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12:06 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Thank you for bootstrap.py in ogonek, Its been extremely helpful to me.
 
The one in nonius is more advanced.
 
@AlexM. HINT They're subtracting e with its taylor series and multiplying it by n!.
waaaait...
where are the (x-a)^k terms?!
 
Night, all
 
n!*e - n!*(1 + 1/2 + 1/6 + ... + 1/n)
@AlexM. this might interest you math.stackexchange.com/questions/287946/…
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A: Sum of reciprocals of factorials

RustynNote: $\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{n!} = e-1$ So you can gain an approximation to: $$ \sum_{n=1}^{k} \frac{1}{n!} $$ by using $e-1$, where $k>>9$ After a short amount of terms, the difference between the sum and $e-1$ becomes negligible. Also in general, $$ \sum_{n=1}^k \frac{1}{n!} = e \fra...

 
@Nooble I took that exact same class a couple years ago! surprisingly, it was pretty fun. I suspect you won't learn much though
@sehe good night sweet prince
 
12:16 AM
Hi @Nooble
 
@nick oooh. that's gonna help me sleep so well
 
@DonLarynx Hi.
 
you're welcome
 
@sehe Great night, honey-glazed king.
@nick I haven't done much Java aside from modding Minecraft.
 
@Nooble well assuming you already know some computer science basics and OO concepts, java should be no problem
 
12:23 AM
It most likely won't be, yeah.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm, I'll check it out, but so far the one in ogonek covered everything i needed
 
Hmm let me read up on the differences between C++ and Java then.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Fuck I'm so sorry. I was out in the library, and I've met some "old" friends and we decided to go out for a drink, and then went eating something somewhere. I just came back and I totally forgot about our meeting.
/cc @Mr.kbok
Won't happen again
 
m8, food and drink is always better
ALWAYS
I'm not saying I'd abandon my friends for a huge quattro formaggi
but I'd abandon my friends for a huge quattro formaggi
 
@JohanLarsson No, I went there only 14 days a couple of summers ago.
@BartekBanachewicz :c I'm sorry
 
I haven't finished the first
I tried to but witcher 3 happened
 
I left it after the first fight vs saren
the one with the atomic bomb
 
Heres what youre gonna do
you finish Witcher 3, then you finish Mass Effect 1, then you play ME2 and 3
thats an order :P
 
Is Mass Effect 3 the game with that weird ending.
 
12:37 AM
@AlexM. BIG HINT e - 1 - sum of factorials = 0
 
@Borgleader roger
@Nooble so I've heard
 
good morning poeple
 
Good morning!
 
I have too many games installed
when am I going to finish them all
 
Tomorrow I just go to school, take a test, and come home.
 
12:38 AM
most of them are already started and left somewhere
 
And I need to intercept a package that contains my SSD.
 
Far Cry 4 is technically finished except for the DLC
 
@Nooble what SSD you got?
 
I left Hotline Miami 2 one mission before the end
 
@nick Samsung 850 Evo.
 
12:40 AM
@Nooble nice i got one too. 500gb?
 
@nick Just 250GB.
 
its funny i havent even used it once since the day i got it
250gb is plenty, thats my primary drive right now
 
How could you not use it?
 
@Nooble I bought one too yesterday, 250gb only though cuz im planning a PC overhaul soon
 
well i thought my original ssd wasn't working so i went out and got the 850
turns out it was working and i was just retarded
 
12:42 AM
@Borgleader I also bought it yesterday :D
 
so i installed windows on my original drive and linux on my 850, unfortunately getting dual monitors to work was a pain in the a** so i've just booted windows for the past 4 months
 
getting anything that's not default-looking seemed like a pain to me on linux
 
I've never experienced the speed of an SSD, hopefully it'll be great.
 
