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12:00 AM
It wasn't outrageous, hence my kudos
 
He might not have stressed technicalities quite so much as the most appreciated answers, but that doesn't make it wrong.
 
Ummm.. OK, while I was down the club, my NetGear 1GB router executed a JCF instruction after my fleecy jacket fell off the back of the chair and covered it up:(
 
you're right
but there's a 1/someBigNumber chance that after a delete his "old stuff" is still there; the "might" keyword saved him.
 
Or in fact, you overreacted.
 
> Contrary to real warehouse staff they aren't doing anything with the box
 
12:02 AM
@MartinJames Jump on carry? Ah. You dropped it, and you couldn't find it/forgot it?
 
This implies the "box" is just left there to rot in a warehouse corner, with the other unwanted boxes.
The outcast of outcasts.
 
@DonLarynx It's true.
 
@sehe I think you know that it overheated:)
 
@DonLarynx It's perfectly possible this is exactly what the heap/memory managers do
 
they're taking all of the contents outside of the box and leaving it in place.
is my understanding
 
12:03 AM
@MartinJames I didn't. It... combusted. Whoa. That's not nice
 
Why are there so many devs who don't know how their computer memory works?
 
@DonLarynx How? Of course not. Deleting is a purely "administrative" thing (assuming POD data)
 
@sehe 'Jump and Catch Fire'
 
Because they regard it as a magic box?
 
@MartinJames I thin @Don is just uncomfortable and wants to err on the safe side. Making him downvote well-received answers, sadly
 
12:06 AM
> You last voted on this answer 11 mins ago. Your vote is now locked in unless this answer is edited.
Sorry?
 
@DonLarynx The problem is that "deleting" the box doesn't do anything, really. It just makes the box available for reuse (and new owners are free to completely disregard what still "seems" to be there). You're thinking more of moving (and then deleting) or deleting with a destructor that explicitly re-initializes the memory (if the compiler didn't optimize that out!)
 
<- yagni / 0
 
then delete should be renamed to the proposed c++21 keyword
makeAvailable
 
5
A: Expire vote locks after a month

seheI usually just suck it up. Sometimes I'll post a new answer if I later realized a better answer exists. Sometimes, when e.g. I find I was wrong to downvote (e.g. after other people clarified context I missed) I'll explicitly edit the post with a comment like <!-- edit so I can un-downvote --> ...

Not saying you should. We can consider some votes noise. But if it were "significant" (e.g. 3 up, 1 down) then I'd certainly fix it
 
I noticed the peculiar observation that delete doesn't actually "delete" memory after calling RRelease(root_) and then delete root_ on my OAA. The root_ was still there!
RRelease sets the children to nullptrs after deleting them
Do u like my avatar sehe? I hope you do. you still look like a snowflake gorilla. it's a somewhat bothersome illusion.
 
12:13 AM
i thought sehe's avatar was the abominable snowman tbh
 
@DonLarynx I just gave it a look. It's nice. Bit small :)
 
ideone.com/YBF6Ct goes to show some compilers will leave the data there, some will set it to the default value (in this case), some will perform sodomy on the object, etc.
 
I figured for an embarrassingly long time that sehe and sbi were bffs and had decided to coordinate their avatars. And then I realized sehe's avatar was a polar bear.
 
it's called undefined behaviour bub
 
sehe and sbi being bffs is ub?
 
12:16 AM
23 mins ago, by sehe
@DonLarynx Indeed it isn't. It's undefined
> 23 mins ago
 
@sehe ah, thanks
 
> 23
 
I'll mention this to the blog
 
thanks Don, I can read
 
@DonLarynx It's why I like the warehouse + boxes metaphor, though I think it might be more apt to say each box is full of sand or blocks, and people can make whatever they want out of what's in the box. You check back in after you signed over responsibility/ownership of the box, and your rad castle might still be there, or someone might have come along and turned it into a miniature zen garden.
 
i like the zen garden option
 
except hopefully they didnt steal it either
 
I'll just use sehe's example.
 
12:19 AM
Translation: I'll just close off my mind to u kthxbay
 
Kay.
 
@jaggedSpire not me! him!
 
@DonLarynx Kay.
 
@nick Well, this a better demo? /cc @VermillionAzure
 
> I'll just use sehe's example
Yours is much better. I'm using it.
 
12:23 AM
@jaggedSpire which is really independent of the previous :)
 
With some modifications to remove the exceptions
 
@VermillionAzure That's fine (as long as you propagate the error)
Throwing was my bid to keep it simpler by not explicitly setting the failbit
 
@sehe This is also true.
 
@VermillionAzure ah, timing :) I had just been away for a little bit.
 
