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2:00 AM
I'm supposed to make a HTML5 UI with JS help
 
Have you considered a career in botany instead?
 
user406009
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Don't use Angular.
 
Buttany is my strong suit
 
user406009
Unless you like stabbing yourself in the eye with a fork.
 
2:01 AM
I'm going for Typescript with React
 
user406009
That's a good approach.
 
user406009
(Flow + React also works well, depends on how much you want ES6 support)
 
user406009
My one other comment is to read the red box at facebook.github.io/react/docs/component-api.html#setstate.
 
user406009
And then read it again.
 
Ell
okay I need to recompile kernel. I need i2c-dev
 
2:24 AM
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    at exports.runInThisContext (vm.js:73:16)
    at Module._compile (module.js:443:25)
    at Object.Module._extensions..js (module.js:478:10)
    at Module.load (module.js:355:32)
    at Function.Module._load (module.js:310:12)
    at Module.require (module.js:365:17)
    at require (module.js:384:17)
    at Liftoff.handleArguments
    at Liftoff.<anonymous>
> Liftoff
/cc @Bartek
JS developer writes shitty library, thinks it's a plane.
 
JS library quiz: identify a library by its name
Bluebird?
 
user406009
Reflux?
 
Bacon.JS?
 
Also FFS why can't JS libraries post a goddamn CHANGELOG when they change version?
 
user406009
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Many libraries do.
 
user406009
2:28 AM
Just stop using bad JS libraries.
 
This particular lib just increased major number and there's no trace of changelog to be found
 
user406009
Which lib?
 
user406009
But that's mostly redundant with React ...
 
Yes, I am getting rid of it
 
Can't they put that on the goddamn front page or their website
 
why don't you use moustache
 
user406009
I found it in the standard place. The github repo.
 
or mustache
wot
 
Idk people told me to use that
 
2:31 AM
why do they spell it mustache
 
hipster factor
 
American English?
Whoa.
 
I hate webdev
 
I've been spelling it and seeing it as moustache for years
 
French orthography so probably same in UK
 
2:32 AM
Aug 4 at 8:46, by Rapptz
Web development is by far the most boring thing I've ever experienced.
 
Hate webdev.
With a passion.
 
Me too.
 
I DIDN'T SIGN FOR THIS
There should be a no-JavaScript clause in every contract
 
user406009
Wow guys. Webdev isn't that bad.
 
> If you can see this, React is not working right. This is probably because you're viewing this on your file system instead of a web server.
So running React samples needs a webserver, TIL
 
2:36 AM
@Lalaland You're right. It's worse.
 
Can someone help me with this
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Make a basic one nerd.
 
"If you can see this, this CSV parser is not working right. This is probably because your computer has less than 12 cores and 64 GB of RAM".
2
 
It's not that hard to make a basic webserver noob
127.0.0.1 it up
 
A webserver to run a JS library yes
I am overwhelmed with all this logic
 
user406009
2:41 AM
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva For interests sake, where are you running into that error?
 
React samples
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva It's all security policies
 
user406009
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Which one?
 
Also frontend webdev is the boring one
And also frontend whatever else
Fuck user interfaces
 
Fuck users.
 
user406009
2:44 AM
@CatPlusPlus But you have to admit that is one of the most important parts of a product.
 
@Lalaland Quadratic and a couple others
 
user406009
Usability is important.
 
But I understand now, it isn't physically possible to calculate a quadratic formula without an HTTP server, I take back everything I said earlier.
 
I'm only interested in making APIs
Let UI shit be someone else's problem
 
user406009
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva It's the JSXTransformer. Web security policies prevent you from arbitrary loading files off the disk.
 
user406009
2:46 AM
This is the browser actually being correct.
 
user406009
I am sure there is a command line flag for disabling this security feature.
 
