM
1N is 1kg over 1m or something like that iirc
Probably there's time there somewhere too
 
Ell
One newton is the force required to accelerate a mass of 1 kilogram by 1ms^-2
 
So why do you think 4.3 is low
 
Ell
you know good question.
 
@CatPlusPlus well, it's less than 5
 
Ell
Oh wait. It should be higher than 5 I think
 
8:17 PM
No?
The total force on the body has magnitude 2.5N.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Eating Vlad?
 
Ell
gah I can no longer reason about this >.<
 
@CatPlusPlus You mean depressing.
 
FN should definitely be higher than 2.5N, but why 5N?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Trainwreck in slow motion etc
 
8:18 PM
@Ell I got 4.316 N.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes because it is accelerating at 5ms^-2
@BoniTea me too :) thanks!
 
@Ell But it's half as heavy
 
@Ell It also has 0.5kg of mass.
 
Ell
yes. That is a very good point
ahh my mind is mush at the minute
 
user3010322
Hm.
 
8:30 PM
s/at the minute//
 
I think women are, irrational, inconsiderate, and shouldn't be allowed to go out to eat in large groups without male supervision
I can't help but picture these guys as eternally single.
 
Ell
I think that one is funny
I can imagine it in a parody documentary sketch
 
Does anyone know if this float comparison could yield different results depending on if I write 1. or 2.:
1. (val >= 0.0)
2. !(val < 0.0)
 
Yeah, Poe's Law and all that.
 
user1804599
@ManofOneWay (NaN >= 0.0) == false, (NaN < 0.0) == false, false != !false.
 
Ell
8:35 PM
@EtiennedeMartel TIL
 
user1804599
@ManofOneWay Three is only OneWay to do it, Man.
 
so erm yeah... time for some total stay bait...
My relationship leveled up :D
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Ell
@thecoshman What to?
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'm actually afraid that some of them aren't =/
 
@Borgleader Or maybe they're just a totally different person in real life.
@thecoshman WOOOOOOO
 
8:41 PM
@thecoshman You're playing the sims aren't you? :P
 
I've evolved from lowly boyfriend to epic fiancé
so epic I even bother with the accent (and finding out how to spell it correctly)
 
You proposed?
 
@Ell Experience shows that redditors are usually 100% serious and shitty
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ... initiatives were taken
 
user1804599
Ohh.
 
user1804599
8:44 PM
PHP is doing something sensible.
 
user1804599
<?php echo [] - (object)[];
^D
Fatal error: Unsupported operand types in - on line 1
 
so, SpaceBase is a thing
but it's written in Java
 
user1804599
TeamCity is also written in Java and it works just fine.
 
@rightfold What is the second operand? An array cast to an object?
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow Yeah. It yields an empty object.
 
8:45 PM
@rightfold but TeamCity is not a high-performance realtime spatial database
 
user1804599
If SpaceBase is, then what is the problem?
 
@thecoshman Well.
 
it requires me to use Thrift to connect to it, for one
also apparently it has no serialization whatsoever
 
user1804599
Implement your own API.
 
user1804599
They hopefully use polymorphism.
 
8:47 PM
@rightfold then I'd need to write Java code, I think
 
user1804599
Scala.
 
might as well implement my own database
 
@rightfold do you know hlsl?
 
There are real-time systems in Java :ssh:
 
@EtiennedeMartel ¬_¬ that was not worth the stretch to turn on my speakers (but thanks anyway)
 
user1804599
8:47 PM
@JohanLarsson I don’t know anything about 3D graphics. Don’t ask me.
 
user3010322
Domagoj knew. But then he disappeared. =[
 
also apparently low-latency spatial databases are vaporware in general
which is a fucking shame if you ask me
 
user1804599
Use MongoDB.
 
@rightfold meh
 
@JohanLarsson I know... barely.
 
8:50 PM
@rightfold is it webscale low latency?
can it handle realtime changes?
 
