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3:00 PM
@ElimGarak what is it that you're smoking again?
 
You ok there buddy?
 
Courtney Goeltzenleuchter (that's an actual name) has an acute ability to communicate with customers, managers and engineers at many different levels makes him a natural leader within our high specialized team of 3D Driver experts.
(lunarg.com/about) an acute ability to communicate, Our CoFounders infused this in our corporate DNA from the beginning and brought together a team of Industry Leading 3D Driver Experts.
 
Courtney's a guy?
 
Britney Goeltzenleuchter
 
Apparently. COURTNEY GOELTZENLEUCHTER. There are websites where he can't input his whole name. His credit cards overflow the name on the other side.
 
user1804599
3:02 PM
I'm so bored.
 
@elyse Invent a boredom reliefer.
 
manager
 
port a language runtime to kernel-mode
 
Of course they're managers, who else could write such grandiose, nonsense claims? :D
 
Why are you mocking these poor guys?
 
3:04 PM
Because the buzzword boilerplate is strong with them. :c And I am jealous of their ability to acutely communicate with customers and managers about a grounded industry perspective of experience. Or something like that.
 
where to I apply to this driving school
 
@Cauterite botany.com
 
pretty pluto picture (warning, 67MB PNG): nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/…
 
user3790646
@melak47 that damn thing is heavy as hell
 
3:10 PM
Wasn't pluto supposed to be a non-planet due to the fact that it was composed only by gas?
 
i like how it has '/thumbnails/' in the URL
 
@melak47 Onebox it <3
 
user3790646
no, it's because it's small and far far away from the Sun
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ what? that'd make it a gas...midget?
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ It's a non-planet because it has achieved hydrostatic equilibrium and hasn't cleared the rest of the mini dwarves around it.
 
3:11 PM
for you <3
 
damn, firefox won't even render it for me
 
@Cauterite heh, didn't notice that
 
that must be the biggest blood-stain in the galaxy
 
So it is a dwarf planet forever more.
 
dwarf planet with a lot of heart :p
 
3:14 PM
It sure looks weird
 
Ell
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ also /r/programming
and /r/vulkan
and /r/unixporn
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ It's a non-planet because there's a bunch of other bodies sharing the same space that don't orbit it.
like Ceres
 
That beer is decent
 
ok well Ceres isn't actually in the same area as Pluto.
 
Ell
yah for it to be a planet it needs to have cleared it's neighbourhood or some sheeit
 
3:17 PM
but there's plenty that are
ah Eris
 
@Ell Yes, that and achieved hydrostatic equilibrium (needs to do that to be qualified for planet status, near spheroid).
 
exqueeze me for getting Eris and Ceres confused
 
> In the end stages of planet formation, a planet will have "cleared the neighbourhood" of its own orbital zone (see below), meaning it has become gravitationally dominant, and there are no other bodies of comparable size other than its own satellites or those otherwise under its gravitational influence. A large body which meets the other criteria for a planet but has not cleared its neighbourhood is classified as a dwarf planet.
Interesting
 
Ell
but to me it seems like an imprecise definition
 
especially without knowing what "orbital zone" is defined as
 
@Borgleader Yeah, the voice actor strike.
It is all well specified. The more contentious aspect was the hydrostatic equilibrium status, the point where the pressure gradient (force upward) and gravity are balanced. But roundness is a really questionable aspect as it is difficult to pointpoint it. No planets are even spheroids, mostly are just "near spheroids" where near is left quite unqualified.
 
user1804599
(let sub (compose swap neg add))
 
Considering the uncleared neighborhood and its size, it's pretty much a dwarfie. Pluto's moons, on the other hand, are quite irregular during their forming due to lack of "input mass" during its forming.
 
Ell
too many cooks
 
3:29 PM
too many cooks?
 
Ell
too many cooks
too many cooks
 
Hey, what's up with the custom title font?
 
Ell
Yeah it's cool innit?
 
@ElimGarak what custom font
 
Ell
you haven't seen too many cooks before?
 
user3790646
3:31 PM
@melak47 yeah what custom font
 
Ell
Oh man it's awesome
 
@melak47 Title video
 
Ell
look at video title
below video
 
user3790646
@Ell that's Cicada boy
 
Ell
wat?
 
user3790646
3:35 PM
@Ell don't ya know what's cicada, boy?
 
Ell
cicada has a boy? :V
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva People talkin' shit here.
 
