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JBL
3:00 PM
Vlad <3
 
Vlad?
 
@TonyTheLion you're talking about debugger limitations then
 
oh fuck exceptions
they're ruining my life
 
JBL
@MartinJames Vlad.
 
1 min ago, by Cat Plus Plus
Just add it to the exception
 
3:01 PM
@TonyTheLion not sure if I understand, but perhaps just click one position earlier in the "call stack" window, and then you will be able to see it again
 
@doug65536 Erm, what non-historical debugger lets you look at local variables of stack frames that don't exist?
@BartoszKP The current statement is at the top of the call stack in the catch.
Just do what Cat said.
 
Hell, you don't even have to subclass anything, because Exception has Data property for arbitrary shit
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm trying to figure out: 1) whether it has unwinded yet, or the catch is in the same scope as where it threw, and 2) whether he is having trouble at runtime or in the debugger
 
I think I don't understand the problem ;0
 
@CatPlusPlus Some .NET framework class is throwing though, but that is useful to know
 
3:02 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's why I've said "earlier"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Luckily, most of my objects whose dodgy methods raise exceptions have extended lifetimes, (ie heappy things).
 
ah I could catch in there, and rethrow
 
Or, you know, break on throw itself rather than in catch
 
Ctrl+D, E
Ugh, VS key chords.
Almost like emacs.
 
But somehow worse
 
3:04 PM
you can switch to emacs key mappings in VS :P
or you used to
but they're not complete ;0
 
No shit
 
I mean, even things that could've been mapped are not
 
I run on R#/IntelliJ bindings
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Thanks, that's what I wanted :)
 
First time R# asks "do you want to use R# or VS's shortcut for this?" I just say "R#'s for everything".
 
3:05 PM
Yay for Robot!!!!
 
E_starvation raised by object stomach. Need to catch a bite.
 
As long as it's not trilobite
 
no puns please
 
A downward spiral of hunger..
Too late..
 
3:07 PM
I'm stone-cold starving.
 
I was so excited for the solution to my exception problem, I broke my headphones in the process
3
 
@TonyTheLion you nipple
 
@TonyTheLion did it solve it?
 
JBL
@BartoszKP Tag spam-alert.
 
3:08 PM
the headphones or the exceptions?
 
The exception.
 
almost
 
I installed VS2013 from DreamSpark but only got 30 day trial?
 
fixing my headphones first
 
3:09 PM
@CatPlusPlus erm... yes
 
What the fuck is this shit
 
JBL
Student license ?
 
Bullshit?
 
@CatPlusPlus enter key from MSDN subscriber downloads.
 
JBL
3:10 PM
Their interface is horribly shitty.
 
@CatPlusPlus also, DreamSpark doesn't give you license to VS2013 ultimate, just professional iirc. So if you installed ultimate you might need to get professional instead.
 
JBL
@BenjaminGruenbaum Shit wait, it's a 2012, nvm
 
@TonyTheLion Glad to be of help.
 
It gives you license to whatever you can download from it
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :)
 
3:11 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes is that you?
 
Well, the key works at least
 
@EtiennedeMartel What was the group you were talking about yesterday?
 
It used to be baked-in, bleh, stupid DRM shit
 
@JBL I have BizSpark Plus, so I'm unsure about DreamSpark - I just remember trying to get ultimate with it and not having a key for a friend.
 
@StackedCrooked Seems like an clear reference.
 
JBL
3:11 PM
@StackedCrooked
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I presume @CatPlusPlus is talking about Dreamspark Premium, which sure gives Ultimate.
 
> Microsoft Visual Studio Ultimate 2013 32-bit (English) - DreamSpark
 
JBL
@BenjaminGruenbaum Yep, but mine is 2012 so that may be completely irrelevant, and VS2013 Ultimate is another story.
 
It depends on your institution.
 
@Griwes yeah, I haven't considered that case. That might be it.
 
3:13 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes s/an/a/ ಠ_ಠ no some mistakes!
 
Good job
 
lol
still not right
 
Not ironic at all
 
3:14 PM
c'mon, you can make it
 
@ScottW FUCK YOU (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
fuck you right at the source!
 
@ScottW Poor explanation, you didn't want to ask her :(
 
@ScottW How do you do that
 
@ScottW I responded to the original from 2 hours ago, not the quote.
 