@sehe It's much better, actually
That's a really neat way of doing it.
 
12:27 AM
@jaggedSpire I'll have you know we did coordinate avatars, in a way:
Apr 13 '12 at 18:01, by rubenvb
@sbi hey, we don't have a polar bear in here...
@VermillionAzure <bows/>
I'm going to get some sleep. Night all
 
@sehe That is highly amusing.
@sehe Night.
 
@sehe goodnight sweet prince
 
(sorry for pinging you twice)
 
@jaggedSpire It's alright :)
 
@sehe good night
 
12:29 AM
@sehe Huh. I never noticed it was photoshopped. Then again, it took me several months to notice it wasn't a gorilla...
 
the bear is shy
 
The bear is facepalming at all the VLC questions.
 
^ took me a few seconds :)
 
That's the story I made up when I finally correctly identified the species in the image, at least.
 
string to float? u w0t m8? we're in 2015 who uses floats anymore?
 
12:31 AM
Float costs half as much as double
 
@chmod711telkitty depends
I was going to bed :S
 
Not necessarily during ~processing~
 
@chmod711telkitty that's precisely why i asked why he used stof instead of stod :)
 
...Are we censoring ourselves now? Is that what's happening?
 
@jaggedSpire join us!
here i bring you some music
 
12:35 AM
(removed)
4
 
@chmod711telkitty remember that if you want to buy a double you need to take out a loan
 
(removed using a move constructor)
 
@sehe done.
@nick what are you talking about
 
The people here in HK piss me off
 
user562566
@buttifulbuttefly you're welcome
 
I've managed to install Windows 10 Technical Preview.
 
user562566
@Nooble old.
 
@TechnikEmpire I just got a new SSD so I figured I'd try it.
SSDs are freakin' great.
 
user562566
yeah I could never go back
 
user562566
and yeah win 10 is pretty neat, waiting to see full release though
 
12:41 AM
@VermillionAzure pssst. make that
bool expect(std::istream& is, char match) {
    char input;
    return is >> input && input == match;
}
 
So I was going through installation.
 
I wonder if microsoft knew that they'd be using minecraft to demo hololens
 
And it gave me an error with creating a new user.
 
when they proposed they buy mojang
 
The error was literally "Something went wrong.".
 
user562566
12:42 AM
@Nooble lol so much insight
 
user562566
@Nooble did you try fixing the problem?
 
Yeah I googled it.
 
I suspect they figured Mojang was a money train with unused weight capacity.
 
And it said just to keep rebooting until it solved itself.
It took 3 reboots.
Holy crap you can highlight things on Command Prompt now!
 
user562566
well there you go, they didn't give you detailed info because they knew it'd fix itself ;)
 
12:44 AM
@Nooble the future is now ;)
 
@sehe i like it more explicit as it is right now
 
user562566
@Nooble mind->blown
 
explaining implicit conversion to bools is not too easy yet
that'll have to come a little later
 
convert ostream to a bool, NOW
 
@DonLarynx NAO
 
12:45 AM
MEAO
 
I figure this whole experience will just be me being delighted that Windows is turning into a not-so-crappy OS.
 
@VermillionAzure i mean the main content area of the site
 
@VermillionAzure that part didn't change. Don't teach the if (!false) return true; else return false; antipattern. More cargo-cult
 
user562566
@Nooble I never tried the workspaces when I installed it
 
right now the max width is 660px so you have to do a lot of scrolling
 
12:45 AM
@DonLarynx MDGO-AW
 
> Middelbaar dienstenverlenings-en gezondheidszorgonderwijs-agogisch werk
(followed by some more gibberish)
so, sehe, tell me why if I do delete on a message, it throws the box away?
 
drink more beer. It'll come to you
 
i cant im abstaining from beer for 25 more days
 
it shows
 
12:48 AM
@nick mmmm nah.
 
Seriously this SSD is wonderful.
 
@VermillionAzure why not?
 
> Another commonly used dyadic (two-input) operator is the linear blend operator
TIL dyadic == binary
 
@Nooble you'll come to take the speed for granted after a while lol
 
@AlexM. monadic = one element, nulladic = zero element, etc
 
12:51 AM
@nick Yeah I don't see myself coming back to HDDs.
 
theres 200px more of horizontal space in the tutorial content area
i dunno i just find it more readable
 
Boot time for me is under 8 seconds.
But most of it is the BIOS splash screen.
 
dunno how you got 8 seconds man, mine only does 15 and its practically a clean install
 
@Nooble After SSD, nobody goes back, (at least, not for system disks).
 