Why is it that on g++ I can an undefined reference to main with these lines but on msvc i dont:
#define BOOST_TEST_MODULE WtvTests
#include <boost/test/unit_test.hpp>
 
12:43 AM
@Nooble yes, it is
 
@AlexM. how do you mean?
 
to the point where you feel 5400rpm hard drives are in fact broken
and ask for replacements
 
@Nooble and yeah its pretty great, my win 8.1 install boots in 15 seconds start to finish. i never even see the windows logo
 
Windows 8.1 Boots in less than 15 seconds for me with a 5400 RPM HDD. Windows 8 just boots really fast I think.
 
booting time is the silliest reason to buy an SSD
 
12:45 AM
@Borgleader How huge?
 
you buy it so things load faster while you use it
 
@Nooble for real? i'm impressed
 
@nick Yeah.
 
windows 8.1 is really great once you get it configured
i don't understand all the hate
 
Neither do I.
 
12:46 AM
there is no hate :\
 
@AlexM. everybody h8s on windows 8
 
are you 10
 
Well, Task Manager still has it's "End Task" actually being "Suggest to End Task".
 
@Nooble how huge what?
 
@Nooble it's End Task for me
ah you mean how it works
 
12:47 AM
@Borgleader Of an overhaul.
@AlexM. Yeah :P
 
can't say I ever noticed anything weird
 
@AlexM. dunno man I thought it was kinda funny
 
Even terminate process sometimes fails
 
end task ended tasks all the time for me :\
 
12:49 AM
I can never seem to end hl2.exe.
 
because the prophecy says that at the end of hl2.exe comes hl3.exe
 
woo beer
 
good call, I'll get one too
 
strong beer
 
I'll settle for the beer I have :<
 
12:51 AM
@AlexM. It'll be worth the weight.
 
1:02 AM
@Ell Disassemblies of the R9-390X shows that it's a rebrand of the 290X with a higher clock and more VRAM. If the Fury X isn't amazing, AMD's done.
 
rekt
 
@AlexM. Well, it's price is about equivalent to that of a 970 still.
 
@Nooble well i meant new pc
 
why are you defending amd 10 seconds after saying that they're rekt
 
@Borgleader Oh.
@AlexM. All I have are specs, not actual benchmarks.
So I can't really comment on whether or not they're really rekt.
 
1:10 AM
then how is AMD "done"
or rekt
I think they're synonymous
 
Well they will be done if the Fury X isn't great.
Because then their highest tier card is a rebrand.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Last guardian
holy shit
 
It's about time
 
Did the internet meltdown happen? #TheLastGuardian
 
what's the last guardian
 
1:13 AM
a game that was announced forever ago
and still hasnt come out
> The game has been in development since 2007, and was formally announced at the 2009 Electronic Entertainment Expo with a planned release in 2011 exclusively for the PlayStation 3 video game console.[3][4]
 
> The most awaited game.. EVER!..
 
so I have a question
 
cmon, I'm sure STALKER and DNF were more awaited and hyped
 
lol 8 years
 
itll be 9 years when it comes out, the trailer said 2016
 
1:17 AM
is there a good reason for me to switch from c to cpp?
 
@MotokoKusanagi fascinating
 
@MotokoKusanagi @Jerry says so.
 
@MotokoKusanagi Is there a reason not to?
 
If your stupid video game takes 9 years to make it probably sucks
Well more than probabl
 
that was the case so far
STALKER didn't exactly suck but it was a lot less than what people expected
 
1:18 AM
Also your managers are terrible
 
DNF was a failure
 
DNF is a special kind of failure
 
@Borgleader idk i'm drunk and thinking. maybe not a good combination
 
The house I am building has passed frame inspection, yeah!!!
 
but that's how brainf*ck was written...
 
1:19 AM
The inspector said it's well done.
 
I want to play witcher but I also want to work but it's 4:30AM and fuck this there's not enough time in the day :<
 
I know some experienced builder who has degree from reputable university failed it.
 
@MotokoKusanagi You get to become a cool kid.
 
@TonyTheLion Sent you a mail. cc @AndyProwl
 
Finally a lounge virgin
Welcome @MotokoKusanagi
 
1:21 AM
what the hell is a lounge virgin
 
Sacrifice! Sacrifice!
 
it sounds all kinds of wrong
 
I also know another builder with 15 years experience failed first inspection which we also passed with fly colour!
 
no I usually hang out in the 2nd monitor
 
@AlexM. Someone that just joined
 
1:22 AM
@MotokoKusanagi makes sense, didn't spot you since I only have one
 
I can't seem to find someone that posted their first message
 
lol it's the code review channel
 
I posted my first message here
it was the message before my 2nd message
 
No I mean
 
@AlexM. Whatever it is, @JerryCoffin has been asking for one for ages. We'd better just hand him over.
 