3:16 PM
It's literally impossible to get money here without getting the card first
 
@CatPlusPlus merica!
 
@CatPlusPlus read further ;0
 
Makes perfect sense
For USA
 
@ScottW ಠ_ಠ
 
3:19 PM
About as good as identity protection
 
@thecoshman your table flip drawings are great, really ;0
 
@BartoszKP not really.
 
@thecoshman :0 you can do better????
 
@BartoszKP I guess I could make some myself and not just copy them from the internet
erm, people! really, how inappropriate is that title? s/tail//
 
@thecoshman yeah, but still, I wouldn't even bother to copy them, I'd just say "fuck"
 
3:23 PM
I'd say "overdone to hell and back"
 
@BartoszKP I have a scipt :D
 
@ScottW Die Lounge<Schwanz>
Now guess which one I'm translating :P
 
Lounge<>
4
 
Yay, I made a horrible pun with German translations.
 
that is an ultimate pun
 
3:29 PM
how do sheer animations exactly work? Does it increment each variable by a small amount in a matrix and then apply them to the image each frame?
 
@Crowz how does sheer transformation work? how do sheets work? how does animation work?
which question is it?
 
@Crowz you mean shear right?
 
how do sheets work? ._. they're so warm
 
@doug65536 don't be homophonic
 
@Crowz They keep your body heat in.
@ScottW Or at least we could get rid of fossil fuels altogether.
 
3:38 PM
Jeez guise, what you waiting for?
You could be the solution to our oil issues
also "cocktail" is the worst word to type into Google Images NSFW.
 
:DDDDDDDDDD
 
¬_¬ I love reading through trivially short functions
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit boo! old!
 
@Crowz They create a layer of (more or less) "dead" air next to your body. Your body heat warms up that air, and the sheet keeps that warm air there instead of doing as warm air naturally would and rising, to constantly be replaced by colder air.
 
3:43 PM
@JerryCoffin it also helps reduce the rate at which heat is conducted through the air, and also absorbs the heat radiated from you, and radiates it back a bit.
 
@JerryCoffin I'm not sure warm air rises. I think it is more accurate to say, colder air is higher density, so it tends to fall to the lowest point, which pushes the lower density warm air upwards
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Awesome. :D
 
@doug65536 do I push a door, or is a door pushed by me?
5
o_0
 
@doug65536 and the end result is that warm air rises
 
It's easier to get stars in this place than something rather bad to say involving viruses, continents that containing the Sahara and non consensual sexual itnercourse
 
3:48 PM
I'll go to beat up some people ;0
cya all!
 
@thecoshman Technically you push each other. Also you and the Earth are pulling each other at that time.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit net effect, door opens; preferably into your now bloody face ಠ_ಠ
 
In science, buoyancy is an upward force exerted by a fluid that opposes the weight of an immersed object. In a column of fluid, pressure increases with depth as a result of the weight of the overlying fluid. Thus a column of fluid, or an object submerged in the fluid, experiences greater pressure at the bottom of the column than at the top. This difference in pressure results in a net force that tends to accelerate an object upwards. The magnitude of that force is proportional to the difference in the pressure between the top and the bottom of the column, and (as explained by Archimedes'...
 
Wow this question is going insane.
 
@chris in the membrane
 
3:53 PM
I never knew C++ and Java could team up so well to downvote someone.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :'( but I am trying to actually work
 
@thecoshman some of the force the door uses to push you with is instead expended with rotating on the hinges
 
Yay we took a detour to do the Towers of Hanoi.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ಠ_ಠ and some of the energy is spent pumiling you
 
Anyone using justgetflux.com ?
I just installed it and it made my display really yellow. It is easier on the eye though.
 
3:59 PM
today in computer science I learn how sheets work
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I am
Everyone asks why my screen colour is so weird now.
 
@Crowz you print on them?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum It screwed the color settings / luminosity of my laptop. I had to re-install everything since even when uninstalling, reverting to a previous backup didn't "reset" it
 
@HamZa that's scary :S
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Both pulling and pushing!
 
