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1:00 PM
oh wait
 
user1804599
@Mr.kbok Nice.
 
I have a habit of watching scary movie trailers and creepiest pictures videos on youtube right before I go to bed - they are getting less and less scary as the day go by ...
 
also eeeek dat bug
 
1:18 PM
Take this one for example - not for faint hearted because you might find the nurse kind of scary when she raises her head, it's hilarious - the only reason the nurse raises her head is to scare the crap out of the audience. Someone really should go for plastic surgery to achieve a look like hers. It's good for debt collectors, nobody dare to mess with you if you have a 'beautiful' face like that
 
> When downloading updates, the Samsung devices don't encrypt the executable file,
Er, shouldn't it be just signing?
 
user1804599
shoelaces are a stupid invention
 
I agree
It's 21st century and we're still using shoelaces
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I wondered about that too
 
user1804599
zippers ftw
 
1:20 PM
How fucked is that
 
> floccinaucinihilipilification
> the action or habit of estimating something as worthless. (The word is used chiefly as a curiosity.).
 
lol dat flag
 
Jun 12 at 18:29, by Etienne de Martel
May 21 at 13:15, by Tony The Lion
lol rightfold's opinions
 
@TonyTheLion .. I guess I'm uninistalling SwiftKey then.
 
> We can confirm that the SwiftKey Keyboard app available via Google Play or the Apple App Store is not affected by this vulnerability.
 
1:24 PM
Ah OK, it's the default one. That's annoying
 
Yea
Hope a patch comes quick
 
Unaccepting the older question doesn't exactly motivate anyone to look at this for you — sehe 8 secs ago
 
@sehe s/question/answer/ ?
 
Yeah. m.m. Fixed
 
@TonyTheLion what about the one I got from 22-dkfozlq.freepharma-viagracialis.ru ?
 
1:30 PM
lol
 
@MarcoA. I checked that one with a virus scanner. It's clean (the hash was 66a4a1a2b442e8d218e8e99100069877 just to be sure)
 
@sehe that reassures me. I connect to the internet via porndownloader.exe
I was scared that it could be somewhat malicious
 
@sehe The hash did not include 666 so you know it's good
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@Puppy best criterion ever
 
lol
so there's a discussion board for students a year after us
 
1:45 PM
> Flying is harmful to the environment. If I don't take a plane, I am not harming the environment in that manner. It doesn't change the fact that the plane I would have taken will still fly and still harm the environment the same. So all I have achieved from not flying is self-exoneration. The harm was still done, but I am not to blame for it. However, if more people thought like me, there would be no harm.
Is this a selfish way of thinking?
 
it's a bullshit way of thinking for one
 
Thank you.
 
Ell
Why?
 
I don't see why selfish
 
once we get that out of the way the fact whether it's selfish or not hardly matters, no?
 
Ell
1:47 PM
it is right
 
@BartekBanachewicz You can leave the discussion now, then.
 
Ell
if everyone thought of not flying, then the damage would not be done
 
let's assess the damage then
 
Ell
I think it is both unselfish and correct
 
why don't we look at all the damage flying is causing and evaluate that
 
Ell
1:48 PM
we don't need to do that
 
@BartekBanachewicz Why? Because that's not the discussion I tried to initiate.
 
while we're at it, let's take a look at the damage caused by trains, cars, motorbikes, factories, power plants, roads, cities, shops and amusement parks
 
@BartekBanachewicz No, let's not.
 
also rockets, don't forget rockets
 
lets asses the damage Bartek is doing to this discussion
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1:48 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Let's take a look at the thought process described instead, as originally requested.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ok.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes Do you think it is selfish?
 
So, we start off at a premise that "flying is harmful to the environment"
 
user406009
Which is correct (to a certain degree)
 
1:49 PM
@AndyProwl You care about exonerating yourself, and leave it to the others to care about it. SEP, basically.
 
> The harm was still done, but I am not to blame for it.
 
Also, IMHO, very largely irrelevant
 
IMHO its just an easy escape from the problem, as stated there
 
Anyone who know what could be wrong with this 32 bit image? i.imgur.com/7XOOq75.png
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's just "doing your part"
 
1:50 PM
@MicroHat11 Colors are wrong
 
user406009
No, avoiding plane travel reduces the amount of plane travel. You are not just avoiding the issue. You are helping solve the issue.
 
