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12:00 AM
welcome to social psychology
 
12:14 AM
my god statistics seminars are really hard
they're so... dry...
 
Well, what was your expected humidity going in?
 
For the record, the older answer is here: stackoverflow.com/questions/30365628/… (Now unaccepted and downvoted by the OP) — sehe 5 secs ago
Wow. I just noticed that OP also downvoted my old answer after unaccepting. Well well.
 
How do you know it was downvoted by OP?
 
@Jefffrey Timing
@Jefffrey Sequence: I encounter the new question by OP; I vote to close as duplicate because it looks exactly the same; He downvotes and unaccepts the old answer without any comment. I reopen the new question (because there might be something I missed)
 
12:31 AM
I see
 
The unaccept and downvote: http://stackoverflow.com/posts/30365628//timeline
And the timeline for dupe-vote and reopen of the new Q http://stackoverflow.com/posts/30891345//timeline
Oh. There's a hidden comment in a revision note there apparently. By a user "max william" who, ironically posted a near identical question earlier today:
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Q: Defining function in spirit rule gives warning

max williamqi::repeat(1,2) funtion in rule is giving me warrning and i dont want to ignore that warning so i want to optimized this code like separating the rule from the parsering method. qi::phrase_parse is doing the same thing which is in the the rule but i want to sperate the rule and give rule to the ...

Don't know what to think here.
Definitely looks like sock-puppeting
I regret spending more time on that now:
@maxwilliam in the absense of more information: coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/fa27fa6bd9b5c55csehe 3 hours ago
 
@sehe 22 minutes of difference, but yeah, same guy so he probably did it.
 
The d/v is immediate with the unaccept. There's only one guy who can unaccept
Oh well. It's not the clearest question anyways. I'll leave it unanswered then. I guess I can skip a boost question now and then
I'm going to sleep. Night all
 
12:48 AM
good morning carbon-based cell congregates
 
@sehe Night
 
@buttifulbuttefly good morning
@sehe good morning
oh wiat night
 
1:06 AM
Hi guise.
 
howdy pardner
 
hey uh
can you guys look through my level 0
please before I post to r/learnprogramming
 
Yeah sure man I'm like a C++ expert.
That's why they call me expertble.
 
@Nooble It's for basic CS concepts, pre-programming
It's very very very basic C++
at the very end
 
Oh I see.
 
1:12 AM
> You know nothing about programming.

You might use Google, YouTube, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or any of these things. You may be a first year college student jumping into things. You might be changing careers. You might be a kid with an idea. Suddenly, you want to program.

You hear about this nifty language called C++ that “the pros” use.

Do not dive straight into C++ as your first language.
 
I kinda did that.
 
@Nooble mmm not without dipping your toes in Java or JavaScript or HTML or Basic or Ruby or Python I bet.
Or C or Lua or C# or GML or Delphi
Or Scratch.
 
I did some C#.
Like System.Console.PrintLine() or something.
And that code is probably wrong.
 
@Rapptz Even Brendan Eich is a fucking hipster
 
1:14 AM
Oh right it's writeline I think.
 
Scratch is the best language
 
I don't even remember.
Maybe Console.WriteLine()?
 
consol.writlin
 
consul.rightline
 
Wait, WebAssembly is a thing
fuck no
 
1:16 AM
@Nooble elixir.rongfold
 
well I guess it can't be worse than jabbascript
 
@VermillionAzure Heh.
I've never done Scratch.
And holy crap Atom is sooooo slow.
 
Holy smokes
WebAssembly is happening
they're making it
 
yesss!! always wanted to program my websites in assembly
 
@nick It's brilliant.
LLVM + WebAssembly.
==> Applications everywhere
in C/C++ on the web also written in any other language
unification of the web/desktop, browsers as a plugin
Are your tinfoil caps going on yet?
 
1:21 AM
i cant wait till we get to do polyfills in C++
 
@nick Regardless, web probably has the best GUI toolkit right now
It's the most flexible, pretty, and unified
And it runs on all platforms.
 
true
 
wait wtf you're here too.
and there.
@nick HIGH
 
Web GUI toolkit is still terrible hth
HTML is one of the worst ways to describe an interface
 
@buttifulbuttefly Still better than other languages.
What do you want to do, code in C++ for front end too?
 
1:24 AM
@VermillionAzure heh
@buttifulbuttefly actually, responsive layout is more important than ever
 
All UI creation tools are terrible
 
@nick yup especially with mobile and tablets and stuff
 
the modern web is an incredibly flexible to way to lay out an interface
 
@buttifulbuttefly I have to speak out against this.
Shiny is quite excellent for me.
 