1:22 AM
be careful, he's picky
 
The frame inspection is the hardest to pass amongst all 5 inspections IMHO
 
Like you see some new guy, and then you check their profile and it appears he already has 40/50 messages in this room
 
@MotokoKusanagi yea I know
 
New Hitman trailer was cool
 
rolf banned and unbanned me once :D
 
1:23 AM
I tend to hang out on code review because I've been trolled before on so channels
 
back in the day
 
anyhow
 
@Jefffrey ah you mean you saw his first message being actively posted
 
I never bother with perusing profiles.
 
No mans sky
omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg
 
1:26 AM
But basically, I've become quite comfortable writing c, and I was wondering which direction I should go: up to cpp, or down to att or intel asm
 
definitely down
 
Oh definitely ASM.
 
in that case att or intel?
 
sending electromagnetic pulses to your PC manually is the best thing ever
 
if I build an emp i'm going to put my pc in a faraday cage
 
1:27 AM
mandatory
 
I love flipping bits using my laser.
 
That's how I program.
 
@AlexM. yeah
 
or should I learn both
the difference seems small
 
1:29 AM
can't you just learn
if you have no goal then you can just learn
 
you make it sound like learning C++ will somehow permanently make a part of your brain unusable or sth
so it's a big risk to learn it
 
And that's not the case?
 
never seemed to me like it is
can't say learning something made it impossible for me to learn other things
 
@MotokoKusanagi Learn Haskell and Prolog
 
1:32 AM
So happy . So happy . So happy . So happy . So happy . Ecstatic!!!
 
i remember the day when i tried learning cpp, and i basically said f it. pointers are too complicated. i'm always looking back at those years like how could i not get something so simple?
 
Yeah!!!!!!
 
Have you just autocensured "fuck"?
 
i understood how to use objects, constructors, et cetera, but when it came to pointers, i just had a writers block of sorts
 
@chmod711telkitty I imagine this will be me tomorrow after obtaining my SSD.
 
1:34 AM
@Jefffrey he hails from codereview.se
 
yeah well I've been in trouble for typing a heated convo in the wrong channel
 
people there are...
sensitive to the word "fuck"
 
How old are you
 
and by there I mean seemingly anywhere it's not the lounge
 
no. paranoid that you are
i'm 30 years young
 
1:35 AM
Who the hell says "young".
 
you're too young to understand Nooble
don't listen to him @MotokoKusanagi, he's 14
 
:(
 
because the minute you tell yourself you're old is the minute you start acting so
 
wat
 
at 14 i was just discovering weed
and my schooling went down the drain
 
1:36 AM
which was 2 months ago?
 
see, nooble at 14 discovers code, sounds like you had the most fun
 
Wait
 
I discovered eucalyptus at 14.
 
ok well you can think what you want, but i remember 5 inch floppies loading space invaders
 
Is motoko alex?
 
1:37 AM
what?
no, but I noticed the guy's been around here before
 
Motoko? Momotopo? Limpopo?!
 
figured he might be some kind of troll
 
Yeah, we was not a virgin
 
also no, I don't use multiple accounts, please don't say that again
 
Why wouldn't you want me to say that again?
 
1:39 AM
mainly because it's really lame to think of it
 
Most of the people here have 2 or more accounts.
 
this is why i don't use so channels
 
Why?
Oh.
 
This guy is a lounge virgin
 
@Nooble :D
 
1:40 AM
I concentrate everything in single accounts and since I use my real stuff everywhere it's pretty clear using multiple accounts would detract from the result of the first thing
I can't even explain this
do you get it
 
no
 
what would I do with multiple accounts
fake who I am?
 
multiple accounts are used to evade flag ban
 
I think that's really, really lame
 
Fuck parachuting
 
1:41 AM
@CatPlusPlus Do without one?
 
you can survive without a parachute
people have
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, I fucking hate surviving!
 
Not with too much intact, I don't think.
 