@TonyTheLion yeah, this is showing ignorance to feel better about oneself
 
@AndyProwl But is it? Isn't it doing your part for yourself only?
 
so yeah, I'd say it's selfish
 
Ell
Oh that kind of selfish
I think it is selfish, but I think everything is selfish in the sense that this is
 
1:51 PM
@milleniumbug yes i know but maybe somebody encountered the same effect before and has a clue where to look
 
@Lalaland Avoiding plane travel by one person isn't reducing the amount of plane travel considerably, I'd say.
 
Hmm Atom is still slow as crap even on an SSD.
 
@Lalaland That was stated in the original formulation.
 
We'd need firstly to compare non-human and human flights in volume.
 
@BartekBanachewicz ..because then, it would be sane to examine the damage caused by other activities, eg. shipping. Large marine diesels burn huge amounts of dirty, heavy oil and cause more pollution than aviation. So, get rid of the container ships first, and that's your cheap clothing and food gone.
 
1:51 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's not your responsibility to convince everyone else, and while doing so might be better (it depends), not doing it doesn't make you selfish. What is that person expected to do, other than doing what they think is correct?
 
@Lalaland Also, it does not reduce anything as a personal decision. Only as a collective one. That's the point in question,.
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz just like not littering isn't considerably reducing the amount of litter
 
@MartinJames hence my very first response to that
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Should we assume this is true? That the harm is exactly the same if I don't take the plane?
 
1:52 PM
@Mr.kbok The difference should be negligible.
 
@AndyProwl So whose responsibility is it then?
 
user406009
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes it does. It prevents one additional plane ticket from being sold. The difference is very small (pretty much negligible), but it is there.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think negligible is very different than null in this case
 
@Lalaland Does it? You can only be certain it is not sold to you.
 
@Ell Littering is different; it's going against an infrastructure we've set up for ourselves. It's deliberately nuking other people's efforsts.
 
user406009
1:53 PM
Same things apply to ethics-oriented vegetarians. They individual actions are small, but they make a difference.
 
Is it negligible, as in, harm divided by amount of people
 
It's just vandalism. There's no purpose behind littering.
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz I don't think littering is different
 
@TonyTheLion It depends on the subject (now I'm abstracting from this specific instance - with which I do not agree - and focusing on the line of reasoning only).
 
Ell
people litter for convenience
 
user1804599
1:53 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes it was probably the thought of somebody who loves animals, so I'd say it's a shellfish way of thinking.
 
@AndyProwl Most people do what they think is correct. Not relevant. The point is that a personal decision has no impact whatsoever. Only a collective one does.
 
Ell
people don't vandalise for convenience
 
people do litter to vandalise though
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes I would disagree with the first statement
 
some of them are just incosiderate, I'd agree.
 
Ell
1:54 PM
@BartekBanachewicz the majority of litter is for convenience
 
user406009
@R.MartinhoFernandes If someone else would have bought a ticket, they would have bought one regardless of my actions.
 
Ell
I have no statistics for that claim
 
@Lalaland Right, that's the point.
 
@BartekBanachewicz people that litter are cunts. My personal opinion.
 
I think this is the same kind of questions than with elections. Does your vote make a difference?
 
1:54 PM
MySQL does not have any function to bcrypt (blowfish crypt) a password :c
 
@Lalaland But even if your seat is empty, the plane still flies.
 
user406009
@R.MartinhoFernandes If my seat is empty, the plane company loses money and flies less planes.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You would reduce the margin of the operator though
 
the plane will use less fuel
 
@Lalaland It's negligible.
 
1:55 PM
@Puppy sorry to break it to you, but obviously you need to interpret that as a series of 32-bit integers, which should be converted to the correct endianness as A2A1A466D2E842B491E9E81877980600; Now you would immediately see that this includes 666 in its decimal form: 2161742295731006918472711 666 27009791488 /cc @MarcoA.
 
they operate on non-full planes all the time
the cost of a few passengers not flying won't make them fly less planes
 
Trivia: base-9 also works in that case
 
well we are very selfish creatures. Nobody does anything without personal gain. The difference lies in our personal ethics and what we consider beneficial for ourselves.
 
user406009
@R.MartinhoFernandes @BartekBanachewicz Yep, it's negligible. But when many people do it makes a significant difference.
 
it'd require a mass decline and that won't happen because, well it's more convenient to fly than not
 
user406009
1:56 PM
Be the change you want to see in the world sorta thinking.
 