Don't come and tell me HTML/CSS is a good one, it's ~~fucking shit~~
 
1:26 AM
@buttifulbuttefly I'm writing a web app in Shiny; it outputs to JS. It's amazing.
Also, there are frameworks to take care of this for you. There are other languages that compile to HTML/CSS as a target.
Of course you don't do everything in HTML/CSS. But it is quite good.
 
@VermillionAzure I don't know what it is but given the name I'm going to tag it as
If you think HTML/CSS is good for UIs you have never developped a serious UI
 
@buttifulbuttefly It's the semi-official R toolkit to create interactive apps.
 
We're talking ~~ user interfaces ~~ here, not wobsites
 
@buttifulbuttefly I'm developing a Shiny workflow for a cancer center.
Web is still better than native toolkits.
 
Doesn't make it good
 
1:28 AM
Native's definitely faster, yes. But it's still better.
 
(Note that I didn't say that native toolkits are good either: they suck horribly too. And so does HTML)
 
how is web any worse than using something like Qt for your interface?
or Swing
 
@nick If anything, web is better.
No need to install anything.
 
shady portability, renderers are heavyweight, styling is cascaded (this is retarded), no bindings
I could go on
 
@buttifulbuttefly It's also much more easy to collaborate with the Web because you're hooked to it in a browser.
Developing an email server in Qt + Boost.Asio not fun. Node.js + Express.js is pretty easy.
 
1:31 AM
lol
baddie
 
portability is great, rendering might be slightly heavier but 2015, dunno about cascading (dont know what that means), and bindings are ez
 
wait why am I arguing with cinch
vOv
 
Web tech is currently least annoying way of doing UIs
Somehow
 
@CatPlusPlus I love you too cat.
 
note that he says "least annoying"
 
1:33 AM
cinch is holding 2 arguments at once haha
 
He's being slightly more positive than me
 
Yeah UIs are still terrible and you're better off having someone else do them
 
API best UI
 
Colirui best ui
 
1:36 AM
@StackedCrooked #coliru so ui
 
I've parallelised data export
It still sucks
Fucking project
lets convert 50GB of mysql badatabase to something else in 5 hours
over the network
thatll work
 
time to export to csv
 
Oh, and also those 100 million records of generated data which is the most problematic bit is business critical and we can't leave it out
Even though it's all shit and half of the reason this project exists
 
Attention Cinch offering technical expertise
 
@buttifulbuttefly I have a better format than CSV, but I/O is too expensive
 
1:39 AM
I was kidding
 
I now have <cpu count> processes that fetch shit from BadSQL, and stream it directly to another process that does import logic and puts into Postgres
Issuing COUNT(*) on that stupid table with 100m records takes 10 minutes
It's great
 
Why would you COUNT(*) though
 
@nick nobody's in here
they don't usually respond too much
 
To know how many pages I'll have
 
probably best to wait till tomorrow
your butthole will be sore after sehe finishes his review
 
1:44 AM
Somebody should make a C++ interpreter
It would seriously help a lot of people
 
Somebody did, no it wouldn't
At least BadSQL is smart enough to remember the count
Cache, technology of the future
 
@VermillionAzure Already exists (cling or something?)
 
Fetching takes forever, especially that there's no windowing functions so I have to use OFFSET/LIMIT
Which gets progressively slower
And that large thing has 2455 pages
 
And I thought DB servers were good at IO
 
And it'll probably grind to halt at 1000ish
idk
Everyone has terrible OFFSET/LIMIT
Postgres has a slowdown on far offsets too
Amazebutts
I'll probably need to do incremental exports anyway :/ Filtering is likely to take forever on those tables
I hate this project
 
1:49 AM
also it's 4 am
 
Yes it is
I don't have time to sleep
Everything is months late
Well work distribution seems to be workingish
I hope their moosql replica won't die when I start 4+ workers fetching 50k items at the time :v
 
> moosql
lol
 
lol ran out of /tmp
 
here we keep running out of /home because some process write tens of gigabytes of useless data every week
 
You might wanna fix that then.
Ooh what if I run Atom from a RAM disk.
 
2:03 AM
See, Atom is a prime example of ~~fine HTML UI~~
@Vermillion Prettier than your sister and heavier than your mom
 
Heh.
Yeah it looks nice once it loads, but that takes a couple of decades.
 
But it's the best way to make UIs they said
 
@Nooble Your PC sucks
 
@Columbo same scene on lowest details
 
@CatPlusPlus By "couple of decades" I mean "three seconds". But I'd imagine this would take longer on bigger files.
 