I must say that I plonked cicada long ago
 
During which namesake? Cicada / Suspicious Tina? / Longdong / Anastasiya
 
Bluh.
Tired.
 
3:39 PM
What you been up to?
 
Daily invocations: Fuck OpenGL, fuck it in the mouth, fuck OpenGL, fuck it right up the butt.
Etc. etc. Wide is great etc. C++ etc. Goddamnit VC++ ICE etc. VS crashed etc. etc.
 
> I want to date a Rita just so I can refer to her as, Lovely Rita. Unfortunately I've never met a Rita under the age of 60, so.
 
Ell
I have my first C assignment
 
@ElimGarak Installing pygame.
Because I'm going to make a little game in Python today.
I hope.
 
@StackedCrooked "Rita" is a slangish verb here, it is used to describe a chicken's movement after you chop off its head.
 
3:42 PM
It's close to what I had in mind.
 
Man, a week without Telkitty.
 
user406009
Telkitty wasn't so bad.
 
user406009
She had interesting things to say.
 
.-.
 
Don't make me come over there...
 
3:43 PM
@ElimGarak Life is so good right now.
 
Buy you a beer and tell you all about Telkitty.
Seriously, there hasn't been a single memorable incident this whole week.
 
@ElimGarak weird right? :p
 
Maybe, just maybe .. she'll ..forget about this room.
 
oh, reminds me I haven't yet finished a DS9 episode
 
@JonClements Which one?
Oh, she'll be back. I seriously wouldn't be surprised if she were reading this as we speak write.
 
3:47 PM
@ElimGarak err, the one where Nog comes back after losing his leg?
 
Ell
boy C sucks
I wish we could use c++
 
user406009
Why are you guys using C?
 
user406009
Embedded and a lack of compiler support?
 
@ElimGarak "It's Only a Paper Moon" - S7E10
 
Yup, two episodes after the Siege of AR-558. When he goes to hide in the holosuite due to PTSD. I've watched all 7 seasons of DS9 at least 10 times over and over. Same goes for Voy, TNG, Enterprise (4 seasons).
 
3:50 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Do it do it do it do it do it do it do it!
I'd come support you but I'm not sure how that would work. :D
 
@ElimGarak What would you know - you're just a tailor, right? ;p
 
Plain, simple Garak. At your service. :P
 
Master Tailor
 
@ElimGarak All of them.
 
Also, right hand & son of Enabran Tain, the head of the fallen Obsidian Order. And a true son of Cardassia. Now, let's go enslave Bajorans again. I call dibs on Major Kira.
 
Daft Punk <3
 
@ElimGarak Isn't she Commander Kira now?
 
I'm going through a short period of addiction.
 
@Puppy Colonel Kira, actually. Later on.
She's part of the Bajoran Militia, they have mirroring ranks similar to the US army. Starfleet takes after the US Navy in a big way.
 
didn't she join Starfleet?
 
3:56 PM
Inheritance is ruining my design.
 
@Puppy Only temporarily commissioned during the last 7 episodes as a commander (mirroring rank) to not upset the Cardassians. Afterwards, she returns to Bajoran Militia.
The show ends without Bajor joining the Federation in the end, where the Bajor Militia would be incorporated with Starfleet.
 
Hi everybody. Anybody here has any experience using cairo for printing on windows?
 
no.
 
pity...
 
not really.
 
3:59 PM
Or maybe just printing on windows? :)
:)
 
also no.
 
user3790646
Ignore Puppy, he's just like.. our puppy.
 
@Puppy also not a pity?
 
you got that right.
 
Odo and Kira many lears later. She's still hot, Odo got old (well, was old but makeup).
 
4:00 PM
oh hey by the way
the final episode of Dark Matter
 
@ElimGarak What’s up with the spoilers?
 
am I the only one who thought that GA ship was the one stolen by Six and his buddies?
 
dammit! I expected it from elyse, not columbo!
 
dammit columbo
 
Ell
fuck C doesn't have bool :3
 
4:01 PM
@Ell It does, and also look for<stdbool.h>
 
@LucDanton Well, we're nearing the 20 year anniversary of its ending. :P
 
@Ell so confused by your use of catface.
 
user406009
@ElimGarak I believe you claimed there might be a way to play around with DX 12 on my DX 11 hardware?
 
Ell
I need to not ask for help in here else I'll be expelled for plagiarism
 
user406009
Do you have a link or a googable name?
 