@Veritas True that.
 
if you made it more convenient to not litter than to litter...
 
@AndyProwl And by just sticking to a personal decision you're not truly working on the solution (a collective decision).
@Lalaland Thank you for finally understanding the question.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't think that's the case. Most people do what's more convenient and don't consider whether it's correct from a non-individual perspective. Anyway I don't think that line of reasoning is "selfish". Being selfish is not giving a fuck about the others. This is just doing their part (possibly even at their own detriment and possibly for the collective benefit). Trying to educate the whole world isn't something people can be expected to do in order not to be called "selfish"
 
@Lalaland also again, how much does personal transport in flight compare to industrial transport
 
1:57 PM
That took some fiddling (xxd -r <<< "0 66A4A1A2B442E8D218E8E99100069877" | od -Anone -t x4 | tr 'a-z' 'A-Z' | tr -dc '0-9A-F\n' to arrive at the endianness-shuffled hex, for base in {2..26}; do echo "base $base: $(bc <<< "obase=$base; ibase=16; A2A1A466D2E842B491E9E81877980600")"; done | grep 666 to detect any bases in which it contains 666) /cc @MarcoA.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't think it's negligible. The amount of profit the company makes is strictly equal to the margin it makes times the tickets bought
 
Well, if you really believe your wrong opinions and convince others because you really think it will help, you're hardly selfish.
 
@Mr.kbok One ticket is negligible.
 
You're wrong, but not selfish.
 
@Mr.kbok Note that the original formulation doesn't state that if everyone does it there's no impact. Quite the opposite.
 
1:58 PM
Yes, I know
 
Ell
You could argue that saving the environment was selfish too
you can argue that most things are selfish imho
 
@BartekBanachewicz It depends on how much effort you are willing to invest in seeing other people's opinions. That's the selfish part
 
BUT if you try to convince others without a proper backing and understanding, I'd go for selfish again
 
@Mr.kbok Then I miss your point with rephrasing it.
 
user406009
@BartekBanachewicz I do agree with you. Worrying about plane pollution is stupid when there are much larger sources of pollution. That person avoiding plane travel is not selfish. He/she is merely ignorant.
 
Ell
1:58 PM
I don't think it's a useful distinction
 
My point is that your impact is exactly the impact if everyone would do it divided by the number of people who fly; so it's not negligible
 
@Lalaland Now, is an ignorant agitator, doing agitation to feel better, selfish? //cc @R.m
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's just reckless.
 
user406009
@BartekBanachewicz No.
 
I am not sure yet
I think that a certain level of ignorance makes that true, which would align with my very first point
 
2:00 PM
@Mr.kbok Er. No, it's not. You're assuming a linear relation for no reason whatsoever.
 
If you want to take responsibility for the environment, you also have to take responsibility for being incorrect.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I did, but not for no reason; also that's why I asked first
 
If you don't care enough to educate yourself properly, then you're not doing that.
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's a loaded question. Remove the "ignorant". Does the question change?
 
user406009
This discussion really reminds me of my ethics class. The problem was that people with good intentions can act in bad ways if they are ignorant. One resolution that was proposed was to say that educating oneself is a part of "good intentions". So an ignorant person can never act with good intentions as they aren't educating themselves.
 
2:01 PM
@Lalaland exactly!
Nice way to put what I had in mind into words.
 
WTF.
Just got eleven plinks at once.
@Lalaland That's ignorant of people factors.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes To me, there is an important distinction between "the impact is negligible because so many people" and "the impact is negligible due to scaling reasons"
 
It assumes people can be free of biases, for once. Go back to dreamland.
 
Everyone is selfish. Even those that are otherwise altruistic have personal gain from being altruistic. It's just that the act of altruism has more value and carries bigger weight to them.
 
@Mr.kbok I have no idea how any of those is relevant.
 
2:03 PM
@Veritas That doesn't help the discussion imho
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what people factors
 
@TonyTheLion Ayn Rand helps every discussion, duh.
 
@Veritas Yes, you can empty the words of meaning, but then you don't have any reason to be in the discussion involving them.
 