@CatPlusPlus backend is pretty boilerplate-y.
unless you're only interested in making the API and none of the boring auth garbage
 
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I am mildly entertained
 
@Rapptz Hahahaha no
 
2:49 AM
yes
 
Since I'm actually making backends and not just reading about simple CRUDs
No
 
k I appreciate the appeal to self authority there
 
user406009
But most of what people want are simple CRUDs.
 
user406009
With good UIs.
 
Uh-huh
 
2:54 AM
Why is a 33k user helping answer an offtopic question in the comments
And someone upvoted
What the fuck
 
lol
 
user406009
@CatPlusPlus Prove me wrong. Other than Google, most popular sites (including SO) are not doing too much more than just storing and retrieving simple data.
 
Why would he prove anything when he can just be condescending? :>
 
Cat doesn't give a fuck.
 
>implying those photos cover a 34 million years span
nuh uh I don't think so
5 minutes tops
 
2:59 AM
Or that cats have existed for 34 million years
 
@Mysticial Bahahah, love those creatures. So chill.
 
user406009
Bartek might have some crazy beliefs, but at least he is willing to discuss his reasons.
 
@copy lol the earth is barely 6000 years old
 
Guise, you've been in this Lounge long enough to learn that you don't discuss stuff with Cat++, unless you agree on something. You enjoy banter, watch him troll vampires and relax.
 
user406009
> relax
 
user406009
3:02 AM
> Lounge
 
user406009
Wat
 
user406009
BUT PEOPLE MIGHT BE WRONG ON THE INTERNET
 
Forbidding people to copy shit because you can't trust fucking peoples.
 
damn I feel totally weak
 
What's the matter, wuss? <3
 
3:08 AM
body sucks :P
 
Install exoskeleton, dominate world.
 
@ElimGarak fucking peoples you don't trust is indeed a bad idea
 
Well, that too.
 
is exoskeleton cheap
 
Not sure, in Crysis, they burn your body to prevent the Chinese from getting it if you die.
 
3:09 AM
that's inhumane, preventing people from access to food
 
I see
well food is something I need to solve right now
 
user406009
You can always just go the other direction. Meet the new Andy:
 
user406009
 
I'd like to purchase that model.
 
user406009
Much better than the old Andy!
 
3:12 AM
I read something a while ago about someone's boss going to conferences with the robot
Apparently it was so annoying people would "forget" about it in a room with the doors closed
 
@Lalaland smile definitely is
it's also significantly thinner
 
user406009
@ElimGarak Yeah, that women has a very pretty face.
 
Putting comments above every = delete;: // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlP0m39xdI0
 
colleague sent everybody an upset mail saying it's not his fault the build was broken and someone owes him a beer to compensate for a useless trip to work by taxi at 3 AM. I'm curious dafuq is going on
 
user406009
Why would someone care about the build breaking at 3 AM?
 
3:14 AM
that's part of what I'd like to understand
 
drunkenness
 
I wouldn't wake up to fuck Rihanna at 3 AM, let alone fix a broken build.
 
or something
 
user406009
@ElimGarak Isn't it like 3 AM where you are right now?
 
15 minutes later he sent another mail saying "btw this should be entirely rewritten, I have no idea why this code is still around"
(I agree with him!)
 
3:15 AM
It's 5:15 AM, but I like writing rendering code, so it doesn't count. :P Going to work in about 3 hours. Woo!
 
you just stayed up to fuck Rihanna
 
The tooling presented in Herb's talk looks interesting.
 
it is interesting. I'm curious whether it can be started automatically on compilation and whether it slows it down a lot
 
But the crucial part is wake up. if you're already awake, you can fuck Rihanna while you fix the broken build. Or just fix the broken build and pout you Rihanna is not there.
 
I wonder if a Linux build will come soon.
 
user406009
3:17 AM
Is this from the latest talk posted on youtube?
 
The one on C++14 by default? Yeah. Microsofter talkin' about C++14. Always fun.
 
Herb is always like that
"Look at all the C++17 you can already do with MSVC" -- disregard the fact that many other C++11/14 features are broken
 
The interesting thing is that with VS2015 they will dispatch compiler updates without breaking changes before major versions
so no need for CTPs etc
including final implementation of await and other things
The bad news is that two-phase lookup is "not a short-term priority"
 
user406009
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Well, at least they are moving forward with that.
 
user406009
3:19 AM
Unlike their C compiler.
 