2:06 AM
@CatPlusPlus I tried Atom too, and it takes a surprisingly long time to open for a text editor
 
quite the difference lol
 
And I'm running it on an SSD.
 
urgh the witcher 3 makes me want to quit my job to play full time
 
idk what's that belief that text editors are simple
 
notepad is simple
 
2:08 AM
The bulk of Atom startup isn't UI, it's plugins
 
atom isn't particularly feature rich to justify that sluggishness
but then again jabbascript
 
atom is about as slow to open as visual studio and it has a tenth of the features, OTOH NP++ and ST open instantly
 
Cold JIT startup is usually slow
That's how things work
 
ST2 opens fast
so does gvim
 
@Borgleader Visual Studio is a lot longer for me.
 
2:09 AM
Neither of those use JIT
 
Really who the fuck cares about startup times
Even if it takes an hour it's entirely negligible value
 
if you keep it open 24/24 yes
 
@DonLarynx not hallal
 
Yes that's what I'm saying you should do
 
2:10 AM
I remember accidentally opening files with Visual Studio and it would start--"Loading plugins..." etc.
Super annoying.
 
VS doesn't tell you it loads plugin iirc
I think you're remembering a comic...
 
No, it does, at least I remember the whole (1 out of 3 blah blah)
There's a comic?
It might not say word for word "plugin" but it says something along those lines.
 
doesn't say shit to me
 
hnmmmmmm
so MongoDB or MySQL
 
Neither
And no it doesn't matter what you want to do
 
2:14 AM
@AlexM. You have to open a file, not start Visual Studio.
The loading screen should be a rectangle that's longer than it is tall.
 
If you don't want to open files with VS then why do you have them bound to VS
 
I used to use VS.
I don't have them bound anymore.
I did a fresh install yesterday.
 
@Nooble same thing
splash screen then file opened
 
I forgot the syntax for ssh tunnels again
Nevermind that I've been using those for years
 
@AlexM. Weird. I used Express and not Community, but that shouldn't have changed I don't think.
 
2:17 AM
it's not like it matters
 
Well I can't test it now, definitely not putting VS on this new drive.
 
though it'd be great if you'd also decorate your claims with proofs
 
I can't even uninstall that thing properly.
 
i ssh tunnel by ssh'ing into a client then ssh'ing to another client from there
highly advanced technique
 
OH FINE I'LL FIND THE DAMN LOADING THING
 
2:18 AM
That's not a tunnel
 
close enough :)
i mean, isn't that what an ssh tunnel does anyways?
 
could you ssh tunnel through a node not running an ssh daemon?
boom rekt
 
We will be attempting to re-join our DR SQL Server nodes to the network over the next few hours. We’re hoping for no service interruptions.
 
2:26 AM
all hope is vain
 
all hope is in vain?
 
2:43 AM
> I am employed at MSFT. This post (currently the top post) is factually incorrect on basically every level
I love internet
 
source?
 
> What - no graphene? I call BS. Every 'breakthrough' has to include graphene by law otherwise its doomed to fail.
^ true that
 
> Qu Lu
lol
 
2:45 AM
lol
what should I program?
I'm bored
 
A sandbox
 
Hello world
100000 times
 
or replace the aborts with exceptions
 
luc game engine
@buttifulbuttefly Stephen Elop - trojan horse.
 
2:48 AM
lol hn
 
I promise I try not to read HN but sometimes I feel too bored
And I love when they mention Rust
 
Reminds me of that guy /r/programming who insisted on being wrong about how GPUs work
I tried to explain the truth and gave up after 1 post
rip factual accuracy
 
lol what did they say
 
@AlexM. I seem to be able to replicate it now. If you open up larger files, it'll start displaying a progress bar and messages like "Opening file..." and "Loading user settings..." and things.
Although it doesn't happen everytime I open it... Very weird.
 
2:53 AM
 
And now I have to somehow uninstall Visual Studio. This is probably impossible.
 
@Rapptz messagge
 
thanks
I'd ask why GCC didn't catch it
but preprocessor
 
Oh that alt is not banned yet
good
> Any sort of control flow, even a simple if, is an exception rather than a rule and needs to be carefully considered
ATTENTION MR PROCESSOR HERE IS AN INCOMING if DO NOT PANIC I HAVE CAREFULLY CONSIDERED IT
 
y kant gpu branch
 
2:57 AM
or maybe this guy used to program gpus in the 90s I don't know
@CatPlusPlus how is babby branched
notice that my comment is unusually constructive, I even included "Please".
 
Nice username, nerd.
 
I use KeePass' password generator to generate throwaways
 
@Nooble You're supposed to end it with ", nerd"
I don't use throwaways
 

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