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@Nooble what is this?
@StackedCrooked Ask @ʞɔᴉN.
Don't tell me what to do!
Yeah nooble you're literally 14
@ʞɔᴉN No, he's not
@набиячлевэлиь
aha, just won that argument before it even started
00:07
@ʞɔᴉN He's half a year older than me
and nooble's not here to testify because he's having dinner
Aug 9 at 14:38, by Nooble
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Good thing I am 15. Oh I feel so entitled.
@ʞɔᴉN I have it in the logs
Nov 3 '14 at 23:33, by Nooble
I think I can get a permit in 2 years, when I am 16.
16-2 is 14, kids can't even do math these days
Ell
Ell
ah my back
May 22 at 20:10, by nick
im 12 yrs old and wat is this
00:13
14+2=16 |-1
14+1=15
I see you are trying some weak form of logic called "math" or something
well it won't work.
@Ell do some deadlifts or something
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@Nooble I fixed it puu.sh/kpotX/5882518ae5.png
Ell
Ell
@ʞɔᴉN I just need to sit proper
00:15
Same lol, yesterday my back and neck ached so much because of my terrible posture
and I pretty much sat in the same chair all day
i inspired myself to start lifting again
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@ʞɔᴉN How are you, mah friendo nico?
inb4 plonk for bad language
excellently as always
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That's good! :D
Ell
Ell
00:20
@ʞɔᴉN Idk if I can afford gym
but I do want to lift
user3790646
In Brazil we have a public gym
lift functions(?) instead
or was it types
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That's why we are thinner than most good and friendly americans
Ell
Ell
@Andrey nah that's bcos american diet is bad
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@Ell I know right
00:23
@Nooble What's the Open Dynamics Engine?
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@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I think that stands for ODE
A physics engine
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D:
@Ell my Gold's gym membership is $15/month + some weird annual fee so it works out to ~$21/month, which I think is still very reasonable
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@ʞɔᴉN no it's not
Ell
Ell
00:28
@ʞɔᴉN yeah that's p reasonable
I think I can get one for £9.99 a month
which is p good
@Andrey well most people pay over $60/month for cell service, so maybe that will put it in perspective
@Ell yeah man that's like nothing
Ell
Ell
but but university also
my budget is tight
and idk if I will have motivation/time
I'd recommend you have a look at the equipment though.. every gym is different
yeah the motivation thing is a big factor
@ʞɔᴉN Notice that it's not dollars he is talking about
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^
00:30
That's like more than $15
I think for the first 6 months of 2015 I never stepped in the gym but i kept paying fees
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and dollar is like, 4.04 reais now
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ fair enough, I know it was gbp but I thought the exchange rate was less, like 1.3
it would be difficult to find anything lower than that though
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why go to gym when you have a public gym in the city? (all cities do, at least in here)
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00:34
you don't know from what <3 came from
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Doesn't this article look like it just came out of The Onion?
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00:35
Oh deep web...
I am back.
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ A physics library.
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ That's Anita Sarkeesian and her friends (GamerGate).
did SO just recently start displaying ads?
@Andrey Oh no! Visual Studio!
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Cyber Bullying Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha
00:37
I wish heroes 3 was on steam
ahahahah xd
god damnit ubisoft
they keep the old heroes on gog, uplay only humble bundles, heroes 3 hd on steam
it's like ugh
now that h3 hd is on steam there's 0 chance h3 will make it there because it would make hd be the worse option
@ElimGarak Haha Gotta Type My Messages With All Words Capitalized Hahah
It's A Song Title :D
when did that become a thing? keep seeing dumbass youtube comments written like that
causes my brain to stop and start as I try to parse a sentence
00:42
How Can JavaScript Be Real If Our WebDevs Suck
@Nooble Jayden Smith, get out
Bah.
Designing things is hard.
