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6:00 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit wwat?
 
Good or bad line?
"Oh, you're just a fool! How can you blindly believe in a freaking company, for crying out loud?! They're not people; a company is an it; cold; careless; heartless!"
 
@Cinch Is it for your game?
 
@khajvah Yeah.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ahaaah, I see
 
6:04 PM
I'm trying not to create cringe-worthy lines that sound more natural
 
plz2dupehammer, goldies
 
C++ supports nested classes?
 
@khajvah But does it support nested functions?
 
user1804599
> test => { TESTS => `zsh -c 'echo t/**/*.t'` },
 
user1804599
Bleh.
 
user1804599
6:07 PM
Fuck every glob implementation that doesn't support recursive globs (you know, the only kind of globs you ever want).
 
done
 
Is UEFI secure boot thingy really required for windows 10?
 
user784668
No.
 
6:12 PM
I doubt having secure boot enabled is a real requirement.
> It’s up to device makers to decide whether there’s an option to disable it.
Well, there it is.
 
When you have windows installed on UEFI enable pc, after disabling, I don't think you can still boot.
 
It shouldn't be Windows preventing that. Windows 8 doesn't, and I sure hope Windows 10 won't do something stupid.
 
WinRT requires Secure Boot.
 
Not that I care much about windows, but it is still stupid
 
Yeah, and you know how popular Windows RT was. :P
 
6:19 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's probably because it wasn't meant for PCs.
 
@Cinch A "freaking company, for crying out loud"? That's so bad. It's like, "I really wish I could just say "fucking company" but I'm too immature.
 
"I've had it with these monkey fighting snakes on the monday-to-friday plane!"
 
"It won't be long before they cut off the penguin's air supply, just like they did Netscape. Remove commodity PC hardware and Linux gets relegated to servers and very high end workstations."

ahahaha
 
@Puppy I use it sometimes. Reusing the same intensifiers all the time gets boring.
 
6:35 PM
It was a comment. I can understand windows trying to "cut the penguin's air supply" (not that they will ever be able) by forcing UEFI but I will never understand windows users talking against the penguin. It is just retarded
 
That rhetoric is really nonsensical.
Microsoft signs Linux kernels with their keys.
 
Which rhetoric? First one was a comment by somebody
 
You can boot almost anything with Secure Boot on. Slap shim on it and add your keys.
 
I am actually booting my fedora with Secure Boot on. I was just pointing out that idiot's speech against the "penguin"
 
@khajvah Penguins swim well. They don't need to breathe that often.
 
6:44 PM
@MartinJames Penguins don't swim. Like all birds, they fly--just in their case, they fly through water.
 
Sweet tits, this settings management system I wrote a year ago is needlessly complex.
 
-4
Q: Is stack overflow a singleton?

ExitosWhen I log onto stack overflow there is only one in my browser and when I type it makes no network requests. So does this mean Stack Overflow is a singleton?

 
Fuck. You beat me.
 
@Mysticial I had to be quick 'cos it'll be gone soon for 10k- users.
 
6:49 PM
the OP has over 5k rep, how did that happen
 
@MartinJames wtf?
 
@MartinJames Yes, it's gone now :) ...
@SamDeHaan How does it happen that +5K users ask stupid questions? They're humans may be?
 
Aw, I missed that. D:
 
A motivation to get 10k rep
 
Well, 10k rep isn't something you pull out of your nose.
 
6:54 PM
well, it kinda is.
 
Besides, I'd rather be more motivated for my PhD.
 
It really isn't
 
@E_net4 That is irrelevant
 
TIL that there exists /r/SWARJE which is basically the Swedish version of /r/MURICA.
 
@khajvah 'Tis rather relevant.
 
6:58 PM
@E_net4 What is the connection between your phd and SO?
 
Eww... Wolves vs. Sheep on Sky at 19:45. What a waste of bandwidth.
 
They're independent. But both 10k rep and the PhD aren't something you pull out of your nose.
 
10k rep is piss easy
and I could indeed pull it out of my nose.
 