@nick I'm Just Too Goodâ„¢
 
1:03 AM
must be :)
i might migrate my windows install to my evo
i feel like i'd get better performance
 
Hey look at that, NVIDIA has Windows 10 drivers.
 
youre on win10?
 
Yes.
Currently.
 
how is it?
 
Wonderful.
 
1:07 AM
wait did they get rid of the full screen start menu?
i was just starting to like it
 
Yes.
 
@Nooble oh wow
nice
@nick i don't
 
@Nooble pls describe
 
I should take a screenshot.
 
@Nooble how's the performance
is it better?
did you lose any info from 8 -> 10?
 
1:08 AM
@VermillionAzure just my thoughts anyways :P
 
@VermillionAzure Well, I'm on a new disk.
 
clean windows installs are the best kind
actually wait i think i have stuff worth keeping now
 
you can't do function overloading in matlab
seriously what
 
oh god the bin icon
 
1:10 AM
I know right.
It looks weird.
 
@Nooble hey that's me there
HI ME
 
looks like isometric pixel art
i likes
 
@Nooble ew
ewwww
the search bar is ewwww
I don't even like Ubuntu's web integration
 
yeah whats up with the search bar
 
1:11 AM
it's so clunky
 
is it useful @Nooble?
 
@nick The search bar? I mean it works just like any other search bar.
 
Can you set the search to Google or can you only effectively use it for porn?
I mean bing.
 
@VermillionAzure when os x yosemite came out with web integrated into spotlight i thought it would suck
turns out its quite handy
 
It's Cortana.
That search bar is an assistant or something.
 
1:12 AM
ugh
 
@Nooble i mean does it search your computer or does it give you a bunch of bing crap?
 
well whatever
I still need to run software from XP
 
also does it focus when the start menu opens?
this is important
 
@nick it searches the lounge transcript
@nick it steals the focus when you least expect it
 
@AlexM. oh so just a bunch of crap right
 
1:13 AM
@nick And can you change it to an effective search engine instead of bing? Or remove it?
 
And that is the windows button now.
 
@Nooble so thirsty
ill still miss the full screen start tho
 
@Nooble somewhat attractive, I guess
@nick no.
 
great way to hide what youre doing with a press of a button
 
fuck no.
the full screen kills computers; it's double caching for the desktop
it's even worse with their real time integration if you don't want or need it
 
1:15 AM
@nick Hey I do that too.
 
@Nooble hah right?
 
@Nooble You guys kind of suck
Use your phone
 
what the hell are you hiding from
your moms
 
@VermillionAzure my phone has a 3.5 inch screen
 
Sometimes I pretend to be doing essays but I'm actually playing agar.io.
 
1:16 AM
@AlexM. the struggle is real
@Nooble agar.io is so difficult to hide
so bright and you need a big window to play well
 
You can try ctrl + w.
 
might as well hit the power switch
 
Not fast enough.
Wait, with this new SSD...
Oh god it's instant!
 
hah right?
 
1:20 AM
I feel like I'm ruining this clean install with everything I download.
This is painful.
 
I installed so much shit I stopped caring eventually
at first I didn't like to install lots of stuff either
 
check the startup tab in your task manager
 
@AlexM. you guys stilll have the guilt?
 
i disable all the crap i dont need
 
@nick this too.
yup
 
1:33 AM
What the hell.
So I downloaded and launched Minecraft.
Oh right, Minecraft is part of Microsoft now...
Nevermind.
 
And for today's special: "after I cut of my leg, it's hard to walk. What can I do?"
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Q: Another coredump issue in C

beginnerwhen I compile my code with g++ -g -o prueba prueba.cpp -lstdc++ -O3 -march=corei7 -mtune=corei7 -std=c++0x After debugging, I got these three warnings: prueba.cpp: In function ‘int main()’: prueba.cpp:23:27: warning: ignoring return value of ‘int fscanf(FILE*, const char*, ...)’, declared wit...

Warning: this isn't even C with classes. Its C++ with no class at all!
 
@JerryCoffin earlier today some guy had cout, printf and malloc in the same 20 line snippet of code.
i was very sad
 
Why on earth would you be using two different forms of output.
Err, I mean, why did he use both std::cout and printf()?
 
@Borgleader You forgot to mention endl (or were you sticking to things that were definitely errors, not just almost definitely errors?)
 
1:47 AM
@JerryCoffin I never noticed it, I was distracted by how horrible the rest of the code was.
> borgleader@Ayden:~/GitHub$ git clone https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc
Cloning into 'gcc'...
remote: Counting objects: 1914542, done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (558/558), done.
Receiving objects: 59% (1140698/1914542), 1.45 GiB | 2.66 MiB/s
how big is this fucking repository djesus
 
@Borgleader I guess that's understandable.
 