@Nooble How Can Your Mom Be Real If Her Gravitational Force Would Kill Us All Instantly
black whole
black whore
nah, too easy
00:48
@набиячлевэлиь uint65536_t your_moms_weight;
2
uint69_t your_dads_humour_level;
@набиячлевэлиь Gravity is currently best seen as a functional consequence of the curvature of spacetime caused by the presence of mass/energy (tied by the equivalence). Henceforth, you cannot even consider it as force trivially, nor is there any proof that there is a mediator (a force carrier) currently around (such as gravitons within the framework of quantum field theory). Therefore, it is not a property of Nooble's fat mom. But she still fat, yo.
Ell
Ell
you lucky poles: imgur.com/whAWXDQ
Luscious breasts galore!
00:56
poland on the bucket list now
We should invade Poland again.
@Ell having responsive crews? that's lucky for sure
@ElimGarak Did you ever?
@AlexM. i have news for you
00:57
@набиячлевэлиь Naw, I am waiting for you guys to recover from WWII. :/
@Borgleader He's into emergency services?
oh, he likes peanus. (I am a big fan of mine, too)
@ElimGarak hes farsighted
@ElimGarak Not to be confused with: Linus
WHERE ARE HIGH-RES CAMERAS WHEN YOU NEED THEM. :(
Pic of someone's sallad: 4K. Boobs: 64x64.
@Borgleader When are we going to get more screenies? Or are you still in Skellige? :(
Skellige best place
@ElimGarak Instagram is the worst offender; we have great cameras on phones but everything gets downscaled to 640
they may or may have not increased that since last I checked
01:02
@ʞɔᴉN Yes, with some DOM snooping, you can get twice that. :D Also, small res profile pics can be brought back to full size by removing the s150x150 clause.
@ElimGarak Oh I finished Witcher 3. I'm just not sure how to proceed with the next tasks. Might have to read Moving Frostbite to PBR again for some guidance.
The worst thing about being able to write Cyrillic is that I unknowingly switch to it and then realize 2 sentences thereafter
I write in American.
@Nooble You mean Latin analPhabet?
Also, it's 3:06am and I just finished my French homework.
Therefore we can conclude, that French is the worst language ever created by man
@Nooble What I imagined when you said that:
01:08
good night
@Borgleader :P
Mumble is yet again a desert
Fuck it, I need a hobby. Why is having hobbies so hard?
What do you guys think about an online 2D space RPG toy?
@ElimGarak Invent webDX12
New coding sound track: youtube.com/watch?v=Od8FfT1U820
@Nooble Wouldn't be useful by the time it was dumbed down made web-ready :D
Ell
Ell
01:14
@ElimGarak it's 2am man
@ElimGarak learn to pole dance
But it's the weekend, it's the time to work on projects vigorously.
@ElimGarak Haha.
Alright, I need a name for this little shindig. First who says Kyrostat, gets cock chopped off. Hey, "Shindig"
Cryodig
@ElimGarak Kryostate :P
01:17
If Nooble finished Icicle, I could use it for the lolz.
homework :(
@ElimGarak You should open-source your engine.
So I get to see all of your secrets.
I am one of those who believe open sourcing engines is kinda a bad idea which invites complacency. Open sourcing the knowledge behind it, I am all for. (Which I am working on right now, finalizing the free ebook on realtime rendering). besides, isn't UE4 open source?
@ElimGarak It needs to be extra-free for me. Is it n00b-friendly?
@ElimGarak Your single objection is that it makes people smug?
@ElimGarak 50% of the reason people do OSS is to demonstrate skill to get a better real job.
Well, and also the amount of crap that is being churned out on a daily basis because of the simplicity. Steam can't breathe from the shit being thrown upon it.
@Nooble Lots of physics/math, but all derived, described and made sense of.
01:23
Ok.
Do we have an estimate on when this will be released :D
I am hoping for real soon, I am currently in the process of typesetting, which is pretty much annoying. But safe estimate would be 1.5-2 months (which is pretty good for on-the-side book makin'). Some Lounge previews might come sooner, tho.
:)
Gonna quote you on this one.
Forever until it happens.