@SamDeHaan hi hi
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm getting to it
 
2:04 PM
1 min ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
It assumes people can be free of biases, for once. Go back to dreamland.
 
user406009
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, I completely butchered that explanation. I took that ethics class too long ago. I believe the topic was virtue ethics. I never really liked the idea of judging people by intentions either.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't understand what you mean at all
 
@Lalaland Easier to judge by the results of a persons actions imho
 
or rather
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes If the impact is actually negligible (option 2) (Note that I have absolutely no idea if it is), then the only goal of the action is to negate the responsibility, but no positive effect actually comes out. That would be selfish
 
2:05 PM
I don't understand how having a bias conflicts with what I said about responsibility
you can educate yourself, you can be bias, you can choose wrong
but since you made an educated decision, your conscience should be clear
as long as the bias is just, well, bias, and not a complete game-changer for your decision
 
@BartekBanachewicz what if the person studied incorrect data?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Because if you actually care about the environnment, then there are more efficient ways to do it than forbiding yourself from taking planes
 
inb4 "no one ever lies on the internet" :P
 
@TonyTheLion well, the responsibility is always on the actor at the end
 
2:06 PM
so if you want to act, you better be well prepared to face the consequences.
 
@Mr.kbok I'm assuming your impact is negligible because it is below the thresholds at which airlines care. The breakeven load factors are around 65%. Anything above 65% capacity is profit.
 
The conversation is interesting but it has become hard to follow. In summary, my take is that you can label it as "insufficient", but not as "selfish".
 
which should be easier if you're better prepared for the act itself
 
user406009
@AndyProwl More like ignorant, but not selfish.
 
@Lalaland Why ignorant? What does it ignore?
 
2:07 PM
@Lalaland "Ignorant" assumes you know what's true. I'm just focusing on the line of reasoning, not on the concrete instance
 
@AndyProwl Thanks!
@AndyProwl I like that.
 
Could you say it was "misguided"?
 
user406009
Someone should change the name to Lounge<Philosophy>
 
@Mr.kbok Basically, unless you get planes below the breakeven load factor, there's no incentive to fly less of them. You alone can't get a plane below breakeven load factor.
 
2:09 PM
@TonyTheLion IMO that also assumes you know what's true. The point is: assuming that person is right, are they acting in a selfish way?
boy I don't feel like working
 
Such edit, much improve, wow (ridiculous meme goes with the ridiculousness of the edit)
 
From the airline POV, the decision is something like "Should we fly that extra plane at 90% capacity?", to which the answer is "It increases profits, so yes".
 
@AndyProwl seems like ever since you got back from uncon, you stopped feeling like working...
 
@TonyTheLion lol, it actually started the week before
 
2:12 PM
I just hate this task. Thankfully it's going to be over after this week
 
90% load factor is pretty good, in Europe, anyway.
 
@sehe For me, there's no slippery slope. I just don't do it. I do take reliability more seriously than the next guy…
 
On the other hand, if the decision is "Should we fly that extra plane at 50% capacity?" the answer is "no, that will cost us".
 
inf
what's SOs stance on reminding people to accept answers again?
 
Do it for the precious, precious, rep.
 
2:15 PM
> improved title
Really improved.
 
@Ell I see a pattern: the focus to be always extremely accurate is also the attitude that generates a zillion excuses for everything whenever convenient/required.
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@inf Only do it in person. Sneak up behind the offender while she has breakfast.
 
@Potatoswatter I think that's twice in a row that the elipsis is used to imply argumentation :)
 
inf
@Potatoswatter ^^That might be a bit difficult
 
user1804599
The customer is happy hurray.
 
user1804599
2:16 PM
I'm happy.
 
@Ell The problem is that the concept of our language doesn't afford the kind of accuracy sought, so it's always easy to bend "truth" (actually: language representations of (subjective) knowledge)
The lounge has more than one happy customer in this camp (lori, to name just a few)
 
@sehe Let me phrase it thus: I take reliability more seriously than most programmers!
 
@rightfold I swear I didn't read that message
@Potatoswatter I think most loungers sing this song.
 
Little did I know that my Steam downloads were getting throttled by my HDD.
 
Let's sing a song for the broken hearted...
 
2:17 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I rejected that edit thinking it was obviously a useless one, to my surprise it got accepted
 
Ell
I just think we need an accurate definition of "selfish" before we decide if something is selfish or not
 
oh wait, not that song Loungers sing, is it?
 
Now I'm getting 38 MB/s downloads :)
 
Gah I need to go to sleep. My internal grammar is horribly broken. s/responsiblity/reliability/. (I take responsibility for reliability? Subconscious slip, who knows.)
 
> Selfishness is being concerned, sometimes excessively or exclusively, for oneself or one's own advantage, pleasure, or welfare, regardless of others.
 