"Moving forward" is not enough
 
what I'm looking forward is to see modules in November
I'm really curious
 
I hope to god modules don't suck.
 
wot?
is there a missing comma in there
edit did not help too much
 
Ah well, I have a fear the initial MSVC implementation will taint the prospect of modules.
 
3:21 AM
oh wait
is "I hope to god" a way of saying "I really wish"?
 
yes, also I use fuck instead of god not to be a hypocritical pagan
 
user406009
Isn't there a competing implementation coming out of Google?
 
user406009
Or did they stop that?
 
Of modules?
 
user406009
Yeah, of modules.
 
3:22 AM
@Guriwesu It is a different implementation with a very different focus (on supporting existing code directly), but both are experimental
 
@Lalaland it was an old thing
 
@Guriwesu Clearly, as this stuff gets standardized, it will converge, but I don't think we actually know what the standard will be yet
why didn't the first one box
 
ah wait so it's not an old thing
 
@Griwes https
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva present in both
 
3:23 AM
why is your handle Guriwesu
 
like, both were literally copied from twitter links
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva nah, onebox sometimes just fucks up
you need to edit and repost as is
 
I really need modules. I need them in my life.
 
@AndyProwl because of this asshat
lol
literally up arrows -> enter
 
3:24 AM
@ElimGarak everyone does. Even those who say they don't
 
wtf, snackchat
 
it's a known thing
> Bartek
 
user406009
Modules are love. Modules are life.
 
Modules bring victory and victory is life.
 
3:26 AM
The unfortunate part is that they won't help much with template code
and considering most of the standard library is template code...
but hopefully there will be some improvement
 
user406009
Why not? Compiling the template to an AST should help somewhat.
 
user406009
Especially because you can do some of the lookups when you define the template.
 
I'm not a compiler guy but I guess the AST will have to be manipulated anyway upon instantiation
 
@Lalaland To the same AST MSVC doesn't have?
hides
 
MSVC is the one that should hide.
 
3:28 AM
It appears MSVC does have it by now
 
woot?
 
Not in 2015 no
 
shall I go out for food
@Griwes are you at Meydenbauer?
 
nope
 
user406009
@AndyProwl If you are in downtown Bellevue there is a lot of restaurants there.
 
3:37 AM
@Lalaland Yeah, I know
I'm just wondering if I feel like going out
 
@AndyProwl I believe they generate an AST now, but don't make much use of it. They've been rewriting the compiler to use it (at least minimally), but of course have to balance that with maintaining compatibility with zillions o' tons of existing code.
 
Yeah
all right let's get dressed that might help deciding how tired I am
 
3:56 AM
@AndyProwl So froim your earlier mention of how expensive it was, I decided to do a quick comparison to (approximately) the part of San Diego I want to live in. Did a quick search for houses: 2000+ square feet, 3+ bedrooms, free-standing house. In Bellevue, there are 12 houses for $600K or less. Same specs but in Carmel Valley, San Diego: zero houses. Raise the price limit to $700K: still none. Raise it to $800K: finally get two houses. I'd take Bellevue's prices any time...
 
@JerryCoffin Wait when did I mention how expensive it was?
 
@AndyProwl That was me. :P
 
btw speaking of San Diego I can't help thinking of this:
@ThePhD ah, ok, there has been a qui pro quo I guess
 
@ThePhD Oops. Did I mention that my memory isn't very dependable?
 
@JerryCoffin Bit Rot is a thing that happens.
... Though I would think it would happen to Robot, not you...
 