Ell
Ell
@ElimGarak nice
I am so looking forward to this
I kinda also derive a lot of physical stuff most papers take for granted or just reference into oblivion (which don't derive it either). Like Rayleigh scattering from classical electrodynamics (from Maxwell's equations, which I'll also probably add an appendix for later on because they come in handy all over the place (determining fresnel equations, being one example)). (Related to rendering participating media, atmospheric scattering).
Ell
Ell
you have a physics degree right?
01:30
Nah, I am just barely 23. :D I have a deep background in it (intense studying from a young age, obsession really), which is my primary field of interest. Computers came into the serious picture when I was 19 (formed a company after some good financial strides and devoted myself to it)
@ElimGarak Do computer graphics people deal with coherence effects?
Ell
Ell
shit man you have a company?
man I feel so inferior
I use my age as an excuse.
@Ell WHO DOESN'T
Ell
Ell
balls I need to catch up
what should my company do?
01:36
Butts
Ell
Ell
how many of them?
All of them
Ell
Ell
fuck I'll do as many as I can
okay sleep time
night all
@Ell The reason I didn't go into physics. I didn't aim for it, I just was really interested in all that stuff and it kinda happened. I just weighed my options, being in physics didn't seem like a good choice.
@Mikhail Nah, at least, not in realtime graphics. But research involving introducing more physically precise approaches has been ongoing.
I know a lot of physics, but the age of one-man discoveries is kinda behind us.
Elim write a decent physics engine.
In C++.
01:39
I know only one physic
@ElimGarak Coherent optics is one of my things. I just see a lot of claims of introducing physically accurate models that don't include the spread of the wave, these are in fact worse models of reality compared to geometric models because they overemphasize interference effects because they don't include coherence. Incoherence tends to decrease fringe visibility.
I also know some of these words
Yes, precisely. It is crucial to note that is mostly thrown around by publishers and peasants. Rendering in CG is usually physically based (as long as it is convenient). It gets grounded in reality, but simplifies those equations as far as the acceptable error will allow.
@ElimGarak Just to clarify the more complicated equation don't work as well as simplified equations due to coherence effects.
We should do realtime FEM, multipole for video games. That would mess with people.
That would crush machines. :D Right now, classical electrodynamics are basically just "consulted" to get the general idea. For example, determining the behavior of EM radiation on a medium boundary and then just using that info to coarsely replicate it, transmittance and reflectance factors. A lot of it is that back-and-forth process. In realtime rendering, rasterization is still king. So it is even more "removed from reality" than offline rendering.
Quantum mechanics are not consulted at all. Some aspects are, but are merely emulated via faking in imagespace. Light interaction with materials is separated onto diffuse and specular, along with additional special semitranslucent classes with separate approaches.
01:49
Well quantum mechanics can be used to derive polarization of materials, it describes how the electrons wiggle. Thats about it for optics.
It does provide a great insight in how light interacts with stuff, a really conclusive picture. Funny enough, quantum electrodynamics is the only aspect of quantum mechanics at peace with its relativistic counterpart (which is a "superset" of CED). One of my personal heroes was quite involved, Feynman.
That's pretty much the poster that should be at universities dedicated to physics. Or everywhere.
Programming
@ElimGarak That doesn't capture the desperation of graduate school. Working for PI who has used an endless stream of foreigners to forge decades of research work and conflict of interest with his companies existing patent portfolio preventing you from using the method that does work. And if you do succeeded, somebody steals your authorship.
01:57
@Mikhail Man, that sucks. I've been working on FTL theory that works within the confines of GR, but everytime I have something, it depends on weird properties of strange, exotic matter which the math alludes to. So it's basically, sit back, cry and wait for 10000 people working on the LHC or derivatives to tell you if that's even remotely possible. That's why I had no qualms over going full software engineering.
The answer is no
The likelihood of that within my lifetime is defeating.
Also programming
@CatPlusPlus :(
01:59
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, in undergrad I was the first developer at a company that now has 15 full time staff. I got like 20k for a years worth of work.