4:02 PM
@Lalaland 50-60% of all current hardware is compatible with DX12 on Windows 10. According to Steam survey, it is 49%.
 
@ElimGarak Yeah or use a room, it’s what one click
 
user406009
@ElimGarak HD 4000 is the issue.
 
user406009
Steam is a hella biased sample.
 
Yup, wouldn't take it as representative.
 
@LucDanton First he'd have to know that there's somebody who would actually be spoiled by it
 
4:04 PM
@LucDanton Ah, but Bajor not joining the Federation is not too big of a spoiler either.
It's all about the wormhole and the Dominion, when DS9 got traction. Pretty much when Sisko got a beard and got bald.
 
user406009
 
user406009
:(
 
you didn't seriously expect an Intel Integrated GPU to be that great, did you?
 
@Lalaland That's not part of the Haswell architecture. On the Haswell architecture, integrated Intel hardware supports DirectX 12 low-level shenanigans, but its feature set is still 11_0 (with the exception of ROVs, which are available)
@Puppy I think one of the directors of the show mentioned in an interview, or alluded to, that Six was a GA agent who was undercover and failed to protect the station (which got blown up). To give him a chance to fix his mistakes and use his new rep as a bin Laden of the future, they placed him on that ship.
 
@Ell BOOL :D
 
4:08 PM
And then they found about him and intended to kill him, which the little girl found out. And wiped their memories.
 
@ElimGarak I guess that having One be the target of the kill order was too obvious
 
Ell
@ElimGarak windows 10 is the issue imho
 
user406009
@Puppy Things actually work fine once you turn the graphics settings down to low.
 
@Ell Windows 10 is heavily linked with WDDM 2.0, which Microsoft is reluctant to bring to other platforms. and WDDM 2.0 is necessary for efficient DX12.
 
user406009
The issue is getting even minimal support for DX 12, regardless of speed.
 
4:10 PM
@Lalaland what's the issue? don't see any DX12 only titles anytime soon
 
I kinda hope for a second season because I want the japanese samurai dude story to continue. And see how they get out of GA's custody. Maybe because Six changes his mind because he started to like them or something.
 
he's not japanese! he's...I forgot what the name of his planet and empire are
 
Yeah, of course, but slang. :D
 
@ElimGarak There is a second season. It was commissioned about two days after the finale.
 
Oh, thank fuck!
 
4:11 PM
but
 
Fuck thank.
 
There's always a but... ahah
 
I think it says something that so far, none of the six people on the crew have really turned out to be who they were supposed to be.
Six and Four innocent of the crimes they supposedly committed, One isn't even that dude, and Five's just some girl, more or less.
 
It's a pretty fun show, I hope it continues for a while. I like seeing a new episode pop up.
 
@Puppy That’s not how spoilers work.
 
4:12 PM
it's not really clear what the fuck is going on with Two or Three.
 
Yeah, Also Rodney McKay and Wesley Crusher's creepy uncle. Ahahah
 
@LucDanton It is after 20 years. You can't eternally go through life discussing everything in another room just because there might happen to be somebody who is in the middle of a 20-year-old show.
@ElimGarak Gotta admit that I'm not really sure how I'm feeling about Calchek. He seems oddly antagonistic, where all the jobs he gives them are him trying to screw the crew over
 
I would kinda like to learn more about those corporations and the details of that megacorp society they're all apart. We only get little pieces.
 
hmm
I don't necessarily feel like the megacorps are that powerful
in the first ep Ferrous had to disguise what they were doing by hiring the Raza, presumably because the GA would kick their asses if they found out.
so it doesn't seem to me inherently that the corps are ruling the roost
 
Yeah, GA really took the ship with immense force. I think that was an intentional reference to all the secretive mischief of the corps. There were so many officers, they basically blocked each other's line of fire.
 
4:17 PM
yep
 
I think I'm writing a monad but will never know cos I will never learn what a monad is.
 
not just that, but swarming into every room simultaneously
 
But there was no real references to who the Galactic Authority responds to. What is the actual government? Has there been any reference to Earth or is it a separate universe?
 
seems to me that they still have to pretend to be good citizens because the GA can stomp them, but the GA is not that effective at finding out about under the hood shenanigans
 
Just saying hi.
 
Really? It got second season?
 
YES!
 