2:19 PM
@sehe Nice
 
@TonyTheLion I do. I mean sing. Dunno about that song
 
heh
I would love to learn singing
 
@Ell I just care about the relation between concern with self (in this instance, through exoneration), and concern with the problem (in this instance, through reducing harm to the environment). A bias towards the former is selfish, a bias towards the latter is not.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Eh?
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes I guess I agree
 
2:23 PM
23 hours ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
@CatPlusPlus I postulate "This is not what want" becomes next room topic.
 
I personally think it's everyone's problem, and treating it as SEP is detrimental.
 
Yes
I don't think you can be exonerated from "caring for the environment"
 
you can be what
 
"Be the change that you wish to see in the world" too often leads to SEP.
 
The change I'd like to see in the world would be to see less people complaining about flight and civilization development in general.
Should I become a serial killer
 
2:25 PM
or mass murderer
a lot quicker
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEP, not sure which you mean?
 
someoneelseseproblem
 
@TonyTheLion Somebody else's problem
 
Somebody Else's Problem (also known as Someone Else's Problem or SEP) is a psychological effect where people choose to dissociate themselves from an issue that may be in critical need of recognition. Such issues may be of large concern to the population as a whole but can easily be a choice of ignorance by an individual. Author Douglas Adams' comedic description of the condition, which he ascribes to a physical "SEP field", has helped make it a generally recognized phenomenon. Somebody Else's Problem has been used to capture public attention on matters that may have been overlooked and has less...
 
2:26 PM
Sexual Exploited Person
 
> Is your gender identity the same as the gender you were originally assigned at birth?
uhhhhhh
 
> assigned
 
@buttifulbuttefly helicopters
 
to impress a chick
do the helicopter dick
helicopter dick
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2:28 PM
very chic
 
lol
 
butt should visit cat++
 
Source for those who wonder
 
@AndyProwl However, note that if you consider it insufficient, it implies that either you have not really done your part, or you are truly powerless.
 
@buttifulbuttefly wait, do girls actually like that?
 
@sehe sure
 
> assigned at birth
dumb fucks
 
(Imperial College of London)
 
@MarcoA. Oh. I think I can re-learn that quickly. I mean, some skills are never lost, they say ;)
 
2:31 PM
You don't 'assign' gender at birth, you can only determine it at birth.
@buttifulbuttefly Seriously? o.o
 
I wonder, when does sex starts to show ... at what month?
 
2nd month?
IIRC
 
@chmod711telkitty Are you pregnant? :)
 
curiosity
 
2:32 PM
Ah no, 3rd month
 
so sex was unassigned for the first two months or it does not show
 
@buttifulbuttefly Filling gay quizzes?
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz when can you get factorio running? :D
oh wait
exam tomorrow
hmm
 
Ell
2:34 PM
I have an angel and devil on each shoulder :(
 
elliotte got sucked in\
 
I believe things get fuzzy at this point. What amount of effort counts as "doing one's part"? Shall we assume that not doing more than what they did is due to laziness and/or lack of interest? I assume the person is sharing their ideas with others, so it's contributing to other people's (potential) education, in a sense.
They may even avoid doing more than they're doing because of awareness that they might be wrong, or because of respect towards other people's opinion (especially if it's the majority). They may also avoid doing more because past attempts even at a smaller scale have proven
(sorry, wall of text)
 
user1804599
@sehe good dicks are hard and inflexible.
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@rightfold Just like Justice
 
@Ell we first have to get @Jefff to stop hating me for hating him for wrecking the shit out souther mines because I didn't help him with natives
 
2:35 PM
Common sense suggests me they are not necessarily behaving "selfish" as in "I'll do what's convenient to me, fuck the others". But then again, common sense is also subjective
 
@AndyProwl "Shall we assume that not doing more than what they did is due to laziness and/or lack of interest?" No judgment of value in my statement. Just taking "insufficient" to mean... well, it's usual meaning.
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz what actually happened to the south mines?
 
@AndyProwl I mean, there are many reasons for not doing enough. It's still not doing enough.
 
OT: Does anybody know of/remember any "don'ts" for posts on Disqus.com? I commented under an article, quoted some parts of the article with <blockquote> and it got deleted. I redacted the original reaction to be shorter, it got deleted again. Is this automated (spam detection or such) or is it basically censorship from the news web or the article author/admins?
I was respectful and generally coherent, I believe.
 