Even I managed it.
 
for example
108
A: Compiler showing 'pi' symbol on error

PuppyIt's a bug on the site, as the compiler's output is not properly escaped. The compiler should output π, but that's valid HTML, producing the pi symbol you see.

1k rep for basically nothing at all.
 
6:59 PM
Yes, without pulling it out of my arse.
 
well, your arse holds so much, you can pull much more useful things out of it
 
149
A: How to loop through a c++ map

PuppyYou can use an iterator. typedef std::map<std::string, std::map<std::string, std::string>>::iterator it_type; for(it_type iterator = m.begin(); iterator != m.end(); iterator++) { // iterator->first = key // iterator->second = value // Repeat if you also want to iterate through the se...

this too
 
yeah but that's four years old
 
@Puppy I'm more interested in putting more stuff in it.
 
1756
Q: How do I remove a Git submodule?

R. Martinho FernandesHow do I remove a Git submodule? By the way, is there a reason I can't simply do git submodule rm whatever ?

Pfff, 1k.
 
7:00 PM
lol
 
Hmm.. maybe I should clarify that - I need to go shopping for food. I have no bread and no pizza in.
 
yours is several yaers old though
whereas I made 1k in a day basically
 
Ah.
I have the perfect one, then.
251
A: What is this smiley-with-beard expression: "<:]{%>"?

R. Martinho FernandesThat's an empty lambda using a digraph disguise. Normal lambdas don't have beards.

Fuck you, @Xeo.
 
142
A: Should a getter throw an exception if its object has invalid state?

DeadMGDo not permit your class to be constructed without assigning a name.

personally I like this one.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hi :D
 
7:02 PM
I'm bored.
Dance for me.
 
no thanks
I need to eat first
is your microwave still available?
 
Xeo
@Puppy But after that you'll dance?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Because we are apparently oppressors of everybody else :D
 
paypal me fifty quid and we'll talk about it
 
Really tempted to.
What are the conditions?
1080p Video, 10+ minutes?
What kind of dance?
Let's do business.
 
7:04 PM
Lounge<€€€>
 
sorry, but I only promised to talk about it upon receipt of the money.
 
And that's why you're broke.
:P
 
Xeo
Puppy is broke?
 
not really anymore
but I certainly was when I had to live on fifty quid a week.
 
i.e. one talk of a dance a week
 
7:07 PM
indeed
 
Xeo
@Puppy 50 is quite a lot, still!
 
You must be pretty good at it by this point.
 
@Xeo Not for your entire living expenses.
 
user1804599
Good.
 
user1804599
My code works beautifully.
 
7:08 PM
for several consecutive years
 
Xeo
Also for rent?
 
yes.
and clothing, etc.
 
Xeo
where did you live, in a garden shack?
 
with my parents, duh
 
WTF, how did you manage to survive that?
Ah.
 
7:08 PM
but they couldn't afford to sustain me for free.
 
@Xeo He's a swamp thing.
 
@Puppy Why is that? Did you just reject every job offer or you weren't getting any?
 
@khajvah Sickness.
 
oh I see
 
Xeo
@khajvah He was pretending to have some kinda stomach sickness
 
7:09 PM
@Xeo British boys are raised in cupboards under the stairs, that’s what a documentary told me.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton lol
 
so then
fucking drugs, guys
I haven't professed my love of them enough recently.
who wants some fucking drugs?
 
No thanks, I’m good.
 
I got a bunch more recently
 
@Puppy They still working OK?
 
7:10 PM
fifty quid for ten high-grade opiates
@MartinJames I think I just misclicked and flagged you.
 
I stopped taking mine.
 
Xeo
@Puppy no, you starred
 
@Puppy It takes two clicks for that.
 
ah
well, yes, they're working OK
 
I did wonder about the star..
 
7:10 PM
not as good as they used to but only expected.
and there's a lot of room for dose upgrades
 
@Puppy Orite :)
 
I'm on 30mg a day and the basic rate for prescription for other ailments is 210mg a day
 
Funny how 30mg can make the difference between being tormented by belly aches and being normal.
 
lol normal
 
Most of that 30mg will not be even be absorbed.
 