4:01 AM
Robot has perfect memory
not a single flipped bit
granted he does seem to forget stuff like breathing from time to time
but if a relevant piece of information needs to get stored it stays there reliably
 
I take it "place where I let my wallet" is not a relevant piece of information
 
yep
 
4:28 AM
 
4:44 AM
so I wrote to all my bosses asking if we can organize ligthtning talks at work
Lounge is asleep
what are you guise up to?
inb4 sleeping
 
cpx
Just some calculus!
I might program a simple graph plotter for equations now that I understand what "derivative" really is.
 
Nice
Think I'll go for a 10 min walk
and then maybe bed book sleep
I should also register for meeting c++
 
5:21 AM
"because" doesn't fit there
or maybe it does
 
whose is that
 
not sure how that's meant to be read
Gabi's talk on modules
 
Guys i need help.
 
Have you read the rules?
 
> Upgradation of kernel parameter values failed.
> Upgradation
Thanks India
 
5:30 AM
Guys i need help.
 
Have you read the rules?
(we can go on like this forever)
 
Yes Andy I have read the rules
 
Good boy
 
girl*
Your sexism is unbearable
 
Oh you upgradated your gender already?
 
5:32 AM
I upgradation it regularly
 
Ok cool let me know if you will need help with upgradatation
 
anyone?
 
Have you read the rules?
 
upgradationatation
 
yes.
I have just confusion.
 
5:35 AM
confusation
 
Just simple help.
 
Cool. You can ask but please do not expect anybody to answer - someone will if they feel like, but most likely nobody will feel like
What is your problem about?
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva confusation is trollerated here
 
When we add resource in project. It contain which kind of language? Or where the deceleration of .rc is where in main? mfc c++.
 
Deceleration?
 
declaration
 
5:37 AM
Oh
 
I corrected him a couple times but he DGAF
 
I'm still not sure what the question means
 
glorious china
 
sorry. Yes declaration.
@AndyProwl I am asking about mfc. In mfc project have a resource file. Which contain icon information or many think true?
 
You seem very confused. The problem is not "simple" because it requires explaining the basics. You should read a book
 
5:39 AM
@AlexCerry Google it?
 
@bluefog Is there a YouTube tutorial on how to use Google effectively?
 
let me youtube that for you
4
 
Just this resource file declare where?
 
@fred there is one but it's quite confusating
I need to remember to use "deceleration of verbibols" at some point
 
@fredoverflow AFAIK youtube can't handle such detail and complexity
 
5:42 AM
Peer asks me: "How do I do X on Y?"
I type "How do I do X on Y?" into Google
Peer amaze: "Are you a wizard?!?"
 
btw whats going on with the IDE?
 
Happened to me a couple times too
Never felt enough of a dick to send that lmgfy thingy
 
@Andy Prowl In china have no google.
 
@bluefog lots of things:
d472796 overload relational and equality operators for pointers
a332d29 extract reference and dereference methods
2e5d1cb overload increment and decrement operators for pointers
f95a0cb adjust parameter type by decay
9e60753 infer array size from initializer
 
@Alex but you do have books don't you? I'm sorry I don't know how to help you, I don't understand the question and you seem very confused about elementary things
 
5:45 AM
nice :)
You don't push to GitHub?
 
@AndyProwl don't forget to cimpole your funcitons
We should have our own "the many an memes of Lounge" page
 
@Andy Prowl In mfc project have .rc file. yes. So it contain which language. And first this file run from where understand or not/
 
ffs i have actually started reading "pointer" as "pointar"
3
 
@Anastasiya Right. I should upgradate my cimpolator just to be sure
@AlexCerry No I don't understand, sorry. I don't think we can help you. Please consider reading a book on MFC.
 
@bluefog For now I push to BitBucket ;) But I'll eventually push on GitHub when it's "done".
 
6:16 AM
ie never
 
6:27 AM
> The latest update of Rubix includes support for developing Isomorphic Javascript applications, BrowserSync + React Hot Loader
Isomorphic JavaScript applications.
 
6:57 AM
const Hacker = Liftoff({
  processTitle: 'hacker',
  moduleName: 'hacker',
  configName: 'hackerfile'
});
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva kill me
@Griwes promises
@Griwes FRP I think
@bluefog As long as you can correctly spell verbibols you're fine.
9:03 am. Game on.
 