Ell
Oh lord I find this hilarious for some reason youtube.com/watch?v=y9K18CGEeiI
 
What's "low latency"
 
@CatPlusPlus MMO RTS
 
MMO RTS what
 
@Ell nice, Mario music
 
8:54 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I wrote an image diff shader that is barely working, mostly just wanted to check with rightfold if he knew the language
 
Not keeping this shit in memory will probably kill your fancy MMO anyway
 
@CatPlusPlus that can be handled by either database itself or a middleware
ideally I'd have a single database solution that would do that for me
 
No, just talking to database
 
Also why are you writing MMOs don't write MMOs blah
 
Ell
8:56 PM
Or rather, write MOGs
 
meh, I wrote MMO in a lack of a better term
 
Look at existing MMO servers, and then write it in Erlang
 
I don't expect hitting 100 players ever so
@CatPlusPlus SpaceBase has Erlang API, that's a nice thing
Could I learn Erlang in a reasonably short time?
 
Ell
Nope
You can't learn anything in a reasonably short time :O
 
You want scalability, not ~superfancy~ database that can do everything on a single node (hint:it can't)
 
8:57 PM
@Ell thanks for such kind words
1 min ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
I don't expect hitting 100 players ever so
Assume 100 players is the ultimite hard limit
 
Then pick anything?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes not really. Latency might still be a problem in a traditional SQL database.
 
WoW servers run off MySQL
hth
 
> SpaceBase was specifically designed for real-time or near real-time applications (requiring low latency), modifying many spatial objects at a high rate (a high write-ratio)
 
@CatPlusPlus enough said
 
8:58 PM
(The open-source ones I mean, dunno what Blizzard does obviously)
 
Who's trying to be unreal and create an MMO?
 
Dunno if I'd call MMO a real-time system
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes also I want spatial operations
 
oh a bartek
 
@CatPlusPlus yeah that's why I even bother asking.
if it was a regular online game I'd obviously write my own server
and for Travian/Ogame I'd just use Postgres
 
8:59 PM
obviously
 
but that's kinda borderline
 
Because everyone writes their database servers all the time
 
@CatPlusPlus thing is, SpaceBase is the only such thing I was able to find
so actually... yes, everyone writes their database servers.
 
@TonyTheLion want to make MMO => think less
 
Mostly because it's the only thing bothering to use buzzwords you're looking for
 
9:01 PM
@CatPlusPlus what the hell am I supposed to look for then
 
@CatPlusPlus considering many online games will add artificial latency, no.
 
Ell
Man I'd kill for some of a hog roast right now
 
Are you pregnant?
 
> Please note that the Thrift and Erlang APIs provides only a subset of the capabilities provided with the Java and C++ APIs.
god damn it.
 
hmmm
 
9:03 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes coshman is
 
@Ell according to urban dictionary hog roast is a sexual position. What am I supposed to think of this?
 
turns out that practically every recruit I get specializes as a sniper.
when I really don't need more snipers :P
@StackedCrooked He probably refers to more literally a piece of roasted pork.
 
@StackedCrooked According to UD, everything is a sexual position.
 
I wonder if I'll gain anything by building caching middleware
 
9:04 PM
technically I still get the benefits of absurdly fast global queries but I wonder if I will ever need them
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes I wonder if there's one "The Robot".
 
@Ell funny you say that, been contemplating if that should be the meal or not
 
Oh, I know for a fact that EVE uses SQL Server
 
You don't know what you have yet.
 
@TonyTheLion how did that happen again?
 
9:05 PM
How can you gain anything?
 
@CatPlusPlus I dug that up too. The question appeared on gamedev.SE, but as most questions there turned into idiots shouting "noSQL"
 
@CatPlusPlus it also uses a metric butt tonne of smart stuff
 
@Ell that looks good
 
It's hard to do shared-nothing MMO, so scaling these things isn't very easy
 
Ell
@StackedCrooked It really does
I'm so hungry now :(
 
9:07 PM
@CatPlusPlus well no one seriously tries an mmo on one server
 
@CatPlusPlus assuming "fuck scaling" attitude and assuming I don't want to write my custom in-memory database... does your arsenal have anything for that?
 