@Nooble this is our Cat
@Mikhail Man, that sucks even more. :D I have an uncle who supervises robots at a car component factory (does almost nothing), gets €30k a year. (Germany, Audi contractor company of some sort)
Well, that's pretty much life. Except we all get cut in the end. I have difficulty getting worked up over stuff in life as I am going to die anyways. I haven't been upset in years.
@Mikhail Did it get better afterwards? Nowadays?
@ʞɔᴉN Not the right colors.
02:06
@ElimGarak Well I'm in grad school now, which is a sad story due to my PI hating me for demonstrating his ideas are wrong. On the flip side he can't fire me because I built all the equipment.
Why the fuck am I paying for this shit. I get one preview in Photoshop, I accept, blinks back to original.
@Mikhail If he doesn't hate you, you're doing something wrong. So don't worry :D
especially if you did it in a really nice, polite way (demonstrate the error of his ways).
@Ell Don't talk nonsense. Just do what you love and whatever happens, you did what you loved. Nothing inferior about that.
@CatPlusPlus How's the tomorrowish build of the game coming along? Mondayish?
Dunno, need some sleep
Just do me a favor when it is on Steam and plink me to buy and share it with a few friends who love indie stuff. I love the silly gore in it.
I can't bring myself to do anything.
What's wrong with me.
@ThePhD Your problem is probably related that you're making stuff that is going to be used to make stuff.
02:14
@ElimGarak Not even that stuff.
Hell if I WAS doing that stuff I'd be 420 blazing it.
Just... everything else.
My limbs go dead. My brain just fucking checks out.
The best way to make stuff that is going to be used to make stuff is to make stuff and make everything a necessary evil of it. And then you can do a blank reiteration once you know what works and what doesn't. And forget about perfect, ain't gonna happen. Also, you're not going to do better next time, as Cat says. :D
I don't need motivation to work on my framework stuff.
@ThePhD Masturbation has depleted your Chi.
I can do that for days, weeks, months, with or without sleep, with or without food.
@Mikhail :l
02:18
@ThePhD Clearly, you should set shit on fire until you feel better.
Oh, the stench. Like farting on a man's balls.
stuff I meant stuff oh well
@ElimGarak Relatable.
@ElimGarak How's Quixel's export features?
Maybe if I turn on some music and just.... focus on stuff.
02:23
@ThePhD on the other hand, if you want advice from an alleged masochist, I always did one of three things: I turned it into a game, I rewarded myself with a short game of some sort after doing two hours of honest work on it, or I told myself if I didn't do it I would die in a ditch alone and in pain.
@Nooble Both generic (lots of choice) and target specific (popular engines). But be warned, it is a pluginish type of deal for Photoshop.
My hilarious levels of gullibility were a massive plus on that last one.
Mm.
@Mikhail Nice theme for teh background!
@ThePhD but yes, music does seem to help people focus
02:25
@jaggedSpire Dying alone in a ditch isn't too bad.
@Nooble sez you
@ElimGarak Wait what.
No wayyyy.
@ElimGarak you totally should have made half that link to Rebecca Black's Friday
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02:26
@Nooble yeah Nooble what are you doing with your life?
Go dress like a woman and sing. Post videos & pics.
also results/reactions
Aha! I'm older than her.
@jaggedSpire Not-homework.
if they're interesting. I hear New Yorkers are difficult to ruffle if you stay the hell out of the traffic pattern.
02:28
She's already crossing the 100M mark with her videos (2 of them AFAIK)
Okay, well some people have convinced me to be social. see you guys later.
Enjoy!
@Mikhail Rats.
@Mikhail see ya.
@jaggedSpire Rustle my jimmies.
02:29
Shave my back and call me an elf.
Kill my economy and call me Greece.
@Nooble I'm going to just stand in the middle of the doors into a subway train while people are getting off next time I go to NYC, just for you.
jagged, you inland USA?
With a suitcase I'll fill with bricks
At least, your voice gives me that vibe.
02:30
@ElimGarak yeah.
@jaggedSpire You'll get pushed.