1 message moved to bin
 
hahaha that gif
 
@TonyTheLion damnit
 
What do you work as now @Bartek
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva "Software Developer"
 
7:08 AM
amazing
 
good morning
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva what did you expect?
 
Haskell Evangelist no I wanted you to be more specific
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva you said "as" not "on"
 
Pedant Software Developer*
 
7:11 AM
I'm writing Javascript vOv
 
@TonyTheLion morning
@BartekBanachewicz That's neither software nor development
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva but c++ is?
 
user1804599
No.
 
Nice try barnachetek
 
user1804599
7:17 AM
Barraco Bartek
 
That would be a great company name, Barnachetech
 
user1804599
Initech is better.
 
@elyse nice try
 
@elyse How do you manage to do this every single time?
 
@Lalaland you'd be surprised how many uses behind html it has :)
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva but it's fine, I'm not writing actual node applications
 
user1804599
7:21 AM
@bluefog By being super awesome.
 
user1804599
@JohanLarsson hmm
 
user1804599
@sehe :p
 
user1804599
I don't think I'd call it and.
 
user1804599
It's some sort of lifted and.
 
user1804599
liftA2 (&&)
 
user1804599
7:25 AM
yeah cool, I'll just call it liftA2 (&&).
 
user1804599
no wait it's something else
 
user1804599
ah whatever fuck it
 
compositeAnd
 
user1804599
oh wait, it is liftA2 (&&), lol :3
 
7:27 AM
Every time I find myself at those Friday meetings I wonder what went wrong in my life
 
user1804599
λ map (liftA2 (&&) (> 5) (< 10)) [1..20]
[False,False,False,False,False,True,True,True,True,False,False,False,False,False,False,False,False,False,False,False]
 
rasterizer_state, blend_state, depth_stencil_state all down.
 
@slaphappy go on
 
We're still hiring, my boss says
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva what do you mean?
 
user1804599
(&&) <$> (> 5) <*> (< 10)
 
7:34 AM
What's your feeling about these meetings
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz are you good with applicatives?
 
user1804599
Scalaz has this operator |@| so that you can write (a |@| b)(f) which is equivalent to Haskell f <$> a <*> b but I have no idea how this could work.
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva I would say they are boring me to death, but it would be more accurate to say that they make me feel already dead
 
What does <*> mean in Haskell?
 
Yay my tax bill went in
 
user1804599
7:38 AM
@TonyTheLion haha
 
One month of salary. rip
 
@elyse sort of
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion "Sequential application."
 
@TonyTheLion it's applicative one-side lift
 
Do you even lift?
 
7:39 AM
<$> lifts both the function and the argument. <*> lifts the argument
 
user1804599
fmap f x = pure f <*> x
 
= f <$> x
clearer now @TonyTheLion?
 
user1804599
yes, because (<$>) is literally defined as fmap :p
 
I think you overestimate how much I understand about Haskell
I'll just have to read I guess
 
7:40 AM
I have a bad feeling about today
 
@TonyTheLion start with functors
 
user1804599
λ [(+ 1), (+ 2), (* 3)] <*> [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
[2,3,4,5,6,3,4,5,6,7,3,6,9,12,15]
 
user1804599
:D :D :D
 
@elyse does it only work for two arguments?
 
user1804599
no
 
user1804599
7:42 AM
I don't think so
 
user1804599
ooh I know
 
Scala has different approach to the arity of functions I think
 
user1804599
|@| creates an ApplicativeBuilder object, which has an apply method
 
user1804599
and f() calls the apply method on f in Scala.
 
> ApplicativeBuilder
gosh
them javapeople
 
user1804599
7:44 AM
And ApplicativeBuilder has a |@| method which returns a ApplicativeBuilder3 object, which has a |@| method which returns a ApplicativeBuilder4 object, and so forth.
 
user1804599
I suppose you can achieve it in Haskell in a way similar to how printf works.
 

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