Ell
For some reason regular roast pork never tastes as good as a full pig
 
@BartekBanachewicz Any database ever
 
@CatPlusPlus latency tho.
 
@StackedCrooked lol
 
user1804599
9:07 PM
PostgreSQL.
 
@thecoshman donno
 
You're processing shit in discrete time intervals, not real-time
 
am I supposed to supply profiler results at this point?
 
@Ell A full what.
 
@CatPlusPlus correct.
 
9:08 PM
Also you want to keep your shit in memory anyway, and only serialise to database
 
@TonyTheLion yet you are still willing to state it as fact ¬_¬
 
Latency is irrelevant
 
@thecoshman this is the Lounge, remember?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes how did I get pregnant? (man, never thought I'd be asking that)
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@CatPlusPlus but that can be hard and error-prone to write :(. I wanted to use PostGIS extensions for spatial queries
 
9:08 PM
@CatPlusPlus untill it isn't
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes a cut of roast pork cooked doesn't taste as good as pork cooked as a hog roast
 
@thecoshman Damn you, I was eating.
 
if I build the middleware myself I essentially lose that
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes on the screens now is it?
 
9:09 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Beh then just do it
 
In reality nobody here is writing shit like that, so experimenting is the only way forward anyway
 
true enough
I'll shut up now and come back with timings
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh yeah... ¬_¬ typos
ooooh, so it turns out like 90% of my 'typos' are infact just me being stupid.
 
9:12 PM
yes, I did just get told what 'typo' really means :P
 
:lol:
@R.MartinhoFernandes Time? For me probably best after 19:00ish, cause I might have guests earlier as I lead very rich and busy social life
 
I'll do some exploring in the morning, but then nothing. 19 is fine for me.
 
(Let's add that's 19 GMT+1 for the timezone-challenged people)
 
@Xeo, @The @Dead?
 
user3010322
Just ping me in chat. If I'm around, I'll party.
 
9:17 PM
I'm available all day, every day.
 
That's not how scheduling works
 
user3010322
vOv shit's complicated.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes ...
but yes, I'll be around
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what's this? another mass @xeo plinking?
@xeo these must be getting tedious
 
No
You can stop now tia
 
9:19 PM
WTF dude, I plinked him once. That's not what "mass" means.
 
Xeo
it's for Paranoia
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I plinked @xeo twice though vOv
 
hello
 
thrice...
 
Xeo
and my '...' responce was because of his name order
 
user3010322
9:20 PM
Tactical~
 
Everyone knows you're a commie mutant traitor, no point hiding it
 
user3010322
So not only is @Xeo on StackCrooked's to-do list, he's also on Robot's hit list.
 
user3010322
You're all kinds of fucked. o.0
 
Cat gets it.
 
Xeo
I'm a traitor spy
 
Ell
9:24 PM
I near a pair of compasses (or whatevsies they called)
 
hmm
sniper.. assault.. sniper.. heavy.. sniper.. sniper..
this is a poor balance.
 
Will you guys want to roll up characters, or take some pre-rolled stats?
 
since I have no idea what I'm doing, pre-rolled would likely be more effective
 
Hmm, I'll have to pirate some PDFs of this thing for handiness.
 
9:27 PM
I have the player part of the book, but pre-rolled sounds good
 
Better than scanning shit in.
 
I'd rather use roll20
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz the things you draw circles with
@R.MartinhoFernandes What are you playing?
 
Cocktails are so gay
 
9:33 PM
@DeadMG Yeah, Enemy Within balanced things up a bit.
I remember how snipers were overpowered in Enemy Unknown.
 
user1804599
Buttplug with a furry tail attached to it is gay.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes (I need filling in).... (said the duchess to the vicar)
 
@EtiennedeMartel They were?
 