It was mediocre at best
 
@ElimGarak I've not noticed any, except there is a reference to a territorial dispute in armed conflict, which the GA declined to intervene in, and we know the Ishida folks have their own empire
so it seems to me that the GA might be more like the UN than a real government
 
Android is p much the only saving grace
 
4:20 PM
@CatPlusPlus Cat, sometimes I even wonder if your own fapping pleases you.
 
there's definitely some devolution going on
 
That was when they got the sex bot and she got jealous, I think.
 
best is Wendy kicking everybody's ass, especially when Three is delaying her
and she's complaining about her treatment and dunking the cosmic donut
 
@ElimGarak The finale was one big fapping session for the writers
 
4:22 PM
I dunno
I liked the finale but it ran on a bit.
and there wasn't really enough evidence for the viewer to even take a shot before hand
 
> over Twooooooooooooo Thousand man
Lost it.
 
I went into the show expecting utter shit. It wasn't, so I was pleasantly surprised.
 
oh hey
that's a direct reference to Earth.
 
Everyone was acting ridiculous and the "cliffhanger" was funny but not on the level they wanted it to be
 
"Australian".
if there was no Earth or it was on another dimension then how would they know what Australia is or what people from there sound like?
 
4:25 PM
Yup, and Jamaican. But it could also be a writer mistake :D
@CatPlusPlus Is there a show you like?
 
personally I suspect that it's simply not referenced more often because it's just not that important anymore with a whole galaxy of planets
 
@ElimGarak Yes
 
Which one, you damn feline :P
 
bill and ben the flowerpot men
 
> I woke up this morning and my neck was broken. What do I do?
 
4:26 PM
@CatPlusPlus Is she hitting on him or what?
 
@wilx Nah, the crew got a service/sex bot and she got jealous because the other one was kinda hot and did all sorts of things, preparing food and stuff. So she wanted to prove that she can do other stuff too.
 
@ElimGarak I see.
 
I've seen some eps of House of Cards and it's p good
 
House of Cards is a great show. That's all I can say without Luc Danton coming at us with a pitchfork :P
 
@CatPlusPlus House of Cards is REALLY good!
 
4:29 PM
Also catching up on Archer
 
I haven't watched Archer. Is it good?
 
Is it something you watch from the beginning?
 
Also Rick and Morty
 
4:30 PM
Or can you drop into it?
 
From the main title, you know it is good.
 
Why would you not watch from the beginning
 
I have an overwhelming desire to visit D.C. because of HoC.
 
Binged through entire two seasons of Steven Universe in like 3 days too
I really don't have any hopes for Dark Matter s2 though
 
4:34 PM
Bring back SGU instead
 
Ahahah, SGU :P
 
At least it had less annoying characters
 
I want to see whether the fat kid fit into the stasis pod.
 
Dark Matter might get better if One dies and Four becomes less of a walking stereotype
 
Yeah, One can die.
 
user1804599
4:36 PM
HOW TO SUCK COCK
7
 
I swear everything he does is either stupid or annoying or both
 
@elyse With mouth I guess.
 
user1804599
:3
 
@ElimGarak I like him.
 
@Puppy He kinda whines a lot, tho?
 
4:38 PM
@ElimGarak He's usually correct.
 
Well, he porked Two, he can't be all bad. I have a problem that One is not really One. Not his body, etc. So an actor change inbound.
 
I kinda feel like One balances out the crew, since Two, Three and Four are all psychopaths.
 
She instigated the plot to kill Six, I think.
also, the real One is still out there. (Whatever the "real" name is attached to the body)
 
stable_partition_position is wicked awesome.
Why doesn't the STL come with algorithms like these.
 
4:48 PM
@ElimGarak They do
 
@Borgleader I'd like to drop that woman out of an airplane without a parachute. And then those two hosts. And then everyone behind that show.
 
@ElimGarak That's moderately badass
 
Of course. I, Elim Garak, am the true badass.
Tailors usually have high security clearances. We share them on conferences regarding hemming pants.
 
5:06 PM
@ElimGarak Pfffft. And nobody gets suspicious?
 
@Nooble link? surprised someone would even bother going through that much effort
AFAIK they're not discrete units; they're built into the case and PCB so that would probably require some custom design work
also dealing with PFU or Topre is a pain in the ass. the folks who answer inquiries were asking me if i had 30+ years in the keyboard industry or ignored me outright
 
@ElimGarak zzz
 
"Those Loungers would never pull the same thing twice" - Joker, Mass Effect
 
unfortunately that shit is pulled several times a day.
and it wasn't funny the first time
personally I think that if you're going to try such stupid shit you should at least try to be original
 
5:21 PM
enough of Rebecca Black, let's bring back goatse
 
you’re supposed to do it on a Friday, you completely missed the point
 
I am bad at pranks. :c
 
it's not a prank, it's just stupid, and just as bad on a Friday as any other day.
 
