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19:00
What? D: Come ooon I don't drink when I write code. D:
No you drink before it
Who's JamesMcNellis again?
Xeo
Xeo
Maybe there's the problem
@ThePhD He works at MS, so you should be able to look him up
@ThePhD VS developer.
19:00
welp I'm off to watch some Starcraft 2
@ThePhD then you should have gone to amazon ;)
catch you later @Ell
Ell
Ell
See you :) have fun
You watch Starcraft 2??!?
@TonyTheLion politics are a cruel mistress, WinDiv was asking for C99 since well 99
19:01
enlighten me, what exactly does one watch?
Ell
Ell
@deadmg my target grades are 4 As but that sure as hell isn't happening
but since the guy in charge of VC++ was on the C++ committee he didn't see the point
Ooh, i can chat with him later maybe!
my malloc joke is much more popular on twitter than here
Q:Does malloc() cleans up after himself afterwards? A:Yes, the memory is freed after your program crashes.
19:02
I retweeted your joke
@TonyTheLion I saw that. Thanks :)
Ell
Ell
anyway I'm running.out of battery, later folks :)
-_____- @kbok smh. also how many retweets/time so far. twitter is blocked ...... basically everything with the word 'social' is blocked
19:06
twitter does not have the word social in it.
@EiyrioüvonKauyf 10 retweets in like 10min. That's a lot for me :)
I'm going to make an anti-social network, where everyone insults each other. For lulz
With C++0x, destructors will be virtual if the object has any virtual functions (i.e. a vtable). — Macke Oct 15 '09 at 16:12
Is this true?
19:08
Man why nobody told me
That's a nice safety-net feature.
C++? Caring about safety?!
Its not happening automagically
you have to make dtors virtual
Oh.
That's not what the comment says..?
From what Macke said in that comment, it sounds like its automatic.
19:08
@BartekBanachewicz main(void)?
Shrug. Well, okay.
@Pawnguy7 what
@BartekBanachewicz in your gist
@ThePhD That's what I'm asking.
@Pawnguy7 it's there no doubt. And?
19:09
@Rapptz No its not automatic
I guess I'll check the standard
@Xeo Love Lab seems promising as well.
Love Lab
what is new if it's not automatic?
@TonyTheLion then what the fuck does it mean?
19:09
sounds like a place for me and @ScottW. <3
@BartekBanachewicz is that better than just main()? I have seen void main, but never main(void).
@BartekBanachewicz I don't fucking know, ask OP
@Pawnguy7 void main() is illegal, int main(void) is legal
@Pawnguy7 I suspect that would be a C thing
19:10
@Pawnguy7 main(void) is C only
@kbok it's still valid C++
@StackedCrooked I can't understand a word of that.
@BartekBanachewicz Only for compatibility purposes
@TonyTheLion Normally you have subs :)
I am going to guess this only works for main?
19:11
no
don't use it anyway
it's an old (bad) habit
Huh, never knew std::swap worked on arrays.
@BartekBanachewicz IOW as much valid C++ as char *p = reinterpret_cast<char*>(std::malloc(64));
That is why I was asking, as you had it :D
9 A destructor can be declared virtual (10.3) or pure virtual (10.4); if any objects of that class or any
derived class are created in the program, the destructor shall be defined. If a class has a base class with a
virtual destructor, its destructor (whether user- or implicitly-declared) is virtual.
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Q: Reimplementing std::swap, should I use const for tmp variable?

osgxI working on reimplementing some methods from C++ STL library. And there is a question about generic swap implementation: Should I use const modifier for the temporary variable or not? There is my variant: template<typename T> void swap(T& a, T& b) { const T tmp = a; a = b; b = tmp; }

19:12
Anyway, I don't see much that is different, besides your splitting up into a drawBlock further - which, I can do. Not sure what else though.
I found that.. though that's not really it.
@Rapptz ah I see.
@Rapptz So its automatic cool :)
except for the base class which more or less sucks
@Borgleader no you misread it
@Pawnguy7 In C, void myfunc() is a function returning void taking unspecified arguments. You could pass whatever you wanted! To specify "no argument", you had to type void myfunc(void). C++ removed this madness so the two are equivalent, even though the empty form void myfunc() makes much more sense.
@TonyTheLion Are you sure I can stay with you Friday night?
@BartekBanachewicz Oh, right, nvm
GitHub blame is super cool
You won't be too tired or anything?
too bad it doesn't scale too full screen width :/
19:14
@BartekBanachewicz this makes me concerned
@EiyrioüvonKauyf ?
@BartekBanachewicz it doesn't? .. use git blame then
no need, I already find that I am to blame for that awful test :D
@ThePhD Why not? I'm quite happy to help someone out, and I live alone, so no one is really going to object.
so shame on me anyway.
19:16
@ThePhD take the rape whistle
@ThePhD no. I won't be too tired.