@DeadMG Yeah. Most of my teams had a shitload of snipers with Squadsight, with a few assaults for spotting..
 
9:35 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes...
 
hmm
I dislike that because there are some quite tight environments like the UFOs that crash/land
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ahh cheers :)
 
With plasma sniper rifles and double tap, you could kill every enemy in a single turn.
 
@thecoshman I'm running a game of that with Xeo, Cat, puppy on Sunday.
 
@DeadMG Later levels are quite huge.
 
9:36 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I read the intro bit for that, realised it was an RPG and figured, the less I know, the least I spoil
 
But now, in EW, there are those Seekers who cloak and target isolated soldiers, and then strangle them.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I see... over mumble or something?
 
Which means you can't just have a sniper hanging alone at the back.
 
@thecoshman Over this roll20.net, I think.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh that's cool
 
9:37 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes oooh, fancy
what time?
 
Ell
I like playing atmospheric music with p&p
I find www.freeplaymusic.com to be good for it
 
@thecoshman 19
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes which 19:00
AND '19' IS NOT A TIME! EITHER 7 OR 1900!!!
 
It's all numbers, so you lose
 
9:41 PM
Hmm. Can't find PDFs of this. Guess I'll have to scan shit in. :S
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes so 6pm or 8pm (I have an amazingly ignorant comprehension of time zones)
 
@Cat can you e-mail me the one you have?
@thecoshman Former for you
 
It's not that hard to find, but sure
 
I can only find unproducts.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes on a sunday? bit late I would have though, but whatever. What prior reading would I need to do.
 
Xeo
9:42 PM
none
 
Mine is XP SP1
 
Wikipedia page is good enough.
 
Probably
 
@CatPlusPlus That's an unproduct!
But I think XP is close enough.
 
9:43 PM
Don't bother sending though.
I can get that one myself.
 
does that roll20 thing work for linux?
 
I looked over at Amazon and new one costs like 200$
@thecoshman It's a webapp
 
You mention *y alnum but this (besides it not being legal X++ syntax unless macros are involved) doesn't appear in you code? — sehe 7 secs ago
 
@CatPlusPlus not all things are created equal
 
@CatPlusPlus Ow. Out of print and shit.
 
9:46 PM
so do I need to make YET ANOTHER account for something?
 
@rightfold That too
 
Oh, I didn't know that Roll20 thing does WebRTC
 
@CatPlusPlus My old players pooled together and bought mine as a gift. 30 bucks or something.
 
and are you expecting/requiring webcam? because I don't have one :D
 
I don't either.
 
9:47 PM
Fuck webcams
 
user image
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well I'm glad that one is cleared up :D
@R.MartinhoFernandes I take you are GM
 
Xeo
@thecoshman that's what it means to 'run' a game
 
Run it like you mean it.
 
user1804599
@Griwes I had the same problem yesterday.
 
user1804599
9:52 PM
Fucking Pepsi.
 
@rightfold Did you solve it with shark teeth?
 
user1804599
No.
 
user1804599
I solved it with my T-shirt.
 
So apparently it's the exact same problem!
 
@Xeo I am not 100% sober... and paying as much attention as normal
 
9:55 PM
Hmm, Clones in Space doesn't pack a roster of pregened PCs. And neither does Treasonous Commie Mutants from Dimension X. So we'll roll anyway.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes erm... how big of a PITA would it be to not be sure if I can play or not till it comes to it?
 
> The Su-34 "Fullback" two-seat tactical bomber. It has a toilet and food heater in the back. There is literally nothing more that needs to be said than that. Now you can microwave some Chinese, while dropping nukes and microwaving the Chinese.
 
@rightfold wow it's an international problem.Pepsi really has an issue here :p
 
Pepsi is shit. Coca-Cola master race.
 
Ell
They both taste worse than Dr Pepper
 

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