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@DeadMG Terraria Update MP on Thursday?
well, we better finish getting all that Hardmode equipment before it hits, then
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Eh, I have all I need, really
worst case I just use my other char
But I actually thought about new chars, since the progression should change too
and I wanna do a ranged char
didn't realize the new update was gonna change progression
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Well, new biomes, enemies, etc
although ultimately, I feel that the jump from non-Hardmode to Hardmode was a bit steep
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19:04
I believe it would, anyways
Yeah, hardmode ups the difficulty quite a bit
non-HM gear is just so underpowered against those guys
and also that the melee stuff is definitely underpowered.
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makes it all the more satisfying to actually beat their face in, though
yea
I mean, it does nice damage, but it's too hard to get in enough hits with the bosses moving around like that
and the higher defence isn't enough to offset all the extra hits
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yeah, that
@EtiennedeMartel haha
19:05
it works nice against all the Hardmode enemies, I think
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Don't really know how you'd fix that without deviating from melee, though
but the bosses are another question
Outlook just reminded me for an event that occurred in October 2012. Fail
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@DeadMG The ability to freely pass through players and blocks makes a lot of difference
hmm
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19:07
I guess Destroyer would be doable as melee, though
it's less about that, I think
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With lance
or Dao of Pow
the reality is we fight them in an arena where essentially, we can pass through the arena too.
the issue is, they move so much faster, and can fly indefinitely
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mh
so it's hard to get up close to hit them
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19:07
grav pot solves the latter issue
grav pot would be nice if the controls didn't suck terribly
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and they can't fly as fast as you can fall up / down
besides, not being able to get close is only half the problem
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Well, you also got wings, and with an ice rod, you can also fly "indefinitely"
sucks getting the block up, though
What I also think is a problem with melee is their damage. It may be pretty high for a single hit, but that's it
with range or mage, you can hit them so many times in a short duration
hmm.
the rate of fire of the melee is a bit lower than the range or magic
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19:10
I think it's quite a lot lower
compare with harp or crystal storm
yeah
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or clockwork assault rifle, which is a low-end HM weapon
shotgun owns
actually, the laser rifle fires really fast too
too bad it never dropped
well
I've been thinking about dropping the star cannon, maybe get megashark.
star cannon is sweet but it's just so hard to find enough ammunition
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I got a megashark in my other world
I've been thinking about flamethrower
I heard that it's sick against Destroyer, but not much good against anything else
19:14
I hope that megashark thing is really an actual shark.
java has such a shitty String and Collections class :(
btw
@GamesBrainiac That's why there's stuff for strings and collections in Apache Commons.
how did you get up to the floating islands? they're way higher than I can go, even with wings, spectre boots, and cloud in a bottle
balloon in a bottle, I mean
grav pot?
@EtiennedeMartel I am forced to use only java's inbuilt libs :(
19:17
Well, well.
That's is idiotic.
Java's strength is the wide range of libraries available for it.
That's like saying "I have to use C without pointers".
@sbi: here is a link to some algorithms Alexander Terekhov posted to Usenet for implementing condvars on Win32. What you (almost certainly) want is his algorithm 8a. About all it requires of the underlying implementation is a working semaphore -- but as you'll quickly see, the implementation is decidedly non-trivial.
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@EtiennedeMartel It's a shark-formed rapid-fire cannon
@DeadMG ya
Just floated around the area where it changes from normal, light sky to dark, starry sky
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Man I love this piano piece scribd.com/mobile/doc/15591274/html5
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I flat sinus curve
@GamesBrainiac s/String and Collections class/everything/
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19:28
@DeadMG Cloud in a Balloon, you mean? :P
yep
The "no" answer gets all the votes - why such a negative attitude? stackoverflow.com/a/19059320/1690864
@JerryCoffin I don't get that. Where can I understand what you guys do with the slashes and stuff?
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sed
@GamesBrainiac Oh -- sorry. That's basically a command from ed (also usable in various follow-ons such as sed). s means "substitute", so it's s/pattern/replacement/. The 'pattern' can be a regex, but in this case is just a plain string. In any case, it finds 'pattern' and replaces it with 'replacement'.
19:36
@willj Because it's correct.
@JerryCoffin Ah, so what you just said was "replace string and collections classes with everything" ?