7:15 PM
Why am I in the office.
 
You procrastinated on going home.
 
@StackedCrooked Depends on the substance. Some of them actually catalyse reactions in the body that increase the quantity or change the drug into more effective forms.
 
Right.
 
from memory, paracetamol is actually highly toxic
but the liver breaks it down into some good stuff
 
user1804599
Wunderbar: ^(master|develop|feature/[^/]+(/[^/]+)?|release-[^/]+|hotfix-[^/]+)$.
 
7:18 PM
Pain-killing-tastic.
 
There's this funny story about heroin.
Bayer invented heroin and it was marketed as a treatment for morphine addiction.
Only later it was discovered that the liver metabolizes it into morphine.
 
just goes to show he didn't do his due diligence
 
IIRC overdosing on paracetamol will give you a slow and painful death.
 
yep
burns the liver to a crisp if I recall correctly
 
sounds nice
 
7:23 PM
so the toxins in pretty much anything will kill you
 
I took one yesterday. I hope I won't die
 
nah
 
Just for some entertainment :-)
"You're both absolutely right." Oops, I'm two now again? I didn't thought I'm that drunk already this early evening :-P ... Wait! I am that drunk already, since I had the impression I was discussing with the OP. — πάντα ῥεῖ 3 mins ago
 
> In the UK, a hospital will start an acetylcysteine drip if the dose of paracetamol is over 12g (24 x 500mg), but doses less than that will damage your liver to some degree (doses over 4g)
And there are 1g pills.
It's quite easy to overdose by negligence/stupid ignorance.
 
personally I use an external timer to remind me when to take my drugs
but since I'm on such a low dose, overdose isn't so concerning for me
overdose is 25x my normal dose
I'd have to take literally every pill I've got and it still wouldn't be an overdose
 
7:26 PM
Is the timing important for managing the symptoms?
 
yep
 
That kinda sucks.
 
eh not that much
just gotta actually take them when reminded :P
 
How many are you taking?
 
er
does it matter?
30 1mg pills or 1 30mg pill -> 30mg.
 
7:28 PM
I meant how many kinds of pills.
 
Though this only seems like an opinion piece, it seems far more likely than "toxic IT" theory: Why Many Women Don't Consider Studying CS
If the things in the article are accurate, women do not do CS because they are just wimps. :)
 
just one
 
user1804599
can we forever stfu about women in tech plz
 
no
 
@райтфолд No.
 
user1804599
7:29 PM
fu
 
@райтфолд You wish.
 
user1804599
 
@Mgetz amazing
 
@райтфолд come on NO
 
user1804599
7:34 PM
@NullPoiиteя How about a room dedicated to it, instead of, like, Lounge<C++>?
 
user1804599
Every goddamn day.
 
@райтфолд Why shouldn't this be an appropriate issue. Are you just misogyne or what?
 
@райтфолд I almost didn't recognise you :P
 
user1804599
@khajvah amazeing
 
it got flagged , otherwise i have no problem , even who cares about flag either :/
 
7:36 PM
Why are there no women in the Lounge?
 
user1804599
There are.
 
user1804599
Such as Telshitty.
 
user1804599
And Cicada.
 
only 2 for all of us
?
 
Does it really matter?
 
7:38 PM
There are actually. And It's e.g **telkitty**, and some others (who even aren't sure if they are women at all).
And it's because women aren't very well attracted by nerds like us of course (as usual)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ How nice of you to include Nephropidae
 
user1804599
how about some beautiful perl code
 
user1804599
sub check_naming_conventions {
    my @branch_names = map { $_->shorthand() } shift->branches('local');
    my @bad_branch_names = grep { !/$naming_conventions/ } @branch_names;
    Set::Scalar->new(@bad_branch_names);
}
 
Perl is bad for your soul
 
user1804599
7:41 PM
no :[
 
Seriously. I tried to read that and it shortened my life by approximately 7 months
 
@райтфолд Because you don't have a soul to begin with?
 