I've seen it happen, but it's a tactical push.
@Nooble At least she won't get prodded.
@Nooble I'll be wearing bricks too. And I'll act like everyone else is being a jerk.
start yelling about assault
it'll be a whole scene
:O
Like a... tourist.
@ElimGarak I've heard many, many things about my accent
@Nooble strangely the only time I've been to NYC, I remembered to stay the fuck out of the foot traffic if I wasn't going to walk fast
02:33
@jaggedSpire You should always walk fast.
People have accused me of being Canadian, and Belgian, I think?
I was about to ask what Anadia was.
The name of Canada when I annex it.
@Nooble You should come to the midwest. People here don't know the meaning of fast. They mosey everywhere
Midwest feels like the middle of nowhere :D
02:34
in packs that block the entire walkway
@ElimGarak eh, I live in StL now.
STL.
@jaggedSpire But how.
It's super awkward.
@Nooble I don't know, I walk fast by default
I think they do some sort of weird thing with their legs, where they lock and unlock their knees with every step.
You end up like.
Moving your butt.
02:38
I have really long legs, so I walk slowly and still outpace everyone. (195-197 cm) Didn't measure my ass in years.
I am 5-791 cm.
Nooble is probably like 178 :P @jaggedSpire is 160-170 :P
I need to use a converter.
Damn, Nooble, SI your ass already :P
I am 172. 178 is pretty tall. Holy crap @ElimGarak you're a giant.
02:40
Damn, there's this really nice girl that I like. :/
I'm short enough that I do have to put effort to walk at a respectable speed. Apparently I wind up doing some sort of running/moon-walk thing that's very distinctive.
@Nooble Yeah, they call me the "telephone pole" here. ("bandera")
@jaggedSpire Moonwalking is pretty cool.
I think doing it forwards is just called walking
@Nooble eh, it's not quite a running gate but both my feet leave the ground at points
@ElimGarak They call @набиячлевэлиь a pole, too!
@jaggedSpire So you can, like, levitate?
02:45
Alright, just worked on my star generation ideas for the 2D space RPG toy.
That's also cool.
@Nooble oh definitely
@ElimGarak This needs photorealism.
@Nooble Actually, aiming for cartoonish beauty, multilayer, gradients, multikernel gaussians for glow
@ElimGarak kernel?
02:47
@Nooble Kernel/core. Basically, how many surrounding pixels are taken into account when filtering the center. (much is determined by the gaussian)
@ElimGarak Oh ok.
@jaggedSpire How far up can you levitate and for how long?
I think I'm going to enjoy this and it won't eat my time.
@ElimGarak You can use that "majestic distant background parallax" thing if you're doing 2D.
Everyone loves that.
@Nooble Ah, I am using 2.5D, basically, the perspective transforms gives it to me, between the different z-depths.
It's going to be glorious.
@Nooble about half a second, and about six inches
02:51
@jaggedSpire Me too.
nice, nice.
Me not. swallows sadness
@ElimGarak 2.5D is great for platformers.
If you've seen Little Big Planet.
It gets to have depth but you don't need to implement 3D physics!
Btw. you remember that Fallouty stuff I did?
Yes.
02:53
^ Didn't even notice this, was looking for it on reddit through Google. Apparently, shitload of sites got wind of it.
> Secret Internet Guy
/ cc @Lalaland
> programmer first, an artist second
> I'm sure that Secret Internet Guy could've passed this video off as a "leaked Fallout 4 trailer" and gotten a million views in the process. It's polished enough to be passed off as an official video from Bethesda. I'm glad that he didn't go that route, though, for the sake of everyone's sanity.
Ahahah, the guy's too kind.
also on gameranx ^
Now tell us, how much karma did you get on the reddits.
Nice.
I wanted to work on it more, but reality hit me hard. Like always. Man, what would I give to be your age. :D
And what I would give to have your graphics knowledge.
Trade pls.
You've started at the right age, by 23 you will. If you stick with it. But by the time you do, you'll have life to contend with.
Hopefully.

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