@DeadMG Maybe so, but that's no reason to give up
@willj Er, the fact that what he wants to do is impossible is an excellent reason to give up.
you have such a negative attitude ;)
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Or, if you're @ThePhD, try and make your own reflection lib
19:37
@GamesBrainiac yes -- so the result would be Java has such shitty everything.
@JerryCoffin lol
Yea, this sucks, cuz Python has such wonderful libraries and so does C#
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Hmm.
@JerryCoffin Thanks for taking the time to teach me. I really appreciate it.
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Can I do std::tuple<Readers&...> readers;?
@GamesBrainiac Surely -- although intended purely as a joke, being able to use sed (at least a limited degree) honestly is a fairly useful skill.
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19:40
@not-rightfold Why wouldn't you?
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Not sure. The syntax looks funny.
lol, a "pointy pwnhammer"
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I don't see how
@Xeo Perhaps because it looks vaguely similar to creating a container of references?
oh herro
ki gt 1 ordah the shitty chicken
its about to get weirder
@JerryCoffin Hmm, there seem to be some programs with this sort of functionality for windows
also
this is pretty darn cool
> via secure, distributed technology
They like to say that, don't they?
lol
arrite guys
its 2 am here
i g2g sleep
cya all
miss you <3
19:56
> just the right amount of wrong
@GamesBrainiac later.
hey
anyone seen the Breaking Bad finale yet?
I liked it, but I won't spoil it for others
yup
20:02
Yeah, not bad.
@TemplateRex Roughly 3/4ths of the Lounge, from the sound of things (and most of the other quarter begging "no spoilers please!")
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std::fill is neat. :3
@TemplateRex I'm apparently about the only one who doesn't give a shit.
@JerryCoffin begging "no spoilers please" ... and leaving.
@JerryCoffin it should be right in your age bracket
20:03
:/
@TemplateRex Could be -- I've never watched a single episode though. I never watched much TV, and since I got married, substantially less still.
@JerryCoffin I think you can watch it with your spouse
in the series, she has a quite an active role
@JerryCoffin I know you are expecting this, but Breaking Bad is the only TV show that you should really see at least once.
@TemplateRex My wife mostly watches Philippine TV shows.
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@JerryCoffin Nah, me neither.
20:05
@JerryCoffin well, I sympathize, my wife doesn't overlap in TV interests with me either
@Jefffrey Maybe when the whole thing is on Netflix (or Amazon Prime) I'll watch.
I've seen many other TV series, including, but not limited to: Lost, suits, the walking dead, homeland, skins, house, sons of anarchy, low rising sun, lie to me. BB is nothing like the rest.
@Jefffrey still, the Sopranos is my all time fave, I watched that about 5 times
Oh my Jerry. I just realized how much time I've spent watching TV series.
@TemplateRex Given how little TV interest me, lack of overlap is almost a given.
20:08
@JerryCoffin I think there is a difference between regular TV (news, sports, daytime blabla) and high-quality drama
I should go out and start living my life instead.
it's like comparing Shakespeare with tabloids
@Jefffrey I've watched some House and SoA episodes on Netflix, and part of one episode of Suits after a (paralegal) friend recommended it. Pretty sure I've never seen any of the others you mentioned at all.
@JerryCoffin the Wire?
@TemplateRex A couple years ago, my brother was watching it and I watched a couple episodes with him. Thought of looking for it, but for some reason never did. Now that you've reminded me, maybe I will.
20:12
@Jefffrey nah man, fuck yo life. TV series are better.
@JerryCoffin that's #2 on my list
@TemplateRex "Shiiieeetttt".
@Tuntuni :-)) Especially when watching sth like Suits, you need to have watched other series as well. "I always pay my debts"
@TemplateRex Heh :p I haven't watched it yet but I've seen it on youtube. I still can't believe he actually says that.
Well, doing a quick look, The Wire isn't on Netflix (for streaming, anyway) or Amazon Instant Video (Prime, anyway)...
20:15
WTF [NSFW] (reference)
@JerryCoffin it's on HBO
HBO don't stream anywhere else AFAIK
@TemplateRex Was on HBO, unless I'm badly mistaken.
@JerryCoffin yeah but if you have HBO, I think you can stream all past series as well
at least you can in the Netherlands
@Xeo Killed Destroyer with my Phsaesaber pretty easily. Now I have a Megashark.
Hey, did C++14 just lose both dynarray and optional? libcxx.llvm.org/cxx1y_status.html
20:18
@Cubbi Yes.