I'll be glad to have someone to talk to IRL for once
I'm a nice person, ask @BartekBanachewicz he'll testify. Or ask @R.MartinhoFernandes, who's met me IRL
@ThePhD It's Tony the Lion, not Tony the Sloth
also this ^
@TonyTheLion you're my favorite lion no doubt
Though most of the time it's Tony The 16x16 Picture of a Lion
19:18
@BartekBanachewicz :)
ok time to grind these tests
Hell, I ask about how to build a smart machine and controll by my program
plop_xyz has to go! /cc @kbok
@BartekBanachewicz Sure.
@kbok I was starting to get attached to it ^^'
19:19
@TonyTheLion You got to see @BartekBanachewicz in person? :O
what is field called? plz
@ThePhD No, on Skype we talked a few times
@MuadhProgrammer what is field called? whut
what language is @MuadhProgrammer speaking
@MuadhProgrammer What are you smoking?
19:20
@MuadhProgrammer this is field: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_(mathematics)
I ask about how to build a smart machine and controll by my program
@ThePhD depends if videocam counts as "in person" for you
@BartekBanachewicz Not... really I guess?
oh his profile is in arabic ... this isn't going to work well
@MuadhProgrammer you can't
@kbok I know, I just don't want to impose too greatly.
19:21
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Why ?
@ThePhD imposter
@MuadhProgrammer no
Some questions. The only description is in the title, and the body is over 200 lines of code... and it wasn't indented.
@ThePhD Its not a problem, I would never suggest it if I considered it a problem.
@MuadhProgrammer You want to build a robot?
19:22
Though I'm pretty bad for conversation.... I mean, I've got stories. I've got a lot of stories. But they're really depressing stories, which isn't the best conversation material. Dx
@MuadhProgrammer there is no such thing as a 'smart machine'
@kbok this is a lost cause
@ThePhD :D
If all else fails, VIDEO GAMES!
@ThePhD Any stories are better than none
@ThePhD I have a nice large TV here, and Xbox, we can do that if all else fails
@kbok No I want to build simple machine and can controll by computer
19:23
@MuadhProgrammer Look up LEGO Mindstorms. They're very powerful
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@MuadhProgrammer Go buy some parts, build machine and make it do stuff. Look into FPGA's for chips you can control
Does anybody know the origin of the analog literals?
@TonyTheLion no no please don't do this; he needs to learn english first, seriously. tech is written in english since french got deprecated as the language of anything science, if it ever had a use that is
Whoever starred that, I'm serious, Mindstorms are awesome
19:27
@kbok People have built the craziest things out of those.
the problem is how to get the hardware components
@kbok I never got a chance to toy with them, but I believe you..
@MuadhProgrammer order online?
@kbok I have mixed feelings TBH
@TonyTheLion dude his country says Iraq; i'm not doing this sorry; esp. from my government-contractor computer
Without additional paid Robo-C they are useless. And even with it it's kinda... meh. Raspberry Pi is cheaper and funkier.
19:27
@TonyTheLion can get me a link please
By the way @ThePhD if you plan on going to Paris we can grab a drink/I can show you around
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Surely Amazon Iraq exists
@MuadhProgrammer Erm, Google it?
I'm not your slave
@TonyTheLion I heard it's very hard to get things shipped there
i wonder why
19:29
probably because its a war zone
@TonyTheLion even getting a hackerspace up there has been a colossal effort. that this guy is trying education is admirable but unlikely imho
I wouldn't know
I haven't been there and it isn't exactly in my list of holiday destinations
@TonyTheLion Ok , But if you can help , I need a link if you are know that , thanks
I had an epiphany
PLONK
@kbok I can't make it to Paris just yet. =[
Guys I'm still a poor intern q_q
19:33
you get paid something no?
@ThePhD gtfo i'm a poor-er intern
It's a paid internship, but it's not enough to bankroll cross-world trips.
lol that's like 2k right there
@ThePhD I can understand that.
19:34
@kbok wat you take visitors?
I still haven't paid off my student loan and meetingcpp isn't helping either
@kbok hmm do you know if INRIA takes interns? :3
Would you like some fries with your code? — Caesar 2 mins ago
@EiyrioüvonKauyf They usually do, yes
@kbok D'oh. School loans. >_< How deep are they?
19:35
@kbok not phd's: undergrads
@TonyTheLion any link for a company that prodect the hardware I need plz
@Rapptz yes!
@MuadhProgrammer lego.com
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Undergrads, yes. Usually at +4 and +5
@ThePhD Not much, ~5k left. Still annoying though
@kbok 5K Euros, so like 6/7K USD?
19:36
Loans scare me
6569.00 Ho lee Fuk
@ThePhD Yeah.
I'd like to take some money aside to move to the US so that I can earn that indecent pile of cash I deserve
if I ever make an indecent enough pile of cash I'd like to use it to make more vidya games
19:38
@kbok what's +4 and +5?