I'm not djesus, but I'd say pretty huge.
 
Just clone the first depth (do you really need full history?)
 
@Borgleader That is pretty good sized.
 
@buttifulbuttefly A bit late now, but, mind telling me how i do that in case i need it in the future?
 
1:50 AM
git clone --depth 1
 
and to answer your question, no i dont need the full history
i wanted a copy of the gcc testing suite so i could look at it in the train
 
@Borgleader Probably very big?
 
ADG
morning guys
 
> Receiving objects: 100% (1914542/1914542), 1.61 GiB | 3.68 MiB/s, done.
 
Hello Acyclic Directed Graph
 
ADG
1:59 AM
hello buttiful
@Borgleader really I get around 100 KBpa
*Kbps
 
hi guys
 
ADG
can anyone tell how to find the minimum sum of elements of a matrix by moving from any cell in leftmost column to any in rightmost by only moving up, down and right?
 
wow people advertising their question now
 
It's like they don't read the rules!
 
and it's not even C++
 
2:04 AM
@buttifulbuttefly for just $2.99 I can leave you BREATHLESS!
 
@YellowSkies You probably want to delete that before people start flagging it.
 
@YellowSkies delete it.
it's not even relevant to C++
flagging in 10
9
8
2
 
I don't think those are second increments.
 
They're decrements
 
1
flaggidy flaggy
 
2:06 AM
Or decrements.
They seem too inconsistent.
 
ADG
0
-1
-2
 
@YellowSkies Why are you advertising a matlab question here?
 
@ADG cast -> unsigned
 
@VermillionAzure ...good job.
@Borgleader Desperation?
 
Wow, you spammed your question across all rooms. Downvoted for good measure.
 
2:08 AM
@ADG Sounds like the sort of problem that would fit well with dynamic programming.
 
@buttifulbuttefly I validated all the flags, this is spam
 
So did I
People are clueless sometimes
 
Sometimes
 
> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 3 hours 29 minutes.
 
ADG
@JerryCoffin Yes I think the same, we need to break down it into columns but I'm not sure what to do with minimum sums from one column to another or if that minimum sum is guranteed to be the minimum for the matrix
 
2:10 AM
Yes the "sometimes" was for maximum comical effect
It's 10 am and I'm hungry
This won't end well
 
Eat your arm. Then you probably won't be hungry, and will have something else to focus on if you still are.
 
What
 
It's a two-pronged approach! Not a good one, though. It won't solve the whole not-ending-well part of the problem.
 
2:26 AM
should I put to_string(SomeType) in SomeType's definition file or separately with the other to_strings? :w
choices choices
 
@Xeo My previous record was lvl 580 or so for the steam minigame, in my current game that i joined at lunch today, im at lvl 1666, not quite your record but, beats mine by a mile. I hope it'll still be going when I wake up.
 
@buttifulbuttefly In the SomeType definition
 
There won't be any spare functions lying around with incomplete types as arguments.
 
Did Vlad ragequit or something?
 
I thought I saw him earlier today?
Stalking the new posts.
 
2:30 AM
He's alive and unemployed well, unless I missed something
 
I don't know, maybe that was an old question I searched for. I just remember reading his handle sometime today...
 
@Ell IT'S HAPPENING
THEY RELEASED THE CARDS
Or, unveiled, I mean.
 
Why not unleashed?
 
That works too.
 
@Jefffrey His last answer was 4 hours ago, so yeah he probably ragequit.
Also wow he's at 70k now
 
2:33 AM
> Can you form a new contain from two others? [Vladimir Grigoriev](http://accu.org/var/uploads/journals/Overload126.pdf) reminds us
how to write an iterator.
 
@Jefffrey no vlad is here
he just did an edit like really
oh wait are we talking about @vsoftco
 
It's time I left you to your drug-induced fantasies as there is obviously no talking sense in to you today. Nor indeed, if memory serves, any other day. "Unemployed" indeed. I wonder why that may be...? — Lightness Races in Orbit 2 days ago
~~
 
"Between "actual C++" and the ISO C++ there is a big gap." ?!?!?
...I thought ISO C++ *was* actual C++, since it's the standard
 
ACCU looks like a good organization
But the only article I've read on their journal is by Vlad, written in broken english, with a boring proposal.
 
2:48 AM
link?
 
15 mins ago, by Jefffrey
> Can you form a new contain from two others? [Vladimir Grigoriev](http://accu.org/var/uploads/journals/Overload126.pdf) reminds us
how to write an iterator.
 
Ahh wonderful. MinGW-w64 now supports GCC 5.1. How late am I?
 

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