@ʞɔᴉN Check out the Cooler Master Switch Tester.
Notice the "purple" switch.
"Smooth & Tactile"
 
5:27 PM
Hmm. Guide::not_null<T *> can be initialized from T const & but not T &.
 
Nick you're in denial because you're sad that I won't have to spend $35K to feel a Topre keyboard.
 
zzz too tired to think – probably some obvious reason.
 
@LeviMorrison who cares you can go from T& to Tconst&
 
try not help vampiring from time to time
 
user1804599
@ʞɔᴉN don't onebox goatse
 
5:32 PM
obfuscated links are OK though
 
@Nooble check out waf
 
@набиячлевэлиь What is this.
 
I might or might not have made a wscript for Gaem
And by that I mean I totally have
@Nooble The greatest build system of all time, click the link
 
Seemaik is the sweet, sweet nectar of Bjarne.
@набиячлевэлиь I did.
And it was to vague.
 
> Waf is a Python-based framework for configuring, compiling and installing applications
 
5:36 PM
Why not just use Ninja.
 
That ain't vague
 
ninja's neato
 
Ninja is not a build system, it's a build system implementation.
3
 
@набиячлевэлиь That could mean a lot of things.
 
@Nooble Because one does not write ninja files by hand
You autogenerate them with CMake or Python
@Nooble Just... Look at it
 
5:38 PM
Was make too mainstream for you.
 
ugh make
 
No, it wasn't
 
@Puppy Oh.
 
I broke my sleep record :D
 
Ninja is no more a build system than LLVM is a compiler.
 
5:39 PM
17 hours ftw
 
GNU Make is still good for building with shell-only and for executing commands, that don't really build
 
@AlexM. Wow.
 
@AlexM. What'd ya' smoke?
> it is designed to have its input files generated by a higher-level build system
 
Use CMake.
 
> But fundamentally, make has a lot of features: suffix rules, functions, built-in rules that e.g. search for RCS files when building source.
> In contrast, Ninja has almost no features; just those necessary to get builds correct while punting most complexity to generation of the ninja input files. Ninja by itself is unlikely to be useful for most projects.
@Nooble NO!
waf has pretty, colorful output, too
So it's a win-win: not using CMake and pretty output
 
5:43 PM
Hi! Is the following possible in c?
something = x < y;
I want something to have a value of 0 or 1.
 
@Tigris try it and c
c what i did there?
 
long time no c
ITT c puns
 
Yeah.. sure.
I'm not near a compiler, so what do you suggest please? Is that line correct?
Or should I do: "something = (x < y) ? 1 : 0" insted?
 
@Tigris there's online compilers
 
5:45 PM
youre always near a compiler
 
ty
 
wtf, I just clicked an image and it loaded in B&W at a low res, then it loaded the other color channels, and the next few passes were just increasing pixel density
my mind has been blown
 
That's nice
@ʞɔᴉN link pls
 
for maximum enjoyment, ensure you are on a shit internet connection
 
Loads instantaneously for me
 
5:50 PM
ugh
 
How do I slow my internet down?
(said nobody, never)
 
pretty sure chrome has throttling options in the developer menu but I'm not sure if it'll affect the page load
 
progressive jpg?
 
is that what it's called?
 
5:52 PM
at least the pixel density thing.
 
> A progressive JPEG is the JPEG equivalent of the interlaced GIF Graphics Interchange Format . It's an image created using the JPEG suite of compression algorithms that will "fade in" in successive waves of lines until the entire image has completely arrived.
 
i clicked another image in the album and it loaded the traditional way (line by line at max res)
hm that's interesting
 
Looks like it
Very neat
 
does it increase the overall file size by much?
 
it's basically like mipmapping, so I think it shouldn't occupy more than 1/4 to 1/3 extra space
 
5:53 PM
that's not bad
 
seems like a great application for this would be fullscreen background images on websites
 
/cc @Nooble
> The baseline vs. progressive trendline is the same: images 10K or bigger are better optimized when using progressive encoding
 
so basically everything except for really tiny thumbnails or small UI components
meh, jpg for UI is garbage anyways
 
5:58 PM
On CppCon MS announced that VC++2015 Update1 will have modules.
 
gg
 

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