Not without pain
 
I find it really crazy and unbelievable but in theory and practice it's possible lol
 
1:42 AM
@AlexM. I’ve managed fine so far.
 
I think the world record holder for distance fallen without a parachute (and survived) needed facial reconstruction or something.
 
has something to do with terminal velocity and how you can't go over that and shit
and science
but I don't remember what
 
While there are people on snackchat I like to talk with I wouldn't really care if I got banned
Falling at terminal velocity is likely lethal yknow
 
wtf
who flagged that
 
I'll keep that in mind
 
1:44 AM
what got flagged
 
you
terminal velocity message
 
Also flagging idiots
Get out
 
probably someone who has multiple accounts and got angry at my message
 
ive invalidated it, and cat too by the looks of it
 
1:44 AM
who knows
 
probably motoko
 
might be
 
Maybe they don't know the policies on language in these here parts.
 
I think I'll go play something now, I worked enough
 
Pretty much everybody here we know
 
1:45 AM
Could be some lurker.
 
can't you get un-question-banned though?
 
but the FAQs say you can....
 
lol
Stop being naive
 
@CatPlusPlus yep, but I think everyone who survived was falling at terminal vel
> JAT stewardess Vesna Vulović survived a fall of 10,000 metres (33,000 ft)[10] on January 26, 1972 when she was aboard JAT Flight 367. The plane was brought down by explosives over Srbská Kamenice in the former Czechoslovakia (now the Czech Republic). The Serbian stewardess suffered a broken skull, three broken vertebrae (one crushed completely), and was in a coma for 27 days.
 
1:46 AM
The trick to surviving terminal velocity fall is to adjust your trajectory so that you achieve an orbit instead
 
it contains science
 
I'd just try to adjust my terminal velocity.
 
and formulas
 
@CatPlusPlus That's the greatest thing I've ever heard.
 
1:48 AM
I know
 
@CatPlusPlus like LRIO?
 
@AlexM. It's mostly luck probably
 
ITT: Enums are nothing special
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A: Enums in C++ - how does a function assign a value

R Sahu How does it (or the compiler) decide whether to return Score with value assigned to one out of 0, MAX_INT, or MIN_INT? It doesn't. When you force a cast to Score using Score((mg << 16) + eg), you can use any value, not necessarily one of the above declared constants. It is valid to use: Sc...

 
Brain is really sensitive organ
 
definitely, never argued it happens often or it's likely
I just mentioned that it's possible to survive a free fall w/o parachute
 
1:49 AM
@AlexM. nno it's not you nincompoop
 
You can survive punctured organs and broken bones, but shake the brain too much and you're most likely a vegetable
 
Wait you went parachuting or...? @CatPlusPlus
 
Has Sony broken NeoGaf yet?
FF VII remake
 
how does it look?
still blocky graphics?
 
> You may need to use the keyword "typename" in front so the IQ <= 0 compiler knows you mean a type and not a class static variable....
 
1:50 AM
I really liked crisis core, great music and stuff youtube.com/watch?v=4nMnO3fFJ_E
 
nights
 
ahahahahaahhaha lastpass master passwords got compromised
 
does that mean people have access to other people's passwords?
I never figured out how storing passwords in another program can make them inaccessible to people who can break security stuff
 
Probably not, but maybe
 
@Borgleader Heh.
 
1:53 AM
It's funny mostly because trusting someone with your passwords is dumb
They say they used 100000 rounds of PBKDF2-SHA256 but that's not really that much
I use 17055232 rounds for my database atm
And that's a second delay
More or less
 
I usually go with 2 or 3 7.62×51mm FMJ rounds
 
And my CPU isn't that great anyway, plus PBKDF is not hard to implement on GPUs and shit
So it's one of those "it sounds impressive but really isn't" things
Don't use ~~~cloud~~~ password managers
6
 
Sounds dumb so probably is dumb
 
> Steven wants to thank:
God, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, for giving talent and passion in this competitive programming.
 
1:59 AM
Deffo dumb
 
> This is a book that every competitive programmer must read – and master, at least during the
middle phase of their programming career: when they want to leap forward from ‘just knowing
some programming language commands’ and ‘some algorithms’ to become a top programmer.
I think it's written by a prof from some uni given the url
 

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