4:06 PM
Ah, and I don't like it when watching a movie :)
 
"the slider isn't showing the value correctly" argh argh argh what did you mean by "correctly" then why do I always have to ask for these obvious details grrrr
@thecoshman pummelling, yes
 
@thecoshman Oh. I though this was a well-known idea, what with Archimedes and stuff.
(Also, I need to check how the heck is "buoyancy" pronounced)
 
welp
off for my CT scan
wish me all the lucks
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 'boy-an-see'
 
Ell
Boy an see
@deadmg good luck bro
 
4:09 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah, but you can't not read wikipedia articles vOv
 
@DeadMG Good luck. Hopefully they'll actually find something this time.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes does that work, or will you require IPA?
 
Turns out -12 and 1e-12 are not the same value. Who knew
 
@thecoshman I checked it myself.
 
4:13 PM
@DeadMG Yikes, have fun. How it gets results
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well, let's have it
 
@DeadMG gl
 
4:21 PM
posted on January 30, 2014

Every binary floating-point number is equivalent to what we might call a binary fixed-point number: a sequence of bits with a binary point separating the integer part from the fractional part.

 
On UTF-8 and encoding, @R.MartinhoFernandes
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit So let me get this straight. You look at a question, and you're surprised when the answer is terrible?
 
hi everyone, is somebody here who knows ActionScript 3.0?
 
@tziuka If anybody here did, I doubt they'd admit it (not to mention actually discussing it).
 
@tziuka I'd rather learn to play harp...
 
4:28 PM
@Sca
@ScarletAmaranth why ? :)
 
JBL
@tziuka No this is Lounge<C++--- wait, no, we only know Cocktails here.
 
... ok then. I thought someone knows.
have a nice day!:D
 
*knew
I thought someone knew
 
thanks.. my english is bad
 
@JerryCoffin lol
 
4:32 PM
> We have something that mostly works
hahah on UTF-8
 
Xeo
UUTF-8
 
Sunk in the Solent, May 14th, 1943.
 
@JerryCoffin I don't believe I expressed any surprise.
Someone has failed to build GCC trunk snapshot today because the process filled up a 12GB VM - is he doing it wrong, or is that normal?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit did they use -j or specify a parallelism like -j12
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't think you expressed it directly, but it seems implicit. Why read questions or answers at all if you don't expect them to be good enough to justify the time and effort of reading them?
 
4:45 PM
@doug65536 Dunno
@JerryCoffin I don't think "megalols" implies surprise. It implies only a reaction of laughing. And yes, per your point, when I'm laughing despite already deliberately being on , you know the post is bad ;)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Fair enough.
 
In general though you appear to be asserting that I ought to tar all posts on with the same brush, which seems to be a bit of a leap. For a start, the question itself is pretty good. It's just that answer which has one particularly fatal flaw
Anyway, yes, I lol'd
 
Ell
Why does a computer ever run out of memory? Can't the OS just use storage?
 
@Ell That seems to be the point: up to 12 GB of virtual memory was allowed, and it still ran out...
 
Ell
Yeah
I guess he could just allocate even more?
 
4:53 PM
@Ell He undoubtedly could. Question is whether it should be necessary, and if so, why.
 
user1804599
@Ell RAM full + swap full = boom.
 
user1804599
Some operating systems compress swap and unused RAM.
 
@Ell Sure, but now he has to start all over again. I'm asking whether something was wrong that needs fixing first.
 
Would anyone mind telling me how I can learn WinApi? That is - a resource/book/whatever that is not absolutely horrible?
 
msdn
 
4:58 PM
Hmmm, wasn't there someone that sometimes shows up here working at Bloomberg?
 
@melak47 srsly?
 
user1804599
Oh nice. I can create a Git branch from an issue in JIRA.
 
@melak47 Well, MSDN is mostly factually correct, but I'm not convinced that it's not in the 'not absolutely horrible' class.
 
Was it Dietmar?
 
Er.rr.. I'm having a boolean crisis with the nots.
 
4:59 PM
@MartinJames any suggestions?
 
@MartinJames isn't everything about winapi going to be in that class? :v
 
Inb4 I'm ok/decent with C++ but have no experience whatsoever with WinApi.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I just started writing stuff, then lots of debugging, then I could get a lot of it working.
@melak47 Pretty much, yes.
 