Are there any electronic engineers here?
 
user1804599
@sehe Be grateful; 7 fewer months of living the life of a demented plant.
 
7:42 PM
@sehe Sure! I'm bored about gender concerns, and actually like to see more people participating, regardless of their gender.
 
@sehe That one is pretty straight forward.
 
user1804599
And pretty. And straightforward.
 
Set::Scalar->new(@bad_branch_names); come on.
 
user1804599
What's the problem with that?
 
user1804599
It creates a new set of scalars.
 
7:43 PM
@khajvah I'm pushing electrons all day long. Does this make me an electronic engineer?
 
It's not pretty. And not straightforward. What would you need to think about "Scalars" for. I mean, you have to come up with abstract shit like that? I'll pick Haskell any day
 
user1804599
That's how Perl works.
 
> works
 
I have this weird issue. I bought a shit charger for my laptop. When I plug it in, my touch-pad gets fucked up, acting laggy, when I tap on it, it receives a double tap and shit like that. Any idea?
 
user1804599
In Perl 6 it's way worse.
 
7:47 PM
@khajvah use the proper power supply
 
@райтфолд Is Perl a programming language or what?
 
user1804599
No, it's a masturbation technique.
 
^Sounds like ...
 
@melak47 It is unworthily expensive. But it doesn't matter, it is just interesting why this could happen.
 
@khajvah sounds like a software issue. Remove some drivers. Is it Apple Cruft™?
 
7:50 PM
It is a cheap Acer. I tried with a proper charger and it worked fine but not with mine
 
@райтфолд um says the guy who never ever talks about C++ but about other languages
-1
Q: I HAVE NO IDEA WHATS WRONG WITH THIS CODE I KEEP GETTING AN UNDECLARED IDENTIFIER

Mike Hanigan#include <iostream> using namespace std; int main() { int bucky[9]; enter code here cout << "Element - value" << endl; for (int x = 0; x <= 8; x++); { cout << x << endl; } } //This is from a tutorial video where it did work i checked it multiple times and is exactly the same

 
anyone here understand quaternions?
I'm running into a few issues...
 
user1804599
Ask on Mathematics.
 
Best question title ever
 
user1804599
7:57 PM
Mathematics questions tend to be even worse than questions.
 
the enter code here part is not part of the code it was there when i uploaded the post for some reason — Mike Hanigan 1 min ago
oh god
 
@AnthonyA I understand they're basically weird roration representation made up of of rotation_axis / sin(angle/2) for xyz and cos(angle/2) for w. that's all I know. :D
 
user1804599
They're like, most of them are just homework dumps and nobody complains.
 
user1804599
It's a weird website.
 
user1804599
@milleniumbug lol
 
7:59 PM
@райтфолд Nothing is wrong with homework if the OP is trying to solve it instead of just creating a SO account and posting it.
 
user1804599
I never said it was.
 
What if SO accounts had a delay before you could post a question
 
user1804599
All I said was that most questions are homework dumps.
 
user1804599
With no further information or what-have-I-tried whatsoever.
 
Like, maybe you have to wait a few days before you can post a question after signing up
That would probably kill most crappy one-use account hw questions
 
user1804599
8:00 PM
@Pris Then Stack Overflow would be a better place, and Stack Exchange would earn much less money.
3
 
user1804599
Hence they don't do it.
 
Wrote my first unit test in my life
The code was correct, and the test was wrong
 
@райтфолд I fail to see how single use 'crap' accounts increase SE's revenue
 
user1804599
Write the test first.
 
@milleniumbug I hate unit tests.
 
user1804599
8:01 PM
Then the tested code.
 
user1804599
@Pris Because those people are mostly morons already, and only morons don't have AdBlock installed.
 
@райтфолд Is this a good practice ?
 