My life plan is to "retire" as soon as I can, that is, work on things that I want to
@kbok NIH! I've always associated that "with prick licensing", but ironically, that's not really the excuse with Java, right. I think .NET community copied (or rather "cloned"/"stole") the whole opensource momentum from the Java community
@EiyrioüvonKauyf After graduating from high school. It's called baccalauréat here.
Thanks to M. Bonaparte :) We have a normalized system of graduations so people usually just count the number of years you have done after you went out of high school
@kbok ... why +4 and +5 ??? why not +1 o-o
@kbok Google takes +1 ....
damn
with polymorphic lambdas Boost.MPL would be much better
19:41
If you're going for the CTI master's degree you must do an intership in the summers of the third, fourth and fifth year
@kbok ... uhm so in the US degrees take 4 years and depending how motivated you are you can intern all of the summers.. 5th year can be a masters depending how good - most people take 2 or more years afaik
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Because people in +1 and +2 usually don't have the skills required, and often don't have time for an internship (their holidays are two months AFAIR)
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Engineering master's degrees have dedicated time for internships so you can get between 5 months and 8 months. It's more of a contract job.
Well, it depends of the intern because for some people it's really really still an internship :(
@kbok ehhh again do they entertain interviews though
skills not years
if they base it on how many years you've worked; i'm never going to France
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Not work, study
Obviously they're more interested in people who are almost finished with their masters than people who just got out of HS
@kbok uhm you're not understanding. i'm saying skill > years studied?
19:47
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Well, if you can prove it..
@kbok that's what i'm asking: do they let you prove it lol
dropbox/microsoft/etc entertain interviews
._. where did everyone go ???
Error 5 error C2892: local class shall not have member templates
FOR FUCKS SAKE
@EiyrioüvonKauyf They do, but there's some limits, notably regarding legislation, to what kind of interns you can take in
@kbok what do you mean?
19:49
All you have to know @EiyrioüvonKauyf is that when you go to apply for bigger companies, there's always 2 phases: the HR stage and the Programmer stage.
^ I already have gotten there; it's annoying
how the fuck am I supposed to do that now :/
Your work first hits teh desk of an HR person. They look for the regular buzzwords in your application and see if you fit the job description to a reasonabel degree.
@BartekBanachewicz enter phoenix!
Then, they pass it to the programmer. Programmers usually look for skills, maybe for additional higher-ed.
19:49
@EiyrioüvonKauyf In France interns get special fiscal status that are negociable only when in the context of completing your master's degree
@sehe yes! That's what I need
Boost Phoenix basically allows you to write polymorphic lambdas using expression template syntax.
I know what it allows, I just didn't find it useful.. until now
Which let them, for instance, pay under the minimal wage, or be exempt for taxes
Let's go hunt for dragons then.
19:51
The only downfalls are function invocation (which looks bad unless wrapped/adapted to phx::function<>) and ... I don't remember my other pet peeve
OTOH they have to prove that you are required by your uni cursus to attend an internship
@BartekBanachewicz If you show me the invocation (lambda) you are trying to do, I might be able to help
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Hence an unemployed person - or a maths student thereof - can't apply for an IT internship
@kbok ???? why .. why is this "required" ......*cough* this is bs
19:53
@EiyrioüvonKauyf control!
@EiyrioüvonKauyf I just explained that
^ yes i mean why ...... why does it need to be required by your uni in order for them to let you do it. can you just do it without the status?
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Because internships compensation are free from taxes and many forms of regulations
^ ... as an international student what happens
lynching.
sorry man.
19:54
As long as you're enrolled in a local uni it takes care of it for you
@sehe some explanation: it's inside Catch test case. I basically want to check if all these functions will compile (I am testing if our register_function is really comprehensive). It would work, but "error C2892: local class shall not have member templates", so I'd have to move the structs outside, which is getting ugly.
Otherwise... I hope you want to work for a big company.
@kbok They're nicer than the us
@BartekBanachewicz wokay. anyways, later (I'm busy handling a Spirit problem on the user list)
@kbok i'm assuming INRIA isn't big? ...
@Chemistpp you mean the uni is nicer?
19:56
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Seriously, those laws are there to help you
^ they're not helping me
@sehe I'll try to read basics of Phoenix in the meantime. See you around.
they're preventing me from getting an internship in france atm
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Just US visa crap sucks.
i think it's easier to get one in Shanghai atm
19:56
Before all this shit was regulated some people could work for up to two years without getting paid in the hopes of getting a job afterwards
@kbok brutal
@Chemistpp Yeah, that's why I don't really think "this is bs" like he said :/
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Where are you from?
I don't know that I would work 2 years for a job without getting paid even if i was guaranteed a position afterwards.
@kbok US. my pay is guaranteed by a contract ....
@kbok also i have worked unpaid internships before

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