Why optional though? NBs were fine with it (except they wanted more rel ops)..
@Cubbi The rel ops were a large part of the issue.
guys, which blogging site is best for C++ code?
@TemplateRex Yeah, looks like you can here too. Doubt I'll do that though.
@JerryCoffin just watching the Sopranos + the Wire on HBO is already worth a few months of subscription, imo
20:22
@TemplateRex Probably not mine.
@TemplateRex I s'pose it could be -- but about the only time I watch at all is if I finish some work earlier than expected, so I have to sit a while to get rid of caffeine before I can sleep. Probably doesn't happen more than once every month or so at best.
@Cubbi Losing optional is kinda sad, but losing dynarray is fantastic.
@JerryCoffin wow, that sounds like a work-life imbalance, or do you also have a lot of family time that excludes hobbies?
@TemplateRex Yes, I have four children, so quite a bit of time is spent with them. I also spend a fair amount of time wondering around carrying a camera and taking pictures. TV is simply a very low priority for me. I'd guess it has something to do with the fact that my dad disliked TV enough that we never had one (at all) when I was (supposed to be) growing up, so I never formed it as a habit.
Hmmm, Breaking Bad.
20:29
@JerryCoffin kudos to you! I have only one toddler, with another on the way, so I guess spare time will be cut in half once more
@DeadMG Indeed. optional was available from boost since 2003, one would think everything there was to know about it was already sorted out.
@Cubbi It isn't. The Boost guys can pick a direction, but there's nothing saying that the Standard guys don't want a different direction.
Existing practice?
doesn't make it good practice.
...by that measure, VLA should be gone too
20:31
@DeadMG I think in this case, the notion was more than it was probably good practice, but maybe not quite good enough practice.
it absolutely should be gone.
and so should dynarray.
I'm dancing on their graves tonight.
thank God the Committee came to their senses
@JerryCoffin Also, a lot of the existing design was fucked, and people were bitching about consistency.
@DeadMG that's more like it! you have been quite mellow the last few days, are you getting your strength back?
IYAM consistency is only useful if you're being consistent with something that's done right.
@TemplateRex Dunno.
so what is the roadmap for C++14, two more comma-shifting meetings and then it's official?
or are there some more TS thingies to be worked out?
ultimately, the same as C++11- the Committee has taken a long time to decide that it doesn't really want to do very much considering the timespan involved.
20:37
so the parallel TS is something like a Boost with stricter reviews?
dunno
Is Herb really pushing this std::graphics thing?
apparently.
ultimately, after I found out that the Committee actually does a large fraction of it's work behind closed doors where normal people are not permitted to enter, I decided to fuck the Committee.
@Rapptz herb should have his priorites on pushing VC++ towards compliance
@DeadMG the whole committee, or only the pretty boys?
20:41
@DeadMG Not sure I'd get into a gang bang with the Standard's Committee.
feels like a whole new...
You might not be able to std::terminate that easily.
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Hmm.
@DeadMG nah, it's they who decided to fuck you. (you and all of us)
also fuck C++, deliver us Wide already.
20:44
working on it
ok
but frankly
considering that there's only one developer and he's very sick, it's no surprise that it's not the fastest dev cycle in the world
most of us are sick. mentally, at least.
^first thing i read
Sep 24 at 16:46, by not-rightfold
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wonderful world, duh
20:50
@Abyx Yep.
We're having loads of fun up in this bitch.
:D
I did not see C coming
Did you mean "I did not C it coming"?
that's because she didn't
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@DeadMG As I said, Destroyer is okay-ish since he is very predictable and it isn't an issue if you're close to him
contrast that with, say, Spazmatism
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20:53
gah that fox song is horrible!
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Also, watching Nichijou right now. Hakase and Nano are gold. /cc @StackedCrooked @Mysticial
but I got a Ruthless Megashark now
+17% damage
@Xeo I never really liked those kind of shows. K-On being a slight exception.
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I don't think I've seen anything quite like Nichijou yet
it's slice of life, but the show is just so random at times.
@Xeo does look like another Azumanga?
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20:55
Haven't watched / read Azumanga Daioh
@DeadMG this
@Xeo and this
tell me you're making this all up!
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No
Everyone is going completely bonkers
@sehe see?
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@EtiennedeMartel I never got to play Sonic 3 :(

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