@MartinJames it's the 'lots of debugging' and guessing around I dislike.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Jus' don't.
 
5:02 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit no choice. Need to eat.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I'm not sure why you would want to learn WinApi anyway. If you need it, use it. If you don't...do it later :p
 
> I'm a senior developer in the financial industry
I'd say it's a good bet
 
@melak47 I need to solve stackoverflow.com/questions/21364178/… and have no idea why.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit to be clear: make -j without a paralellism argument is excessively parallel, it's unlimited. make -j4 means, keep 4 compilations going in parallel
 
5:04 PM
@doug65536 I have no idea what that entails
 
sorry for ding spam :)
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes This one's for you: "Satan: Leibhaftiger spioniert Online-Banking aus"
 
@doug65536 make -j on clang tree - better than forkbomb!
 
user3010322
Huh
 
user3010322
5:10 PM
This Ludia hiring process is a bit weird.
 
@ThePhD You finally decided to call them :p
 
13 hours ago, by Cat Plus Plus
@cpx The only thing you need to learn about WinAPI is that "learning WinAPI" is silly, mostly impossible goal
 
user3010322
@ALOToverflow What do you mean, Finally? D: The guy e-mailed me at 10:02 AM. I called him back at 10:13!
 
@ThePhD Didn't you said yesterday that it wasn't the first time they were calling you?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No, GCC doesn't need anywhere near that amount of RAM to build
 
user3010322
5:12 PM
@ALOToverflow Yes, but I had missed the call due to University Shenanigans
 
@ThePhD Right
How is it weird then
 
@TonyTheLion Meh, that uses a definition of UTF-8 that is at least a decade outdated. Amazing.
 
user3010322
In either case, I say the hiring process is a bit weird because usually when you pass the interview stage and they're ready to give you an offer, usually they just send that offer to you. In this case, they want like.... more information from me? They've said they're interested in giving me an internship, but no.... extra details.
 
I wanted to respond to something else but I forgot what
 
user3010322
vOv I'll give them the details and see what happens.
 
user3010322
5:14 PM
It's just different from how I've been hired at other places.
 
@Ell HDD is like 1000x slower than RAM, so when you hit swap, shit's basically unusable
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Shiiiit, you better tell him
 
They are all different
 
Can't comment on YouTube.
 
Swap exists to keep unused bits out of RAM, and as emergency backup
It is unusable as working memory
@R.MartinhoFernandes People are making shitty, unresearched videos on YouTube?!?!?
Dammit, food, arrive faster so I can go to sleep properly
 
5:22 PM
@TonyTheLion Computerphile videos are all watered down and oversimplified
 
@doug65536 I realize that
but there's a difference between watered down and plain outdated or wrong
 
@CatPlusPlus What would be more realistic?
 
Oh, I saw that.
Thanks.
 
You're welcome.
 
5:25 PM
@TonyTheLion I tried pushing for more advanced and accurate stuff in the comments of their first videos. I got a barrage of people commenting that it was too complex already. oh well
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit IME some 2GB would be enough.
 
@doug65536 I think those videos are meant for noobs
ie, not you
but more for people like me, who have no idea about computers
 
5:37 PM
Hi internet people!
 
Hi internet penguin
 
Hi internet cat and penguin
 
user3010322
Hi internet lion, cat, and penguin!
 
technically, I'm also a cat
just a large one
 
user3010322
Large and Wonderful. ♡
 
5:43 PM
 
Hmm, criterion can produce this manwe.flamingdangerzone.com:8000/bar.html. Want.
 
Sure could use a 2D drawing library!
 
Ell
Woo offer from york, AAA
 
It also has a flag to perform no measurements... WTF.
Just spin.
 
@ThePhD That also applies to my dick.
 
(Or at least that's what I'm told)
 
user1804599
I am so confused.
 
user1804599
error: The branch 'feature/load-markers' is not fully merged.
If you are sure you want to delete it, run 'git branch -D feature/load-markers'.
macbook :: ~/boo ‹develop› % git merge -
Already up-to-date.
 
> grokularation
 
I noticed :)
 
5:58 PM
Fully merged means merged both ways, not just in
 
Ell
I need to reinstall OS, but so much effort :( I'll have to recompile gcc and everything ugghhh wot do :(
 

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