Is advertising SE's primary revenue stream? I have adblock disabled on SE/SO and all I see are job postings from SO careers
 
user1804599
@khajvah I like it.
 
user1804599
I immediately get feedback about the code I wrote.
 
user1804599
8:03 PM
Because the test is already there.
 
I usually debug every time to see if it works.
 
user1804599
I automate debugging by writing tests.
 
...which can be buggy
 
user1804599
Debugging manually is way more error prone.
 
user1804599
IME.
 
8:05 PM
Both have the same effect at first but after few weeks, you forget what you wrote, so you can just run the test to see if everything is fine.
 
@Pris s/primary/only
 
170
Q: What is Stack Overflow's business model?

George StockerI once answered a question that asked how Stack Overflow makes money, but that was before the time of VC. Now, Stack Overflow has cash, and they have an ever-growing list of employees, but where's the business model? The Experts-Exchange team took the time to answer its own Q&A about its site (...

@Puppy no
 
user1804599
@khajvah Yes, that's what I do.
 
the point of tests is not to debug; it's to discover bugs
 
8:17 PM
@sehe, @jalf, @orlp: I have found this study, 3rd hit on "why females do not enter computer science‌​" Google search for me. It is about 20 years old though. In short, it seems to conclude it is not just (or major part) "toxic males" that influence girls decisions.
 
figuring out how to design my ECS system so it works with multiple threads is so annoying
 
gee, it's only 20 years old, it must still be completely applicable.
@Pris That's because ECS is dumb as shit.
 
@wilx Please don't plink me on this. FTR I never argued about women in STEM
 
I shared a funny analogy
 
8:18 PM
@Puppy well I had a scene graph before, it was just as annoying to deal with in a multithreaded way
 
7 hours ago, by sehe
At this point I must say, I'm terribly sorry for (potentially) bringing this topic back up. I just wanted to share a nice example of how memetic thoughts don't work well (except for spreading memetic thoughfs)
 
@sehe Well...OK, if you wish.
 
Thank you
 
I read about using a task manager/thread pool technique and it peaked my interest. I'm just trying to lay out the flow for updating values.
 
piqued, unless your interest is now levelling off.
 
8:22 PM
My interest nose dived after I couldn't figure out how to implement it :p
 
Real life problems:
0
Q: GoogleTest and Memory Leaks

Andrejs IgumenovsI'm surprised that Google C++ Testing Framework does not explicitly support checking for memory leaks. There is, however, a workaround for Microsoft Visual C++, but what about Linux? If memory management is crucial for me, is it better to use another C++ unit-testing framework?

 
If I was god, I wouldn't invent nose. I have been using my mouth to breath for a few days already and it works pretty well.
 
@khajvah Nose is good. It moistures and heats the inhaled air. It also clean it up a bit before it gets to lungs.
 
if I was God, I'd uninvent myself sharpish
fuck religious crap
 
@wilx You can implement all that near lungs
 
8:37 PM
not enough time to act
 
Also, backup. You have two orifices to breathe through.
 
@wilx That is a good point, but mouth is pretty reliable.
 
consumption of food and liquid without a nose to breath through is inconvenient
 
oh god i'm going out again
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit sounds like you are complaining
 
8:40 PM
i am
i hate my friends
they are evidently trying to kill me
 
inb4 some crazy ass drunk story.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Have you no will power of your own? :)
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Not really friends then. :)
 
user1804599
One more reason Python's import system is terrible: can't sort the import lines easily since some start with from and some start with import.
 
lol sorting includes
 
user1804599
#   Failed test at t/Git/Fix/Branch.t line 70.
#          got: '()'
#     expected: '()'
 
user1804599
8:46 PM
Yeah, terrific.
 
@wilx it's not willpower so much as not wanting to miss out on stuff
and it's nice to be wanted
lord knows i never get that here!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ;)
 
user3010322
Oh, I remember why I can't use clang for my builds anymore.
 
user3010322
I switched to using and having char16_t and char32_t as my types internally; clang fails to compile because of a hack it does to emulate char16_t, so my code'd fail...
 
user1804599
Fucking git submodules are such a horrible abomination.
 

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