@wilx Probably moderated.
 
2:37 PM
if(sentence.contains("dick") == true) star(sentence);
these checks are getting more and more expensive
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes But the point is how do you define "enough". If "enough" means "enough to solve the problem" then no, you're not doing enough - but expecting one person to do enough to solve that problem sounds like expecting too much to me
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Geebus. Thanks. I think I want to move to another planet.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I CAN DRAW THAT
 
@Ell I prepared spots for iron mine station and steel smelting in green circles
 
2:38 PM
I saw a diagram making fun of the OpenStack organization today, but lost it. Anyone see what I mean and have a link handy?
 
he routed the mine so that it touched the rails in the red circle
 
@AndyProwl It's easy to define in your own terms: enough is how much is needed for it to not be insufficient.
 
I always make bypasses for every station
 
Ell
couldn't you just move track?
 
also I wanted to smelt ore into plates everywhere, but keep steel as a separate station
 
2:39 PM
@sehe I've fixed most of it, only struggling with this stackoverflow.com/questions/30894552/…
 
@Ell uh, it's more effort to move and reroute the track than to use the one I provided in the first place
 
@AndyProwl I don't know what I should expect people to do. It's exactly what I'm trying to sort out in my head, and hence asking this question here.
 
@Ell That's what I was wondering myself
 
I always make the stations so that if the train is standing there another can pass
and b) Steel is supposed to be different from plates because it is going to be a permanent station
 
I envy @Ell. He can maintain his shit every time. I wish I had that temper.
 
2:40 PM
even if one ore place runs off we can still use the same steel station, bringin plates from other mines
@Jefffrey meh, it was just a misunderstanding
I was tired and didn't tell you properly what I had in mind
 
Fucking hell.
 
Ell
@Jefffrey Not always. I was pretty pissed yesterday :(
 
then I got annoyed because I had to reroute what I already had finished
 
Ell
I'm feeling better today though
(about my exam I mean)
 
I just got a reaction that says that the rules say "no graphical highlighting in the discussion".
 
Ell
2:41 PM
also @BartekBanachewicz, what happened when you dropped out?
(and we got unsynced?)
 
Yesterday was the first day of the year where it was mandatory not to piss me off. Overall it went much better than expected.
 
uh well
@Jefffrey why?
 
I used blockquote, which is part of Disqus' features and <p> and <i> and <b> as part of the original text.
 
@Ell I just kept on working, thinking you'd reconnect
 
@BartekBanachewicz Sum of other shits happened and I was on the verge of losing it.
 
Ell
2:42 PM
well, we didn't disconnect
you disconnected
 
from my pov it looked like you'd disconnect :/
 
Ell
from both of us simultaneously
 
actually I only saw you disconnecting first
I was sure jefff is still there
glory of P2P
 
Oh I see the kind of contradiction you spotted in my reasoning. In a previous message I meant "insufficient" as "insufficient to solve the problem", but when I wrote "their part" (perhaps considering that to mean "enough") I meant "what's reasonable to expect from them".
Roughly, I'd expect them to 1) consider the status quo; 2) consider/respect other people's opinion; 3) if a problem is found, discuss it, ask around, see what other people have to say; 4) do what you think is correct (which is not necessarily what's convenient for you).
 
user1804599
Go is great.
 
2:44 PM
The board game, yes.
 
user1804599
I am happy I'm going to program in it this evening.
 
Why are you programming in a board game?
 
@rightfold and writing several hello worlds
 
user1804599
Noooo.
 
@Griwes The board game works better than his code.
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user1804599
2:45 PM
Adding timeouts to rucoli and simplifying the protocol.
 
BRUCOLI
 
@MartinJames That goes without saying.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes rip ottomans
 
Can't have type aliases in MySQL
gg I guess
 
user1804599
2:46 PM
No, not rucola.
 
Rucola is awesome
 
user1804599
I agree.
 
Ich mag rucola!
 
user1804599
I always put it on my baguettes together with onion, cheese, salami and butter.
 
a light snack ._.
 
2:50 PM
Also I want that
 
user1804599
lol
 
the tail is just amazing
 
user1804599
And dangerous.
 
user1804599
@MartinJames her*
 
The colors don't match!
 
2:54 PM
@rightfold meh, I don't think it covers the lights
 
ssshit they unblocked agar.io from work
4
how could they do this to me
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz what if it slides off
 
@rightfold what slides off?
 

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